How to migrate PowerDesigner 6 to PowerDesigner 11

I am with difficulties "to take" models generated in
PowerDesigner 6 for PowerDesigner 11 (evaluation).  Already
I tried to make the steps below, but I did not get success.

Step 1 -  The basic File/Open I chose  diagrama.pdm file
(generated in version 6) and To open.  It starts to read the
archive and finishing he almost gives to the error "failed
you read the file".  Valley to detach that the procedure was
attemped with other archives (also generated in version 6)
and I did not get success and that the same ones continue
functioning in version 6.

Step 2 -  Conceptual Model Date From version 6 was generated
Conceptual Data Model (CDM), still in the archive
diagrama.pdm, with the file name diagrama.cdm then I remade
step 1 and functioned!  However submodels if had lost.

The raised questions are:
- Has compatibility between versions 6 and 8?
- How I must proceed to open all diagram (with submodels) in
version 11?

thanks,

Gilberto Assis
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Gilberto
11/30/2005 11:13:54 AM
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Gilberto,
Power Designer changed the structure of the software from version 6 to
version 7 and the migration process is very hard. In my case i can say it
was impossible, since in my organization our conceptual model is very large.
Over last 5 years i tried to migrate several times, but i didn't have
success, even with Sybase's support.
Now, in version 11 there is a new approach that takes it possible. Using
"replicas". And i have to use scripts to convert the old large model to
several small models based on the v6 sub-models.

My v6 model is very large with many sub-models. It is impossible
to work in v11 like a do in v6. Then, i will create several models in v11
based on every v6 sub-models. The entities shared over the models will be
created as a replica.
I created a script to read the large model imported from v6 (with the
sub-models converted to diagrams) and create all the new models based on the
diagrams of the large model. For each model i create the entities, replicas,
relationships and inheritances.

Where are you from? Wich organization? If you are from Brazil i can help you
with my experience.

Marcelo Tropia
Banco Mercantil do Brasil
Belo Horizonte (MG) - Brazil



<Gilberto Assis> escreveu na mensagem
news:438d8799.73c1.1681692777@sybase.com...
> I am with difficulties "to take" models generated in
> PowerDesigner 6 for PowerDesigner 11 (evaluation).  Already
> I tried to make the steps below, but I did not get success.
>
> Step 1 -  The basic File/Open I chose  diagrama.pdm file
> (generated in version 6) and To open.  It starts to read the
> archive and finishing he almost gives to the error "failed
> you read the file".  Valley to detach that the procedure was
> attemped with other archives (also generated in version 6)
> and I did not get success and that the same ones continue
> functioning in version 6.
>
> Step 2 -  Conceptual Model Date From version 6 was generated
> Conceptual Data Model (CDM), still in the archive
> diagrama.pdm, with the file name diagrama.cdm then I remade
> step 1 and functioned!  However submodels if had lost.
>
> The raised questions are:
> - Has compatibility between versions 6 and 8?
> - How I must proceed to open all diagram (with submodels) in
> version 11?
>
> thanks,
>
> Gilberto Assis


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Marcelo
11/30/2005 12:31:55 PM
With an undertaking of this magnitude and gravity, I suggest you take stock 
of all PD features and decide how to use them:

post v6 PD offers :
 - Model with multiple diagrams
- synonyms
- Packages
- Workspace with multiple Models
- internal and external shortcuts
- and replicas

Template models (to fix model options) and profiles (to fix element display 
preferences) may also come into it.

Plus you may want to make inside model reports of say Entity Lists etc to 
prevent swearing and so on.

You may want to devise a few alternate/trade-off strategies and proceed in 
parallel and see how they work out, make adjustments and abandon some 
strategies.

Good Luck - I have not worked with _HUGE_ models myself.

Record you experience/strategy. 


0
Karel
11/30/2005 3:17:29 PM
Remember, if you have a V6 linked CDM/PDM pair, you should use the File 
-> Import -> V6 Synchronized Models.  This will let you import both the 
CDM and PDM into V11.  Hopefully this will give you better results.

As the others have said, there are a LOT of differences between V6 and 
V11.  5 full versions with a ton of new functionality and new file 
formats.  Almost a totally different tool.  If you are having pain in 
migrating, first try here to see what others are doing.  Next, contact 
Sybase and see if they can help with tech support or consulting 
services.  Finally, there are some of us in the user community that can 
offer consulting/training/etc services that might be useful.

-- 
Mike Nicewarner [TeamSybase]
http://www.datamodel.org
mike[at]datamodel[dot]org (can you figure what to change?)
Sybase product enhancement requests:
http://www.isug.com/cgi-bin/ISUG2/submit_enhancement



Gilberto Assis wrote:
> I am with difficulties "to take" models generated in
> PowerDesigner 6 for PowerDesigner 11 (evaluation).  Already
> I tried to make the steps below, but I did not get success.
> 
> Step 1 -  The basic File/Open I chose  diagrama.pdm file
> (generated in version 6) and To open.  It starts to read the
> archive and finishing he almost gives to the error "failed
> you read the file".  Valley to detach that the procedure was
> attemped with other archives (also generated in version 6)
> and I did not get success and that the same ones continue
> functioning in version 6.
> 
> Step 2 -  Conceptual Model Date From version 6 was generated
> Conceptual Data Model (CDM), still in the archive
> diagrama.pdm, with the file name diagrama.cdm then I remade
> step 1 and functioned!  However submodels if had lost.
> 
> The raised questions are:
> - Has compatibility between versions 6 and 8?
> - How I must proceed to open all diagram (with submodels) in
> version 11?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Gilberto Assis
0
Mike
12/2/2005 2:36:34 AM
Hi every all,

In first place it would like to be thankful all for the
answers.  I go to continue trying to decide my problem.

Marcelo,
I'm from BH to, and I'm friend of  Robson Morais who works
with you, had the freedom to catch its telephone with it,
and then I will go to tell to you.

thanks.

Gilberto Assis

> Remember, if you have a V6 linked CDM/PDM pair, you should
> use the File  -> Import -> V6 Synchronized Models.  This
> will let you import both the  CDM and PDM into V11.
> Hopefully this will give you better results.
>
> As the others have said, there are a LOT of differences
> between V6 and  V11.  5 full versions with a ton of new
> functionality and new file  formats.  Almost a totally
> different tool.  If you are having pain in  migrating,
> first try here to see what others are doing.  Next,
> contact  Sybase and see if they can help with tech support
> or consulting  services.  Finally, there are some of us in
> the user community that can  offer consulting/training/etc
> services that might be useful.
>
> --
> Mike Nicewarner [TeamSybase]
> http://www.datamodel.org
> mike[at]datamodel[dot]org (can you figure what to change?)
> Sybase product enhancement requests:
> http://www.isug.com/cgi-bin/ISUG2/submit_enhancement
>
>
>
> Gilberto Assis wrote:
> > I am with difficulties "to take" models generated in
> > PowerDesigner 6 for PowerDesigner 11 (evaluation).
> > Already I tried to make the steps below, but I did not
> > get success.
> > Step 1 -  The basic File/Open I chose  diagrama.pdm file
> > (generated in version 6) and To open.  It starts to read
> > the archive and finishing he almost gives to the error
> > "failed you read the file".  Valley to detach that the
> > procedure was attemped with other archives (also
> > generated in version 6) and I did not get success and
> > that the same ones continue functioning in version 6.
> >
> > Step 2 -  Conceptual Model Date From version 6 was
> > generated Conceptual Data Model (CDM), still in the
> > archive diagrama.pdm, with the file name diagrama.cdm
> > then I remade step 1 and functioned!  However submodels
> > if had lost.
> > The raised questions are:
> > - Has compatibility between versions 6 and 8?
> > - How I must proceed to open all diagram (with
> > submodels) in version 11?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Gilberto Assis
0
Gilberto
12/2/2005 5:53:42 PM
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