We have an old PB 6.5 app that we want to (finally) migrate to PB 9.

Should we go to PB 9.00 or PB 9.01 (which seems to generate a fair 
number of GPFs from some of the posts we've seen).'

Which of the 2 versions of PB 9 are more stable in your opinion?
We don't need the new features that much, for us stability is the #1
issue.

Frankly speaking, we'd keep it on 6.5 if we could, but that old IDE
is so unusable by today's standards that we finally decided to
make the jump to version 9.

thanks in advance,
John

Hey John,

Stability really depends on your needs..What may be a show stopper for one
shop another can live with it.

We've been on PB9, build 6066 (9GA had problems with scrolltorow and that
was killing us) and we're living with what bugs we've found since we've also
seen the posts about 9.01 having problems..We're not going to another
version until probably another GA is out

-- 

Evita Chapa
Senior Systems Analyst II
Command Technologies Inc.
"John" <NOSPAM_johnb_at_nsbcenter_dot_com> wrote in message
news:3fc3c707$1@forums-2-dub...
> We have an old PB 6.5 app that we want to (finally) migrate to PB 9.
>
> Should we go to PB 9.00 or PB 9.01 (which seems to generate a fair
> number of GPFs from some of the posts we've seen).'
>
> Which of the 2 versions of PB 9 are more stable in your opinion?
> We don't need the new features that much, for us stability is the #1
> issue.
>
> Frankly speaking, we'd keep it on 6.5 if we could, but that old IDE
> is so unusable by today's standards that we finally decided to
> make the jump to version 9.
>
> thanks in advance,
> John
>

Evita Chapa wrote:
> Hey John,
> 
> Stability really depends on your needs..What may be a show stopper for one
> shop another can live with it.
> 
> We've been on PB9, build 6066 (9GA had problems with scrolltorow and that
> was killing us) and we're living with what bugs we've found since we've also
> seen the posts about 9.01 having problems..We're not going to another
> version until probably another GA is out
> 

Would you maybe recommend a version of PB 8 that was more stable?
8.0.2 or 8.0.3?

thanks,
John

I would go to version 9 since version 8 is going to be EOL'ed next year
after PB 10 comes out. I've been on 9.0.1 and had no problems, but again, it
all depends on what features you are using.

Ivan

"John" <NOSPAM_johnb_at_nsbcenter_dot_com> wrote in message
news:3fc3d027@forums-2-dub...
> Evita Chapa wrote:
> > Hey John,
> >
> > Stability really depends on your needs..What may be a show stopper for
one
> > shop another can live with it.
> >
> > We've been on PB9, build 6066 (9GA had problems with scrolltorow and
that
> > was killing us) and we're living with what bugs we've found since we've
also
> > seen the posts about 9.01 having problems..We're not going to another
> > version until probably another GA is out
> >
>
> Would you maybe recommend a version of PB 8 that was more stable?
> 8.0.2 or 8.0.3?
>
> thanks,
> John
>

I would recommend 9.0.1.7048.  The EBF releases since 9.01 have all fixed
problems for us. The number of problems with the IDE has decreased with 7048
also.

"Tyler Cruse" <tcruse@trlx.com> wrote in message news:3fc4131e$1@forums-2-dub...
> I would recommend 9.0.1.7048.  The EBF releases since 9.01 have all fixed
> problems for us. The number of problems with the IDE has decreased with 7048
> also.
>

9.0.1.7056 corrects a big issue for users of PBNative SCC that could have caused object corruption...

-- 
Paul Horan[TeamSybase]

Where and when (at what intervalls) could I get the newest Builds of PB9 ?
I've some problems with PB901_7048 (provided by Jom Oneill via FTP)
Regards Hans


"Paul Horan[TeamSybase]" <paulhATvcisolutionsDOTcom> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3fc42d11$1@forums-1-dub...
> "Tyler Cruse" <tcruse@trlx.com> wrote in message
news:3fc4131e$1@forums-2-dub...
> > I would recommend 9.0.1.7048.  The EBF releases since 9.01 have all
fixed
> > problems for us. The number of problems with the IDE has decreased with
7048
> > also.
> >
>
> 9.0.1.7056 corrects a big issue for users of PBNative SCC that could have
caused object corruption...
>
> -- 
> Paul Horan[TeamSybase]
>
>

Paul Horan[TeamSybase] wrote:
> "Tyler Cruse" <tcruse@trlx.com> wrote in message news:3fc4131e$1@forums-2-dub...
> 
>>I would recommend 9.0.1.7048.  The EBF releases since 9.01 have all fixed
>>problems for us. The number of problems with the IDE has decreased with 7048
>>also.
>>
> 
> 
> 9.0.1.7056 corrects a big issue for users of PBNative SCC that could have caused object corruption...
> 
  *sigh*

Sounds like PB 7 to me all over again (main reason we've stuck 6.5 for 
so long).

Is 7056 at least publicly available or is it a $200 call to Sybase support?

John

> Sounds like PB 7 to me all over again (main reason we've
> stuck 6.5 for  so long).

Wait till PB10 then. Even releases are traditionally better
:-))

Philip wrote:
>>Sounds like PB 7 to me all over again (main reason we've
>>stuck 6.5 for  so long).
> 
> 
> Wait till PB10 then. Even releases are traditionally better
> :-))

It's a lot less funny now that we use other dev tools (Eclipse and 
VS.Net) and they never seem to be on "latest EBF from this week" 
galloping race that PB seems to be still stuck on.

Oh well...will test with 9.01 and see how it goes.

thanks for your input,
John

Actually VS.Net went thru several patches.
C++ compiler bugs in it are numerous. Microsoft decides on a
sparse release cycle WITHOUT the niceties like EBFs that
Sybase goes thru to satisfy particular customers.
PB is a 4GL, so NO amount of internal QA can catch all the
insane permutations of end usage.

EBFs became "public" because so many users wanted them to be
so. Now this is bad. Maybe they should make them "private"
again?
Then most likely I'll hear you whining about how to get
them...

> Philip wrote:
> >>Sounds like PB 7 to me all over again (main reason we've
> >>stuck 6.5 for  so long).
> >
> >
> > Wait till PB10 then. Even releases are traditionally
> > better :-))
>
> It's a lot less funny now that we use other dev tools
> (Eclipse and  VS.Net) and they never seem to be on "latest
> EBF from this week"  galloping race that PB seems to be
> still stuck on.
>
> Oh well...will test with 9.01 and see how it goes.
>
> thanks for your input,
> John
>

<Philip Salgannik> wrote in message news:3fc4f8c1.24e0.846930886@sybase.com...
> Actually VS.Net went thru several patches.
> C++ compiler bugs in it are numerous. Microsoft decides on a
> sparse release cycle WITHOUT the niceties like EBFs that
> Sybase goes thru to satisfy particular customers.
> PB is a 4GL, so NO amount of internal QA can catch all the
> insane permutations of end usage.
>
> EBFs became "public" because so many users wanted them to be
> so. Now this is bad. Maybe they should make them "private"
> again?
> Then most likely I'll hear you whining about how to get
> them...
>


Well said, Philip.

-- 
Paul Horan[TeamSybase]

We have been running 9.0.1 build 6533 in production in
approx one month. We had a few problems with the original
9.0 installed from CD so we descided to download latest.
We use it for a Materials management system, and the
production so far is for internal use. Approx 20 users. The
system is client/server based with Oracle 9.2 database.

We have very few problems with this version.
We tested the application against problems we had when
moving to PB7 to see if these were corrected. Most of the
problems did not reappear. The once we could reproduce was.
- Slow opening of datawindow sqlsyntax.
- Edit properties of datawindow fields lost unless you alter
edit style first, or closes/reopens datawindow before
applying properties.
- A few minor issues.

The only new problem we have found is that we windows
containing only one treeview does stop the sequence of
Ctrl+Tab srolling thru all open windows.

I would definitively recommend to try this build.

Best regards
erling kjerland

> I would go to version 9 since version 8 is going to be
> EOL'ed next year after PB 10 comes out. I've been on 9.0.1
> and had no problems, but again, it all depends on what
> features you are using.
>
> Ivan
>
> "John" <NOSPAM_johnb_at_nsbcenter_dot_com> wrote in
> message news:3fc3d027@forums-2-dub...
> > Evita Chapa wrote:
> > > Hey John,
> > >
> > > Stability really depends on your needs..What may be a
> show stopper for one
> > > shop another can live with it.
> > >
> > > We've been on PB9, build 6066 (9GA had problems with
> scrolltorow and that
> > > was killing us) and we're living with what bugs we've
> found since we've also
> > > seen the posts about 9.01 having problems..We're not
> > > going to another version until probably another GA is
> > out >
> >
> > Would you maybe recommend a version of PB 8 that was
> > more stable? 8.0.2 or 8.0.3?
> >
> > thanks,
> > John
> >
>
>