Migrating from ZPM 6.4 SP2 Update 4 to ZPM 11

Greetings,

Our enterprise is running a standalone installation of Zenworks Patch
Management v6.4 SP2 Update 4 on a Windows 2003 R2 server with a mixture
of v6.4.2.420 agents on XP machines and v6.4.2.504 agents on Win7
machines, all within an Active Directory domain.

We do understand that Zenworks Patch Management v11 (we intend to
migrate to the standalone product, not the Zenworks 11 suite) is a
complete rip-and-replace for ZPM v6.4 SP2u4.

As we have 1700+ machines, it goes without saying that we want to
proceed carefully and properly during the migration.  Our main focus is
on determining what is the best practice for updating the server and
agents.  

After going through the existing Novell documentation  --
http://www.novell.com/documentation/zenworks11/pdfdoc/zen11_pm_administration/zen11_pm_administration.pdf
-- we still have a few questions.

Should the server be upgraded first, at which point there will be a
period of time when old agents will be pointing to a server with the new
software?  Or should the agents be upgraded first, at which point there
will be a period of time when the Adaptive Agents will be pointing to a
server with the old software?

There are a number of other questions that would follow depending on
the answer to the above paragraph, but for now I'll leave it at that and
express thanks in advance for any assistance offered.


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Rnavarro17,

you can (if you have sufficient RAM) have both agents on the device at 
the same time - assuming you are putting in a new server. 

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Shaun
10/11/2011 11:04:20 PM
Shaun,

I'm following you so far ... thanks.

Does this migration strategy sound about right?  -->

1.  Existing Server A with ZPM 6.4 SP2u4 and client machines with "old"
agents pointing to Server A.

2.  Set up Server B with ZPM 11 SP1.

3.  Use Active Directory to deploy Adaptive Agent to client machines,
so now client machines have "old" agents pointing to Server A while
simultaneously running "new" agents pointing to Server B.

4.  Deploy agent removal tool  --  'ZENworks Patch Management Agent
Utility | Novell User Communities'
(http://www.novell.com/communities/node/3361)  -- to remove "old" agent
from XP machines.
4a.  [By the way, is there a similar tool to remove the v6.4.2.504
agents from Win7 machines?]

5.  Now that the old agents have been removed, we're left with client
machines running only the new agents pointing to Server B.

6.  Shut down Server A.


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rnavarro17
10/11/2011 11:36:01 PM
Rnavarro17,

sounds about right - of course you can use ZCM to deploy the agents as 
well; as far as I know, the utility will remove the later version also 
- failing that we could look at using the uninstall string from the 
registry I think

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Shaun
10/12/2011 5:07:52 PM
Does using the registry uninstall string un-register the workstation?

Rick

>>> Shaun Pond<spond@no-mx.forums.novell.com> 10/12/11 12:07 PM >>>
Rnavarro17,

sounds about right ‑ of course you can use ZCM to deploy the agents as 
well; as far as I know, the utility will remove the later version also 
‑ failing that we could look at using the uninstall string from the 
registry I think

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Rick
10/12/2011 5:28:13 PM
Shaun,

OK, per your advice, according to the migration strategy I laid out in
post #3 of this thread, we would be able to deploy the agents out thru
ZPM 11 SP1.  Got that.  (I assume that when you wrote that we could use
"ZCM" to deploy, that means we could use ZPM 11 SP1 as well?). 
Uninstalling the old agents through various methods, no problem.

My take on your first reply (post #2 within this thread) is that we can
have the old and new agents coexisting on client machines when each
agent points to different servers.  



*IF* our enterprise decided to do a rip-and-replace entirely on Server
A (Rip ZPM 6.4 from Server A then install ZPM 11 onto Server A), would
you then advise:

a)  On any particular client machine, make it a priority to remove the
old agent and then install the new Adaptive Agent.

or

b)  We can keep the old agents running and communicating to Server A
with ZPM 11 SP1 and migrate the agents to the new Adaptive Agent over a
long period of time (on the order of a few weeks or maybe even a couple
of months, whatever).


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rnavarro17
10/12/2011 5:46:01 PM
Rick,

it should, but I'll confess I haven't tried it; and I'm in a booth at 
Brainshare, making it a little awkward to run tests :)

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Shaun
10/12/2011 6:38:39 PM
Rnavarro17,

if it's a rip and replace, you must do a) because the ZPM 6.x agent 
cannot communicate to ZCM (the ZPM part in there), they are very 
different technologies

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Shaun
10/12/2011 6:40:11 PM
Shaun,

That's what I figured, but your clarification makes it all the more
clear.  Thanks much for your time and input.  Our migration strategy is
pretty much set now, take care.


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rnavarro17
10/12/2011 7:26:01 PM
Lucky You.

>>> On 10/12/11 at 1:38 PM, in message
<VA.0000f6d5.00dd6f22@no-mx.forums.novell.com>, Shaun
Pond<spond@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote:
> I'm in a booth at 
> Brainshare
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Rick
10/12/2011 7:35:07 PM
I know not applicable in your case, but we have not had good luck with both
running. Maybe it is because we have a lot of older slower workstations. It
seemed DAU for one or the other was always running. Things were slowing down
until they were indistinguishable from being locked up. We have ZPM 11
disabled at the server until we complete the changeover, and get all the ZEN
11 agents running, and ZPM shut down.

Rick

>>> rnavarro17<rnavarro17@no-mx.forums.novell.com> 10/12/11 2:26 PM >>>

Shaun,

That's what I figured, but your clarification makes it all the more
clear.  Thanks much for your time and input.  Our migration strategy is
pretty much set now, take care.


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Rick
10/12/2011 7:44:00 PM
Rick,

hey, I'm working! :)

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Shaun
10/12/2011 8:46:39 PM
Rnavarro17,

very glad to help

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10/12/2011 8:47:02 PM
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