Currently on NW5.1 with a few servers at main and remote offices.  Want 
(need) to upgrade to newer NOS, so my logical choice would be OES with the 
Netware option (and so that I can start playing with the Linux option).

On the training side I'd appreciate a few pointers.  I currently have a 
NW5.1 CNA and several years experience.  I'd like to get the necessary 
training to be able to upgrade and administer Netware 6.5, hopefully with 
some exposure to the Linux flavor on the side to get me started.  Preferably 
a certfication would help but not mandatory.  In the old days I'd be looking 
for a Netware 6.5 CNE or CNA, how about today?  What specific courses or 
course plan would be best?

On the Netware 6.5 side, does it include ZEN or at least a partial ZEN?  For 
instance right now I'm using the old Zenworks starter pack (version 2 I 
think) for the only reason being that I needed the DLU in order to avoid 2 
sets of password for my users with Windows 2000 or above workstations (which 
means all of them now...).  The Zenworks that I'm using isn't supported 
anymore and each client release risks breaking it.  Does NW6.5 include 
something that provides the DLU support natively?

I heard something about Netware 6.5 not needing the Netware client??  How do 
users login then?

Finally, does IFOLDER provide access via a web site to users Word/Excel 
files so that users out of the office can still work with files on the file 
server?  How does this work?  Does it download a copy of the file to the 
users local computer offsite, and keep track that it's been checked out or 
some similar control so 2 users don't access at the same time?

Sorry for the many questions, I have a lot of research to do, but figured 
I'd cover some of the key points above in order to start me on the right 
paths.

Timeline is to get the master replica server upgraded within 3 months.

Thanks
James 

JJB wrote:

>On the training side I'd appreciate a few pointers.  I currently have a 
>NW5.1 CNA and several years experience.  I'd like to get the necessary 
>training to be able to upgrade and administer Netware 6.5, hopefully with 
>some exposure to the Linux flavor on the side to get me started.  
>Preferably a certfication would help but not mandatory.  In the old days 
>I'd be looking for a Netware 6.5 CNE or CNA, how about today?  What 
>specific courses or course plan would be best?

I think there is a special NetWare 6.5 upgrade course (or at least there 
was in the past). If you are "fluent" in NetWare 5.1, such an upgrade 
course might be the best choice. However for more information on courses 
and certifications, you might want to ask in one of the following forums:

novell.community.certifications.cna
novell.community.certifications.cne

Also, check the Novell education web site:

http://www.novell.com/training/


>On the Netware 6.5 side, does it include ZEN or at least a partial ZEN?  
>For instance right now I'm using the old Zenworks starter pack (version 2 
>I think) for the only reason being that I needed the DLU in order to avoid 
>2 sets of password for my users with Windows 2000 or above workstations 
>(which means all of them now...).  The Zenworks that I'm using isn't 
>supported anymore and each client release risks breaking it.  Does NW6.5 
>include something that provides the DLU support natively?

There is no kind of ZENworks support included in NetWare 6.5. However if 
you want to avoid the double login, you should be aware that NetWare 6.5 
includes PDC emulation which allows you to import your workstations into a 
Windows like domain on the server and you can login with a network userid 
without this userid existing on the workstation.

>I heard something about Netware 6.5 not needing the Netware client??  How 
>do users login then?

NetWare 6.5 includes NFAP (Native File Access Protocols). This is in 
reality a bundle of 3 compenents:

CIFS: which makes the server behave as a Windows server and thus allows 
Windows workstations to login using their native network components 
without a Novell client

AFP: makes the server behave as an AFP server allowing Macintosh computers 
to natively connect.

NFS: allows Unix or Unix like operating systems to mount NetWare voluems 
through the NFS protocol

>Finally, does IFOLDER provide access via a web site to users Word/Excel 
>files so that users out of the office can still work with files on the 
>file server?  How does this work?  Does it download a copy of the file to 
>the users local computer offsite, and keep track that it's been checked 
>out or some similar control so 2 users don't access at the same time?

No. iFolder is a product that allows a single user to sychronize his 
private files between multiple computers (the files being copied through 
the server). It is not a file sharing solution between multiple users, nor 
does it allow you to access normal files on the server.
However Netstorage allows you to remotely access server files using the 
HTTP protocol and as such can be used over the Internet. Functionally, 
Netstorage just behaves as an alternate NetWare client doing file access 
through HTTP instead of NCP.

-- 
Marcel Cox (using XanaNews 1.17.6.6)

Marcel, thanks for all the great info!

"Marcel Cox" <cimetmc@myrealbox.com> wrote in message 
news:fRsdf.26$Re7.3@janeway.provo.novell.com...
> JJB wrote:
>
>>On the training side I'd appreciate a few pointers.  I currently have a 
>>NW5.1 CNA and several years experience.  I'd like to get the necessary 
>>training to be able to upgrade and administer Netware 6.5, hopefully with 
>>some exposure to the Linux flavor on the side to get me started. 
>>Preferably a certfication would help but not mandatory.  In the old days 
>>I'd be looking for a Netware 6.5 CNE or CNA, how about today?  What 
>>specific courses or course plan would be best?
>
> I think there is a special NetWare 6.5 upgrade course (or at least there 
> was in the past). If you are "fluent" in NetWare 5.1, such an upgrade 
> course might be the best choice. However for more information on courses 
> and certifications, you might want to ask in one of the following forums:
>
> novell.community.certifications.cna
> novell.community.certifications.cne
>
> Also, check the Novell education web site:
>
> http://www.novell.com/training/
>
>
>>On the Netware 6.5 side, does it include ZEN or at least a partial ZEN? 
>>For instance right now I'm using the old Zenworks starter pack (version 2 
>>I think) for the only reason being that I needed the DLU in order to avoid 
>>2 sets of password for my users with Windows 2000 or above workstations 
>>(which means all of them now...).  The Zenworks that I'm using isn't 
>>supported anymore and each client release risks breaking it.  Does NW6.5 
>>include something that provides the DLU support natively?
>
> There is no kind of ZENworks support included in NetWare 6.5. However if 
> you want to avoid the double login, you should be aware that NetWare 6.5 
> includes PDC emulation which allows you to import your workstations into a 
> Windows like domain on the server and you can login with a network userid 
> without this userid existing on the workstation.
>
>>I heard something about Netware 6.5 not needing the Netware client??  How 
>>do users login then?
>
> NetWare 6.5 includes NFAP (Native File Access Protocols). This is in 
> reality a bundle of 3 compenents:
>
> CIFS: which makes the server behave as a Windows server and thus allows 
> Windows workstations to login using their native network components 
> without a Novell client
>
> AFP: makes the server behave as an AFP server allowing Macintosh computers 
> to natively connect.
>
> NFS: allows Unix or Unix like operating systems to mount NetWare voluems 
> through the NFS protocol
>
>>Finally, does IFOLDER provide access via a web site to users Word/Excel 
>>files so that users out of the office can still work with files on the 
>>file server?  How does this work?  Does it download a copy of the file to 
>>the users local computer offsite, and keep track that it's been checked 
>>out or some similar control so 2 users don't access at the same time?
>
> No. iFolder is a product that allows a single user to sychronize his 
> private files between multiple computers (the files being copied through 
> the server). It is not a file sharing solution between multiple users, nor 
> does it allow you to access normal files on the server.
> However Netstorage allows you to remotely access server files using the 
> HTTP protocol and as such can be used over the Internet. Functionally, 
> Netstorage just behaves as an alternate NetWare client doing file access 
> through HTTP instead of NCP.
>
> -- 
> Marcel Cox (using XanaNews 1.17.6.6)