I have three Netware 6 servers and 300 NW6 user licences. I bought 300 NW6.5
user licences upgrade. After I will upgrade one server to NW6.5 how should I
proceed with client upgrade licences to insure that users can communicate
with all servers?
Thanks,
Nathan

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 20:42:51 GMT, "Nathan Kaplan"
<nkaplan@chacinc.com> wrote:

>I have three Netware 6 servers and 300 NW6 user licences. I bought 300 NW6.5
>user licences upgrade. After I will upgrade one server to NW6.5 how should I
>proceed with client upgrade licences to insure that users can communicate
>with all servers?

Install the NW 6.5 user licenses in or above the highest container
holding user objects.  Do not assign the user licenses to any server.

---------------
Donald Albury
Novell Product Support Volunteer SysOp
Sorry, no replies to e-mail responses

"If something is so complicated that you can't 
explain it in 10 seconds, then it's probably not 
worth knowing anyway."  Bill Waterson

Assuming you have one site - Install all users licenses and the one
server license in the O= container.  Can be done via iManager or
NWAdmin.

Servers and users look UP the tree for a license.  NOT across
containers.

-- 
Timothy Leerhoff
Principal Consultant
Independant Experts
Novell Support Forums Volenteer Sysop

Remember:
"Whether you think you can do something or you think you cannot, you
are probably right."

All opinions expressed are mine alone.

Guys,
My question is 6.5 connection license backward compatible with NW6. I will
have one NW6.5 and two NW6 servers for a few months. Will NW6 servers be
accessible with NW6.5 connection license?
Thanks,
Nathan

"Timothy Leerhoff" <tleerhoffNO@SPAMmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:MVl9d.3501$Bo1.1224@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com...
> Assuming you have one site - Install all users licenses and the one
> server license in the O= container.  Can be done via iManager or
> NWAdmin.
>
> Servers and users look UP the tree for a license.  NOT across
> containers.
>
> -- 
> Timothy Leerhoff
> Principal Consultant
> Independant Experts
> Novell Support Forums Volenteer Sysop
>
> Remember:
> "Whether you think you can do something or you think you cannot, you
> are probably right."
>
> All opinions expressed are mine alone.

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:32:43 GMT, "Nathan Kaplan"
<nkaplan@chacinc.com> wrote:

>My question is 6.5 connection license backward compatible with NW6. I will
>have one NW6.5 and two NW6 servers for a few months. Will NW6 servers be
>accessible with NW6.5 connection license?

No.  But if you can have both 6.0 and 6.5 server licenses in the tree.

---------------
Donald Albury
Novell Product Support Volunteer SysOp
Sorry, no replies to e-mail responses

"If something is so complicated that you can't 
explain it in 10 seconds, then it's probably not 
worth knowing anyway."  Bill Waterson

Thanks for your help.
I think for many customers it,s a major inconvinience during the upgrade.
regards,
Nathan

"Donald Albury" <dalbury@not.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:c14dm09ajn0h1g3ri5o0uhalounk8s3267@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:32:43 GMT, "Nathan Kaplan"
> <nkaplan@chacinc.com> wrote:
>
> >My question is 6.5 connection license backward compatible with NW6. I
will
> >have one NW6.5 and two NW6 servers for a few months. Will NW6 servers be
> >accessible with NW6.5 connection license?
>
> No.  But if you can have both 6.0 and 6.5 server licenses in the tree.
>
> ---------------
> Donald Albury
> Novell Product Support Volunteer SysOp
> Sorry, no replies to e-mail responses
>
> "If something is so complicated that you can't
> explain it in 10 seconds, then it's probably not
> worth knowing anyway."  Bill Waterson

Not really, I'm still running a mix of NW6 and 6.5 servers here, both
sets of licenses have been installed, accessing a 6.5 server checks one
set of licenses, accessing a 6.0 server merely checks the other pool of
licenses that you already have working

Cheers Dave


-- 

Dave Parkes [NSCS]
Occasionally resident at http://support-forums.novell.com/

Dave,
All 300 users needs access to two NW6 servers, and around 30 need access to
NW6.5 server. I have only 300 NW6 licenses and 300 NW6.5 upgrade licenses.
If I will upgrade 30 licenses I will not have enoughp to access NW6 servers.
Regards,
Nathan

"Dave Parkes" <Dave@Norgren.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xn0doa295bjzvsc05o@support-forums.novell.com...
> Not really, I'm still running a mix of NW6 and 6.5 servers here, both
> sets of licenses have been installed, accessing a 6.5 server checks one
> set of licenses, accessing a 6.0 server merely checks the other pool of
> licenses that you already have working
>
> Cheers Dave
>
>
> -- 
>
> Dave Parkes [NSCS]
> Occasionally resident at http://support-forums.novell.com/

You still have the NW6 licenses locked into the tree, you ALSO have the
300 NW6.5 licenses, so in essence you have 600 licenses, split into 2
pools by OS. Believe me, it isn't a problem for the two sets of
licenses to coexist in the tree

Cheers Dave


-- 

Dave Parkes [NSCS]
Occasionally resident at http://support-forums.novell.com/

> You still have the NW6 licenses locked into the tree, you ALSO have the
> 300 NW6.5 licenses, so in essence you have 600 licenses, split into 2
> pools by OS. Believe me, it isn't a problem for the two sets of
> licenses to coexist in the tree
> 
Interesting, this is true even if the 6.5 licenses were purchased as 
*upgrade* licenses?


-- 
Barry Schnur
Novell Support Connection Volunteer Sysop

Certainly is, I'm not converting 8 servers instantly :-), licenses are
licenses, the upgrade/new is a marketing thing.

Cheers Dave


-- 

Dave Parkes [NSCS]
Occasionally resident at http://support-forums.novell.com/

> Certainly is, I'm not converting 8 servers instantly :-), licenses are
> licenses, the upgrade/new is a marketing thing.

I understand the distinction -- and expected this not to be a technical issue 
-- just wondered if it was a legal thing -- ie you purchase upgrade licenses 
at upgrade license costs, can you retain use of the original licenses at the 
same time -- legally?

-- 
Barry Schnur
Novell Support Connection Volunteer Sysop

<Shrug>, the users are licensed, but require 6 licenses for 6 servers
and 6.5 licenses for 6.5 servers, the maximum number on any specific
server is 300, which is the license limit - it's not as if you get 600
logins to 1 server by using both

Cheers Dave


-- 

Dave Parkes [NSCS]
Occasionally resident at http://support-forums.novell.com/

Right, I understand -- just don't want swarms of lawyers introducing 
themselves to you -- would violate the 'be kind to lawyers act' <g>


-- 
Barry Schnur
Novell Support Connection Volunteer Sysop

Guys,
Thanks for your clarifications. So I can safely install 6.5 upgrade licenses
and have all 300 users able to use all NW6 and NW6.5 servers for a time of a
complete upgrade?
Thanks again,
Nathan

"Barry Schnur" <BSchnur@cox.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bd4acff53aa9f8198b220@support-forums.novell.com...
> Right, I understand -- just don't want swarms of lawyers introducing
> themselves to you -- would violate the 'be kind to lawyers act' <g>
>
>
> -- 
> Barry Schnur
> Novell Support Connection Volunteer Sysop

They'd need to be having a really quiet day to bother about me :-)

Cheers Dave


-- 

Dave Parkes [NSCS]
Occasionally resident at http://support-forums.novell.com/

Well, that's what I do here at least, and as the total user population
is still capped, I don't see it as a problem although an overly
enthusiastic lawyer might :-)

Cheers Dave


-- 

Dave Parkes [NSCS]
Occasionally resident at http://support-forums.novell.com/

Yes -- not sure of the 'legal licensing' implications -- but there is no 
technical constraint.


-- 
Barry Schnur
Novell Support Connection Volunteer Sysop

Understood -- an evil part of me would like to see what was left after that 
sort of lawyer tried to chastise you <g>


-- 
Barry Schnur
Novell Support Connection Volunteer Sysop

In the US we have over 1 million lawyers....


-- 
Barry Schnur
Novell Support Connection Volunteer Sysop

Leaving a mere 250 million potential litigants :-)

Cheers Dave


-- 

Dave Parkes [NSCS]
Occasionally resident at http://support-forums.novell.com/