Bookmarks: how to export SOME bookmarks

Is there a simple way to export/import selected folders from FireBird? 
I'd like to give a bunch of selected bookmarks to a friend, but not my 
entire bookmark file. And/or, I'd like to be able to export my bookmark 
file to a diskette to take along when travelling and using other 
computers, but the whole thing won't fit on a diskette.

I tried Bookmarks>Manage Bookmarks, highlighted a folder, then 
File>Export, but...

The export function seems to export the entire file, when what I want is 
just a subset of the bookmarks. The only way I can think of is to:

  1. export the bookmark file to save it
  2. delete all the bookmark folders I don't want in my "real" export
  3. export it again as my desired bookmark file
  4. delete all the remaining bookmarks/folders
  5. import the file I saved in step 1

That seems like a hard way to accomplish what I want to do.
Is there an easier way?

WayneC
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WayneC wrote:
> 
> Is there a simple way to export/import selected folders from
> FireBird? I'd like to give a bunch of selected bookmarks to a
> friend, but not my entire bookmark file. And/or, I'd like to be
> able to export my bookmark file to a diskette to take along when
> travelling and using other computers, but the whole thing won't
> fit on a diskette.

Just edit it in a text editor.  Keep suitable backups.

-- 
Chuck F (cbfalconer@yahoo.com) (cbfalconer@worldnet.att.net)
   Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
   <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>  USE worldnet address!

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CBFalconer
3/13/2005 11:31:38 AM
WayneC wrote:
> Is there a simple way to export/import selected folders from FireBird? 
> I'd like to give a bunch of selected bookmarks to a friend, but not my 
> entire bookmark file. And/or, I'd like to be able to export my bookmark 
> file to a diskette to take along when travelling and using other 
> computers, but the whole thing won't fit on a diskette.

The bookmarks.html file is a plain text file.  If you zip it, it will be
significantly reduced in size and would likely fit on a diskette.  Most
computers have some sort of unzip facility, so you could uncompress them
at destination.

Alternatively, WinZip will allow you to create a self-extracting file
which *may* also fit -- the self-extracting program occupies a certain
amount of disk space.  Caveat:  the destination computer may not allow
the self-extractor to be run, depending on the security settings of that
system.

> I tried Bookmarks>Manage Bookmarks, highlighted a folder, then 
> File>Export, but...

> The export function seems to export the entire file, when what I want is 
> just a subset of the bookmarks. The only way I can think of is to:

>   1. export the bookmark file to save it
>   2. delete all the bookmark folders I don't want in my "real" export
>   3. export it again as my desired bookmark file
>   4. delete all the remaining bookmarks/folders
>   5. import the file I saved in step 1

> That seems like a hard way to accomplish what I want to do.
> Is there an easier way?

Well, you should only have to do it once.  Besides, you can
ctrl-click/shift-click to select multiple folders at once.  Shouldn't
take very long.

-- 
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DC
3/13/2005 2:58:39 PM
DC wrote:
> WayneC wrote:
> 
>>Is there a simple way to export/import selected folders from FireBird? 
>>I'd like to give a bunch of selected bookmarks to a friend, but not my 
>>entire bookmark file. And/or, I'd like to be able to export my bookmark 
>>file to a diskette to take along when travelling and using other 
>>computers, but the whole thing won't fit on a diskette.
> 
> 
> The bookmarks.html file is a plain text file.  If you zip it, it will be
> significantly reduced in size and would likely fit on a diskette.  Most
> computers have some sort of unzip facility, so you could uncompress them
> at destination.

That's a good thought, I'll try it... but it still involves the entire 
bookmark file and I only want parts of it (see my comments at the bottom).

> 
> Alternatively, WinZip will allow you to create a self-extracting file
> which *may* also fit -- the self-extracting program occupies a certain
> amount of disk space.  Caveat:  the destination computer may not allow
> the self-extractor to be run, depending on the security settings of that
> system.
> 
> 
>>I tried Bookmarks>Manage Bookmarks, highlighted a folder, then 
>>File>Export, but...
> 
> 
>>The export function seems to export the entire file, when what I want is 
>>just a subset of the bookmarks. The only way I can think of is to:
> 
> 
>>  1. export the bookmark file to save it
>>  2. delete all the bookmark folders I don't want in my "real" export
>>  3. export it again as my desired bookmark file
>>  4. delete all the remaining bookmarks/folders
>>  5. import the file I saved in step 1
> 
> 
>>That seems like a hard way to accomplish what I want to do.
>>Is there an easier way?
> 
> 
> Well, you should only have to do it once.  Besides, you can
> ctrl-click/shift-click to select multiple folders at once.  Shouldn't
> take very long.
>

I may need to do it a lot more than once.

If I'm not mistaken, when you IMPORT a bookmark file, it simply appends 
the  imported bookmark file to your existing bookmarks as a folder, so 
it seemed logical to me that you should be able to export selected folders.
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WayneC
3/13/2005 6:33:34 PM
WayneC wrote:
> DC wrote:
>> WayneC wrote:
>> 
>>>Is there a simple way to export/import selected folders from FireBird? 
>>>I'd like to give a bunch of selected bookmarks to a friend, but not my 
>>>entire bookmark file. And/or, I'd like to be able to export my bookmark 
>>>file to a diskette to take along when travelling and using other 
>>>computers, but the whole thing won't fit on a diskette.
>> 
>> 
>> The bookmarks.html file is a plain text file.  If you zip it, it will be
>> significantly reduced in size and would likely fit on a diskette.  Most
>> computers have some sort of unzip facility, so you could uncompress them
>> at destination.
> 
> That's a good thought, I'll try it... but it still involves the entire 
> bookmark file and I only want parts of it (see my comments at the bottom).

What I'd do is first backup my bookmarks.html as a safety measure, then 
Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks; edit out the "cruft"; Tools, Export to a 
unique name, and transport that file.  Easily re nameable at the new 
destination.

Rinaldi
-- 
The grand leap of the whale up the Fall of Niagara is esteemed, by all
who have seen it, as one of the finest spectacles in nature.
		-- Benjamin Franklin.
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Rinaldi
3/13/2005 6:50:34 PM
Well, I see now where I got the idea you could export a bookmark folder 
without exporting the whole bookmark file: MS Internet Explorer will do 
just that; apparently Firefox will not. MSIE keeps the bookmarks as 
normal file folders in your login userid information folder, but I 
haven't located.
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WayneC
3/13/2005 7:09:47 PM
CBFalconer wrote:
> WayneC wrote:
> 
>>Is there a simple way to export/import selected folders from
>>FireBird? I'd like to give a bunch of selected bookmarks to a
>>friend, but not my entire bookmark file. And/or, I'd like to be
>>able to export my bookmark file to a diskette to take along when
>>travelling and using other computers, but the whole thing won't
>>fit on a diskette.
> 
> 
> Just edit it in a text editor.  Keep suitable backups.
> 

Could you elaborate here a little? ... it's a .html file, isn't it?
It says right at the top of the file:

<!-- This is an automatically generated file.
      It will be read and overwritten.
      DO NOT EDIT! -->

So, assuming I'm not conversant in html programming, how would I edit it 
without screwing it up?
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WayneC
3/13/2005 7:15:26 PM
Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
> WayneC wrote:
> 
>> DC wrote:
>>
>>> WayneC wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there a simple way to export/import selected folders from 
>>>> FireBird? I'd like to give a bunch of selected bookmarks to a 
>>>> friend, but not my entire bookmark file. And/or, I'd like to be able 
>>>> to export my bookmark file to a diskette to take along when 
>>>> travelling and using other computers, but the whole thing won't fit 
>>>> on a diskette.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The bookmarks.html file is a plain text file.  If you zip it, it will be
>>> significantly reduced in size and would likely fit on a diskette.  Most
>>> computers have some sort of unzip facility, so you could uncompress them
>>> at destination.
>>
>>
>> That's a good thought, I'll try it... but it still involves the entire 
>> bookmark file and I only want parts of it (see my comments at the 
>> bottom).
> 
> 
> What I'd do is first backup my bookmarks.html as a safety measure, then 
> Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks; edit out the "cruft"; Tools, Export to a 
> unique name, and transport that file.  Easily re nameable at the new 
> destination.
> 
> Rinaldi

Rinaldi, isn't that the 5-step procedure I said I was trying to avoid 
doing in my original post at the start of this thread?

A few minutes ago I discovered why I had thought there was a simpler 
way: MS Internet Explorer does allow individual bookmark folders to be 
exported and imported; apparently FireFox does not. Now I guess I need 
to experiment to see if Firefox will append imported folders, or if it 
destroys the existing bookmarks when it does an import.
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WayneC
3/13/2005 7:23:16 PM
WayneC wrote:
> Well, I see now where I got the idea you could export a bookmark folder 
> without exporting the whole bookmark file: MS Internet Explorer will do 
> just that; apparently Firefox will not. MSIE keeps the bookmarks as 
> normal file folders in your login userid information folder, but I 
> haven't located.


Which gives me an idea... I can:

1. import the Firefox bookmarks to MSIE, which will append them to it's 
own bookmarks

2. Use MSIE Favorites>Organize Favorites to delete the sections/folders 
of the appended bookmark file that I don't want.

3. export the previously imported/edited folder to a diskette (since 
MSIE allows individual folders within the bookmarks file to be exported)

BUT.... I probably couldn't add/import that bookmark folder to FireFox 
on another system without destroying the existing bookmarks there.

Those of you who said I could just edit the FireFox bookmarks as a 
normal text file... do you mean edit the bookmarks.html file? (see my 
prior post about my reluctance to edit html files)
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WayneC
3/13/2005 7:35:15 PM
WayneC wrote:
> Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>> WayneC wrote:
>> 
>>> DC wrote:
>>>
>>>> WayneC wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there a simple way to export/import selected folders from 
>>>>> FireBird? I'd like to give a bunch of selected bookmarks to a 
>>>>> friend, but not my entire bookmark file. And/or, I'd like to be able 
>>>>> to export my bookmark file to a diskette to take along when 
>>>>> travelling and using other computers, but the whole thing won't fit 
>>>>> on a diskette.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The bookmarks.html file is a plain text file.  If you zip it, it will be
>>>> significantly reduced in size and would likely fit on a diskette.  Most
>>>> computers have some sort of unzip facility, so you could uncompress them
>>>> at destination.
>>>
>>>
>>> That's a good thought, I'll try it... but it still involves the entire 
>>> bookmark file and I only want parts of it (see my comments at the 
>>> bottom).
>> 
>> 
>> What I'd do is first backup my bookmarks.html as a safety measure, then 
>> Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks; edit out the "cruft"; Tools, Export to a 
>> unique name, and transport that file.  Easily re nameable at the new 
>> destination.
>> 
>> Rinaldi
> 
> Rinaldi, isn't that the 5-step procedure I said I was trying to avoid 
> doing in my original post at the start of this thread?

Um.  Unless the program has some form of precognitive function I'm not 
aware, of you're going to have to select what bookmarks you want to 
transport in some fashion or other.

> A few minutes ago I discovered why I had thought there was a simpler 
> way: MS Internet Explorer does allow individual bookmark folders to be 
> exported and imported; apparently FireFox does not. Now I guess I need 
> to experiment to see if Firefox will append imported folders, or if it 
> destroys the existing bookmarks when it does an import.

I'm sure there's more than one way to skin this cat.  With mozilla 
another option would be to browse to your bookmarks file, open it in the 
editor, hack away, and save as.  I don't know if those functions are 
available in firefox.

Rinaldi
-- 
Teamwork is essential -- it allows you to blame someone else.
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Rinaldi
3/13/2005 7:53:01 PM
Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:

>WayneC wrote:
>  
>
>>Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>WayneC wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>DC wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>WayneC wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there a simple way to export/import selected folders from 
>>>>>>FireBird? I'd like to give a bunch of selected bookmarks to a 
>>>>>>friend, but not my entire bookmark file. And/or, I'd like to be able 
>>>>>>to export my bookmark file to a diskette to take along when 
>>>>>>travelling and using other computers, but the whole thing won't fit 
>>>>>>on a diskette.
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The bookmarks.html file is a plain text file.  If you zip it, it will be
>>>>>significantly reduced in size and would likely fit on a diskette.  Most
>>>>>computers have some sort of unzip facility, so you could uncompress them
>>>>>at destination.
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>That's a good thought, I'll try it... but it still involves the entire 
>>>>bookmark file and I only want parts of it (see my comments at the 
>>>>bottom).
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>What I'd do is first backup my bookmarks.html as a safety measure, then 
>>>Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks; edit out the "cruft"; Tools, Export to a 
>>>unique name, and transport that file.  Easily re nameable at the new 
>>>destination.
>>>
>>>Rinaldi
>>>      
>>>
>>Rinaldi, isn't that the 5-step procedure I said I was trying to avoid 
>>doing in my original post at the start of this thread?
>>    
>>
>
>Um.  Unless the program has some form of precognitive function I'm not 
>aware, of you're going to have to select what bookmarks you want to 
>transport in some fashion or other.
>
>  
>
>>A few minutes ago I discovered why I had thought there was a simpler 
>>way: MS Internet Explorer does allow individual bookmark folders to be 
>>exported and imported; apparently FireFox does not. Now I guess I need 
>>to experiment to see if Firefox will append imported folders, or if it 
>>destroys the existing bookmarks when it does an import.
>>    
>>
>
>I'm sure there's more than one way to skin this cat.  With mozilla 
>another option would be to browse to your bookmarks file, open it in the 
>editor, hack away, and save as.  I don't know if those functions are 
>available in firefox.
>
>Rinaldi
>  
>
The closest thing I can think of doing is to open the Bookmark Manager. 
Then open the bookmark folder you want to copy. Select all the bookmarks 
in that folder, right-click - Copy.

The clipboard will contain the URLs to all of those bookmarks (no 
titles). You can paste that list anywhere you like.

Now this brings me to a question. If I save that file and Import it, 
what happens?

I tried it and I can not find the bookmarks I supposedly imported. I 
copied five bookmarks, pasted them into a file (five URLs on five 
lines), saved the file, and then Imported it as a file (in Bookmark 
Manager). Where do they go? Or perhaps the question is - what is the 
required format of the bookmarks in the file being imported?

I'd love to have this functionality. It would be a great way to share 
bookmarks with friends. Export a folder of bookmarks. Email them to a 
friend and have your friend be able to Import them into a folder.

Or perhaps when traveling - you could bring along your essential 
bookmarks and import them into another browser.

-- 
*****************************
 Chuck Anderson � Boulder, CO
 http://www.CycleTourist.com
 Integrity is obvious.
 The lack of it is common.
*****************************
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Chuck
3/13/2005 8:56:52 PM
On approximately 3/13/2005 11:35 AM, came the following characters from 
the keyboard of WayneC:

> WayneC wrote:
> 
>> Well, I see now where I got the idea you could export a bookmark 
>> folder without exporting the whole bookmark file: MS Internet Explorer 
>> will do just that; apparently Firefox will not. MSIE keeps the 
>> bookmarks as normal file folders in your login userid information 
>> folder, but I haven't located.
> 
> 
> 
> Which gives me an idea... I can:
> 
> 1. import the Firefox bookmarks to MSIE, which will append them to it's 
> own bookmarks
> 
> 2. Use MSIE Favorites>Organize Favorites to delete the sections/folders 
> of the appended bookmark file that I don't want.
> 
> 3. export the previously imported/edited folder to a diskette (since 
> MSIE allows individual folders within the bookmarks file to be exported)
> 
> BUT.... I probably couldn't add/import that bookmark folder to FireFox 
> on another system without destroying the existing bookmarks there.
> 
> Those of you who said I could just edit the FireFox bookmarks as a 
> normal text file... do you mean edit the bookmarks.html file? (see my 
> prior post about my reluctance to edit html files)

Yes it is HTML.  Yes you could use NVU instead of a text editor to edit 
it.  NVU may drop some Moz/FF attributes that are not standard, like 
timestamps and stuff, or maybe they are standard?  I dunno, looks to me 
like there's lots of stuff in the bookmarks.html file links that I never 
see anywhere else.

-- 
Glenn -- http://nevcal.com/
===========================
Having identified a vast realm of ignorance, Wolfram is saying that much
of this realm lies forever outside the light cone of human knowledge.
                           -- Michael Swaine, Dr Dobbs Journal, Sept 2002
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Glenn
3/13/2005 9:19:56 PM
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:35:15 -0800, WayneC <WayneC@linkline.moc> wrote:

>Those of you who said I could just edit the FireFox bookmarks as a 
>normal text file... do you mean edit the bookmarks.html file? (see my 
>prior post about my reluctance to edit html files)

Ever done it?

I backup the files to be edited and edit the necessary file (in this case,
bookmarks.html in both cases)  taking the approach of

a. It works,
b. It doesn't.

If b., then replace edited files with backup files.
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FACE
3/14/2005 1:37:03 AM
WayneC wrote:
> WayneC wrote:
> 
>> Well, I see now where I got the idea you could export a bookmark 
>> folder without exporting the whole bookmark file: MS Internet Explorer 
>> will do just that; apparently Firefox will not. MSIE keeps the 
>> bookmarks as normal file folders in your login userid information 
>> folder, but I haven't located.
> 
> 
> 
> Which gives me an idea... I can:
> 
> 1. import the Firefox bookmarks to MSIE, which will append them to it's 
> own bookmarks
> 
> 2. Use MSIE Favorites>Organize Favorites to delete the sections/folders 
> of the appended bookmark file that I don't want.
> 
> 3. export the previously imported/edited folder to a diskette (since 
> MSIE allows individual folders within the bookmarks file to be exported)
> 
> BUT.... I probably couldn't add/import that bookmark folder to FireFox 
> on another system without destroying the existing bookmarks there.
> 
> Those of you who said I could just edit the FireFox bookmarks as a 
> normal text file... do you mean edit the bookmarks.html file? (see my 
> prior post about my reluctance to edit html files)

An HTML file IS a plain-text file.  It simply has markup "codes" in it 
that define for the browser reading the file how to display various 
things. But the file is plain text.  Go to any Web page and do CTRL-U in 
Firefox.  You'll see the plain text along with the markup codes (also 
just plain text).  Likewise, just open bookmarks.html in a text editor 
and you'll see that it is completely editable plain text.

As to your original question ...

If you're comfortable editing an HTML file (doesn't sound like it to me 
at this point):

1. copy bookmarks.html somewhere on your hard drive
2. open the copy in Notepad or Wordpad or some text editor
3. delete all the bookmarks you don't want to transfer
4. save the file and put it on a disk

If you're NOT interested in diving into the HTML file:

1. copy bookmarks.html somewhere on your hard drive
2. open the file in Nvu or another WYSIWYG HTML editor
3. delete all the bookmarks you don't want to transfer
4. save the file and put it on a disk

On the destination system, rename the bookmarks.html file to 
bookmarks.html.bak.  Copy the truncated bookmarks.html file to the 
Firefox profile.  Open Firefox.

When you're done, delete the bookmarks.html file and rename the original.

By the way, if you want to not mess with the destination system's 
bookmarks.html file, simply open the truncated one from the diskette in 
Firefox (or IE, or Mozilla, or any browser).  It will appear in the 
browser with all the folder hierarchy intact and all the links clickable.

Caveat:  bookmarks.html is a special format file.  Trying to do much 
other than deleting links in a WYSIWYG editor will produce unexpected 
(read: /bad/) results.

-- 
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://edmullen.net/Mozilla/moz.html
http://edmullen.net/Mozilla/seamonk.html
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Ed
3/14/2005 2:15:33 AM
Glenn wrote:
> On approximately 3/13/2005 11:35 AM, came the following characters from 
> the keyboard of WayneC:
> 
>> WayneC wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I see now where I got the idea you could export a bookmark 
>>> folder without exporting the whole bookmark file: MS Internet 
>>> Explorer will do just that; apparently Firefox will not. MSIE keeps 
>>> the bookmarks as normal file folders in your login userid information 
>>> folder, but I haven't located.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Which gives me an idea... I can:
>>
>> 1. import the Firefox bookmarks to MSIE, which will append them to 
>> it's own bookmarks
>>
>> 2. Use MSIE Favorites>Organize Favorites to delete the 
>> sections/folders of the appended bookmark file that I don't want.
>>
>> 3. export the previously imported/edited folder to a diskette (since 
>> MSIE allows individual folders within the bookmarks file to be exported)
>>
>> BUT.... I probably couldn't add/import that bookmark folder to FireFox 
>> on another system without destroying the existing bookmarks there.
>>
>> Those of you who said I could just edit the FireFox bookmarks as a 
>> normal text file... do you mean edit the bookmarks.html file? (see my 
>> prior post about my reluctance to edit html files)
> 
> 
> Yes it is HTML.  Yes you could use NVU instead of a text editor to edit 
> it.  NVU may drop some Moz/FF attributes that are not standard, like 
> timestamps and stuff, or maybe they are standard?  I dunno, looks to me 
> like there's lots of stuff in the bookmarks.html file links that I never 
> see anywhere else.
>


I have no clue what NVU is. I Googled a few pages that talk about an NVU 
project involving Mozilla, but nothing that says what it is or what it does.

I did the procedure I outlined above to get an HTML file with the 
desired bookmarks in it onto a diskette, but now I realize I will have 
the same issue trying to add my exported bookmarks to a FireFox browser 
on another machine, because importing will replace all the existing 
bookmarks with this new file. I do not want to destroy someone else's 
bookmark file.

I guess if you can use a text editor to edit some bookmarks out of the 
bookmark file from the source FireFox system, you could edit them into 
the target FireFox system bookmark file.

BUT, I am still not clear how to do that editing since I do not speak 
HTML markup language. I am afraid I would just screw up the target's 
existing bookmark file.

Gotta/oughta be a simpler way.
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WayneC
3/14/2005 2:46:09 AM
WayneC wrote:

[...]

> I have no clue what NVU is. I Googled a few pages that talk about an NVU 
> project involving Mozilla, but nothing that says what it is or what it does.


I just Googled for "NVU".  The *first* hit is the home page
(http://www.nvu.com).  From this home page, I quote from the *first*
paragraph:

<q>
Finally!  A complete Web Authoring System for Linux Desktop users as
well as Microsoft Windows and Macintosh users to rival programs like
FrontPage and Dreamweaver.

Nvu (pronounced N-view, for a "new view") makes managing a web site a
snap.  Now anyone can create web pages and manage a website with no
technical expertise or knowledge of HTML.
</q>

Time for a trip to the optometrist, Wayne?

-- 
DC              Linux RU #1000111011000111001

Customize Xnews - http://dcicons.fateback.com
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DC
3/14/2005 3:26:03 AM
Ed Mullen wrote:
> WayneC wrote:
> 
>> WayneC wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I see now where I got the idea you could export a bookmark 
>>> folder without exporting the whole bookmark file: MS Internet 
>>> Explorer will do just that; apparently Firefox will not. MSIE keeps 
>>> the bookmarks as normal file folders in your login userid information 
>>> folder, but I haven't located.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Which gives me an idea... I can:
>>
>> 1. import the Firefox bookmarks to MSIE, which will append them to 
>> it's own bookmarks
>>
>> 2. Use MSIE Favorites>Organize Favorites to delete the 
>> sections/folders of the appended bookmark file that I don't want.
>>
>> 3. export the previously imported/edited folder to a diskette (since 
>> MSIE allows individual folders within the bookmarks file to be exported)
>>
>> BUT.... I probably couldn't add/import that bookmark folder to FireFox 
>> on another system without destroying the existing bookmarks there.
>>
>> Those of you who said I could just edit the FireFox bookmarks as a 
>> normal text file... do you mean edit the bookmarks.html file? (see my 
>> prior post about my reluctance to edit html files)
> 
> 
> An HTML file IS a plain-text file.  It simply has markup "codes" in it 
> that define for the browser reading the file how to display various 
> things. But the file is plain text.  Go to any Web page and do CTRL-U in 
> Firefox.  You'll see the plain text along with the markup codes (also 
> just plain text).  Likewise, just open bookmarks.html in a text editor 
> and you'll see that it is completely editable plain text.
> 
> As to your original question ...
> 
> If you're comfortable editing an HTML file (doesn't sound like it to me 
> at this point):
> 
> 1. copy bookmarks.html somewhere on your hard drive
> 2. open the copy in Notepad or Wordpad or some text editor
> 3. delete all the bookmarks you don't want to transfer
> 4. save the file and put it on a disk
> 
> If you're NOT interested in diving into the HTML file:
> 
> 1. copy bookmarks.html somewhere on your hard drive
> 2. open the file in Nvu or another WYSIWYG HTML editor
> 3. delete all the bookmarks you don't want to transfer
> 4. save the file and put it on a disk
> 
> On the destination system, rename the bookmarks.html file to 
> bookmarks.html.bak.  Copy the truncated bookmarks.html file to the 
> Firefox profile.  Open Firefox.
> 
> When you're done, delete the bookmarks.html file and rename the original.
> 
> By the way, if you want to not mess with the destination system's 
> bookmarks.html file, simply open the truncated one from the diskette in 
> Firefox (or IE, or Mozilla, or any browser).  It will appear in the 
> browser with all the folder hierarchy intact and all the links clickable.
> 
> Caveat:  bookmarks.html is a special format file.  Trying to do much 
> other than deleting links in a WYSIWYG editor will produce unexpected 
> (read: /bad/) results.
> 

Thanks, Ed, I guess I need to download NVU and see what it looks like. 
And opening the edited bookmark file on the taget system sounds like the 
way to go.
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WayneC
3/14/2005 6:51:09 PM
DC wrote:
> WayneC wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> 
>>I have no clue what NVU is. I Googled a few pages that talk about an NVU 
>>project involving Mozilla, but nothing that says what it is or what it does.
> 
> 
> 
> I just Googled for "NVU".  The *first* hit is the home page
> (http://www.nvu.com).  From this home page, I quote from the *first*
> paragraph:
> 
> <q>
> Finally!  A complete Web Authoring System for Linux Desktop users as
> well as Microsoft Windows and Macintosh users to rival programs like
> FrontPage and Dreamweaver.
> 
> Nvu (pronounced N-view, for a "new view") makes managing a web site a
> snap.  Now anyone can create web pages and manage a website with no
> technical expertise or knowledge of HTML.
> </q>
> 
> Time for a trip to the optometrist, Wayne?
> 
Maybe... in fact, I got a notice from him a few weeks back reminding me 
that I'm due.
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WayneC
3/14/2005 6:55:51 PM
WayneC wrote:

> Ed Mullen wrote:
> 
>> WayneC wrote:
>>
>>> WayneC wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I see now where I got the idea you could export a bookmark 
>>>> folder without exporting the whole bookmark file: MS Internet 
>>>> Explorer will do just that; apparently Firefox will not. MSIE keeps 
>>>> the bookmarks as normal file folders in your login userid 
>>>> information folder, but I haven't located.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Which gives me an idea... I can:
>>>
>>> 1. import the Firefox bookmarks to MSIE, which will append them to 
>>> it's own bookmarks
>>>
>>> 2. Use MSIE Favorites>Organize Favorites to delete the 
>>> sections/folders of the appended bookmark file that I don't want.
>>>
>>> 3. export the previously imported/edited folder to a diskette (since 
>>> MSIE allows individual folders within the bookmarks file to be exported)
>>>
>>> BUT.... I probably couldn't add/import that bookmark folder to 
>>> FireFox on another system without destroying the existing bookmarks 
>>> there.
>>>
>>> Those of you who said I could just edit the FireFox bookmarks as a 
>>> normal text file... do you mean edit the bookmarks.html file? (see my 
>>> prior post about my reluctance to edit html files)
>>
>>
>>
>> An HTML file IS a plain-text file.  It simply has markup "codes" in it 
>> that define for the browser reading the file how to display various 
>> things. But the file is plain text.  Go to any Web page and do CTRL-U 
>> in Firefox.  You'll see the plain text along with the markup codes 
>> (also just plain text).  Likewise, just open bookmarks.html in a text 
>> editor and you'll see that it is completely editable plain text.
>>
>> As to your original question ...
>>
>> If you're comfortable editing an HTML file (doesn't sound like it to 
>> me at this point):
>>
>> 1. copy bookmarks.html somewhere on your hard drive
>> 2. open the copy in Notepad or Wordpad or some text editor
>> 3. delete all the bookmarks you don't want to transfer
>> 4. save the file and put it on a disk
>>
>> If you're NOT interested in diving into the HTML file:
>>
>> 1. copy bookmarks.html somewhere on your hard drive
>> 2. open the file in Nvu or another WYSIWYG HTML editor
>> 3. delete all the bookmarks you don't want to transfer
>> 4. save the file and put it on a disk
>>
>> On the destination system, rename the bookmarks.html file to 
>> bookmarks.html.bak.  Copy the truncated bookmarks.html file to the 
>> Firefox profile.  Open Firefox.
>>
>> When you're done, delete the bookmarks.html file and rename the original.
>>
>> By the way, if you want to not mess with the destination system's 
>> bookmarks.html file, simply open the truncated one from the diskette 
>> in Firefox (or IE, or Mozilla, or any browser).  It will appear in the 
>> browser with all the folder hierarchy intact and all the links clickable.
>>
>> Caveat:  bookmarks.html is a special format file.  Trying to do much 
>> other than deleting links in a WYSIWYG editor will produce unexpected 
>> (read: /bad/) results.
>>
> 
> Thanks, Ed, I guess I need to download NVU and see what it looks like. 
> And opening the edited bookmark file on the taget system sounds like the 
> way to go.

I actually DO use a text editor to edit the bookmarks.html file(s) on my 
system.  I wouldn't want to do a lot of that, but it is pretty efficient 
for taking a known contiguous block of marks and copying them somewhere 
outside of the file.

-- 
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://edmullen.net/Mozilla/moz.html
http://edmullen.net/Mozilla/seamonk.html
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Ed
3/14/2005 9:40:38 PM
Ed Mullen wrote:
> WayneC wrote:
> 
>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>
>>> WayneC wrote:
>>>
>>>> WayneC wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I see now where I got the idea you could export a bookmark 
>>>>> folder without exporting the whole bookmark file: MS Internet 
>>>>> Explorer will do just that; apparently Firefox will not. MSIE keeps 
>>>>> the bookmarks as normal file folders in your login userid 
>>>>> information folder, but I haven't located.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Which gives me an idea... I can:
>>>>
>>>> 1. import the Firefox bookmarks to MSIE, which will append them to 
>>>> it's own bookmarks
>>>>
>>>> 2. Use MSIE Favorites>Organize Favorites to delete the 
>>>> sections/folders of the appended bookmark file that I don't want.
>>>>
>>>> 3. export the previously imported/edited folder to a diskette (since 
>>>> MSIE allows individual folders within the bookmarks file to be 
>>>> exported)
>>>>
>>>> BUT.... I probably couldn't add/import that bookmark folder to 
>>>> FireFox on another system without destroying the existing bookmarks 
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> Those of you who said I could just edit the FireFox bookmarks as a 
>>>> normal text file... do you mean edit the bookmarks.html file? (see 
>>>> my prior post about my reluctance to edit html files)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> An HTML file IS a plain-text file.  It simply has markup "codes" in 
>>> it that define for the browser reading the file how to display 
>>> various things. But the file is plain text.  Go to any Web page and 
>>> do CTRL-U in Firefox.  You'll see the plain text along with the 
>>> markup codes (also just plain text).  Likewise, just open 
>>> bookmarks.html in a text editor and you'll see that it is completely 
>>> editable plain text.
>>>
>>> As to your original question ...
>>>
>>> If you're comfortable editing an HTML file (doesn't sound like it to 
>>> me at this point):
>>>
>>> 1. copy bookmarks.html somewhere on your hard drive
>>> 2. open the copy in Notepad or Wordpad or some text editor
>>> 3. delete all the bookmarks you don't want to transfer
>>> 4. save the file and put it on a disk
>>>
>>> If you're NOT interested in diving into the HTML file:
>>>
>>> 1. copy bookmarks.html somewhere on your hard drive
>>> 2. open the file in Nvu or another WYSIWYG HTML editor
>>> 3. delete all the bookmarks you don't want to transfer
>>> 4. save the file and put it on a disk
>>>
>>> On the destination system, rename the bookmarks.html file to 
>>> bookmarks.html.bak.  Copy the truncated bookmarks.html file to the 
>>> Firefox profile.  Open Firefox.
>>>
>>> When you're done, delete the bookmarks.html file and rename the 
>>> original.
>>>
>>> By the way, if you want to not mess with the destination system's 
>>> bookmarks.html file, simply open the truncated one from the diskette 
>>> in Firefox (or IE, or Mozilla, or any browser).  It will appear in 
>>> the browser with all the folder hierarchy intact and all the links 
>>> clickable.
>>>
>>> Caveat:  bookmarks.html is a special format file.  Trying to do much 
>>> other than deleting links in a WYSIWYG editor will produce unexpected 
>>> (read: /bad/) results.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, Ed, I guess I need to download NVU and see what it looks like. 
>> And opening the edited bookmark file on the taget system sounds like 
>> the way to go.
> 
> 
> I actually DO use a text editor to edit the bookmarks.html file(s) on my 
> system.  I wouldn't want to do a lot of that, but it is pretty efficient 
> for taking a known contiguous block of marks and copying them somewhere 
> outside of the file.
> 

I tried exporting and using NVU to edit the exported bookmark file and 
it was pretty straightforward, yielding an edited file that, as you 
said, brought up Firefox when I clicked on it, showing me the url links 
and allowing me to click on them to go to the webpage... not as easy as 
using MS Internet Explorer to export/import, but it worked fine.

Haven't had a chance to look at NVU very closely, but I was surprised to 
find that only the boomark file's headings (folders) and the url links 
showed up on the editor, it wasn't showing me the markup stuff (or the 
actual url addresses for the links) at all.
In my case I was only deleting stuff, so that made things simple enough.

Thanks to all,
Wayne
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WayneC
3/15/2005 12:24:15 AM
WayneC wrote:
> DC wrote:
>> WayneC wrote:

>> [...]


>>>I have no clue what NVU is. I Googled a few pages that talk about an NVU 
>>>project involving Mozilla, but nothing that says what it is or what it does.



>> I just Googled for "NVU".  The *first* hit is the home page
>> (http://www.nvu.com).  From this home page, I quote from the *first*
>> paragraph:

>> <q>
>> Finally!  A complete Web Authoring System for Linux Desktop users as
>> well as Microsoft Windows and Macintosh users to rival programs like
>> FrontPage and Dreamweaver.

>> Nvu (pronounced N-view, for a "new view") makes managing a web site a
>> snap.  Now anyone can create web pages and manage a website with no
>> technical expertise or knowledge of HTML.
>> </q>

>> Time for a trip to the optometrist, Wayne?

> Maybe... in fact, I got a notice from him a few weeks back reminding me 
> that I'm due.

}BO)

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