Filters going haywire

In the past six months or so I have started writing filters to recognize 
my correspondents, put tags with their names on their messages, and then 
put their messages into folders for each of them.

It's been working just fine ... until yesterday.

Starting yesterday, suddenly tags are attached, and messages are sorted 
into folders, for people who do not show up anywhere in the message ... 
and tags are *not* attached, and messages are *not* sorted into folders, 
for people who are the actual correspondents!

There are about 8 or 10 names/tags/folders that seem to want to attach 
themselves to every incoming message.  I have examined their filters, 
and I can't see anything wrong with them.  They all have the same form:

	Apply filter when
		Manually Run
		Getting New Mail
		Archiving
		After Sending
	Match any of the following
		Subject contains <person's name>
		From contains <person's name>
		From contains <person's e-mail>
		To contains <person's name>
		To contains <person's e-mail>
	Perform these actions
		Tag message <person's name tag>
		Move message to <person's folder>

I have also examined the filters of all the people whose tags are *not* 
getting attached and whose messages are *not* being put into their 
folders.  They also all have the above form.

And all of them have the correct names and e-mails.

I have done View > Message Source on all affected e-mails, just to make 
sure that there is nothing *anywhere* in the message to trigger this 
weird behavior.

It's not only irritating, it's time-consuming.  Bad enough that I have 
to remove the incorrect tags -- I can do that with Remove All Tags, 
after all.  But I also have to go into the 8 or 10 incorrect folders and 
manually move the messages from there to where they're supposed to be.

Disclaimer:  By now, I have a *huge* number of such filters.  Is it 
possible that I have overloaded TB's ability to process filters and/or 
tags and/or folders?  I would hope that it can scale up without 
practical limit.

Also, I'm using TB on a gmail IMAP account (but *in* TB, not in gmail's 
browser interface).  Could the problem somehow be due to gmail or the 
gmail/TB interaction?
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Dudley
7/21/2018 11:46:10 PM
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I have not parsed all your systems, but have a look at 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1312172 Changing between 
"match all of" and "match any of" fails for rules that are not visible. 
Then filter might fail - which was fixed some time ago.


On 7/21/2018 7:46 PM, Dudley Brooks wrote:
> In the past six months or so I have started writing filters to recognize 
> my correspondents, put tags with their names on their messages, and then 
> put their messages into folders for each of them.
> 
> It's been working just fine ... until yesterday.
> 
> Starting yesterday, suddenly tags are attached, and messages are sorted 
> into folders, for people who do not show up anywhere in the message ... 
> and tags are *not* attached, and messages are *not* sorted into folders, 
> for people who are the actual correspondents!
> 
> There are about 8 or 10 names/tags/folders that seem to want to attach 
> themselves to every incoming message.  I have examined their filters, 
> and I can't see anything wrong with them.  They all have the same form:
> 
>      Apply filter when
>          Manually Run
>          Getting New Mail
>          Archiving
>          After Sending
>      Match any of the following
>          Subject contains <person's name>
>          From contains <person's name>
>          From contains <person's e-mail>
>          To contains <person's name>
>          To contains <person's e-mail>
>      Perform these actions
>          Tag message <person's name tag>
>          Move message to <person's folder>
> 
> I have also examined the filters of all the people whose tags are *not* 
> getting attached and whose messages are *not* being put into their 
> folders.  They also all have the above form.
> 
> And all of them have the correct names and e-mails.
> 
> I have done View > Message Source on all affected e-mails, just to make 
> sure that there is nothing *anywhere* in the message to trigger this 
> weird behavior.
> 
> It's not only irritating, it's time-consuming.  Bad enough that I have 
> to remove the incorrect tags -- I can do that with Remove All Tags, 
> after all.  But I also have to go into the 8 or 10 incorrect folders and 
> manually move the messages from there to where they're supposed to be.
> 
> Disclaimer:  By now, I have a *huge* number of such filters.  Is it 
> possible that I have overloaded TB's ability to process filters and/or 
> tags and/or folders?  I would hope that it can scale up without 
> practical limit.
> 
> Also, I'm using TB on a gmail IMAP account (but *in* TB, not in gmail's 
> browser interface).  Could the problem somehow be due to gmail or the 
> gmail/TB interaction?

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Wayne
7/22/2018 1:02:47 AM
A very interesting bug!  Thanks for pointing it out.

That bug has now been solved ... and it's not quite the same as mine 
anyway.  Mine was not so much (or not only) about the filters that 
didn't work when they were supposed to, but about the ones which *did* 
work when they were *not* supposed to!

Also, I chose "Match any of the following" *before* putting in the 
conditions.  And not all of of mine were too long to be seen 
simultaneously in the window.  (Was that the default-length window, or 
the maximally extended window, I wonder.)  In fact, despite what I said 
about all my filters having the same form, one of them had only the one line

	Subject contains <subject>

And that was the one which *most frequently* attached itself where it 
wasn't supposed to be!

But it's all academic and irrelevant now, because today everything 
started working properly again!  Irrelevant ... but still mystifying!

Since TB hasn't changed since yesterday (I *think* -- 52.9.1 today; 
don't know what it was yesterday) and since who knows whether gmail has 
changed, I still wonder whether it had anything to do with the 
TB<->gmail interface.  But I have no idea whether that's even possible. 
And, again, it's now irrelevant.

On 7/21/18 6:02 PM, Wayne wrote:

> I have not parsed all your systems, but have a look at 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1312172 Changing between 
> "match all of" and "match any of" fails for rules that are not visible. 
> Then filter might fail - which was fixed some time ago.
> 
> On 7/21/2018 7:46 PM, Dudley Brooks wrote:
>> In the past six months or so I have started writing filters to 
>> recognize my correspondents, put tags with their names on their 
>> messages, and then put their messages into folders for each of them.
>>
>> It's been working just fine ... until yesterday.
>>
>> Starting yesterday, suddenly tags are attached, and messages are 
>> sorted into folders, for people who do not show up anywhere in the 
>> message ... and tags are *not* attached, and messages are *not* sorted 
>> into folders, for people who are the actual correspondents!
>>
>> There are about 8 or 10 names/tags/folders that seem to want to attach 
>> themselves to every incoming message.  I have examined their filters, 
>> and I can't see anything wrong with them.  They all have the same form:
>>
>>      Apply filter when
>>          Manually Run
>>          Getting New Mail
>>          Archiving
>>          After Sending
>>      Match any of the following
>>          Subject contains <person's name>
>>          From contains <person's name>
>>          From contains <person's e-mail>
>>          To contains <person's name>
>>          To contains <person's e-mail>
>>      Perform these actions
>>          Tag message <person's name tag>
>>          Move message to <person's folder>
>>
>> I have also examined the filters of all the people whose tags are 
>> *not* getting attached and whose messages are *not* being put into 
>> their folders.  They also all have the above form.
>>
>> And all of them have the correct names and e-mails.
>>
>> I have done View > Message Source on all affected e-mails, just to 
>> make sure that there is nothing *anywhere* in the message to trigger 
>> this weird behavior.
>>
>> It's not only irritating, it's time-consuming.  Bad enough that I have 
>> to remove the incorrect tags -- I can do that with Remove All Tags, 
>> after all.  But I also have to go into the 8 or 10 incorrect folders 
>> and manually move the messages from there to where they're supposed to 
>> be.
>>
>> Disclaimer:  By now, I have a *huge* number of such filters.  Is it 
>> possible that I have overloaded TB's ability to process filters and/or 
>> tags and/or folders?  I would hope that it can scale up without 
>> practical limit.
>>
>> Also, I'm using TB on a gmail IMAP account (but *in* TB, not in 
>> gmail's browser interface).  Could the problem somehow be due to gmail 
>> or the gmail/TB interaction?
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Dudley
7/23/2018 2:08:06 AM
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