Windows 2000 system with firefox 2 working just fine. After running update, it will not start in either normal or safe mode. Task manager says there is a 7.5mb firefox.exe running but nothing progresses. Task manager cannot shut down the instance of firefox.exe. Upon rebooting, firefox.exe does not show up in the task manager until firefox is invoked. It then goes to the same situation as in the first paragraph. I have looked at the issue of a trojan and nothing shows up looking at the registry as suggested in the firefox website. Firefox will not start up after a reboot. The only solution is to do a reboot and then uninstall firefox through the control panel and then reinstall firefox 2.0 which works just fine. For 2.0.0.1 safe mode does not work. Jave and javascript are turned off. The only extension is flashblock but that should be off in safe mode. what is broken in 2.0.0.1?
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none wrote: > Windows 2000 system with firefox 2 working just fine. After running > update, it will not start in either normal or safe mode. Task > manager says there is a 7.5mb firefox.exe running but nothing > progresses. Task manager cannot shut down the instance of > firefox.exe. > > Upon rebooting, firefox.exe does not show up in the task manager > until firefox is invoked. It then goes to the same situation as in > the first paragraph. I have looked at the issue of a trojan and > nothing shows up looking at the registry as suggested in the firefox > website. Firefox will not start up after a reboot. > > > The only solution is to do a reboot and then uninstall firefox > through the control panel and then reinstall firefox 2.0 which works > just fine. > > For 2.0.0.1 safe mode does not work. Jave and javascript are turned > off. The only extension is flashblock but that should be off in safe > mode. > > what is broken in 2.0.0.1? > before installing FF-2.0.0.1 , backup your profile uninstall previous ver. using comtrol panel remove ff program folder if you have any Registry cleaner tool , run it to clear unwanted reg entry of previous ver. Install new version of FF Open profile manager ( using "firefox.exe" -P command ) create a new profile start FF
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none wrote: > Windows 2000 system with firefox 2 working just fine. > After running update, it will not start in either normal or > safe mode. Task manager says there is a 7.5mb firefox.exe > running but nothing progresses. Task manager cannot shut down > the instance of firefox.exe. > > Upon rebooting, firefox.exe does not show up in the task manager until > firefox is invoked. It then goes to the same situation as in the > first paragraph. I have looked at the issue of a trojan and nothing > shows up looking at the registry as suggested in the firefox website. > Firefox will not start up after a reboot. > > > The only solution is to do a reboot and then uninstall firefox through > the control panel and then reinstall firefox 2.0 which works just fine. > > For 2.0.0.1 safe mode does not work. Jave and javascript are turned > off. The only extension is flashblock but that should be off in safe > mode. > > what is broken in 2.0.0.1? > I've already discussed this here: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/tree/browse_frm/thread/f81d6ff781214b3c/84713db302925c1d?rnum=1&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fmozilla.support.firefox%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Ff81d6ff781214b3c%2F84713db302925c1d%3Ftvc%3D1%26#doc_84713db302925c1d and I didn't get much help. -- Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm http://www.bcdb.com/cartoon/46347-Peter_Potamus_Show.html http://www.toonarific.com/show.php?s_search=Potamus&Button_Update=Search&show_id=2778 Please do not email me for help. Reply to the newsgroup only. Thanks
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none wrote: > Windows 2000 system with firefox 2 working just fine. > After running update, it will not start in either normal or > safe mode. Task manager says there is a 7.5mb firefox.exe > running but nothing progresses. Task manager cannot shut down > the instance of firefox.exe. > > Upon rebooting, firefox.exe does not show up in the task manager until > firefox is invoked. It then goes to the same situation as in the > first paragraph. I have looked at the issue of a trojan and nothing > shows up looking at the registry as suggested in the firefox website. > Firefox will not start up after a reboot. > > > The only solution is to do a reboot and then uninstall firefox through > the control panel and then reinstall firefox 2.0 which works just fine. > > For 2.0.0.1 safe mode does not work. Jave and javascript are turned > off. The only extension is flashblock but that should be off in safe > mode. > > what is broken in 2.0.0.1? > Firewall. Delete any reference to the application 'firefox.exe', and reapprove access when the firewall asks. -- Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net
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Ron Hunter wrote: > none wrote: > >> Windows 2000 system with firefox 2 working just fine. >> After running update, it will not start in either normal or >> safe mode. Task manager says there is a 7.5mb firefox.exe >> running but nothing progresses. Task manager cannot shut down >> the instance of firefox.exe. >> >> Upon rebooting, firefox.exe does not show up in the task manager until >> firefox is invoked. It then goes to the same situation as in the >> first paragraph. I have looked at the issue of a trojan and nothing >> shows up looking at the registry as suggested in the firefox website. >> Firefox will not start up after a reboot. >> >> >> The only solution is to do a reboot and then uninstall firefox through >> the control panel and then reinstall firefox 2.0 which works just fine. >> >> For 2.0.0.1 safe mode does not work. Jave and javascript are turned >> off. The only extension is flashblock but that should be off in safe >> mode. >> >> what is broken in 2.0.0.1? >> > Firewall. > Delete any reference to the application 'firefox.exe', and reapprove > access when the firewall asks. > > It never gets that far. It does not show up at all. A firewall issue would give a connection not found error.
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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: > none wrote: > >> Windows 2000 system with firefox 2 working just fine. >> After running update, it will not start in either normal or >> safe mode. Task manager says there is a 7.5mb firefox.exe >> running but nothing progresses. Task manager cannot shut down >> the instance of firefox.exe. >> >> Upon rebooting, firefox.exe does not show up in the task manager until >> firefox is invoked. It then goes to the same situation as in the >> first paragraph. I have looked at the issue of a trojan and nothing >> shows up looking at the registry as suggested in the firefox website. >> Firefox will not start up after a reboot. >> >> >> The only solution is to do a reboot and then uninstall firefox through >> the control panel and then reinstall firefox 2.0 which works just fine. >> >> For 2.0.0.1 safe mode does not work. Jave and javascript are turned >> off. The only extension is flashblock but that should be off in safe >> mode. >> >> what is broken in 2.0.0.1? >> > I've already discussed this here: > http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/tree/browse_frm/thread/f81d6ff781214b3c/84713db302925c1d?rnum=1&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fmozilla.support.firefox%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Ff81d6ff781214b3c%2F84713db302925c1d%3Ftvc%3D1%26#doc_84713db302925c1d > and I didn't get much help. > I had read that thread before posting. Something is broken in 2.0.0.1 and it would be nice if it got fixed. It is this sort of problem that drives people back to Microsoft. It is also the kind of problem that makes it impossible to do security updates.
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none wrote: > Ron Hunter wrote: >> none wrote: >> >>> Windows 2000 system with firefox 2 working just fine. >>> After running update, it will not start in either normal or >>> safe mode. Task manager says there is a 7.5mb firefox.exe >>> running but nothing progresses. Task manager cannot shut down >>> the instance of firefox.exe. >>> >>> Upon rebooting, firefox.exe does not show up in the task manager until >>> firefox is invoked. It then goes to the same situation as in the >>> first paragraph. I have looked at the issue of a trojan and nothing >>> shows up looking at the registry as suggested in the firefox website. >>> Firefox will not start up after a reboot. >>> >>> >>> The only solution is to do a reboot and then uninstall firefox through >>> the control panel and then reinstall firefox 2.0 which works just fine. >>> >>> For 2.0.0.1 safe mode does not work. Jave and javascript are turned >>> off. The only extension is flashblock but that should be off in safe >>> mode. >>> >>> what is broken in 2.0.0.1? >>> >> Firewall. >> Delete any reference to the application 'firefox.exe', and reapprove >> access when the firewall asks. >> >> > It never gets that far. It does not show up at all. > A firewall issue would give a connection not found error. Have you tried it to make sure? Firefox talks to itself on the loopback address. A desktop firewall program might block that causing Firefox to freeze. This is mere speculation on my part. It's worth bearing in mind that millions of us aren't having these problems. Phil
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On 2007-01-11 11:15 (-0700 UTC), none wrote: <snip /> > Something is broken in 2.0.0.1 > and it would be nice if it got fixed. It is this sort of problem that > drives people back to Microsoft. It is also the kind of problem that > makes it impossible to do security updates. I've been using m.o products pretty much exclusively for five years now, and, time permitting, use trunk nightlies at home. Under Win 95/98 SE/2K/XP-P, FC 3/5, Mandrake 10, and SUSE 9.3/10.0/10.1/10.2 on, um, around 20 machines over those five years, I've experienced problems like this (/i.e./, the UI not launching) during two different (but time-limited) windows. The first was in the months after Moz 1.0 was released, when there were issues with compreg.dat; the second was just recently, when I found that I had to delete a persistent parent.lock on a couple occasions. While I might play around on the bleeding edge on my home machine, I've never done so on 'mission critical' office machines. With one compreg.dat-related exception, all of the issues I've encountered have been at home. Granted, this has been my experience and is not necessarily generalisable. But I'm not sure there's enough evidence to make the general claim that 'Something is broken in 2.0.0.1'. If something were significantly broken, would not the majority of users (under a given OS) be reporting the same issue? Anyway, you might want to have a look through <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=Firefox&content=update+2.0.0.1>; I had a quick glance, and couldn't find anything that seemed /� propos/. . . . /b. -- 'There is caution, and there is irrational paranoia.' -- Ron Hunter 'And, yes, I AM a bit paranoid. After 25 years online, one gets that way, if one survives.' -- Ron Hunter
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none wrote: > Phil Randal wrote: >> none wrote: >> >>> Ron Hunter wrote: >>> >>>> none wrote: >>>> >>>>> Windows 2000 system with firefox 2 working just fine. >>>>> After running update, it will not start in either normal or >>>>> safe mode. Task manager says there is a 7.5mb firefox.exe >>>>> running but nothing progresses. Task manager cannot shut down >>>>> the instance of firefox.exe. >>>>> >>>>> Upon rebooting, firefox.exe does not show up in the task manager until >>>>> firefox is invoked. It then goes to the same situation as in the >>>>> first paragraph. I have looked at the issue of a trojan and nothing >>>>> shows up looking at the registry as suggested in the firefox website. >>>>> Firefox will not start up after a reboot. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The only solution is to do a reboot and then uninstall firefox through >>>>> the control panel and then reinstall firefox 2.0 which works just >>>>> fine. >>>>> >>>>> For 2.0.0.1 safe mode does not work. Jave and javascript are turned >>>>> off. The only extension is flashblock but that should be off in safe >>>>> mode. >>>>> >>>>> what is broken in 2.0.0.1? >>>>> >>>> Firewall. >>>> Delete any reference to the application 'firefox.exe', and reapprove >>>> access when the firewall asks. >>>> >>>> >>> It never gets that far. It does not show up at all. >>> A firewall issue would give a connection not found error. >> >> >> Have you tried it to make sure? Firefox talks to itself on the >> loopback address. A desktop firewall program might block that causing >> Firefox to freeze. This is mere speculation on my part. >> >> It's worth bearing in mind that millions of us aren't having these >> problems. >> >> Phil > The firewall (Zonealarm) sees any new program and asks if access or > server rights are being requested. It also turns out that it does > not care if it can talk to itself since I also deny the request for > server permission on all versions of Firefox and Mozilla. But, with > newly installed 2.0.0.1 it does not ask. With newly installed 2.0 > it does ask each time. This means it does not get far enough in the > loading process to be ready for network access. With the memory leaks > in firefox it is hard to tell how large the program should be but > whatever state 2.0.0.1 gets to, it is using up only 7.5 mb of memory. > > It is all the more frustrating that the upgrade works for some people. > 2.0 worked. 2.0.0.1 does not. Something changed which broke the system > for some of us. I have been a Mozilla and now Firefox evangelist and > that makes it particularly annoying that it no longer works. It is also > annoying that I have been able to find a list of what changed from > 2.0 to 2.0.0.1. That might help find what was changed that should not > have been. > > For those of you who might have 2.0.0.1 working. > > 1. Did you do an upgrade or an install? > > 2. Are some of the memory leak issues fixed? Version 1.5 would swell > up until it hit about 300mb and then crash. Version 2.0 seems to get > in the vicinity of 300mb but does not crash as often. > > As a long-time ZoneAlarm user all I can offer here is this. Launch the ZA console. Find anything that relates to FF. "Remove" that listing in ZA. Reboot. Try again. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net http://mozilla.edmullen.net http://abington.edmullen.net The obituaries in the newspaper prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that people die in alphabetical order.
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Phil Randal wrote: > none wrote: > >> Ron Hunter wrote: >> >>> none wrote: >>> >>>> Windows 2000 system with firefox 2 working just fine. >>>> After running update, it will not start in either normal or >>>> safe mode. Task manager says there is a 7.5mb firefox.exe >>>> running but nothing progresses. Task manager cannot shut down >>>> the instance of firefox.exe. >>>> >>>> Upon rebooting, firefox.exe does not show up in the task manager until >>>> firefox is invoked. It then goes to the same situation as in the >>>> first paragraph. I have looked at the issue of a trojan and nothing >>>> shows up looking at the registry as suggested in the firefox website. >>>> Firefox will not start up after a reboot. >>>> >>>> >>>> The only solution is to do a reboot and then uninstall firefox through >>>> the control panel and then reinstall firefox 2.0 which works just fine. >>>> >>>> For 2.0.0.1 safe mode does not work. Jave and javascript are turned >>>> off. The only extension is flashblock but that should be off in safe >>>> mode. >>>> >>>> what is broken in 2.0.0.1? >>>> >>> Firewall. >>> Delete any reference to the application 'firefox.exe', and reapprove >>> access when the firewall asks. >>> >>> >> It never gets that far. It does not show up at all. >> A firewall issue would give a connection not found error. > > > Have you tried it to make sure? Firefox talks to itself on the loopback > address. A desktop firewall program might block that causing Firefox to > freeze. This is mere speculation on my part. > > It's worth bearing in mind that millions of us aren't having these > problems. > > Phil The firewall (Zonealarm) sees any new program and asks if access or server rights are being requested. It also turns out that it does not care if it can talk to itself since I also deny the request for server permission on all versions of Firefox and Mozilla. But, with newly installed 2.0.0.1 it does not ask. With newly installed 2.0 it does ask each time. This means it does not get far enough in the loading process to be ready for network access. With the memory leaks in firefox it is hard to tell how large the program should be but whatever state 2.0.0.1 gets to, it is using up only 7.5 mb of memory. It is all the more frustrating that the upgrade works for some people. 2.0 worked. 2.0.0.1 does not. Something changed which broke the system for some of us. I have been a Mozilla and now Firefox evangelist and that makes it particularly annoying that it no longer works. It is also annoying that I have been able to find a list of what changed from 2.0 to 2.0.0.1. That might help find what was changed that should not have been. For those of you who might have 2.0.0.1 working. 1. Did you do an upgrade or an install? 2. Are some of the memory leak issues fixed? Version 1.5 would swell up until it hit about 300mb and then crash. Version 2.0 seems to get in the vicinity of 300mb but does not crash as often.
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_none_ spoke thusly on 10/01/2007 11:40 PM: > Windows 2000 system with firefox 2 working just fine. > After running update, it will not start in either normal or > safe mode. Task manager says there is a 7.5mb firefox.exe > running but nothing progresses. Task manager cannot shut down > the instance of firefox.exe. > > Upon rebooting, firefox.exe does not show up in the task manager until > firefox is invoked. It then goes to the same situation as in the > first paragraph. I have looked at the issue of a trojan and nothing > shows up looking at the registry as suggested in the firefox website. > Firefox will not start up after a reboot. > > > The only solution is to do a reboot and then uninstall firefox through > the control panel and then reinstall firefox 2.0 which works just fine. > > For 2.0.0.1 safe mode does not work. Jave and javascript are turned > off. The only extension is flashblock but that should be off in safe > mode. > > what is broken in 2.0.0.1? I wonder if it finished updating. Try this: Go to the directory: C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\updates\0 Delete its contents. -- Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca> List-owner: support-firefox, support-thunderbird mozilla.test.multimedia moderator (Please do not email me tech support questions)
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none wrote: > Phil Randal wrote: >> none wrote: >> >>> Ron Hunter wrote: >>> >>>> none wrote: >>>> >>>>> Windows 2000 system with firefox 2 working just fine. >>>>> After running update, it will not start in either normal or >>>>> safe mode. Task manager says there is a 7.5mb firefox.exe >>>>> running but nothing progresses. Task manager cannot shut down >>>>> the instance of firefox.exe. >>>>> >>>>> Upon rebooting, firefox.exe does not show up in the task manager until >>>>> firefox is invoked. It then goes to the same situation as in the >>>>> first paragraph. I have looked at the issue of a trojan and nothing >>>>> shows up looking at the registry as suggested in the firefox website. >>>>> Firefox will not start up after a reboot. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The only solution is to do a reboot and then uninstall firefox through >>>>> the control panel and then reinstall firefox 2.0 which works just fine. >>>>> >>>>> For 2.0.0.1 safe mode does not work. Jave and javascript are turned >>>>> off. The only extension is flashblock but that should be off in safe >>>>> mode. >>>>> >>>>> what is broken in 2.0.0.1? >>>>> >>>> Firewall. >>>> Delete any reference to the application 'firefox.exe', and reapprove >>>> access when the firewall asks. >>>> >>>> >>> It never gets that far. It does not show up at all. >>> A firewall issue would give a connection not found error. >> >> Have you tried it to make sure? Firefox talks to itself on the loopback >> address. A desktop firewall program might block that causing Firefox to >> freeze. This is mere speculation on my part. >> >> It's worth bearing in mind that millions of us aren't having these >> problems. >> >> Phil > The firewall (Zonealarm) sees any new program and asks if access or > server rights are being requested. It also turns out that it does > not care if it can talk to itself since I also deny the request for > server permission on all versions of Firefox and Mozilla. But, with > newly installed 2.0.0.1 it does not ask. With newly installed 2.0 > it does ask each time. This means it does not get far enough in the > loading process to be ready for network access. With the memory leaks > in firefox it is hard to tell how large the program should be but > whatever state 2.0.0.1 gets to, it is using up only 7.5 mb of memory. > > It is all the more frustrating that the upgrade works for some people. > 2.0 worked. 2.0.0.1 does not. Something changed which broke the system > for some of us. I have been a Mozilla and now Firefox evangelist and > that makes it particularly annoying that it no longer works. It is also > annoying that I have been able to find a list of what changed from > 2.0 to 2.0.0.1. That might help find what was changed that should not > have been. > > For those of you who might have 2.0.0.1 working. > > 1. Did you do an upgrade or an install? > > 2. Are some of the memory leak issues fixed? Version 1.5 would swell > up until it hit about 300mb and then crash. Version 2.0 seems to get > in the vicinity of 300mb but does not crash as often. Preface: First System: WinXP Home SP2, FF 2.0.0.1, 512MB RAM, 2.4GHz Celeron Second System: WinXP Home SP2, FF 2.0.0.1, 512MB RAM, 3.0GHz P4, Hyper threading enabled For both systems: 1. Upgrade from 2.0 to 2.0.0.1 2. Don't know, I don't seem to have a problem, so I don't generally bother checking memory usage. I have not had any problems with it crashing, at all. But then, I haven't had problems with it crashing on prior versions, either. -- Alex K.
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On 1/11/2007 12:14 PM Pacific Time, Phil Randal wrote thusly: > none wrote: >> Ron Hunter wrote: >>> none wrote: >>> >>>> Windows 2000 system with Firefox 2 working just fine. >>>> After running update, it will not start in either normal or >>>> safe mode. Task manager says there is a 7.5mb firefox.exe >>>> running but nothing progresses. Task manager cannot shut down >>>> the instance of firefox.exe. >>>> >>>> Upon rebooting, firefox.exe does not show up in the task manager until >>>> firefox is invoked. It then goes to the same situation as in the >>>> first paragraph. I have looked at the issue of a trojan and nothing >>>> shows up looking at the registry as suggested in the firefox website. >>>> Firefox will not start up after a reboot. >>>> >>>> >>>> The only solution is to do a reboot and then uninstall firefox through >>>> the control panel and then reinstall firefox 2.0 which works just fine. >>>> >>>> For 2.0.0.1 safe mode does not work. Jave and javascript are turned >>>> off. The only extension is flashblock but that should be off in safe >>>> mode. >>>> >>>> what is broken in 2.0.0.1? >>>> >>> Firewall. >>> Delete any reference to the application 'firefox.exe', and reapprove >>> access when the firewall asks. >>> >>> >> It never gets that far. It does not show up at all. >> A firewall issue would give a connection not found error. > > Have you tried it to make sure? Firefox talks to itself on the loopback > address. A desktop firewall program might block that causing Firefox to > freeze. This is mere speculation on my part. > > It's worth bearing in mind that millions of us aren't having these > problems. > > Phil I had a similar problem last weekend with Firefox 1.5.0.9. All of a sudden, I lost internet connection (cable and dial-up on 2 different services). Firefox would not open normally, yet I found multiple copies of firefox.exe in Task Manager; same thing happened with IE. Also, could not access the internet via any browser or e-mail client, but could ping and FTP just fine. After a couple days of sporadic issues, I called my ISP and they had me disable my firewall temporarily. Immediately, I had internet service back and browsers would open again. No problem since then either. They said they see customers whose firewall blocks access, mostly with Norton or McAfee, not ZoneAlarm. Barbara -- Using WindowsXP SP2 Home Edition (all patches updated), Zone Alarm Pro 6.5.737.000, PCcillin 2006, Firefox 1.5.0.9, TB 1.5.0.9
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Barbara wrote: > On 1/11/2007 12:14 PM Pacific Time, Phil Randal wrote thusly: >> none wrote: >>> Ron Hunter wrote: >>>> none wrote: >>>> >>>>> Windows 2000 system with Firefox 2 working just fine. >>>>> After running update, it will not start in either normal or >>>>> safe mode. Task manager says there is a 7.5mb firefox.exe >>>>> running but nothing progresses. Task manager cannot shut down >>>>> the instance of firefox.exe. >>>>> >>>>> Upon rebooting, firefox.exe does not show up in the task manager until >>>>> firefox is invoked. It then goes to the same situation as in the >>>>> first paragraph. I have looked at the issue of a trojan and nothing >>>>> shows up looking at the registry as suggested in the firefox website. >>>>> Firefox will not start up after a reboot. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The only solution is to do a reboot and then uninstall firefox through >>>>> the control panel and then reinstall firefox 2.0 which works just >>>>> fine. >>>>> >>>>> For 2.0.0.1 safe mode does not work. Jave and javascript are turned >>>>> off. The only extension is flashblock but that should be off in safe >>>>> mode. >>>>> >>>>> what is broken in 2.0.0.1? >>>>> >>>> Firewall. >>>> Delete any reference to the application 'firefox.exe', and reapprove >>>> access when the firewall asks. >>>> >>>> >>> It never gets that far. It does not show up at all. >>> A firewall issue would give a connection not found error. >> >> Have you tried it to make sure? Firefox talks to itself on the >> loopback address. A desktop firewall program might block that causing >> Firefox to freeze. This is mere speculation on my part. >> >> It's worth bearing in mind that millions of us aren't having these >> problems. >> >> Phil > > I had a similar problem last weekend with Firefox 1.5.0.9. All of a > sudden, I lost internet connection (cable and dial-up on 2 different > services). Firefox would not open normally, yet I found multiple copies > of firefox.exe in Task Manager; same thing happened with IE. Also, > could not access the internet via any browser or e-mail client, but > could ping and FTP just fine. > After a couple days of sporadic issues, I called my ISP and they had > me disable my firewall temporarily. Immediately, I had internet service > back and browsers would open again. No problem since then either. They > said they see customers whose firewall blocks access, mostly with Norton > or McAfee, not ZoneAlarm. > > Barbara It appears that FF uses some ports to communicate between FF functions, and some firewalls block these ports, preventing FF from even getting to the point of displaying the GUI. I solved this problem by making FF a 'trusted application' in my firewall program, and have had no problem since. It also appears from numerous message here that NIS is one of these firewalls, and that it also is confused by the update process FF uses. -- Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net
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Chris Ilias wrote: > I wonder if it finished updating. Try this: > Go to the directory: > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\updates\0 > Delete its contents. I tried that with my problem and it didn't work: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/tree/browse_frm/thread/f81d6ff781214b3c/84713db302925c1d?rnum=1&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fmozilla.support.firefox%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Ff81d6ff781214b3c%2F84713db302925c1d%3Ftvc%3D1%26#doc_84713db302925c1d -- Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm http://www.bcdb.com/cartoon/46347-Peter_Potamus_Show.html http://www.toonarific.com/show.php?s_search=Potamus&Button_Update=Search&show_id=2778 Please do not email me for help. Reply to the newsgroup only. Thanks
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