n.m.o search error?

gang....

Was using Thunderbird to do a search on the n.p.m.os2 group, and I 
received an error:

NNTP error:  xpat not supported

I don't remember seeing this before the new server groups showed up...

Could someone confirm this error?

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Larry Belan wrote:
> gang....
> 
> Was using Thunderbird to do a search on the n.p.m.os2 group, and I 
> received an error:
> 
> NNTP error:  xpat not supported
> 
> I don't remember seeing this before the new server groups showed up...
> 
> Could someone confirm this error?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Larry

The new server is hosted by Giganews.  Giganews does not support xpat 
searches. This error would be normal.

Lee

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Leonidas
1/15/2006 4:27:10 AM
Leonidas Jones wrote:

> Larry Belan wrote:
> 
>> gang....
>>
>> Was using Thunderbird to do a search on the n.p.m.os2 group, and I 
>> received an error:
>>
>> NNTP error:  xpat not supported
>>
>> I don't remember seeing this before the new server groups showed up...
>>
>> Could someone confirm this error?
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Larry
> 
> 
> The new server is hosted by Giganews.  Giganews does not support xpat 
> searches. This error would be normal.
> 
> Lee
> 


Mmmm.  I'm not using Giganews.  I'm connecting TBird to 
"news.mozilla.org".   That should be the mozilla NNTP server, NOT 
Giganews, correct?

--

Larry

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Larry
1/16/2006 5:46:26 PM
Larry Belan wrote:
> Leonidas Jones wrote:
> 
>> Larry Belan wrote:
>>

/snip/
> 
> Mmmm.  I'm not using Giganews.  I'm connecting TBird to 
> "news.mozilla.org".   That should be the mozilla NNTP server, NOT 
> Giganews, correct?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Larry
> 

news.mozilla.org is an alias pointing to a Giganews server.

By the way, check your sig delimiter, it isn't stripping. ;)

Lee

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Leonidas
1/16/2006 5:59:42 PM
On 2006-01-16, Larry Belan <larrybpsu@netscape.net> wrote:
> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>> Larry Belan wrote:
>> 
>>> gang....
>>>
>>> Was using Thunderbird to do a search on the n.p.m.os2 group, and I 
>>> received an error:
>>>
>>> NNTP error:  xpat not supported
>>>
>>> I don't remember seeing this before the new server groups showed up...
>>>
>>> Could someone confirm this error?
>>>
>> 
>> The new server is hosted by Giganews.  Giganews does not support xpat 
>> searches. This error would be normal.
>> 
>
> Mmmm.  I'm not using Giganews.  I'm connecting TBird to 
> "news.mozilla.org".   That should be the mozilla NNTP server, NOT 
> Giganews, correct?

That is the mozilla NNTP server, which is now hosted by Giganews. You're
not using Giganews's service as such, but the fact that they are hosting
the Mozilla server now means it doesn't support XPAT (apparently - I'm
just going on the previous post).

If that still doesn't make sense, it may be easier to answer just by
saying that the new Mozilla NNTP server doesn't support XPAT.

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Michael
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Michael
1/16/2006 6:32:17 PM
Michael Lefevre wrote:
> On 2006-01-16, Larry Belan <larrybpsu@netscape.net> wrote:
> 
>>Leonidas Jones wrote:
>>
>>>Larry Belan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>gang....
>>>>
>>>>Was using Thunderbird to do a search on the n.p.m.os2 group, and I 
>>>>received an error:
>>>>
>>>>NNTP error:  xpat not supported
>>>>
>>>>I don't remember seeing this before the new server groups showed up...
>>>>
>>>>Could someone confirm this error?
>>>>
>>>
>>>The new server is hosted by Giganews.  Giganews does not support xpat 
>>>searches. This error would be normal.
>>>
>>
>>Mmmm.  I'm not using Giganews.  I'm connecting TBird to 
>>"news.mozilla.org".   That should be the mozilla NNTP server, NOT 
>>Giganews, correct?
> 
> 
> That is the mozilla NNTP server, which is now hosted by Giganews. You're
> not using Giganews's service as such, but the fact that they are hosting
> the Mozilla server now means it doesn't support XPAT (apparently - I'm
> just going on the previous post).
> 
> If that still doesn't make sense, it may be easier to answer just by
> saying that the new Mozilla NNTP server doesn't support XPAT.
> 

This is progress?

A feature that I could use in the past on n.p.m groups is no longer 
available? I CAN'T search message subjects anymore.

So with the new NNTP hosting, we can't use our mozilla products the 
their fullest advantage?  Sounds like I'm visiting some Microsoft site.

Again:  This is progress?

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Larry
1/16/2006 7:42:00 PM
_Larry Belan_ spoke thusly on 14/01/2006 10:56 PM:
> gang....
> 
> Was using Thunderbird to do a search on the n.p.m.os2 group, and I 
> received an error:
> 
> NNTP error:  xpat not supported
> 
> I don't remember seeing this before the new server groups showed up...
> 
> Could someone confirm this error?

This is covered in <http://ilias.ca/newsserverinfo.html>.

<quote>
Does Giganews support XPAT searches?

No. This means that in Thunderbird, using 'Edit -> Find -> Search 
Messages' will not work. The same goes for 'Tools -> Search Messages' in 
SeaMonkey. For more info, see Bug 147884. Using the Search bar, or 
switching to offline mode before going to "Search Messages" will work.
</quote>
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Chris
1/16/2006 11:07:59 PM
On 01/16/06 14:42, Larry Belan wrote:
> This is progress?
> 
> A feature that I could use in the past on n.p.m groups is no longer 
> available? I CAN'T search message subjects anymore.
> 
> So with the new NNTP hosting, we can't use our mozilla products the 
> their fullest advantage?  Sounds like I'm visiting some Microsoft site.
> 
> Again:  This is progress?

Overall, yes. The new news.mozilla.org is faster and it has the new 
hierarchy.
-- 
Yay!
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Matt
1/16/2006 11:26:07 PM
Chris Ilias <nmo@ilias.ca> in news:dqOdnb-XXcXhulHeRVn-rA@mozilla.org:

> _Larry Belan_ spoke thusly on 14/01/2006 10:56 PM:
>> gang....
>> 
>> Was using Thunderbird to do a search on the n.p.m.os2 group, and I 
>> received an error:
>> 
>> NNTP error:  xpat not supported
>> 
>> I don't remember seeing this before the new server groups showed up...
>> 
>> Could someone confirm this error?
> 
> This is covered in <http://ilias.ca/newsserverinfo.html>.
> 
> <quote>
> Does Giganews support XPAT searches?
> 
> No. This means that in Thunderbird, using 'Edit -> Find -> Search 
> Messages' will not work. The same goes for 'Tools -> Search Messages' in 
> SeaMonkey. For more info, see Bug 147884. Using the Search bar, or 
> switching to offline mode before going to "Search Messages" will work.
> </quote>

redundant note: attempted xpat search in xnews gives msg "501 xpat not supported".

but this seems like a decent place to note that xnews needed something like stunnel, which i never got working, to access 
secnews.. netscape, while the new moz news is accessible because it's "normal"

i also see you (chris) included an xnews setup page (it's very simple, but still it's) nice to see. (thanks, since xnews is the 
*overall* best newsreader i've yet tried (on win only, so far))

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Splibbilla
1/17/2006 5:44:07 AM
On 2006-01-16, Larry Belan <larrybpsu@netscape.net> wrote:
> Michael Lefevre wrote:
>> On 2006-01-16, Larry Belan <larrybpsu@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>Leonidas Jones wrote:
>>>>Larry Belan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>gang....
>>>>>
>>>>>Was using Thunderbird to do a search on the n.p.m.os2 group, and I 
>>>>>received an error:
>>>>>
>>>>>NNTP error:  xpat not supported
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't remember seeing this before the new server groups showed up...
>>>>>
>>>>>Could someone confirm this error?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The new server is hosted by Giganews.  Giganews does not support xpat 
>>>>searches. This error would be normal.
>>>
>>>Mmmm.  I'm not using Giganews.  I'm connecting TBird to 
>>>"news.mozilla.org".   That should be the mozilla NNTP server, NOT 
>>>Giganews, correct?
>> 
>> That is the mozilla NNTP server, which is now hosted by Giganews. You're
>> not using Giganews's service as such, but the fact that they are hosting
>> the Mozilla server now means it doesn't support XPAT (apparently - I'm
>> just going on the previous post).
>> 
>> If that still doesn't make sense, it may be easier to answer just by
>> saying that the new Mozilla NNTP server doesn't support XPAT.
>
> This is progress?
>
> A feature that I could use in the past on n.p.m groups is no longer 
> available? I CAN'T search message subjects anymore.

It is progress, in as much as the groups are better organised, and the
Mozilla folks have more influence over what happens. The previous server
was hosted by AOL/Netscape and is only up and running because nobody has
got around to pulling the plug.

> So with the new NNTP hosting, we can't use our mozilla products the 
> their fullest advantage?  Sounds like I'm visiting some Microsoft site.
>
> Again:  This is progress?

Given that it's taken around 5 years for anything at all to happen, I
would say that anything happening is progress...

-- 
Michael
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Michael
1/17/2006 12:00:35 PM
Splibbilla wrote:
> Chris Ilias <nmo@ilias.ca> in news:dqOdnb-XXcXhulHeRVn-rA@mozilla.org:
> 
>> _Larry Belan_ spoke thusly on 14/01/2006 10:56 PM:
>>> gang....
>>>

/snip/

> 
> redundant note: attempted xpat search in xnews gives msg "501 xpat not supported".
> 
> but this seems like a decent place to note that xnews needed something like stunnel, which i never got working, to access 
> secnews.. netscape, while the new moz news is accessible because it's "normal"
> 
> i also see you (chris) included an xnews setup page (it's very simple, but still it's) nice to see. (thanks, since xnews is the 
> *overall* best newsreader i've yet tried (on win only, so far))
> 

I got xnews working on secnews via stunnel with no problem, using Windows.

Its funny, I remember trying to set up stunnel a few years ago, and 
having trouble doing it, but this time it was bone simple. Go figure. ;)

Lee

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Leonidas Jones, Mozilla Champion
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Leonidas
1/17/2006 3:46:45 PM
On 01/17/06 10:46, Leonidas Jones wrote:
> I got xnews working on secnews via stunnel with no problem, using Windows.
> 
> Its funny, I remember trying to set up stunnel a few years ago, and 
> having trouble doing it, but this time it was bone simple. Go figure. ;)

Well, good software's usability does improve over a few years..
-- 
Yay!
0
Matt
1/17/2006 4:15:58 PM
Matt Nordhoff wrote:
> On 01/17/06 10:46, Leonidas Jones wrote:
>> I got xnews working on secnews via stunnel with no problem, using 
>> Windows.
>>
>> Its funny, I remember trying to set up stunnel a few years ago, and 
>> having trouble doing it, but this time it was bone simple. Go figure. ;)
> 
> Well, good software's usability does improve over a few years..

Stunnel is a pretty simple thing.  While there have been new versions, I 
don't think it worked all that differently.

Lee

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Leonidas
1/17/2006 5:49:07 PM
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