GRC DNS Benchmark vs Google DNS Benchmark

I just downloaded Google's DNS Benchmark program, its available at 
http://code.google.com/p/namebench/

One feature it has that I would love to be implemented in Steve's DNSB 
is the ability to benchmark against "best regional DNS services."

As I live in Australia and to ping a computer in America results in 
around 100ms of lag. None of the American public DNS servers are 
appropriate for me. I'd love it if the DNSB could benchmark agianst 
local servers.

Google's is also a massive 4.5mb for Windows
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Hosko
1/11/2010 3:51:37 PM
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"Hosko" <hoskoau@mac.com> wrote in message 
news:hifhe9$1800$1@news.grc.com...
>I just downloaded Google's DNS Benchmark program, its available at
> http://code.google.com/p/namebench/
>
> One feature it has that I would love to be implemented in Steve's DNSB
> is the ability to benchmark against "best regional DNS services."
>
> As I live in Australia and to ping a computer in America results in
> around 100ms of lag. None of the American public DNS servers are
> appropriate for me. I'd love it if the DNSB could benchmark agianst
> local servers.
>
> Google's is also a massive 4.5mb for Windows

Have you tried the commandline switches?
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Futuristic
1/11/2010 5:39:28 PM
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:51:37 +1100, Hosko wrote:

>As I live in Australia and to ping a computer in America results in 
>around 100ms of lag. None of the American public DNS servers are 
>appropriate for me. I'd love it if the DNSB could benchmark agianst 
>local servers.

Hi Hosko,

Futuristic pointed out the commandline power but there's another trick
up DNSB's sleeve.  If you have a DNSBench.ini in the same directory as
DNSBench.exe, it will load the IP addresses from DNSBench.ini.

You can rename a copy of DNSBench.exe to, say, DNSB_au.exe.  Then put
your list of Australian DNS IPs in DNSB_au.ini and it will use them.
These INI files are simple text files and need only include IP
addresses - DNSBench figures it all out from there..

Of course, a nice list of Australian DNS IPs would be a nice addition
here or even Steve's DNSB doc pages.

Hope this helps,

Bill
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Bill_MI
1/11/2010 11:35:28 PM
Bill_MI wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:51:37 +1100, Hosko wrote:
  > Of course, a nice list of Australian DNS IPs would be a nice addition
> here or even Steve's DNSB doc pages.

Here are some of the ISP DNS servers

TPG

Primary DNS: 203.12.160.35
Secondary DNS: 203.12.160.36
Additional DNS: 203.12.160.37

iiNet

Primary DNS: 203.0.178.191
Secondary DNS: 203.0.178.191

Internode

Primary DNS: 192.231.203.132
Secondary DNS: 192.231.203.3

Primary IPv6 DNS: 2001:44b8:1::1
Secondary IPv6 DNS: 2001:44b8:2::2

iPrimus

	New South Wales
	Primary DNS: 203.134.64.66
	Secondary DNS: 203.134.65.66

	Victoria
	Primary DNS: 203.134.24.70
	Secondary DNS: 203.134.26.70

	Queensland
	Primary DNS: 203.134.12.90
	Secondary DNS: 203.134.102.90

	Western Australia
	Primary DNS: 203.134.17.90
	Secondary DNS: 211.26.25.90

Optus

Primary DNS: 211.29.132.12
Secondary DNS: 198.142.0.51

Telstra


	New South Wales
	Primary DNS: 61.9.194.49
	Secondary DNS: 61.9.195.193

	Victoria
	Primary DNS: 61.9.133.193
	Secondary DNS: 61.9.134.49

	Queensland
	Primary DNS: 61.9.211.33
	Secondary DNS: 61.9.211.1

	Tasmania
	Primary DNS: 61.9.188.33
	Secondary DNS: 61.9.134.49

	Australian Capital Territory
	Primary DNS: 61.9.207.1
	Secondary DNS: 61.9.195.193

	South Australia
	Primary DNS: 61.9.226.33
	Secondary DNS: 61.9.194.49

	Northern Territory
	Primary DNS: 61.9.226.33
	Secondary DNS: 61.9.194.49

	Western Australia
	Primary DNS: 61.9.242.33
	Secondary DNS: 61.9.226.33
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Hosko
1/13/2010 11:37:17 AM
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:37:17 +1100, Hosko wrote:

>Here are some of the ISP DNS servers

I made a text file of just the 26 IP addresses, 1 on each line, and
saved it as file named DNSBench_au.ini.

I placed this file in the same directory with a copy of DNSBench.exe.

I then renamed this DNSBench.exe to DNSBench_au.exe.

When I run DNSBench_au.exe it has only my locally configured server
and those 26 servers from DNSBench_au.ini.

When I run the test I see for Australian server what I'm sure you see
for US servers.  Horrible!  But only 5 of them are working for me.

From DNSBench upper-left control menu, I did the "Save Nameservers to
DNSBENCH_AU.INI" which rewrites that file with the addresses nicely
sorted and names added.  It's attached here.

Do these all work from your location?

Bill
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Expert Opinions $20, Shut-Up $50

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end
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Bill_MI
1/13/2010 2:28:36 PM
On 1/11/2010 7:51 AM, Hosko wrote:
> I just downloaded Google's DNS Benchmark program, its available at
> http://code.google.com/p/namebench/
>

For clarity, this is not Google's DNS Benchmark program. It appears to a 
software developer using Google Code to publish his project. Looks 
interesting, nonetheless.

Ian


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Ian
1/14/2010 3:46:42 AM
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:46:42 -0800, Ian wrote:

> On 1/11/2010 7:51 AM, Hosko wrote:
>> I just downloaded Google's DNS Benchmark program, its available at
>> http://code.google.com/p/namebench/
>>
> 
> For clarity, this is not Google's DNS Benchmark program. It appears to a 
> software developer using Google Code to publish his project. Looks 
> interesting, nonetheless.

It's from Thomas R Stromberg, about whom I know nothing.

When I downloaded and ran this program a few weeks ago, it stopped
responding early in the test, and had to be terminated via Task Manager.

I have just downloaded it again, and run it successfully. The results it
gave me are, at this moment, probably technically correct, but there is
no mention of spoofability. It alerts about Open DNS and Ultra DNS
diverting failed queries, but does not warn about Virgin's similar
practice.

Having run many versions of DNSBench during its evolution, I find
Namebench less informative and transparent. It is a pity that DNSBench
has been delayed for so long, allowing Mr Stromberg to get in first with
an (IMO) lesser product. 
0
no
1/14/2010 10:34:01 AM
"no nym" <temp@example.net> wrote in message 
news:omn8n1n1qwxn$.qs1nrqhhhn3c$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:46:42 -0800, Ian wrote:
>
>> On 1/11/2010 7:51 AM, Hosko wrote:
>>> I just downloaded Google's DNS Benchmark program, its available at
>>> http://code.google.com/p/namebench/
>>>
>>
>> For clarity, this is not Google's DNS Benchmark program. It appears to a
>> software developer using Google Code to publish his project. Looks
>> interesting, nonetheless.
>
> It's from Thomas R Stromberg, about whom I know nothing.
>
> When I downloaded and ran this program a few weeks ago, it stopped
> responding early in the test, and had to be terminated via Task Manager.
>
> I have just downloaded it again, and run it successfully. The results it
> gave me are, at this moment, probably technically correct, but there is
> no mention of spoofability. It alerts about Open DNS and Ultra DNS
> diverting failed queries, but does not warn about Virgin's similar
> practice.
>

......snipped some info concerning how it runs

> Having run many versions of DNSBench during its evolution, I find
> Namebench less informative and transparent. It is a pity that DNSBench
> has been delayed for so long, allowing Mr Stromberg to get in first with
> an (IMO) lesser product.

In my experience, better software eventually prevails, but it is a pity that 
the bar was left so low to begin with. DNSB (had it been released already) 
would likely have set the standard for dns testing - especially combined 
with the link to spoofability testing. Might have saved Thomas R Stromberg 
the trouble (although most likely he learned a lot through the process). 


0
Kerry
1/14/2010 2:34:13 PM
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We have 80% of our network on Novell Netware and use DHCP and DNS on Novell servers. Recently there have been implementations of Microsoft Active Directory installations and we were told that Microsoft does not support Novell DNS and we are therefore having to keep a Microsoft DNS. I have set a forwarder on my DNS server that points to the IP address of my Windows 2003 server and thought that if the Novell DNS could not reply it would be forwarded to the Win2003 DNS, it isn't working though, any ideas? Mark We have 4 Novell DNS servers and I have just not...

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HI, I have to setup and AD in our NetWare 5.1 environment. DNS service are hosted by Netware server. AD needs a DNS server. Can I use the Netware DNS or I need to configure a new W2K DNS? Since AD need to register specific records in DNS. If you have any good documents or links about that I will appreciate. Thanks in advance Dany Some of my clients are in the same boat. The configuration that seems to work best for them is to have the MS DNS running to handle the AD stuff. Also run the Novell DNS pointing to the MS DNS as the authoritative source. Have the ...

Question about DNS about DNS over VPN
Hi, we have got a problem (probabliy we misunderstood something) with the VPN - Client. When I login with the VPN-Client, where can I set the DNS-Context (Search Context) which will be passed to the Client? I can not find any settings at the VPN Definitions. Thanks in advance Reg. Thomas Thomas, It appears that in the past few days you have not received a response to your posting. That concerns us, and has triggered this automated reply. Has your problem been resolved? If not, you might try one of the following options: - Do a search of our knowledgebase at http...

DNS not forwarding to other dns servers
We had a problem the other day when we lost power on our external DNS server. Users out on the internet were not able to hit our website and do any resolutions to our Secure VPN gateway. When we used the URL address for the website it would not resolve. When we used the VPN Client it would not resolve the name to an address to access the VPN. If we used the IP address it would work. I was under the impression if my dns server went down anyone trying to resolve address to my domain would get the resolution from their DNS server since this information was cached in their DNS Server....

DNS Benchmark Status
Gang... (Follow-ups to the new grc.dns group) I'm making good progress toward the first release of GRC's DNS Benchmark utility. Some aspects of the operating model (the internal data structures) of the original DNSRU system were incompatible with the more configurable user-friendly approach the final utility needs to take, as well as with some of the new features we need. So I'm having to dig in a bit deeper than I expected to change things around -- not to mention re-learn what I did seven years ago when DNSRU was first written. But I'm getting a han...

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