Booted from USB, cannot mount/access other hard drives!!

I have booted up from openSUSE 11.3 on a USB stick. When i go into
Dolphin (the file explorer) and try to open a harddrive, I get the
error:


Code:
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  An error occurred while accessing 'MyHardDrive', the system responded: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy: org.freedesktop.hal.storage.mount-fixed auth_admin_keep_always <-- (action,result)
  
--------------------


What can I do?


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0 6tr6tr 9/17/2010 7:36:01 PM
caf4926;2224219 Wrote: 
> Open a terminal and type: su
> 
> Once root eg if your partition is ext4 do: *mount -t ext4 /dev/sd??
> /path-to/mount-point*

Thanks, that did it! :) (And sorry for the thousand and one questions
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0 6tr6tr 9/17/2010 8:06:01 PM
Open a terminal and type: su

Once root eg if your partition is ext4 do: *mount -t ext4 /dev/sd??
/path-to/mount-point*


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0 caf4926 9/17/2010 8:06:01 PM
caf4926;2224219 Wrote: 
> Open a terminal and type: su
> 
> Once root eg if your partition is ext4 do: *mount -t ext4 /dev/sd??
> /path-to/mount-point*

Wait, 2 questions:

1. Will this persist across reboots

2. Is there a recommended path I should set for the mount point? like
/home/extradrive?


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0 6tr6tr 9/18/2010 1:06:02 AM
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> Wait, 2 questions:
> 
> 1. Will this persist across reboots
> 
> 2. Is there a recommended path I should set for the mount point? like
> /home/extradrive?No.
I thought this was a live system.
Only in a install can you edit /etc/fstab to set mounting of devices to
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0 caf4926 9/18/2010 3:36:01 AM
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> No.
> I thought this was a live system.
> Only in a install can you edit /etc/fstab to set mounting of devices to
> specific locations

It is now an installed OS. Yet, this is still happening! Any idea why?
What do I put in /etc/fstab to make this persist?


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0 6tr6tr 9/18/2010 7:36:02 PM
I have to sleep now
But post your fdisk -l info and tell me which partition it is and where
you would like it mounted Eg: In a folder called My_Media or whatever
'YouTube - su - fdisk.mpeg'
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h191KrDK-I0)


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0 caf4926 9/18/2010 8:36:01 PM
caf4926;2224689 Wrote: 
> I have to sleep now
> But post your fdisk -l info and tell me which partition it is and where
> you would like it mounted Eg: In a folder called My_Media or whatever
> 'YouTube - su - fdisk.mpeg'
> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h191KrDK-I0)

Thanks for helping. I have an additional question after the fdisk
results below:
> Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x00037060
> 
> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sda1               1         262     2103296   82  Linux swap /
> Solaris
> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda2   *         262        2873    20972544   83  Linux
> /dev/sda3            2873       38914   289494016   83  Linux
> 
> Disk /dev/sdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x5c83a37f
> 
> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sdb1               1       19457   156288321   83  Linux
> 

Why does it say, "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary." Is
this a bad thing? This partition setup was openSUSE Installer's auto
setup.

Thanks!


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0 6tr6tr 9/20/2010 2:36:03 PM
Don't worry too much about it if all is working OK
Google the phrase: Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary
It will reveal info

Were you going to tell me the partition you want mounting and placename


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0 caf4926 9/20/2010 3:06:02 PM
caf4926;2225411 Wrote: 
> Don't worry too much about it if all is working OK
> Google the phrase: Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary
> It will reveal info
> 
> Were you going to tell me the partition you want mounting and placename

Opps, sorry! (I can be dense sometimes)

I want to mount /dev/sdb. And I suppose I'd like to name it
"Extra_Storage". As for the path to it, does it make sense to put it in
something like /dev or /media? It's an internal HD that's set to cable
select. Thanks!

One quick question: in the "fdisk -l" it says that disk is 160GB, but
Dolphin lists it as 149GB. Why the huge discrepancy?


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0 6tr6tr 9/20/2010 3:36:03 PM
Formated size is different then RAW size since formating takes up space.
fdisk is telling you the RAW size and Dolphin is telling you the
formated size.


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0 gogalthorp 9/20/2010 4:06:04 PM
Add a line to /etc/fstab like this (I'm assuming it's ext4, edit as
necessary if different)


Code:
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    /dev/sdb1 /EXTRA_STORAGE ext4 defaults 0 0
--------------------


Now in a su - terminal do


Code:
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    mkdir /EXTRA_STORAGE
--------------------


Reboot
(we may have to do some ownership stuff, but see)

*Just in case....
'FSTAB - Editing Manually' (http://tinyurl.com/2bwpzo2)


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caf4926;2225576 Wrote: 
> Add a line to /etc/fstab like this (I'm assuming it's ext4, edit as
> necessary if different)
> 
> > 
Code:
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  >   > /dev/sdb1 /EXTRA_STORAGE ext4 defaults 0 0
--------------------
> > 
> 
> Now in a su - terminal do
> 
> > 
Code:
--------------------
  >   > mkdir /EXTRA_STORAGE
--------------------
> > 
> 
> Reboot
> (we may have to do some ownership stuff, but see)
> 
> *Just in case....
> 'FSTAB - Editing Manually' (http://tinyurl.com/2bwpzo2)

A few questions:

1. Why /dev/sdb instead of using the by-id?
2. It is a physically different HD, does this matter (still use sdb1)?
3. Why is the "check" column 0 0? Shouldn't I have the system check for
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caf4926;2225576 Wrote: 
> Add a line to /etc/fstab like this (I'm assuming it's ext4, edit as
> necessary if different)
> 
> > 
Code:
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  >   > /dev/sdb1 /EXTRA_STORAGE ext4 defaults 0 0
--------------------
> > 
> 
> Now in a su - terminal do
> 
> > 
Code:
--------------------
  >   > mkdir /EXTRA_STORAGE
--------------------
> > 
> 
> Reboot
> (we may have to do some ownership stuff, but see)
> 
> *Just in case....
> 'FSTAB - Editing Manually' (http://tinyurl.com/2bwpzo2)

OK, now i'm getting a new error:
> An error occurred while accessing '149.0 GiB Hard Drive', the system
> responded: mount: only root can mount /dev/sdb1 on /extra_storage

I should mention:
1. I do not log in as root
2. My root/admin password is *different* than my main user's password


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0 6tr6tr 9/20/2010 6:36:03 PM
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> Use Dolphin super user 
> View the folder /extra_storage and right click it > properties > 
> Change permissions like this
> 'ImageBam - Fast, Free Image Hosting and Photo Sharing'
> (http://www.imagebam.com/image/52a65884336988)

Argh! I still get the same error!! :(


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> Argh! I still get the same error!! :(

Whoah! I checked the propeties -> permissions again in Dolphin super
user and they were not applied! I re-applied them, and now they work!
Weird.

Thanks for your help!

Two questions:

1. Will this no persist across reboots?
2. Why did this happen in the first place?


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Use Dolphin super user 
View the folder /extra_storage and right click it > properties > 
Change permissions like this
'ImageBam - Fast, Free Image Hosting and Photo Sharing'
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Did you check the the apply to all sub folders, reboot?
If still not working...

as su -
from the terminal


Code:
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    chown -R  /extra_storage
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I think..


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0 caf4926 9/20/2010 7:06:03 PM
6tr6tr;2225610 Wrote: 
> Whoah! I checked the propeties -> permissions again in Dolphin super
> user and they were not applied! I re-applied them, and now they work!
> Weird.
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> Two questions:
> 
> 1. Will this no persist across reboots?
> 2. Why did this happen in the first place?

It's permanent 
KDE bugs
Just works in Gnome

Can you just post fstab please for me
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1. They do persist across reboots. But you created the folder again, or
a different one.
2. This happened because you created the folder manually, as root. New
folders have a default permission order of rwxr-xr-x, this means others
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OK
That's fine


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> Thanks again for all your help!
No worries


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> It's permanent 
> KDE bugs
> Just works in Gnome
> 
> Can you just post fstab please for me
> I'm wondering if there was already an entry by ID


Code:
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    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD3100AHJB-00J3A0_WD-WBAV2M571475-part1 swap                 swap       defaults              0 0
  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD3100AHJB-00J3A0_WD-WBAV2M571475-part2 /                    ext4       acl,user_xattr        1 1
  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD3100AHJB-00J3A0_WD-WBAV2M571475-part3 /home                ext4       acl,user_xattr        1 2
  /dev/sdb1                                                       /extra_storage       ext3       defaults              0 0
  proc                 /proc                proc       defaults              0 0
  sysfs                /sys                 sysfs      noauto                0 0
  debugfs              /sys/kernel/debug    debugfs    noauto                0 0
  devpts               /dev/pts             devpts     mode=0620,gid=5       0 0
  
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caf4926;2225636 Wrote: 
> OK
> That's fine

Thanks again for all your help!


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