FireDAC = AnyDAC components under Embarcadero umbrella

It look like the *Fire* is spreading from FireMonkey to the new AnyDAC aquisition... ending up in a new *hot* name: *FireDAC* that will be the new name that AnyDAC database access components will get under Embarcadero's umbrella ... Here are some pointers:
http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/XE3/en/FireDAC
http://www.da-soft.com/anydac/docu/frames.html
0 Ciprian 2/20/2013 7:36:36 AM 
Once was all *snap (websnap, someone remember this? then datasnap that is 
still here... and also if I remember well the soap components were 
something-snap) now is all fire*...

nothing to call firesnap??? 




"Ciprian Popa" ha scritto nel messaggio 
news:549431@forums.embarcadero.com...

It look like the *Fire* is spreading from FireMonkey to the new AnyDAC 
aquisition... ending up in a new *hot* name: *FireDAC* that will be the new 
name that AnyDAC database access components will get under Embarcadero's 
umbrella ... Here are some pointers:
http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/XE3/en/FireDAC
http://www.da-soft.com/anydac/docu/frames.html
0 Roberto 2/20/2013 8:41:59 AM 
Works perfectly with FireBird, but not interbase?

 wrote in message news:549431@forums.embarcadero.com...
> It look like the *Fire* is spreading from FireMonkey to the new AnyDAC 
> aquisition... ending up in a new *hot* name: *FireDAC* that will be the 
> new name that AnyDAC database access components will get under 
> Embarcadero's umbrella ... Here are some pointers:
> http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/XE3/en/FireDAC
> http://www.da-soft.com/anydac/docu/frames.html
0 Uffe 2/20/2013 9:34:15 AM 
> Works perfectly with FireBird, but not interbase?

Uhm, maybe we should rename that to FireBase .

Just joking (before someone reads too much into this).

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0 Marco 2/20/2013 1:37:57 PM 
> Works perfectly with FireBird, but not interbase?

Works perfectly with Firebird and Interbase, and not only.

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AnyDAC - Firebird, SQLite, MySQL, SQL Server, Oracle, PostgreSQL, 
DB2, SQL Anywhere, Access, Informix, ODBC high-speed data access lib
0 Dmitry 2/20/2013 1:55:22 PM 
>> Works perfectly with FireBird, but not interbase?
>
> Works perfectly with Firebird and Interbase, and not only.

Guess Uffe was referring to the name: FireDAC and Firebird sound related.


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Marco Cantu (Embarcadero)
0 Marco 2/20/2013 2:25:45 PM 
> ... sound related.

Of course, a duck is a bird too :)

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AnyDAC - Firebird, SQLite, MySQL, SQL Server, Oracle, PostgreSQL, 
DB2, SQL Anywhere, Access, Informix, ODBC high-speed data access lib
0 Dmitry 2/20/2013 3:06:46 PM 
Hi Marco,

>> Works perfectly with FireBird, but not interbase?
>
> Uhm, maybe we should rename that to FireBase .

And rename DataSnap to FireSnap? ;-)

> Just joking (before someone reads too much into this).

Darn. ;-)

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0 Bob 2/20/2013 4:07:50 PM 
Bob Swart wrote:

> 
> And rename DataSnap to FireSnap? ;-)

I wouldn't mind "DataFire" -- that's actually kind of cool.

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0 Nick 2/20/2013 4:12:59 PM 
> And rename DataSnap to FireSnap? ;-)
Yes, after the Linux version ;-)
0 Robert 2/20/2013 4:21:24 PM 
"Nick Hodges"  wrote in message 
news:549544@forums.embarcadero.com...
> Bob Swart wrote:
>
>>
>> And rename DataSnap to FireSnap? ;-)
>
> I wouldn't mind "DataFire" -- that's actually kind of cool.
>

hmm, burning data - yeah, some people would appreciate that. But I think it 
rather more 'hot', than cool.
0 david 2/20/2013 4:52:06 PM 
"Marco Cantu"  wrote 

Uhm, maybe we should rename that to FireBase .

FireBlaze would sound good for marketing purpose
0 Gilbert 2/20/2013 5:16:40 PM 
"Gilbert Padilla"  wrote in message 
news:549571@forums.embarcadero.com...
> "Marco Cantu"  wrote
>
> Uhm, maybe we should rename that to FireBase .
>
> FireBlaze would sound good for marketing purpose

yeah, that would probably go well with DataFire, suggested by Nick.
0 david 2/20/2013 5:20:10 PM 
"david hoke"  wrote in message news:549573@forums.embarcadero.com...
> "Marco Cantu"  wrote
>
> Uhm, maybe we should rename that to FireBase .
>
> FireBlaze would sound good for marketing purpose

>>yeah, that would probably go well with DataFire, suggested by Nick.

or maybe FireBlaze should be the appropriate name for FireDAC since  AnyDAC 
enables native high-speed direct access.
0 Gilbert 2/20/2013 5:28:27 PM 
Le 20/02/13 16:12, Nick Hodges a écrit :

> I wouldn't mind "DataFire" -- that's actually kind of cool.

OK, if Fire is the common theme for EMBT products, why the Monkey part 
for the replacement VCL - what does a name like that really infer? ;-)

Joanna

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0 Joanna 2/20/2013 6:22:47 PM 
On 2/20/2013 10:22 AM, Joanna Carter (Team OOAD)  Le 20/02/13 16:12, Nick Hodges a écrit :
>
>> I wouldn't mind "DataFire" -- that's actually kind of cool.
>
> OK, if Fire is the common theme for EMBT products, why the Monkey part
> for the replacement VCL - what does a name like that really infer? ;-)
>

Same reason Apple uses "Gorilla Glass"??? 

David Erbas-White
0 David 2/20/2013 6:26:27 PM 
On 2013-02-20 09:34, Uffe Kousgaard wrote:
> Works perfectly with FireBird, but not interbase?

It does... All Interbase developer got "fired".  ;-)


Regards,
  - Graeme -
0 Graeme 2/20/2013 7:04:49 PM 
>> Works perfectly with FireBird, but not interbase?
>
> Uhm, maybe we should rename that to FireBase .

Yeah, but keep them separate. ;-)

Firebird, FireBase, FireSnap, Firefox, ... everything is under fire 
currently. ;-)


Regards,
Thomas
0 Thomas 2/20/2013 7:15:56 PM 
> {quote:title=Ciprian Popa wrote:}{quote}
> It look like the *Fire* is spreading from FireMonkey to the new AnyDAC aquisition... ending up in a new *hot* name: *FireDAC*

Thank goodness, not AnyMonkey!
0 Arthur 2/20/2013 8:00:56 PM 
Am 20.02.2013 17:12, schrieb Nick Hodges:
> Bob Swart wrote:
> 
>>
>> And rename DataSnap to FireSnap? ;-)
> 
> I wouldn't mind "DataFire" -- that's actually kind of cool.
> 

Quick: where do I need to send the fire brigade to? ;-)

Greetings

Markus
0 Markus 2/20/2013 8:20:48 PM 
Am 20.02.2013 19:26, schrieb David Erbas-White:
> On 2/20/2013 10:22 AM, Joanna Carter (Team OOAD)  OOAD] wrote:
>> Le 20/02/13 16:12, Nick Hodges a écrit :
>>
>>> I wouldn't mind "DataFire" -- that's actually kind of cool.
>>
>> OK, if Fire is the common theme for EMBT products, why the Monkey part
>> for the replacement VCL - what does a name like that really infer? ;-)
>>
> 
> Same reason Apple uses "Gorilla Glass"??? 
> 
> David Erbas-White
> 

Isn't Gorilla Glass a brand of the glass manufacturer Corning?

Greetings

Markus
0 Markus 2/20/2013 8:21:35 PM 
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:

> All Interbase developer got "fired".  ;-)

That's a rumor, and not a good one.

-- 
Nick
0 Nick 2/20/2013 8:44:46 PM 
rumor? I heard he decided to pursue his Cobol career.
0 Kramer 2/20/2013 9:15:56 PM 
Ciprian Popa wrote:

> It look like the Fire is spreading from FireMonkey to the new AnyDAC
> aquisition... ending up in a new hot name: FireDAC

Aw, they missed an opportunity: AnyMonkey.  :-)  Or maybe they're
saving that one for the automatic application generator...

-- 
Cheers,
Van

"Half of what I say is meaningless..." - John Lennon
"Your job is to figure out which half." - Van Swofford
0 Van 2/20/2013 10:38:42 PM 
> {quote:title=Ciprian Popa wrote:}{quote}
> It look like the *Fire* is spreading from FireMonkey to the new AnyDAC aquisition... ending up in a new *hot* name: *FireDAC* that will be the new name that AnyDAC database access components will get under Embarcadero's umbrella ... Here are some pointers:
> http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/XE3/en/FireDAC
> http://www.da-soft.com/anydac/docu/frames.html


Dang, I had my fingers crossed that the blog comment suggesting "Water Donkey" would prevail.... :-(
0 Joseph 2/21/2013 1:43:11 AM 
> {quote:title=Van Swofford wrote:}{quote}
> Ciprian Popa wrote:
> 
> > It look like the Fire is spreading from FireMonkey to the new AnyDAC
> > aquisition... ending up in a new hot name: FireDAC
> 
> Aw, they missed an opportunity: AnyMonkey.  :-)  Or maybe they're
> saving that one for the automatic application generator...
> 

To borrow from a software joke...

With an infinite number of monkeys typing at an infinite number of keyboards, one of them will eventually produce a compilable Delphi program. The rest will produce Perl code.
0 Joseph 2/21/2013 1:45:00 AM 
Thomas Steinmaurer wrote:

> >> Works perfectly with FireBird, but not interbase?
> > 
> > Uhm, maybe we should rename that to FireBase .
> 
> Yeah, but keep them separate. ;-)
> 
> Firebird, FireBase, FireSnap, Firefox, ... everything is under fire 
> currently. ;-)

Including Alicia Keys ;-)

-- 
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"Real life is that big, high-res, high-color screen saver behind
 all the windows." -- anonymous
0 Pieter 2/21/2013 1:45:50 AM 
> {quote:title=Dmitry Arefiev wrote:}{quote}
> > ... sound related.
> 
> Of course, a duck is a bird too :)
> 
> -- 

Sadly, Delphi doesn't support duck typing, so this connection cannot be made.
0 Joseph 2/21/2013 1:46:31 AM 
Joseph Mitzen wrote:

 
> To borrow from a software joke...
> 
> With an infinite number of monkeys typing at an infinite number of
> keyboards, one of them will eventually produce a compilable Delphi
> program. The rest will produce Perl code.

Gee, I thought that they produced FireMonkey...

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"Half of what I say is meaningless..." - John Lennon
"Your job is to figure out which half." - Van Swofford
0 Van 2/21/2013 2:22:16 AM 
The link above to FreDAC is broken. Or did Embarcadero change their opinion about dubbing it FireDAC?
0 Iskander 2/25/2013 4:23:40 AM 
> {quote:title=Joseph Mitzen wrote:}{quote}

> With an infinite number of monkeys typing at an infinite number of keyboards, one of them will eventually produce a compilable Delphi program. The rest will produce Perl code.

Perl is beautiful. Have been having Perl production level application working for over 10 years without a single problem. Moving them between Windows and Linux is a breeze!
0 Kramer 2/25/2013 7:41:37 AM 
For money only if you have Professional. But the price is too high.

http://www.embarcadero.com/products/rad-studio/firedac

Gabor
0 Gabor 2/28/2013 3:11:39 PM 
I think sticking with the bird names we could use FowlBird and FowlDAC as It is all starting to smell Foul to me. $499.00 for the components for professional users??  I think Embarcadero is squeezing a lot of Professional users who have been around since their inception out of their market with their pricing and pushing everything into their $2000 a year products they release every 9 months now with a new them. .NET then FireMonkey and what is next? Component prices have been on the rise and also get to c
harge a higher upgrade fee.

Evaluating it all, Microsoft is starting to look better and more affordable and with web based apps they can run on any OS as well.

Embarcadero may want to see how long they want to stay around.  Maybe they don't need the Professional developers but I wonder what percentage of their users use the Professional Version?
0 Daniel 3/3/2013 3:08:40 PM 
On 21.02.2013 02:45, Joseph Mitzen wrote:
>> {quote:title=Van Swofford wrote:}{quote}
>> Ciprian Popa wrote:
>>
>>> It look like the Fire is spreading from FireMonkey to the new AnyDAC
>>> aquisition... ending up in a new hot name: FireDAC
>>
>> Aw, they missed an opportunity: AnyMonkey.  :-)  Or maybe they're
>> saving that one for the automatic application generator...
>>
>
> To borrow from a software joke...
>
> With an infinite number of monkeys typing at an infinite number of keyboards, one of them will eventually produce a compilable Delphi program. The rest will produce Perl code.
>

I would think they rather produced a mix of perl and php code

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0 Alf 3/3/2013 11:57:14 PM 
> {quote:title=Daniel McDonald wrote:}{quote}
> I think sticking with the bird names we could use FowlBird and FowlDAC as It is all starting to smell Foul to me. $499.00 for the components for professional users?? 

Invest in your future, look around yourself. It's how you got to where you are.  It's not bad luck or an accident, you made it happen.  This is play money. Get into it, go for the glory, or go home and let us handle it.
Al.
0 Alan 3/12/2013 9:26:45 PM 
> {quote:title=Alan Taylor wrote:}{quote}

> Invest in your future, look around yourself. It's how you got to where you are.  It's not bad luck or an accident, you made it happen.  This is play money. Get into it, go for the glory, or go home and let us handle it.
> Al.

It's not play money; it's real money. This reminds me of **** Mitchell's admonishment towards bettors who believe they can increase their bets heavily after winning because "After all, now I'm playing with the track's money." He wrote that you're not playing with the track's money. Once you cash a ticket the money is yours. The only way to play with the track's money is to commit a felony. He then asked if player's don't even know whose money they're using, how can they expect to become winners? 


There's a difference between investing and throwing money away. Without getting into the rightness or wrongness of the original poster's assessment, he believes that the return on the money isn't worth it compared to what one gains. Placing money where you expect to get less back is not investing. 

>and let us handle it.

If you believe spending $500 on database drivers (what other languages call "essential components of the language") is  sound investment, have at it.
0 Joseph 3/17/2013 1:34:12 AM
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