Powerbuilder 5.0 against Visual Basic 5.0
Can someone give me some good advise why I sould use Powerbuilder 5.0 instead of Visual Basic 5.0 for making critical applications (With SQL-server 6.5) ?? We are looking forward to build critical applications for around 100 users. Please sent your notes to e-mail: karel.geraerts@alz.be instead of this newsgroup. Many thanks!
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jo
1/6/1998 5:58:10 PM
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Mainly because you don't have to put up with all the crap found in the Microsoft newsgroups when you need help. (Ads for pirated software from Hong Kong, etc.) There are a lot of other reasons as well (PB is OO, supports inheritance, yadda yadda yadda). Regards, Dave Fish [Team PS] Application Design Specialists On Tue, 06 Jan 1998 12:58:10 -0500, jo.kortleven@alz.be wrote: >Can someone give me some good advise why I sould use Powerbuilder 5.0 >instead of Visual Basic 5.0 for making critical applications (With >SQL-server 6.5) ?? >We are looking forward to build critical applications for around 100 >users. >Please sent your notes to e-mail: karel.geraerts@alz.be instead of this >newsgroup. >Many thanks!
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dfish
1/7/1998 9:56:35 AM
While Dave is correct, this debate could go on and on. It's been my personal programming experience that if you're working in a "Team Environment", PB's the way to go. If your apps are going to be relatively small and will not be distributed to 100's of users, I'd personally go with VB. VB is much faster (esp. at math, indexing etc.) and VB actually works with "drop-in" controls. PB on the other hand is a resource "HOG", is still quite "buggy" and still does does not work "WELL" with ActiveX controls... Not even those created by its sister company Visual Components. Anyway, that's just an opinion, but after 4 years, I wish my company had made different decisions.... Dave Fish [Team PS] <dfish@bigpond.com> wrote in article <34b350da.50909143@forums.powersoft.com>... > Mainly because you don't have to put up with all the crap found in the > Microsoft newsgroups when you need help. (Ads for pirated software > from Hong Kong, etc.) > > There are a lot of other reasons as well (PB is OO, supports > inheritance, yadda yadda yadda). >
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Randy
1/7/1998 1:29:44 PM
Take a look at the VB5/PB6 comparison at: http://www3.sympatico.ca/jwoodger/vbpb.htm For large applications, I believe that PB is the better choice: - true OO development (code-level inheritance, overriding, overloading). - frameworks (PFC, etc.) For small apps (especially ones that users might enhance in future), VB is the better choice. If this is a long-term decision, try to get beyond what you currently know (e.g. if you know VB much better at the moment). In the long-term, the learning curve of the more appropriate tool will be small compared to the amount of development time saved. ----------------- jo.kortleven@alz.be wrote: > Can someone give me some good advise why I sould use Powerbuilder 5.0 > instead of Visual Basic 5.0 for making critical applications (With > SQL-server 6.5) ?? > We are looking forward to build critical applications for around 100 > users. > Please sent your notes to e-mail: karel.geraerts@alz.be instead of this > newsgroup. > Many thanks!
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James
1/7/1998 5:46:36 PM
My number one reason for choosing PB is connectivity. With VB, you can only connect using ODBC. You should choose the Enterprise Edition of PB. If your delivery date is more than 6 months from now, I'd go with PB6 because they'll probably have all the bugs out before you have to deliver. If you've got a shorter time-frame, stick with PB5 but be sure to get the 5.03 updates. All of it's bugs are well documented and there are plenty of work-arounds. My number two reason is purely emotional - why put any more money into the hands of the company that has dictated to the whole damn world an operating system that is a total piece of crap?!
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Al
1/9/1998 4:46:35 PM
Actually, with VB you can connect to databases using stuff other than ODBC. For example, with Oracle (the most popular database) you can use Oracle Objects for OLE (OO4O) which is an OLE interface directly into Oracle's Call Level Interface. Just thought I'd correct an incorrect statement. Al Davison wrote: > My number one reason for choosing PB is connectivity. With VB, you can > only connect using ODBC. You should choose the Enterprise Edition of PB. > If your delivery date is more than 6 months from now, I'd go with PB6 > because they'll probably have all the bugs out before you have to deliver. > If you've got a shorter time-frame, stick with PB5 but be sure to get the > 5.03 updates. All of it's bugs are well documented and there are plenty of > work-arounds. > > My number two reason is purely emotional - why put any more money into the > hands of the company that has dictated to the whole damn world an operating > system that is a total piece of crap?! -- Eric Dirst edirst@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~edirst/ Business: 847-384-6640 Fax: 847-698-3762
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Eric
1/13/1998 1:24:48 AM
Thanks for the update. However, I'd pick ODBC over anything OLE. Both ways take you through extra layers of translation as opposed to native drivers. I guess that was my main point - always go with the native drivers when they're available. I've read extensively about ODBC vs. native drivers. With MS SQL Server, you don't lose much (sometimes they're even faster) with ODBC but, MS "cheated" with it's ODBC driver set to MS SQL Server - it's really a native driver, anyway. Always good to hear other options and opinions. Thanks for writing! Al Davison
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Al
1/13/1998 4:19:44 AM
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