Any people run into any problems with 6.5.1 (+ EBF 1163)
that were not there in vanilla 6.5.0.

We have to migrate very late in the game (1 week before going live!)
due to problems with 6.5.0 Oracle drivers and I would appreciate
any advice on anything that got broken in that release.

TIA,

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Jacek Furmankiewicz
STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------

6.51 introduces a peculiar side effect during update() of  datawindow -
scrolls the datawindow to the first row.

BTW, what is it with Oracle drivers that forces you to go to 6.51 - sounds
fishy...

--
pbm_thisusuallydoesnothelp :-))

"Jacek Furmankiewicz" <jfurmankiewicz@stssystems.com> wrote in message
news:kB4XihEl$GA.202@forums.sybase.com...
> Any people run into any problems with 6.5.1 (+ EBF 1163)
> that were not there in vanilla 6.5.0.
>
> We have to migrate very late in the game (1 week before going live!)
> due to problems with 6.5.0 Oracle drivers and I would appreciate
> any advice on anything that got broken in that release.
>
> TIA,
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jacek Furmankiewicz
> STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

>
> BTW, what is it with Oracle drivers that forces you to go to 6.51 - sounds
> fishy...
>

We needed support for Oracle 8, so I started using the OR8 driver that
comes with PB 6.5. It turns out it had a bug whereas it would send
a column consisting of a single space (i.e. ' ') as a NULL, and it so
happened this column does not allow nulls. It worked just fine with O73.

Unfortunately, all the new OR8 and O84 drivers require PB 6.5.1,
so here we are now...boo hoo hoo...and I really liked 6.5.0 - we've been
using it for a year and it was the most rock-solid release of PB ever
(minus some menu GPFs when switching items visible/invisible, but we
had workarounds for those)...


--------------------------------------------------------------------
Jacek Furmankiewicz
STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------

And what feature of Oracle8 are you planning to "support", that you can not
support using 073 driver?

--
pbm_thisusuallydoesnothelp :-))

"Jacek Furmankiewicz" <jfurmankiewicz@stssystems.com> wrote in message
news:qngT23El$GA.285@forums.sybase.com...
> >
> > BTW, what is it with Oracle drivers that forces you to go to 6.51 -
sounds
> > fishy...
> >
>
> We needed support for Oracle 8, so I started using the OR8 driver that
> comes with PB 6.5. It turns out it had a bug whereas it would send
> a column consisting of a single space (i.e. ' ') as a NULL, and it so
> happened this column does not allow nulls. It worked just fine with O73.
>
> Unfortunately, all the new OR8 and O84 drivers require PB 6.5.1,
> so here we are now...boo hoo hoo...and I really liked 6.5.0 - we've been
> using it for a year and it was the most rock-solid release of PB ever
> (minus some menu GPFs when switching items visible/invisible, but we
> had workarounds for those)...
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jacek Furmankiewicz
> STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

None in particular.

We were just having problems at some client sites connecting to
Oracle 8 servers via SQLNet 8.0.5 using the O73 driver.

I do the same on my PC no problem, but it did not work for a client
and after asking a few questions on this forum a few people told me
that the PB drivers ARE dependent sometimes on the version of
SQLnet you're using and might not work across the board.

Jacek

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Jacek Furmankiewicz
STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Philip Salgannik <psalgannik@softrax.com> wrote in message
news:9FxXR9El$GA.202@forums.sybase.com...
> And what feature of Oracle8 are you planning to "support", that you can
not
> support using 073 driver?
>
> --
> pbm_thisusuallydoesnothelp :-))
>
> "Jacek Furmankiewicz" <jfurmankiewicz@stssystems.com> wrote in message
> news:qngT23El$GA.285@forums.sybase.com...
> > >
> > > BTW, what is it with Oracle drivers that forces you to go to 6.51 -
> sounds
> > > fishy...
> > >
> >
> > We needed support for Oracle 8, so I started using the OR8 driver that
> > comes with PB 6.5. It turns out it had a bug whereas it would send
> > a column consisting of a single space (i.e. ' ') as a NULL, and it so
> > happened this column does not allow nulls. It worked just fine with O73.
> >
> > Unfortunately, all the new OR8 and O84 drivers require PB 6.5.1,
> > so here we are now...boo hoo hoo...and I really liked 6.5.0 - we've been
> > using it for a year and it was the most rock-solid release of PB ever
> > (minus some menu GPFs when switching items visible/invisible, but we
> > had workarounds for those)...
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Jacek Furmankiewicz
> > STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>

So there is no real reason to go to 6.5.1 based on what you are telling me
:-))

One one hand it's unconfirmed rumours about incompatabilities between PB's
073 driver and Net 8.05, on the other hand it's confirmed bugs in 6.51 AND
in 8.x drivers...  :-))

--
pbm_thisusuallydoesnothelp :-))

"Jacek Furmankiewicz" <jfurmankiewicz@stssystems.com> wrote in message
news:el19v$El$GA.298@forums.sybase.com...
> None in particular.
>
> We were just having problems at some client sites connecting to
> Oracle 8 servers via SQLNet 8.0.5 using the O73 driver.
>
> I do the same on my PC no problem, but it did not work for a client
> and after asking a few questions on this forum a few people told me
> that the PB drivers ARE dependent sometimes on the version of
> SQLnet you're using and might not work across the board.
>
> Jacek
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jacek Furmankiewicz
> STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Philip Salgannik <psalgannik@softrax.com> wrote in message
> news:9FxXR9El$GA.202@forums.sybase.com...
> > And what feature of Oracle8 are you planning to "support", that you can
> not
> > support using 073 driver?
> >
> > --
> > pbm_thisusuallydoesnothelp :-))
> >
> > "Jacek Furmankiewicz" <jfurmankiewicz@stssystems.com> wrote in message
> > news:qngT23El$GA.285@forums.sybase.com...
> > > >
> > > > BTW, what is it with Oracle drivers that forces you to go to 6.51 -
> > sounds
> > > > fishy...
> > > >
> > >
> > > We needed support for Oracle 8, so I started using the OR8 driver that
> > > comes with PB 6.5. It turns out it had a bug whereas it would send
> > > a column consisting of a single space (i.e. ' ') as a NULL, and it so
> > > happened this column does not allow nulls. It worked just fine with
O73.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, all the new OR8 and O84 drivers require PB 6.5.1,
> > > so here we are now...boo hoo hoo...and I really liked 6.5.0 - we've
been
> > > using it for a year and it was the most rock-solid release of PB ever
> > > (minus some menu GPFs when switching items visible/invisible, but we
> > > had workarounds for those)...
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Jacek Furmankiewicz
> > > STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

I have a client with Net 8. A different application from a different vendor
(probably in a different language than PB) connect to an Oracle 8 server no
problem

Our app using Oracle 7.3 drivers cannot connect to the same server from the
same PC.

Have you got any alternative suggestions besides adding support for Oracle 8
drivers?
I don't.

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Jacek Furmankiewicz
STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Philip Salgannik <psalgannik@softrax.com> wrote in message
news:Qjp#SIFl$GA.201@forums.sybase.com...
> So there is no real reason to go to 6.5.1 based on what you are telling me
> :-))
>
> One one hand it's unconfirmed rumours about incompatabilities between PB's
> 073 driver and Net 8.05, on the other hand it's confirmed bugs in 6.51 AND
> in 8.x drivers...  :-))
>
> --
> pbm_thisusuallydoesnothelp :-))
>
> "Jacek Furmankiewicz" <jfurmankiewicz@stssystems.com> wrote in message
> news:el19v$El$GA.298@forums.sybase.com...
> > None in particular.
> >
> > We were just having problems at some client sites connecting to
> > Oracle 8 servers via SQLNet 8.0.5 using the O73 driver.
> >
> > I do the same on my PC no problem, but it did not work for a client
> > and after asking a few questions on this forum a few people told me
> > that the PB drivers ARE dependent sometimes on the version of
> > SQLnet you're using and might not work across the board.
> >
> > Jacek
> >
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Jacek Furmankiewicz
> > STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Philip Salgannik <psalgannik@softrax.com> wrote in message
> > news:9FxXR9El$GA.202@forums.sybase.com...
> > > And what feature of Oracle8 are you planning to "support", that you
can
> > not
> > > support using 073 driver?
> > >
> > > --
> > > pbm_thisusuallydoesnothelp :-))
> > >
> > > "Jacek Furmankiewicz" <jfurmankiewicz@stssystems.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qngT23El$GA.285@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, what is it with Oracle drivers that forces you to go to
6.51 -
> > > sounds
> > > > > fishy...
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > We needed support for Oracle 8, so I started using the OR8 driver
that
> > > > comes with PB 6.5. It turns out it had a bug whereas it would send
> > > > a column consisting of a single space (i.e. ' ') as a NULL, and it
so
> > > > happened this column does not allow nulls. It worked just fine with
> O73.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, all the new OR8 and O84 drivers require PB 6.5.1,
> > > > so here we are now...boo hoo hoo...and I really liked 6.5.0 - we've
> been
> > > > using it for a year and it was the most rock-solid release of PB
ever
> > > > (minus some menu GPFs when switching items visible/invisible, but we
> > > > had workarounds for those)...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Jacek Furmankiewicz
> > > > STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
> > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

We ran into a huge problem with our menus during PB 6.5.1 testing.  Our
menus are build dynamically from tables and they stopped working with PB
6.5.1.  We had to change many cases of menu.Visible = TRUE/FALSE to
menu.Show() and menu.Hide().

However this was the only major problem we ran into.

-- Paul

I think that was a problem already in 6.5.0 - we had menu GPFs as well
when making items visible/invisible.

I can't believe it hasn't been fixed yet in 6.5.1 (nearly a year later).

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Jacek Furmankiewicz
STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Lefebvre <plefebvre@imany.com> wrote in message
news:2TCxz9Nl$GA.202@forums.sybase.com...
> We ran into a huge problem with our menus during PB 6.5.1 testing.  Our
> menus are build dynamically from tables and they stopped working with PB
> 6.5.1.  We had to change many cases of menu.Visible = TRUE/FALSE to
> menu.Show() and menu.Hide().
>
> However this was the only major problem we ran into.
>
> -- Paul
>
>
>

http://sdn.sybase.com/sdn/appdev/get_doc.stm?loc=1000904

--
pbm_thisusuallydoesnothelp :-))

"Jacek Furmankiewicz" <jfurmankiewicz@stssystems.com> wrote in message
news:t6gqMZOl$GA.111@forums.sybase.com...
> I think that was a problem already in 6.5.0 - we had menu GPFs as well
> when making items visible/invisible.
>
> I can't believe it hasn't been fixed yet in 6.5.1 (nearly a year later).
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jacek Furmankiewicz
> STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Paul Lefebvre <plefebvre@imany.com> wrote in message
> news:2TCxz9Nl$GA.202@forums.sybase.com...
> > We ran into a huge problem with our menus during PB 6.5.1 testing.  Our
> > menus are build dynamically from tables and they stopped working with PB
> > 6.5.1.  We had to change many cases of menu.Visible = TRUE/FALSE to
> > menu.Show() and menu.Hide().
> >
> > However this was the only major problem we ran into.
> >
> > -- Paul
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Cool, good to see that's out of the way. That was pretty much the only
major problem we encountered with 6.5.0, which from my experience
(since PB 4) was the most stable release ever for PB.

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Jacek Furmankiewicz
STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Philip Salgannik <psalgannik@softrax.com> wrote in message
news:6Yw3nxRl$GA.298@forums.sybase.com...
> http://sdn.sybase.com/sdn/appdev/get_doc.stm?loc=1000904
>
> --
> pbm_thisusuallydoesnothelp :-))
>
> "Jacek Furmankiewicz" <jfurmankiewicz@stssystems.com> wrote in message
> news:t6gqMZOl$GA.111@forums.sybase.com...
> > I think that was a problem already in 6.5.0 - we had menu GPFs as well
> > when making items visible/invisible.
> >
> > I can't believe it hasn't been fixed yet in 6.5.1 (nearly a year later).
> >
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Jacek Furmankiewicz
> > STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Paul Lefebvre <plefebvre@imany.com> wrote in message
> > news:2TCxz9Nl$GA.202@forums.sybase.com...
> > > We ran into a huge problem with our menus during PB 6.5.1 testing.
Our
> > > menus are build dynamically from tables and they stopped working with
PB
> > > 6.5.1.  We had to change many cases of menu.Visible = TRUE/FALSE to
> > > menu.Show() and menu.Hide().
> > >
> > > However this was the only major problem we ran into.
> > >
> > > -- Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

PMFJI, but password aging is an important one.

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:33:52 -0500,
 in powersoft.public.powerbuilder.general
Philip Salgannik <psalgannik@softrax.com> wrote: 
>And what feature of Oracle8 are you planning to "support", that you can not
>support using 073 driver?
>
>--
>pbm_thisusuallydoesnothelp :-))
>
>"Jacek Furmankiewicz" <jfurmankiewicz@stssystems.com> wrote in message
>news:qngT23El$GA.285@forums.sybase.com...
>> >
>> > BTW, what is it with Oracle drivers that forces you to go to 6.51 -
>sounds
>> > fishy...
>> >
>>
>> We needed support for Oracle 8, so I started using the OR8 driver that
>> comes with PB 6.5. It turns out it had a bug whereas it would send
>> a column consisting of a single space (i.e. ' ') as a NULL, and it so
>> happened this column does not allow nulls. It worked just fine with O73.
>>
>> Unfortunately, all the new OR8 and O84 drivers require PB 6.5.1,
>> so here we are now...boo hoo hoo...and I really liked 6.5.0 - we've been
>> using it for a year and it was the most rock-solid release of PB ever
>> (minus some menu GPFs when switching items visible/invisible, but we
>> had workarounds for those)...
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Jacek Furmankiewicz
>> STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>

---
Bruce Armstrong [TeamSybase]
mailto:Bruce.Armstrong@teamsybase.com

Preach the gospel at all times. If necessary, use words. [Francis of Assisi]
http://www.kidbrothers.org                | http://www.fccwc.org
http://www.harvest.org/knowgod/index.htm  | http://www.needhim.org

-----------== Posted via the PFCGuide Web Newsreader ==----------
http://www.pfcguide.com/_newsgroups/group_list.asp

I was not trying to downplay new Oracle 8 features, was just wondering what
is driving the urge to use 8.0x drivers...

"Bruce Armstrong [TeamSybase]" <NOCANSPAM_bruce.armstrong@teamsybase.com>
wrote in message news:ls18nhSl$GA.298@forums.sybase.com...
> PMFJI, but password aging is an important one.
>
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:33:52 -0500,
>  in powersoft.public.powerbuilder.general
> Philip Salgannik <psalgannik@softrax.com> wrote:
> >And what feature of Oracle8 are you planning to "support", that you can
not
> >support using 073 driver?
> >
> >--
> >pbm_thisusuallydoesnothelp :-))
> >
> >"Jacek Furmankiewicz" <jfurmankiewicz@stssystems.com> wrote in message
> >news:qngT23El$GA.285@forums.sybase.com...
> >> >
> >> > BTW, what is it with Oracle drivers that forces you to go to 6.51 -
> >sounds
> >> > fishy...
> >> >
> >>
> >> We needed support for Oracle 8, so I started using the OR8 driver that
> >> comes with PB 6.5. It turns out it had a bug whereas it would send
> >> a column consisting of a single space (i.e. ' ') as a NULL, and it so
> >> happened this column does not allow nulls. It worked just fine with
O73.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, all the new OR8 and O84 drivers require PB 6.5.1,
> >> so here we are now...boo hoo hoo...and I really liked 6.5.0 - we've
been
> >> using it for a year and it was the most rock-solid release of PB ever
> >> (minus some menu GPFs when switching items visible/invisible, but we
> >> had workarounds for those)...
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Jacek Furmankiewicz
> >> STS Systems - http://www.stssystems.com
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> ---
> Bruce Armstrong [TeamSybase]
> mailto:Bruce.Armstrong@teamsybase.com
>
> Preach the gospel at all times. If necessary, use words. [Francis of
Assisi]
> http://www.kidbrothers.org                | http://www.fccwc.org
> http://www.harvest.org/knowgod/index.htm  | http://www.needhim.org
>
> -----------== Posted via the PFCGuide Web Newsreader ==----------
> http://www.pfcguide.com/_newsgroups/group_list.asp

Received just this message:

--------------------------------------
Subject: 
        [PowerBuilder-News] PowerBuilder 6.5x/Oracle 8.0.4 Native Driver
Update
   Date: 
        Thu, 23 Mar 2000 20:07:51 +0100
   From: 
        "Mirko Pawlak" <mirko.pawlak@pawlak-net.de>
     To: 
        powerbuilder-germany@eGroups.com




PowerBuilder 6.5x/Oracle 8.0.4 Native Driver Update (PBO8460.DLL) is
available at: 

ftp://psaftp.sybase.com/pub/private/pbpatch/pb65_weekly/o84new/pbo8460.zip

This zip file includes the 32-bit pbo8460.dll from the latest
PowerBuilder 6.5x EBF (Emergency Bug Fix) build and a readme.txt file,
which includes important requirements for using this EBF as well as
support and installation information. 


mfg

Mirko Pawlak
-----------------------

I didn't take it as downplaying the features.  I was just contributing one that
I know is a driver for moving to Net8 for a lot of my clients.  (Were using
Oracle8 but still at SQL*NET 2.3 until we get some of the Net8 issues resolved).

On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:33:59 -0500,
 in powersoft.public.powerbuilder.general
Philip Salgannik <NOSPAM_philena@rcn.com> wrote: 
>I was not trying to downplay new Oracle 8 features, was just wondering what
>is driving the urge to use 8.0x drivers...
>

---
Bruce Armstrong [TeamSybase]
mailto:Bruce.Armstrong@teamsybase.com

Preach the gospel at all times. If necessary, use words. [Francis of Assisi]
http://www.kidbrothers.org                | http://www.fccwc.org
http://www.harvest.org/knowgod/index.htm  | http://www.needhim.org

-----------== Posted via the PFCGuide Web Newsreader ==----------
http://www.pfcguide.com/_newsgroups/group_list.asp