Troubles with Identity columns (using ODBC/ASE @ Win2K/ASP) - URGENT, really

Hi everyone.

It seems like my application is f****d up because there seem to be some kind
of trouble in ODBC or Windows2000 or ASE or I really don't know.

Short history:
Application is using ASP (Intranet), and was originally developed at WinNT
4, using ASE 12 runing at WindowsNT. That was a year ago.

About 6 months ago we upgraded the servers to Windows2000...and the
application was running just fine after that.

However - last Friday we installed Windows2000 SP2 and the hell started.

First it showed that anytime we were retrieving "Money" type from the ASE
_AND_ the number was "natural" (=no digits after decimal point), we have got
these numbers divided by 100 in the output (=browser, after going through
the ODBC). In SQLAdvantage it returned correct values. Funny, eh? The money
types are in invoices and there was huge discount that day... ;)
This was solved by using ODBC driver that came with ASE 12.

But now I have problem that seems to be too much... It is somewhat similar -
the ODBC does not seem to like any Identity/Numeric value that ends with
"0". Instead it inserts _twice_ the same key (identity field) which does not
end with "0" but ends with "1".

For illustraion this is the result from the same command in ODBC (output
directly to the page in ASP) and SQLAdv. The command is simple "select
number, id from anytable". The Number is calculated "human key", this is key
(=is unique) as well but not for the application. There is the ID - which is
Number/Identity - important and now it looks like this:

ODBC:
Number
Id
      200100179 53050000000000000000000000549
      200100178 53050000000000000000000000548
      200100177 53050000000000000000000000547
      200100176 53050000000000000000000000546
      200100175 53050000000000000000000000545
      200100174 53050000000000000000000000544
      200100173 53050000000000000000000000543
      200100172 53050000000000000000000000542
      200100171 53050000000000000000000000541
      200100170 53050000000000000000000000541
      200100169 53050000000000000000000000539


See? See numbers 200100170, 200100171 and their respective IDs!!!!

The same in SQL Adv:
200100179     53050000000000000000000000549

200100178     53050000000000000000000000548

200100177     53050000000000000000000000547

200100176     53050000000000000000000000546

200100175     53050000000000000000000000545

200100174     53050000000000000000000000544

200100173     53050000000000000000000000543

200100172     53050000000000000000000000542

200100171     53050000000000000000000000541

200100170     53050000000000000000000000540

200100169     53050000000000000000000000539

Well and that's it. Since the application (of course) relies on the IDs it
is all just unusable.

------------------------------------------------------

List of versions used:

Windows2000 SP2 - both machines (ASP and ASE)

ODBC driver - 3.50.0010 - dated 11/7/2000 - although I copied the files from
the OpenClient EBF #9655

ASE 12 - Adaptive Server Enterprise/12.0.0.3/P/SWR 9646 ESD 2/NT (IX86)/OS
4.0/1689/32bit/OPT/Wed May 30 01:43:35 2001

------------------------------------------------------

Can someone help, please? Did someone run into the same/similar trouble?

Thank you in advance .... and yes, this is _very_ urgent

Dale





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DaleCooper@seznam.cz wrote...
> Hi everyone.
> 
> It seems like my application is f****d up because there seem to be some kind
> of trouble in ODBC or Windows2000 or ASE or I really don't know.
> 
> Short history:
> Application is using ASP (Intranet), and was originally developed at WinNT
> 4, using ASE 12 runing at WindowsNT. That was a year ago.
> 
> About 6 months ago we upgraded the servers to Windows2000...and the
> application was running just fine after that.
> 
> However - last Friday we installed Windows2000 SP2 and the hell started.
> 
> First it showed that anytime we were retrieving "Money" type from the ASE
> _AND_ the number was "natural" (=no digits after decimal point), we have got
> these numbers divided by 100 in the output (=browser, after going through
> the ODBC). In SQLAdvantage it returned correct values. Funny, eh? The money
> types are in invoices and there was huge discount that day... ;)
> This was solved by using ODBC driver that came with ASE 12.
> 
> But now I have problem that seems to be too much... It is somewhat similar -
> the ODBC does not seem to like any Identity/Numeric value that ends with
> "0". Instead it inserts _twice_ the same key (identity field) which does not
> end with "0" but ends with "1".
> 
> For illustraion this is the result from the same command in ODBC (output
> directly to the page in ASP) and SQLAdv. The command is simple "select
> number, id from anytable". The Number is calculated "human key", this is key
> (=is unique) as well but not for the application. There is the ID - which is
> Number/Identity - important and now it looks like this:
> 
> ODBC:
> Number
> Id
>       200100179 53050000000000000000000000549
>       200100178 53050000000000000000000000548
>       200100177 53050000000000000000000000547
>       200100176 53050000000000000000000000546
>       200100175 53050000000000000000000000545
>       200100174 53050000000000000000000000544
>       200100173 53050000000000000000000000543
>       200100172 53050000000000000000000000542
>       200100171 53050000000000000000000000541
>       200100170 53050000000000000000000000541
>       200100169 53050000000000000000000000539
> 
> 
> See? See numbers 200100170, 200100171 and their respective IDs!!!!
> 
> The same in SQL Adv:
> 200100179     53050000000000000000000000549
> 
> 200100178     53050000000000000000000000548
> 
> 200100177     53050000000000000000000000547
> 
> 200100176     53050000000000000000000000546
> 
> 200100175     53050000000000000000000000545
> 
> 200100174     53050000000000000000000000544
> 
> 200100173     53050000000000000000000000543
> 
> 200100172     53050000000000000000000000542
> 
> 200100171     53050000000000000000000000541
> 
> 200100170     53050000000000000000000000540
> 
> 200100169     53050000000000000000000000539
> 
> Well and that's it. Since the application (of course) relies on the IDs it
> is all just unusable.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> 
> List of versions used:
> 
> Windows2000 SP2 - both machines (ASP and ASE)
> 
> ODBC driver - 3.50.0010 - dated 11/7/2000 - although I copied the files from
> the OpenClient EBF #9655
> 
> ASE 12 - Adaptive Server Enterprise/12.0.0.3/P/SWR 9646 ESD 2/NT (IX86)/OS
> 4.0/1689/32bit/OPT/Wed May 30 01:43:35 2001
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Can someone help, please? Did someone run into the same/similar trouble?
> 
> Thank you in advance .... and yes, this is _very_ urgent

That's pretty odd.  I would try reinstalling the ODBC client.  Perhaps SP2 over wrote a DLL 
that put things out of whack.  After that I would open a case with Tech Support.  I 
couldn't find any existing cases close to yours.
-- 
Jim Egan [TeamSybase]
Senior Consultant
Sybase Professional Services

Sybase TechWave 2001 http://www.sybase.com/events/techwave2001
August 12th - 16th, San Diego
0
Jim
7/26/2001 3:07:33 AM
Thanks.

There was some evolution in the case meanwhile.

I completely reinstalled the client at the IIS (=client) server. I have
_correctly_ installed the OpenClient EBF #9655. My ODBC driver now
identifies as:

SYBASE ASE ODBC Driver - 3.60.00.21 - SYODASE.DLL - 07/12/2000

And I run the sql script "sycsp11.sql/11.1.1/P/PC Intel/Windows NT
3.5/Windows95 4.0/1/OPT/Aug 18 1999 10:22:16" against the database and
restarted ASE. In the case some error occurs the driver now says it is
"[MERANT]" not "[Intersolv]"...

It _seems_ like some problems disappeared. However some strange way. It
still does not return correct values when returning Numeric(32) [or
generally Numeric(>18)] values in the SELECT command. When I do SELECT from
the view where I convert Numeric(32) to Char(32) everything is OK. When I
SELECT the values directly from the table I get error "[MERANT][ODBC Sybase
driver]Error in row." at the row with number "200100170" from the example I
gave last time. So I assume the problem persists only the driver behaves
differently - it does not repeat the value from previous row but says
"Error" and stops.

Also, and old problem with calling stored procedures returning output
parameters reappeared. _Some_ of them just don't execute. Weird thing is
that _some_ of them, not all. For example 2 procedures doing basically the
same work and returning the same output parameter (char(32), where
@@identity is stored) behave differently. One runs the other one stops.
Weird.
If the procedure runs in trouble, at the line in ASP with cmdCommand.Execute
is throws error:
-------------------------------
Provider error '80040e21'

Multiple-step OLE DB operation generated errors. Check each OLE DB status
value, if available. No work was done.

-------------------------------

And this raises another question. OLE DB??? I did not intentionally install
OLE DB driver at all!!!

For the time being I converted some SELECTs and views to return converted
Numeric to Char so that we can use the application at least partly. But this
is not the solution because converting ALL the commands and views would take
about a month - and we have some other things to do as well :)

I only pray that the clients where our systems are installed won't do the
upgrade... We told them not to do so but one never knows...

If this sounds familiar to anyone, please help.
Regards,
Dale

"Jim Egan" <dbaguru@eganomics.com> p�e v diskusn�m p��sp�vku
news:MPG.15c937648772da1d98b585@forums.sybase.com...
> DaleCooper@seznam.cz wrote...
> > Hi everyone.
> >
> > It seems like my application is f****d up because there seem to be some
kind
> > of trouble in ODBC or Windows2000 or ASE or I really don't know.
> >
> > Short history:
> > Application is using ASP (Intranet), and was originally developed at
WinNT
> > 4, using ASE 12 runing at WindowsNT. That was a year ago.
> >
> > About 6 months ago we upgraded the servers to Windows2000...and the
> > application was running just fine after that.
> >
> > However - last Friday we installed Windows2000 SP2 and the hell started.
> >
> > First it showed that anytime we were retrieving "Money" type from the
ASE
> > _AND_ the number was "natural" (=no digits after decimal point), we have
got
> > these numbers divided by 100 in the output (=browser, after going
through
> > the ODBC). In SQLAdvantage it returned correct values. Funny, eh? The
money
> > types are in invoices and there was huge discount that day... ;)
> > This was solved by using ODBC driver that came with ASE 12.
> >
> > But now I have problem that seems to be too much... It is somewhat
similar -
> > the ODBC does not seem to like any Identity/Numeric value that ends with
> > "0". Instead it inserts _twice_ the same key (identity field) which does
not
> > end with "0" but ends with "1".
> >
> > For illustraion this is the result from the same command in ODBC (output
> > directly to the page in ASP) and SQLAdv. The command is simple "select
> > number, id from anytable". The Number is calculated "human key", this is
key
> > (=is unique) as well but not for the application. There is the ID -
which is
> > Number/Identity - important and now it looks like this:
> >
> > ODBC:
> > Number
> > Id
> >       200100179 53050000000000000000000000549
> >       200100178 53050000000000000000000000548
> >       200100177 53050000000000000000000000547
> >       200100176 53050000000000000000000000546
> >       200100175 53050000000000000000000000545
> >       200100174 53050000000000000000000000544
> >       200100173 53050000000000000000000000543
> >       200100172 53050000000000000000000000542
> >       200100171 53050000000000000000000000541
> >       200100170 53050000000000000000000000541
> >       200100169 53050000000000000000000000539
> >
> >
> > See? See numbers 200100170, 200100171 and their respective IDs!!!!
> >
> > The same in SQL Adv:
> > 200100179     53050000000000000000000000549
> >
> > 200100178     53050000000000000000000000548
> >
> > 200100177     53050000000000000000000000547
> >
> > 200100176     53050000000000000000000000546
> >
> > 200100175     53050000000000000000000000545
> >
> > 200100174     53050000000000000000000000544
> >
> > 200100173     53050000000000000000000000543
> >
> > 200100172     53050000000000000000000000542
> >
> > 200100171     53050000000000000000000000541
> >
> > 200100170     53050000000000000000000000540
> >
> > 200100169     53050000000000000000000000539
> >
> > Well and that's it. Since the application (of course) relies on the IDs
it
> > is all just unusable.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > List of versions used:
> >
> > Windows2000 SP2 - both machines (ASP and ASE)
> >
> > ODBC driver - 3.50.0010 - dated 11/7/2000 - although I copied the files
from
> > the OpenClient EBF #9655
> >
> > ASE 12 - Adaptive Server Enterprise/12.0.0.3/P/SWR 9646 ESD 2/NT
(IX86)/OS
> > 4.0/1689/32bit/OPT/Wed May 30 01:43:35 2001
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Can someone help, please? Did someone run into the same/similar trouble?
> >
> > Thank you in advance .... and yes, this is _very_ urgent
>
> That's pretty odd.  I would try reinstalling the ODBC client.  Perhaps SP2
over wrote a DLL
> that put things out of whack.  After that I would open a case with Tech
Support.  I
> couldn't find any existing cases close to yours.
> --
> Jim Egan [TeamSybase]
> Senior Consultant
> Sybase Professional Services
>
> Sybase TechWave 2001 http://www.sybase.com/events/techwave2001
> August 12th - 16th, San Diego


0
Dale
7/26/2001 6:05:46 PM
I have the the exactly same problems :

Multiple-step OLE DB operation generated errors. Check each OLE DB 
statusvalue, if available. 
can somebody help me,please?



victor fan
-------------------------------

0
Vicor_fan
8/22/2001 1:38:45 PM
We have the Same Problem connecting to Sybase Server 11.9 using ADO.
We are using Sybase ODBC driver 3.01 with MDAC 2.5. 
The OLE-DB provider we're trying to use is MSDASQL for ODBC. 
The error encountered is "multiple-step OLE DB" when looping 
thru a recordset where a column  is based on an Identity column.
Any info is appreciated.
0
Ronika
8/30/2001 2:41:39 PM
My experience with "multiple-step OLE DB" has been against a MySQL 
database. I generally encountered it when there was an incompatability 
between a database datatype and a Microsoft / ADO datatype. Some examples 
would be:

1. Identity columns were a 64-bit BIGINT in MySQL. So were some of the 
values returned by some MySQL functions. ADO could only handle a 32-bit 
integer so you had to cast these large numbers to a different datatype.

2. MySQL's default date was 0000-00-00 00:00:00. ADO didn't like this. I 
had to use NULL dates.

3. Inserting a string longer than a database field would return this error. 
i.e - Trying to insert 25 characters into a VARCHAR(20). Once I got burned 
because in my debug statements the variable appeared short when it was 
actually right-padded with spaces that I could not see. Trimming the value 
solved the problem.

These are just some general examples that may or may not help you with your 
particular problem. I just thought I would throw this information out to 
see if it might be useful. I just started using Sybase this week so I can't 
base my response on specific experiences with it.
0
Darryl_Caillouet
9/7/2001 3:11:17 AM
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