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Hello

My team most time developed with ruby language.
These recent days we took  time reading the book Learning Perl 6.
Then we consider to take an actual project to learn more deeply.
What project do you suggest for us to get involve into?

Regards,
Tom

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello</div><div><br></div><div>My team most time deve=
loped with ruby language.</div><div>These recent days we took=C2=A0 time re=
ading the book Learning Perl 6.</div><div>Then we consider to take an actua=
l project to learn more deeply.</div><div>What project do you suggest for u=
s to get=C2=A0<span class=3D"gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang=
=3D"en"><span title=3D"" class=3D"gmail-">involve into?</span></span></div>=
<div><span class=3D"gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang=3D"en"><=
span title=3D"" class=3D"gmail-"><br></span></span></div><div><span class=
=3D"gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang=3D"en"><span title=3D"" =
class=3D"gmail-">Regards,</span></span></div><div><span class=3D"gmail-tlid=
-translation gmail-translation" lang=3D"en"><span title=3D"" class=3D"gmail=
-">Tom<br></span></span>

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On 2019-12-05 23:07, Tom Blackwood wrote:
> Hello
>=20
> My team most time developed with ruby language.
> These recent days we took=C2=A0 time reading the book Learning Perl 6.
> Then we consider to take an actual project to learn more deeply.
> What project do you suggest for us to get involve into?
>=20
> Regards,
> Tom

Hi Tom,

After you learn Raku, you will be only using it for
things you need done.  So just find something you need
done and just jump in with both feet!

Or just rewrite some crappy code that is driving
you nuts!

-T
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Try something in the most wanted repo:
https://github.com/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/modules.=
md
That way you will learn _and_ help the community.

El vie., 6 dic. 2019 a las 8:11, Tom Blackwood (<tom.blkwood@gmail.com>)
escribi=C3=B3:

> Hello
>
> My team most time developed with ruby language.
> These recent days we took  time reading the book Learning Perl 6.
> Then we consider to take an actual project to learn more deeply.
> What project do you suggest for us to get involve into?
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>


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JJ

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Try something in the most wanted repo: <a href=3D"https://=
github.com/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/modules.md">http=
s://github.com/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/modules.md</=
a> That way you will learn _and_ help the community.<br></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">El vie., 6 dic. 201=
9 a las 8:11, Tom Blackwood (&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tom.blkwood@gmail.com">t=
om.blkwood@gmail.com</a>&gt;) escribi=C3=B3:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello</div><div><br></di=
v><div>My team most time developed with ruby language.</div><div>These rece=
nt days we took=C2=A0 time reading the book Learning Perl 6.</div><div>Then=
 we consider to take an actual project to learn more deeply.</div><div>What=
 project do you suggest for us to get=C2=A0<span lang=3D"en"><span title=3D=
"">involve into?</span></span></div><div><span lang=3D"en"><span title=3D""=
><br></span></span></div><div><span lang=3D"en"><span title=3D"">Regards,</=
span></span></div><div><span lang=3D"en"><span title=3D"">Tom<br></span></s=
pan>

</div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
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Thanks, I'll check it out!

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 5:50 PM JJ Merelo <jjmerelo@gmail.com> wrote:

> Try something in the most wanted repo:
> https://github.com/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/module=
s.md
> That way you will learn _and_ help the community.
>
> El vie., 6 dic. 2019 a las 8:11, Tom Blackwood (<tom.blkwood@gmail.com>)
> escribi=C3=B3:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> My team most time developed with ruby language.
>> These recent days we took  time reading the book Learning Perl 6.
>> Then we consider to take an actual project to learn more deeply.
>> What project do you suggest for us to get involve into?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tom
>>
>
>
> --
> JJ
>

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<div>Thanks, I&#39;ll check it out!</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 5:50 PM JJ M=
erelo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjmerelo@gmail.com">jjmerelo@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Try somethi=
ng in the most wanted repo: <a href=3D"https://github.com/perl6/perl6-most-=
wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/modules.md" target=3D"_blank">https://github=
..com/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/modules.md</a> That wa=
y you will learn _and_ help the community.<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">El vie., 6 dic. 2019 a las 8:=
11, Tom Blackwood (&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tom.blkwood@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">tom.blkwood@gmail.com</a>&gt;) escribi=C3=B3:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello</div><div>=
<br></div><div>My team most time developed with ruby language.</div><div>Th=
ese recent days we took=C2=A0 time reading the book Learning Perl 6.</div><=
div>Then we consider to take an actual project to learn more deeply.</div><=
div>What project do you suggest for us to get=C2=A0<span lang=3D"en"><span =
title=3D"">involve into?</span></span></div><div><span lang=3D"en"><span ti=
tle=3D""><br></span></span></div><div><span lang=3D"en"><span title=3D"">Re=
gards,</span></span></div><div><span lang=3D"en"><span title=3D"">Tom<br></=
span></span>

</div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr">JJ</div>
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12/6/2019 9:57:57 AM
Hi Tom,

My vote would be for someone to take on the task of writing
"mailing-list" software in Raku/Perl6, and/or writing
"mailing-list-archiving" software (e.g. an NNTP server) in Raku/Perl6.
First of all, for your group this would be a relatively-high profile
project, with the potential for hundreds or even thousands of
companies adopting such a module for their own institutional or
company needs.

Regarding the "archiving" module in particular, you could see how the
Perl mailing lists are archived, and easily imagine how they might be
improved. There would be a need to access data from a database, filter
out spam, organize the data by date and/or thread, and serve up the
data in a web-accessible format. Selfishly, I would love to see a
searchable archive of every Perl6/Raku email ever written.

I've communicated with Ask Bjorn Hansen about the Perl software
presently running the NNTP archive (www.nntp.perl.org), in particular
the Perl6-Users mailing list. Ask Bjorn Hansen says the NNTP archive
runs on Colobus which is written in Perl, with commits going all the
way back to 2001. So why not rewrite it in Raku/Perl6?? In particular,
I was hoping to see a better "subject threading" algorithm, since with
Colobus (on occasion) emails from different "eras" are lumped together
in the same thread (example: emails from 2010 showing up in Sept. 2019
threads).

I don't know if your group has an interest in writing a full-blown
NNTP server, but below are resources for Raku/Perl6, Python, and R.
You can decide for yourself if the Raku/Perl6 resources need
improving:

Raku/Perl6:
https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/
https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/
https://trainedmonkey.com/projects/colobus/
https://github.com/abh/colobus

Python:
https://www.python.org/community/lists/
https://mail.python.org/archives/
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

R:
https://www.r-project.org/mail.html
https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo
https://r.789695.n4.nabble.com


HTH, Bill.



On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:59 AM Tom Blackwood <tom.blkwood@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, I'll check it out!
>
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 5:50 PM JJ Merelo <jjmerelo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Try something in the most wanted repo: https://github.com/perl6/perl6-mo=
st-wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/modules.md That way you will learn _and_ =
help the community.
>>
>> El vie., 6 dic. 2019 a las 8:11, Tom Blackwood (<tom.blkwood@gmail.com>)=
 escribi=C3=B3:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> My team most time developed with ruby language.
>>> These recent days we took  time reading the book Learning Perl 6.
>>> Then we consider to take an actual project to learn more deeply.
>>> What project do you suggest for us to get involve into?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> JJ
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Hello William,

We are actually a small team making the primary job for big data/machine
learning etc.
We know nothing about mailing list gateway and NNTP stuff.
But thanks for your suggestion, I will take a took at the references you
provided.

Regards
Tom


On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 3:30 AM William Michels <wjm1@caa.columbia.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Tom,
>
> My vote would be for someone to take on the task of writing
> "mailing-list" software in Raku/Perl6, and/or writing
> "mailing-list-archiving" software (e.g. an NNTP server) in Raku/Perl6.
> First of all, for your group this would be a relatively-high profile
> project, with the potential for hundreds or even thousands of
> companies adopting such a module for their own institutional or
> company needs.
>
> Regarding the "archiving" module in particular, you could see how the
> Perl mailing lists are archived, and easily imagine how they might be
> improved. There would be a need to access data from a database, filter
> out spam, organize the data by date and/or thread, and serve up the
> data in a web-accessible format. Selfishly, I would love to see a
> searchable archive of every Perl6/Raku email ever written.
>
> I've communicated with Ask Bjorn Hansen about the Perl software
> presently running the NNTP archive (www.nntp.perl.org), in particular
> the Perl6-Users mailing list. Ask Bjorn Hansen says the NNTP archive
> runs on Colobus which is written in Perl, with commits going all the
> way back to 2001. So why not rewrite it in Raku/Perl6?? In particular,
> I was hoping to see a better "subject threading" algorithm, since with
> Colobus (on occasion) emails from different "eras" are lumped together
> in the same thread (example: emails from 2010 showing up in Sept. 2019
> threads).
>
> I don't know if your group has an interest in writing a full-blown
> NNTP server, but below are resources for Raku/Perl6, Python, and R.
> You can decide for yourself if the Raku/Perl6 resources need
> improving:
>
> Raku/Perl6:
> https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/
> https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/
> https://trainedmonkey.com/projects/colobus/
> https://github.com/abh/colobus
>
> Python:
> https://www.python.org/community/lists/
> https://mail.python.org/archives/
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo
>
> R:
> https://www.r-project.org/mail.html
> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo
> https://r.789695.n4.nabble.com
>
>
> HTH, Bill.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:59 AM Tom Blackwood <tom.blkwood@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, I'll check it out!
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 5:50 PM JJ Merelo <jjmerelo@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Try something in the most wanted repo:
> https://github.com/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/module=
s.md
> That way you will learn _and_ help the community.
> >>
> >> El vie., 6 dic. 2019 a las 8:11, Tom Blackwood (<tom.blkwood@gmail.com=
>)
> escribi=C3=B3:
> >>>
> >>> Hello
> >>>
> >>> My team most time developed with ruby language.
> >>> These recent days we took  time reading the book Learning Perl 6.
> >>> Then we consider to take an actual project to learn more deeply.
> >>> What project do you suggest for us to get involve into?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> JJ
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello William,</div><div><br></div><div>We are actual=
ly a small team making the primary job for big data/machine learning etc.<b=
r></div><div>We know nothing about mailing list gateway and NNTP stuff.<br>=
</div><div>But thanks for your suggestion, I will take a took at the refere=
nces you provided.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Tom<br></div>=
<div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 3:30 AM William Michels &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:wjm1@caa.columbia.edu">wjm1@caa.columbia.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Tom,<br>
<br>
My vote would be for someone to take on the task of writing<br>
&quot;mailing-list&quot; software in Raku/Perl6, and/or writing<br>
&quot;mailing-list-archiving&quot; software (e.g. an NNTP server) in Raku/P=
erl6.<br>
First of all, for your group this would be a relatively-high profile<br>
project, with the potential for hundreds or even thousands of<br>
companies adopting such a module for their own institutional or<br>
company needs.<br>
<br>
Regarding the &quot;archiving&quot; module in particular, you could see how=
 the<br>
Perl mailing lists are archived, and easily imagine how they might be<br>
improved. There would be a need to access data from a database, filter<br>
out spam, organize the data by date and/or thread, and serve up the<br>
data in a web-accessible format. Selfishly, I would love to see a<br>
searchable archive of every Perl6/Raku email ever written.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve communicated with Ask Bjorn Hansen about the Perl software<br>
presently running the NNTP archive (<a href=3D"http://www.nntp.perl.org" re=
l=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.nntp.perl.org</a>), in particular<br=
>
the Perl6-Users mailing list. Ask Bjorn Hansen says the NNTP archive<br>
runs on Colobus which is written in Perl, with commits going all the<br>
way back to 2001. So why not rewrite it in Raku/Perl6?? In particular,<br>
I was hoping to see a better &quot;subject threading&quot; algorithm, since=
 with<br>
Colobus (on occasion) emails from different &quot;eras&quot; are lumped tog=
ether<br>
in the same thread (example: emails from 2010 showing up in Sept. 2019<br>
threads).<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t know if your group has an interest in writing a full-blown<br>
NNTP server, but below are resources for Raku/Perl6, Python, and R.<br>
You can decide for yourself if the Raku/Perl6 resources need<br>
improving:<br>
<br>
Raku/Perl6:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/</=
a><br>
<a href=3D"https://trainedmonkey.com/projects/colobus/" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">https://trainedmonkey.com/projects/colobus/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://github.com/abh/colobus" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://github.com/abh/colobus</a><br>
<br>
Python:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.python.org/community/lists/" rel=3D"noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://www.python.org/community/lists/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://mail.python.org/archives/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"=
_blank">https://mail.python.org/archives/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank">https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br>
<br>
R:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.r-project.org/mail.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">https://www.r-project.org/mail.html</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://r.789695.n4.nabble.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://r.789695.n4.nabble.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
HTH, Bill.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:59 AM Tom Blackwood &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tom.blkw=
ood@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tom.blkwood@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks, I&#39;ll check it out!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 5:50 PM JJ Merelo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjmerel=
o@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jjmerelo@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Try something in the most wanted repo: <a href=3D"https://github.c=
om/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/modules.md" rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/ma=
ster/most-wanted/modules.md</a> That way you will learn _and_ help the comm=
unity.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; El vie., 6 dic. 2019 a las 8:11, Tom Blackwood (&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:tom.blkwood@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tom.blkwood@gmail.com</a>&gt;)=
 escribi=C3=B3:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hello<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; My team most time developed with ruby language.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; These recent days we took=C2=A0 time reading the book Learning=
 Perl 6.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Then we consider to take an actual project to learn more deepl=
y.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; What project do you suggest for us to get involve into?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Tom<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; JJ<br>
</blockquote></div>

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As a matter of fact, there are very few data-processing libraries in Raku.
Dealing with big files, stream processing, anything related to AI or
machine learning would be great. There are very few neural nets
implemented, for instance, and no convolutional or GAN or other popular
algorithms like XGBOOST.

Cheers

El dom., 8 dic. 2019 a las 4:22, Tom Blackwood (<tom.blkwood@gmail.com>)
escribi=C3=B3:

> Hello William,
>
> We are actually a small team making the primary job for big data/machine
> learning etc.
> We know nothing about mailing list gateway and NNTP stuff.
> But thanks for your suggestion, I will take a took at the references you
> provided.
>
> Regards
> Tom
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 3:30 AM William Michels <wjm1@caa.columbia.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> My vote would be for someone to take on the task of writing
>> "mailing-list" software in Raku/Perl6, and/or writing
>> "mailing-list-archiving" software (e.g. an NNTP server) in Raku/Perl6.
>> First of all, for your group this would be a relatively-high profile
>> project, with the potential for hundreds or even thousands of
>> companies adopting such a module for their own institutional or
>> company needs.
>>
>> Regarding the "archiving" module in particular, you could see how the
>> Perl mailing lists are archived, and easily imagine how they might be
>> improved. There would be a need to access data from a database, filter
>> out spam, organize the data by date and/or thread, and serve up the
>> data in a web-accessible format. Selfishly, I would love to see a
>> searchable archive of every Perl6/Raku email ever written.
>>
>> I've communicated with Ask Bjorn Hansen about the Perl software
>> presently running the NNTP archive (www.nntp.perl.org), in particular
>> the Perl6-Users mailing list. Ask Bjorn Hansen says the NNTP archive
>> runs on Colobus which is written in Perl, with commits going all the
>> way back to 2001. So why not rewrite it in Raku/Perl6?? In particular,
>> I was hoping to see a better "subject threading" algorithm, since with
>> Colobus (on occasion) emails from different "eras" are lumped together
>> in the same thread (example: emails from 2010 showing up in Sept. 2019
>> threads).
>>
>> I don't know if your group has an interest in writing a full-blown
>> NNTP server, but below are resources for Raku/Perl6, Python, and R.
>> You can decide for yourself if the Raku/Perl6 resources need
>> improving:
>>
>> Raku/Perl6:
>> https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/
>> https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/
>> https://trainedmonkey.com/projects/colobus/
>> https://github.com/abh/colobus
>>
>> Python:
>> https://www.python.org/community/lists/
>> https://mail.python.org/archives/
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo
>>
>> R:
>> https://www.r-project.org/mail.html
>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo
>> https://r.789695.n4.nabble.com
>>
>>
>> HTH, Bill.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:59 AM Tom Blackwood <tom.blkwood@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks, I'll check it out!
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 5:50 PM JJ Merelo <jjmerelo@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Try something in the most wanted repo:
>> https://github.com/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/modul=
es.md
>> That way you will learn _and_ help the community.
>> >>
>> >> El vie., 6 dic. 2019 a las 8:11, Tom Blackwood (<tom.blkwood@gmail.co=
m>)
>> escribi=C3=B3:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello
>> >>>
>> >>> My team most time developed with ruby language.
>> >>> These recent days we took  time reading the book Learning Perl 6.
>> >>> Then we consider to take an actual project to learn more deeply.
>> >>> What project do you suggest for us to get involve into?
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Tom
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> JJ
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>As a matter of fact, there are very few data-processi=
ng libraries in Raku. Dealing with big files, stream processing, anything r=
elated to AI or machine learning would be great. There are very few neural =
nets implemented, for instance, and no convolutional or GAN or other popula=
r algorithms like XGBOOST.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers<br></div></div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">El dom.=
, 8 dic. 2019 a las 4:22, Tom Blackwood (&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tom.blkwood@=
gmail.com">tom.blkwood@gmail.com</a>&gt;) escribi=C3=B3:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello Willia=
m,</div><div><br></div><div>We are actually a small team making the primary=
 job for big data/machine learning etc.<br></div><div>We know nothing about=
 mailing list gateway and NNTP stuff.<br></div><div>But thanks for your sug=
gestion, I will take a took at the references you provided.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Regards</div><div>Tom<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 8, 2019=
 at 3:30 AM William Michels &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wjm1@caa.columbia.edu" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">wjm1@caa.columbia.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Tom,<br>
<br>
My vote would be for someone to take on the task of writing<br>
&quot;mailing-list&quot; software in Raku/Perl6, and/or writing<br>
&quot;mailing-list-archiving&quot; software (e.g. an NNTP server) in Raku/P=
erl6.<br>
First of all, for your group this would be a relatively-high profile<br>
project, with the potential for hundreds or even thousands of<br>
companies adopting such a module for their own institutional or<br>
company needs.<br>
<br>
Regarding the &quot;archiving&quot; module in particular, you could see how=
 the<br>
Perl mailing lists are archived, and easily imagine how they might be<br>
improved. There would be a need to access data from a database, filter<br>
out spam, organize the data by date and/or thread, and serve up the<br>
data in a web-accessible format. Selfishly, I would love to see a<br>
searchable archive of every Perl6/Raku email ever written.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve communicated with Ask Bjorn Hansen about the Perl software<br>
presently running the NNTP archive (<a href=3D"http://www.nntp.perl.org" re=
l=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.nntp.perl.org</a>), in particular<br=
>
the Perl6-Users mailing list. Ask Bjorn Hansen says the NNTP archive<br>
runs on Colobus which is written in Perl, with commits going all the<br>
way back to 2001. So why not rewrite it in Raku/Perl6?? In particular,<br>
I was hoping to see a better &quot;subject threading&quot; algorithm, since=
 with<br>
Colobus (on occasion) emails from different &quot;eras&quot; are lumped tog=
ether<br>
in the same thread (example: emails from 2010 showing up in Sept. 2019<br>
threads).<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t know if your group has an interest in writing a full-blown<br>
NNTP server, but below are resources for Raku/Perl6, Python, and R.<br>
You can decide for yourself if the Raku/Perl6 resources need<br>
improving:<br>
<br>
Raku/Perl6:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/</=
a><br>
<a href=3D"https://trainedmonkey.com/projects/colobus/" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">https://trainedmonkey.com/projects/colobus/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://github.com/abh/colobus" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://github.com/abh/colobus</a><br>
<br>
Python:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.python.org/community/lists/" rel=3D"noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://www.python.org/community/lists/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://mail.python.org/archives/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"=
_blank">https://mail.python.org/archives/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank">https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br>
<br>
R:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.r-project.org/mail.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">https://www.r-project.org/mail.html</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://r.789695.n4.nabble.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://r.789695.n4.nabble.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
HTH, Bill.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:59 AM Tom Blackwood &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tom.blkw=
ood@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tom.blkwood@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks, I&#39;ll check it out!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 5:50 PM JJ Merelo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjmerel=
o@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jjmerelo@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Try something in the most wanted repo: <a href=3D"https://github.c=
om/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/modules.md" rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/ma=
ster/most-wanted/modules.md</a> That way you will learn _and_ help the comm=
unity.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; El vie., 6 dic. 2019 a las 8:11, Tom Blackwood (&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:tom.blkwood@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tom.blkwood@gmail.com</a>&gt;)=
 escribi=C3=B3:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hello<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; My team most time developed with ruby language.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; These recent days we took=C2=A0 time reading the book Learning=
 Perl 6.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Then we consider to take an actual project to learn more deepl=
y.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; What project do you suggest for us to get involve into?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Tom<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; JJ<br>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature">JJ</div>

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Raku libraries for Keras/Tensorflow, or AWS, or Kubernetes, leveraging the n=
ovel features of Raku, could be killer apps for Raku. Ambitious, though.

Peter Scott

> On Dec 7, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Tom Blackwood <tom.blkwood@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Hello William,
>=20
> We are actually a small team making the primary job for big data/machine l=
earning etc.
> We know nothing about mailing list gateway and NNTP stuff.
> But thanks for your suggestion, I will take a took at the references you p=
rovided.
>=20
> Regards
> Tom
>=20
>=20
>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 3:30 AM William Michels <wjm1@caa.columbia.edu> wr=
ote:
>> Hi Tom,
>>=20
>> My vote would be for someone to take on the task of writing
>> "mailing-list" software in Raku/Perl6, and/or writing
>> "mailing-list-archiving" software (e.g. an NNTP server) in Raku/Perl6.
>> First of all, for your group this would be a relatively-high profile
>> project, with the potential for hundreds or even thousands of
>> companies adopting such a module for their own institutional or
>> company needs.
>>=20
>> Regarding the "archiving" module in particular, you could see how the
>> Perl mailing lists are archived, and easily imagine how they might be
>> improved. There would be a need to access data from a database, filter
>> out spam, organize the data by date and/or thread, and serve up the
>> data in a web-accessible format. Selfishly, I would love to see a
>> searchable archive of every Perl6/Raku email ever written.
>>=20
>> I've communicated with Ask Bjorn Hansen about the Perl software
>> presently running the NNTP archive (www.nntp.perl.org), in particular
>> the Perl6-Users mailing list. Ask Bjorn Hansen says the NNTP archive
>> runs on Colobus which is written in Perl, with commits going all the
>> way back to 2001. So why not rewrite it in Raku/Perl6?? In particular,
>> I was hoping to see a better "subject threading" algorithm, since with
>> Colobus (on occasion) emails from different "eras" are lumped together
>> in the same thread (example: emails from 2010 showing up in Sept. 2019
>> threads).
>>=20
>> I don't know if your group has an interest in writing a full-blown
>> NNTP server, but below are resources for Raku/Perl6, Python, and R.
>> You can decide for yourself if the Raku/Perl6 resources need
>> improving:
>>=20
>> Raku/Perl6:
>> https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/
>> https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/
>> https://trainedmonkey.com/projects/colobus/
>> https://github.com/abh/colobus
>>=20
>> Python:
>> https://www.python.org/community/lists/
>> https://mail.python.org/archives/
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo
>>=20
>> R:
>> https://www.r-project.org/mail.html
>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo
>> https://r.789695.n4.nabble.com
>>=20
>>=20
>> HTH, Bill.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:59 AM Tom Blackwood <tom.blkwood@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>> >
>> > Thanks, I'll check it out!
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 5:50 PM JJ Merelo <jjmerelo@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Try something in the most wanted repo: https://github.com/perl6/perl6-=
most-wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/modules.md That way you will learn _and_=
 help the community.
>> >>
>> >> El vie., 6 dic. 2019 a las 8:11, Tom Blackwood (<tom.blkwood@gmail.com=
>) escribi=C3=B3:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello
>> >>>
>> >>> My team most time developed with ruby language.
>> >>> These recent days we took  time reading the book Learning Perl 6.
>> >>> Then we consider to take an actual project to learn more deeply.
>> >>> What project do you suggest for us to get involve into?
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Tom
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> JJ

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Raku libraries for Keras/Tensorflow, or AWS=
, or Kubernetes, leveraging the novel features of Raku, could be killer apps=
 for Raku. Ambitious, though.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Peter Scott</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 7, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Tom Bla=
ckwood &lt;tom.blkwood@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello Wi=
lliam,</div><div><br></div><div>We are actually a small team making the prim=
ary job for big data/machine learning etc.<br></div><div>We know nothing abo=
ut mailing list gateway and NNTP stuff.<br></div><div>But thanks for your su=
ggestion, I will take a took at the references you provided.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Regards</div><div>Tom<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 a=
t 3:30 AM William Michels &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wjm1@caa.columbia.edu">wjm1@=
caa.columbia.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing-left:1ex">Hi Tom,<br>
<br>
My vote would be for someone to take on the task of writing<br>
"mailing-list" software in Raku/Perl6, and/or writing<br>
"mailing-list-archiving" software (e.g. an NNTP server) in Raku/Perl6.<br>
First of all, for your group this would be a relatively-high profile<br>
project, with the potential for hundreds or even thousands of<br>
companies adopting such a module for their own institutional or<br>
company needs.<br>
<br>
Regarding the "archiving" module in particular, you could see how the<br>
Perl mailing lists are archived, and easily imagine how they might be<br>
improved. There would be a need to access data from a database, filter<br>
out spam, organize the data by date and/or thread, and serve up the<br>
data in a web-accessible format. Selfishly, I would love to see a<br>
searchable archive of every Perl6/Raku email ever written.<br>
<br>
I've communicated with Ask Bjorn Hansen about the Perl software<br>
presently running the NNTP archive (<a href=3D"http://www.nntp.perl.org" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.nntp.perl.org</a>), in particular<br>
the Perl6-Users mailing list. Ask Bjorn Hansen says the NNTP archive<br>
runs on Colobus which is written in Perl, with commits going all the<br>
way back to 2001. So why not rewrite it in Raku/Perl6?? In particular,<br>
I was hoping to see a better "subject threading" algorithm, since with<br>
Colobus (on occasion) emails from different "eras" are lumped together<br>
in the same thread (example: emails from 2010 showing up in Sept. 2019<br>
threads).<br>
<br>
I don't know if your group has an interest in writing a full-blown<br>
NNTP server, but below are resources for Raku/Perl6, Python, and R.<br>
You can decide for yourself if the Raku/Perl6 resources need<br>
improving:<br>
<br>
Raku/Perl6:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_b=
lank">https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/</a>=
<br>
<a href=3D"https://trainedmonkey.com/projects/colobus/" rel=3D"noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">https://trainedmonkey.com/projects/colobus/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://github.com/abh/colobus" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://github.com/abh/colobus</a><br>
<br>
Python:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.python.org/community/lists/" rel=3D"noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">https://www.python.org/community/lists/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://mail.python.org/archives/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">https://mail.python.org/archives/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo" rel=3D"noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br>
<br>
R:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.r-project.org/mail.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">https://www.r-project.org/mail.html</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://r.789695.n4.nabble.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://r.789695.n4.nabble.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
HTH, Bill.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:59 AM Tom Blackwood &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tom.blkwo=
od@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tom.blkwood@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks, I'll check it out!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 5:50 PM JJ Merelo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjmerelo=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jjmerelo@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Try something in the most wanted repo: <a href=3D"https://github.co=
m/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/modules.md" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/maste=
r/most-wanted/modules.md</a> That way you will learn _and_ help the communit=
y.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; El vie., 6 dic. 2019 a las 8:11, Tom Blackwood (&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:tom.blkwood@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tom.blkwood@gmail.com</a>&gt;) e=
scribi=C3=B3:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hello<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; My team most time developed with ruby language.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; These recent days we took&nbsp; time reading the book Learning P=
erl 6.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Then we consider to take an actual project to learn more deeply=
..<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; What project do you suggest for us to get involve into?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Tom<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; JJ<br>
</blockquote></div>
</div></blockquote></body></html>=

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Hello,
I started writing a raw interface to Tensorflow, but I stopped for various
reasons [=C2=B9]. If anyone wants to work on it I can help and/or share wha=
t
I've produced so far.

[=C2=B9] three main reasons:
* Ethics: I wouldn't like to be part of an effort to control people and
free speech;
* I don't trust how Google manages its projects (Just google for "google
graveyard". I've been burned twice by Google dropping its products, so
pardon me if I'm wary)
* Lack of experience in the specific field of machine learning: while I
understand the basics and I know how to interface C and Raku, I know that
the Tensorflow C API is seldom used directly. Programmers usually work with
the Python interface, which is much more extensive, but as far as I know,
poorly documented.
Those are just my opinions and I'm happy to change my opinions when facts
contradict them ;-)

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 12:50 PM Peter Scott <peter@psdt.com> wrote:

> Raku libraries for Keras/Tensorflow, or AWS, or Kubernetes, leveraging th=
e
> novel features of Raku, could be killer apps for Raku. Ambitious, though.
>
> Peter Scott
>
> On Dec 7, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Tom Blackwood <tom.blkwood@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> Hello William,
>
> We are actually a small team making the primary job for big data/machine
> learning etc.
> We know nothing about mailing list gateway and NNTP stuff.
> But thanks for your suggestion, I will take a took at the references you
> provided.
>
> Regards
> Tom
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 3:30 AM William Michels <wjm1@caa.columbia.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> My vote would be for someone to take on the task of writing
>> "mailing-list" software in Raku/Perl6, and/or writing
>> "mailing-list-archiving" software (e.g. an NNTP server) in Raku/Perl6.
>> First of all, for your group this would be a relatively-high profile
>> project, with the potential for hundreds or even thousands of
>> companies adopting such a module for their own institutional or
>> company needs.
>>
>> Regarding the "archiving" module in particular, you could see how the
>> Perl mailing lists are archived, and easily imagine how they might be
>> improved. There would be a need to access data from a database, filter
>> out spam, organize the data by date and/or thread, and serve up the
>> data in a web-accessible format. Selfishly, I would love to see a
>> searchable archive of every Perl6/Raku email ever written.
>>
>> I've communicated with Ask Bjorn Hansen about the Perl software
>> presently running the NNTP archive (www.nntp.perl.org), in particular
>> the Perl6-Users mailing list. Ask Bjorn Hansen says the NNTP archive
>> runs on Colobus which is written in Perl, with commits going all the
>> way back to 2001. So why not rewrite it in Raku/Perl6?? In particular,
>> I was hoping to see a better "subject threading" algorithm, since with
>> Colobus (on occasion) emails from different "eras" are lumped together
>> in the same thread (example: emails from 2010 showing up in Sept. 2019
>> threads).
>>
>> I don't know if your group has an interest in writing a full-blown
>> NNTP server, but below are resources for Raku/Perl6, Python, and R.
>> You can decide for yourself if the Raku/Perl6 resources need
>> improving:
>>
>> Raku/Perl6:
>> https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/
>> https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/
>> https://trainedmonkey.com/projects/colobus/
>> https://github.com/abh/colobus
>>
>> Python:
>> https://www.python.org/community/lists/
>> https://mail.python.org/archives/
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo
>>
>> R:
>> https://www.r-project.org/mail.html
>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo
>> https://r.789695.n4.nabble.com
>>
>>
>> HTH, Bill.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:59 AM Tom Blackwood <tom.blkwood@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks, I'll check it out!
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 5:50 PM JJ Merelo <jjmerelo@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Try something in the most wanted repo:
>> https://github.com/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/modul=
es.md
>> That way you will learn _and_ help the community.
>> >>
>> >> El vie., 6 dic. 2019 a las 8:11, Tom Blackwood (<tom.blkwood@gmail.co=
m>)
>> escribi=C3=B3:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello
>> >>>
>> >>> My team most time developed with ruby language.
>> >>> These recent days we took  time reading the book Learning Perl 6.
>> >>> Then we consider to take an actual project to learn more deeply.
>> >>> What project do you suggest for us to get involve into?
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Tom
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> JJ
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#000000">Hello=
,<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#000000">I started w=
riting a raw interface to Tensorflow, but I stopped for various reasons [=
=C2=B9]. If anyone wants to work on it I can help and/or share what I&#39;v=
e produced so far.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#00=
0000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#000000">[=C2=
=B9] three main reasons:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#=
000000">* Ethics: I wouldn&#39;t like to be part of an effort to control pe=
ople and free speech;<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:=
#000000">* I don&#39;t trust how Google manages its projects (Just google f=
or &quot;google graveyard&quot;. I&#39;ve been burned twice by Google dropp=
ing its products, so pardon me if I&#39;m wary)<br></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"color:#000000">* Lack of experience in the specific fie=
ld of machine learning: while I understand the basics and I know how to int=
erface C and Raku, I know that the Tensorflow C API is seldom used directly=
.. Programmers usually work with the Python interface, which is much more ex=
tensive, but as far as I know, poorly documented.</div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"color:#000000">Those are just my opinions and I&#39;m hap=
py to change my opinions when facts contradict them ;-)<br></div></div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, De=
c 8, 2019 at 12:50 PM Peter Scott &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:peter@psdt.com">pet=
er@psdt.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Raku libraries for Keras/Tensorflow, or AWS, o=
r Kubernetes, leveraging the novel features of Raku, could be killer apps f=
or Raku. Ambitious, though.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Peter Scott</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 7, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Tom Bl=
ackwood &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tom.blkwood@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tom.=
blkwood@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello William,</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>We are actually a small team making the primary job =
for big data/machine learning etc.<br></div><div>We know nothing about mail=
ing list gateway and NNTP stuff.<br></div><div>But thanks for your suggesti=
on, I will take a took at the references you provided.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Regards</div><div>Tom<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 3=
:30 AM William Michels &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wjm1@caa.columbia.edu" target=
=3D"_blank">wjm1@caa.columbia.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Tom,<br>
<br>
My vote would be for someone to take on the task of writing<br>
&quot;mailing-list&quot; software in Raku/Perl6, and/or writing<br>
&quot;mailing-list-archiving&quot; software (e.g. an NNTP server) in Raku/P=
erl6.<br>
First of all, for your group this would be a relatively-high profile<br>
project, with the potential for hundreds or even thousands of<br>
companies adopting such a module for their own institutional or<br>
company needs.<br>
<br>
Regarding the &quot;archiving&quot; module in particular, you could see how=
 the<br>
Perl mailing lists are archived, and easily imagine how they might be<br>
improved. There would be a need to access data from a database, filter<br>
out spam, organize the data by date and/or thread, and serve up the<br>
data in a web-accessible format. Selfishly, I would love to see a<br>
searchable archive of every Perl6/Raku email ever written.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve communicated with Ask Bjorn Hansen about the Perl software<br>
presently running the NNTP archive (<a href=3D"http://www.nntp.perl.org" re=
l=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.nntp.perl.org</a>), in particular<br=
>
the Perl6-Users mailing list. Ask Bjorn Hansen says the NNTP archive<br>
runs on Colobus which is written in Perl, with commits going all the<br>
way back to 2001. So why not rewrite it in Raku/Perl6?? In particular,<br>
I was hoping to see a better &quot;subject threading&quot; algorithm, since=
 with<br>
Colobus (on occasion) emails from different &quot;eras&quot; are lumped tog=
ether<br>
in the same thread (example: emails from 2010 showing up in Sept. 2019<br>
threads).<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t know if your group has an interest in writing a full-blown<br>
NNTP server, but below are resources for Raku/Perl6, Python, and R.<br>
You can decide for yourself if the Raku/Perl6 resources need<br>
improving:<br>
<br>
Raku/Perl6:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/</=
a><br>
<a href=3D"https://trainedmonkey.com/projects/colobus/" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">https://trainedmonkey.com/projects/colobus/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://github.com/abh/colobus" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://github.com/abh/colobus</a><br>
<br>
Python:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.python.org/community/lists/" rel=3D"noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://www.python.org/community/lists/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://mail.python.org/archives/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"=
_blank">https://mail.python.org/archives/</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank">https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br>
<br>
R:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.r-project.org/mail.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">https://www.r-project.org/mail.html</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://r.789695.n4.nabble.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://r.789695.n4.nabble.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
HTH, Bill.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:59 AM Tom Blackwood &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tom.blkw=
ood@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tom.blkwood@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks, I&#39;ll check it out!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 5:50 PM JJ Merelo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjmerel=
o@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jjmerelo@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Try something in the most wanted repo: <a href=3D"https://github.c=
om/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/master/most-wanted/modules.md" rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/perl6/perl6-most-wanted/blob/ma=
ster/most-wanted/modules.md</a> That way you will learn _and_ help the comm=
unity.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; El vie., 6 dic. 2019 a las 8:11, Tom Blackwood (&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:tom.blkwood@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tom.blkwood@gmail.com</a>&gt;)=
 escribi=C3=B3:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hello<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; My team most time developed with ruby language.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; These recent days we took=C2=A0 time reading the book Learning=
 Perl 6.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Then we consider to take an actual project to learn more deepl=
y.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; What project do you suggest for us to get involve into?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Tom<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; JJ<br>
</blockquote></div>
</div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">Fernando Santagata</div>

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nando
12/8/2019 4:36:41 PM
On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 10:38 AM Fernando Santagata
<nando.santagata@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I started writing a raw interface to Tensorflow, but I stopped for variou=
s reasons [=C2=B9]. If anyone wants to work on it I can help and/or share w=
hat I've produced so far.
>
> [=C2=B9] three main reasons:
....

Fernando, I'm on board with you on all three!

But doesn't the Apache Group have something similar that could be a
killer app without as much angst: Spark?

See also:

1.  https://dzone.com/articles/the-complete-apache-spark-collection-tutoria=
ls-and?edition=3D549292&utm_source=3DWeekly%20Digest&utm_medium=3Demail&utm=
_campaign=3DWeekly%20Digest%202019-12-04

2. https://www.educba.com/tensorflow-alternatives/

Best regards,

-Tom
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tom
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Spark is a platform for stream processing, mainly. Tensorflow is a
framework for machine learning. It's now open source, although Google calls
the shots. I don't think they're pulling the plug here. It's open source,
you can always fork.

El dom., 8 dic. 2019 a las 18:52, Tom Browder (<tom.browder@gmail.com>)
escribi=C3=B3:

> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 10:38 AM Fernando Santagata
> <nando.santagata@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > I started writing a raw interface to Tensorflow, but I stopped for
> various reasons [=C2=B9]. If anyone wants to work on it I can help and/or=
 share
> what I've produced so far.
> >
> > [=C2=B9] three main reasons:
> ...
>
> Fernando, I'm on board with you on all three!
>
> But doesn't the Apache Group have something similar that could be a
> killer app without as much angst: Spark?
>
> See also:
>
> 1.
> https://dzone.com/articles/the-complete-apache-spark-collection-tutorials=
-and?edition=3D549292&utm_source=3DWeekly%20Digest&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_c=
ampaign=3DWeekly%20Digest%202019-12-04
>
> 2. https://www.educba.com/tensorflow-alternatives/
>
> Best regards,
>
> -Tom
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">Spark is a platform for stream processing, mainly. Tensorf=
low is a framework for machine learning. It&#39;s now open source, although=
 Google calls the shots. I don&#39;t think they&#39;re pulling the plug her=
e. It&#39;s open source, you can always fork.<br></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">El dom., 8 dic. 2019 a las=
 18:52, Tom Browder (&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tom.browder@gmail.com">tom.browd=
er@gmail.com</a>&gt;) escribi=C3=B3:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex">On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 10:38 AM Fernando Santagata<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nando.santagata@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">nando.sa=
ntagata@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hello,<br>
&gt; I started writing a raw interface to Tensorflow, but I stopped for var=
ious reasons [=C2=B9]. If anyone wants to work on it I can help and/or shar=
e what I&#39;ve produced so far.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; [=C2=B9] three main reasons:<br>
....<br>
<br>
Fernando, I&#39;m on board with you on all three!<br>
<br>
But doesn&#39;t the Apache Group have something similar that could be a<br>
killer app without as much angst: Spark?<br>
<br>
See also:<br>
<br>
1.=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://dzone.com/articles/the-complete-apache-spark-co=
llection-tutorials-and?edition=3D549292&amp;utm_source=3DWeekly%20Digest&am=
p;utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_campaign=3DWeekly%20Digest%202019-12-04" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://dzone.com/articles/the-complete-a=
pache-spark-collection-tutorials-and?edition=3D549292&amp;utm_source=3DWeek=
ly%20Digest&amp;utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_campaign=3DWeekly%20Digest%20201=
9-12-04</a><br>
<br>
2. <a href=3D"https://www.educba.com/tensorflow-alternatives/" rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.educba.com/tensorflow-alternatives/</a=
><br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
-Tom<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature">JJ</div>

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Tom

We know pretty well tensorflow and spark ML.
Spark ML is primarily for machine learning, it lacks the ability of
deep learning such as deep CNN, GAN, GCN etc. In deep learning Industry
tensorflow and pytorch are widely used. I think Perl world should have our
own framework for ML/ DL.

Regards

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 1:52 AM Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 10:38 AM Fernando Santagata
> <nando.santagata@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > I started writing a raw interface to Tensorflow, but I stopped for
> various reasons [=C2=B9]. If anyone wants to work on it I can help and/or=
 share
> what I've produced so far.
> >
> > [=C2=B9] three main reasons:
> ...
>
> Fernando, I'm on board with you on all three!
>
> But doesn't the Apache Group have something similar that could be a
> killer app without as much angst: Spark?
>
> See also:
>
> 1.
> https://dzone.com/articles/the-complete-apache-spark-collection-tutorials=
-and?edition=3D549292&utm_source=3DWeekly%20Digest&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_c=
ampaign=3DWeekly%20Digest%202019-12-04
>
> 2. https://www.educba.com/tensorflow-alternatives/
>
> Best regards,
>
> -Tom
>

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<div><div dir=3D"auto">Tom</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">We know pretty well tensorflow and spark ML.</div><div dir=3D"aut=
o">Spark ML is primarily for machine learning, it lacks the ability of deep=
=C2=A0learning such as deep CNN, GAN, GCN etc. In deep learning Industry te=
nsorflow and pytorch are widely=C2=A0used. I think Perl world should have o=
ur own framework for ML/ DL.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">Regards=C2=A0</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 1:52 AM Tom Browder &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:tom.browder@gmail.com">tom.browder@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 10:38 AM Ferna=
ndo Santagata<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nando.santagata@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">nando.sa=
ntagata@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hello,<br>
&gt; I started writing a raw interface to Tensorflow, but I stopped for var=
ious reasons [=C2=B9]. If anyone wants to work on it I can help and/or shar=
e what I&#39;ve produced so far.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; [=C2=B9] three main reasons:<br>
....<br>
<br>
Fernando, I&#39;m on board with you on all three!<br>
<br>
But doesn&#39;t the Apache Group have something similar that could be a<br>
killer app without as much angst: Spark?<br>
<br>
See also:<br>
<br>
1.=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://dzone.com/articles/the-complete-apache-spark-co=
llection-tutorials-and?edition=3D549292&amp;utm_source=3DWeekly%20Digest&am=
p;utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_campaign=3DWeekly%20Digest%202019-12-04" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://dzone.com/articles/the-complete-a=
pache-spark-collection-tutorials-and?edition=3D549292&amp;utm_source=3DWeek=
ly%20Digest&amp;utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_campaign=3DWeekly%20Digest%20201=
9-12-04</a><br>
<br>
2. <a href=3D"https://www.educba.com/tensorflow-alternatives/" rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.educba.com/tensorflow-alternatives/</a=
><br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
-Tom<br>
</blockquote></div></div>

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On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 7:38 PM Tom Blackwood <tom.blkwood@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tom
>
> We know pretty well tensorflow and spark ML.
> Spark ML is primarily for machine learning, it lacks the ability of
> deep learning such as deep CNN, GAN, GCN etc. In deep learning Industry
> tensorflow and pytorch are widely used. I think Perl world should have ou=
r
> own framework for ML/ DL.
>

Out of curiosity, for "our own framework" you mean a Raku interface to
Tensorflow, or to some other software, because Tensorflow has been taken by
Python?



> Regards
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 1:52 AM Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 10:38 AM Fernando Santagata
>> <nando.santagata@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> > I started writing a raw interface to Tensorflow, but I stopped for
>> various reasons [=C2=B9]. If anyone wants to work on it I can help and/o=
r share
>> what I've produced so far.
>> >
>> > [=C2=B9] three main reasons:
>> ...
>>
>> Fernando, I'm on board with you on all three!
>>
>> But doesn't the Apache Group have something similar that could be a
>> killer app without as much angst: Spark?
>>
>> See also:
>>
>> 1.
>> https://dzone.com/articles/the-complete-apache-spark-collection-tutorial=
s-and?edition=3D549292&utm_source=3DWeekly%20Digest&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_=
campaign=3DWeekly%20Digest%202019-12-04
>>
>> 2. https://www.educba.com/tensorflow-alternatives/
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> -Tom
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 7:38 PM Tom Blackwood &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:t=
om.blkwood@gmail.com">tom.blkwood@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto">Tom</div>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">We know pretty well ten=
sorflow and spark ML.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Spark ML is primarily for mach=
ine learning, it lacks the ability of deep=C2=A0learning such as deep CNN, =
GAN, GCN etc. In deep learning Industry tensorflow and pytorch are widely=
=C2=A0used. I think Perl world should have our own framework for ML/ DL.</d=
iv></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)" class=
=3D"gmail_default">Out of curiosity, for &quot;our own framework&quot; you =
mean a Raku interface to Tensorflow, or to some other software, because Ten=
sorflow has been taken by Python?<br></div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"></div><div d=
ir=3D"auto">Regards=C2=A0</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 1:52 AM Tom Browder &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:tom.browder@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tom.browder@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex">On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 10:38 AM Fernando Santagata<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nando.santagata@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">nando.sa=
ntagata@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hello,<br>
&gt; I started writing a raw interface to Tensorflow, but I stopped for var=
ious reasons [=C2=B9]. If anyone wants to work on it I can help and/or shar=
e what I&#39;ve produced so far.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; [=C2=B9] three main reasons:<br>
....<br>
<br>
Fernando, I&#39;m on board with you on all three!<br>
<br>
But doesn&#39;t the Apache Group have something similar that could be a<br>
killer app without as much angst: Spark?<br>
<br>
See also:<br>
<br>
1.=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://dzone.com/articles/the-complete-apache-spark-co=
llection-tutorials-and?edition=3D549292&amp;utm_source=3DWeekly%20Digest&am=
p;utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_campaign=3DWeekly%20Digest%202019-12-04" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://dzone.com/articles/the-complete-a=
pache-spark-collection-tutorials-and?edition=3D549292&amp;utm_source=3DWeek=
ly%20Digest&amp;utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_campaign=3DWeekly%20Digest%20201=
9-12-04</a><br>
<br>
2. <a href=3D"https://www.educba.com/tensorflow-alternatives/" rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.educba.com/tensorflow-alternatives/</a=
><br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
-Tom<br>
</blockquote></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature">Fernando Santagata</div></div>

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I meant Perl=E2=80=99s native frameworks for ML/DL.
Python=E2=80=99s numpy is very useful, before developing any ML framework, =
we
should have Perl=E2=80=99s numpy. So we are looking at PDL.

Thanks.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:59 AM Fernando Santagata <nando.santagata@gmail.co=
m>
wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 7:38 PM Tom Blackwood <tom.blkwood@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Tom
>>
>> We know pretty well tensorflow and spark ML.
>> Spark ML is primarily for machine learning, it lacks the ability of
>> deep learning such as deep CNN, GAN, GCN etc. In deep learning Industry
>> tensorflow and pytorch are widely used. I think Perl world should have o=
ur
>> own framework for ML/ DL.
>>
>
> Out of curiosity, for "our own framework" you mean a Raku interface to
> Tensorflow, or to some other software, because Tensorflow has been taken =
by
> Python?
>
>
>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 1:52 AM Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 10:38 AM Fernando Santagata
>>> <nando.santagata@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello,
>>> > I started writing a raw interface to Tensorflow, but I stopped for
>>> various reasons [=C2=B9]. If anyone wants to work on it I can help and/=
or share
>>> what I've produced so far.
>>> >
>>> > [=C2=B9] three main reasons:
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Fernando, I'm on board with you on all three!
>>>
>>> But doesn't the Apache Group have something similar that could be a
>>> killer app without as much angst: Spark?
>>>
>>> See also:
>>>
>>> 1.
>>> https://dzone.com/articles/the-complete-apache-spark-collection-tutoria=
ls-and?edition=3D549292&utm_source=3DWeekly%20Digest&utm_medium=3Demail&utm=
_campaign=3DWeekly%20Digest%202019-12-04
>>>
>>> 2. https://www.educba.com/tensorflow-alternatives/
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> -Tom
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Fernando Santagata
>

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<div><div dir=3D"auto">I meant Perl=E2=80=99s native frameworks for ML/DL.<=
/div></div><div dir=3D"auto">Python=E2=80=99s numpy is very useful, before =
developing any ML framework, we should have Perl=E2=80=99s numpy. So we are=
 looking at PDL.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks.=
</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:59 AM Fernando Santagata &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:nando.santagata@gmail.com">nando.santagata@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 7:38 PM To=
m Blackwood &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tom.blkwood@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">=
tom.blkwood@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto">Tom</div></div><div dir=3D"auto=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">We know pretty well tensorflow and spark ML.<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto">Spark ML is primarily for machine learning, it lacks=
 the ability of deep=C2=A0learning such as deep CNN, GAN, GCN etc. In deep =
learning Industry tensorflow and pytorch are widely=C2=A0used. I think Perl=
 world should have our own framework for ML/ DL.</div></blockquote><div><br=
></div><div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)" class=3D"gmail_default">Out of =
curiosity, for &quot;our own framework&quot; you mean a Raku interface to T=
ensorflow, or to some other software, because Tensorflow has been taken by =
Python?<br></div><br></div></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"auto"></div><div dir=3D"auto">Regards=C2=A0</div><div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 9, =
2019 at 1:52 AM Tom Browder &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tom.browder@gmail.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">tom.browder@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 10:38 AM Fernan=
do Santagata<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nando.santagata@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">nando.sa=
ntagata@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hello,<br>
&gt; I started writing a raw interface to Tensorflow, but I stopped for var=
ious reasons [=C2=B9]. If anyone wants to work on it I can help and/or shar=
e what I&#39;ve produced so far.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; [=C2=B9] three main reasons:<br>
....<br>
<br>
Fernando, I&#39;m on board with you on all three!<br>
<br>
But doesn&#39;t the Apache Group have something similar that could be a<br>
killer app without as much angst: Spark?<br>
<br>
See also:<br>
<br>
1.=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://dzone.com/articles/the-complete-apache-spark-co=
llection-tutorials-and?edition=3D549292&amp;utm_source=3DWeekly%20Digest&am=
p;utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_campaign=3DWeekly%20Digest%202019-12-04" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://dzone.com/articles/the-complete-a=
pache-spark-collection-tutorials-and?edition=3D549292&amp;utm_source=3DWeek=
ly%20Digest&amp;utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_campaign=3DWeekly%20Digest%20201=
9-12-04</a><br>
<br>
2. <a href=3D"https://www.educba.com/tensorflow-alternatives/" rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.educba.com/tensorflow-alternatives/</a=
><br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
-Tom<br>
</blockquote></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr">Fernando S=
antagata</div></div>
</blockquote></div></div>

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