Is LibraryMake still current?

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Hello,

What can I use to help building native code for a Raku module?
Is LibraryMake still the preferred method or there's something else to use
nowadays?

Thanks!

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 method or there&#39;s something else to use nowadays?<br></div><div><br></=
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Hi Fernando,
I'm still in the habit of using LibraryMake. E.g. for
https://github.com/p6-xml/LibXML-raku released in this last few months.
Regards,
David

On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:47 AM Fernando Santagata <
nando.santagata@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> What can I use to help building native code for a Raku module?
> Is LibraryMake still the preferred method or there's something else to use
> nowadays?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Fernando Santagata
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi=C2=A0Fernando,<div>I&#39;m still in the habit of using =
LibraryMake. E.g. for=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/p6-xml/LibXML-raku=
">https://github.com/p6-xml/LibXML-raku</a>=C2=A0released in this last few =
months.</div><div>Regards,</div><div>David</div></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:4=
7 AM Fernando Santagata &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nando.santagata@gmail.com">na=
ndo.santagata@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">Hello,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(0,=
0,0)">What can I use to help building native code for a Raku module? Is=C2=
=A0LibraryMake still the preferred method or there&#39;s something else to =
use nowadays?<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)" =
class=3D"gmail_default">Thanks!</div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Fernando Santagata</div></div>
</blockquote></div>

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12/23/2019 2:28:27 AM
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Hi David,
Thank you for replying!

LibraryMake looked ancient to me for its use of a .pm file, instead of a
..pm6, so I asked if there was anything newer.
The quantity of Raku modules is not remotely comparable to Perl's, yet
there's something new each week and I may have failed to notice something
useful!

Happy holidays!

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 3:28 AM David Warring <david.warring@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Fernando,
> I'm still in the habit of using LibraryMake. E.g. for
> https://github.com/p6-xml/LibXML-raku released in this last few months.
> Regards,
> David
>
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7:47 AM Fernando Santagata <
> nando.santagata@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> What can I use to help building native code for a Raku module?
>> Is LibraryMake still the preferred method or there's something else to use
>> nowadays?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Fernando Santagata
>>
>

-- 
Fernando Santagata

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#000000">Hi Da=
vid,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#000000">Thank you fo=
r replying!</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#000000"><br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#000000">LibraryMake looke=
d ancient to me for its use of a .pm file, instead of a .pm6, so I asked if=
 there was anything newer.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color=
:#000000">The quantity of Raku modules is not remotely comparable to Perl&#=
39;s, yet there&#39;s something new each week and I may have failed to noti=
ce something useful!</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#0000=
00"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#000000">Happy ho=
lidays!<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 3:28 AM David Warring &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:david.warring@gmail.com">david.warring@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Hi=C2=A0Fernando,<div>I&#39;m still in the habit of using LibraryMake. E.g=
.. for=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/p6-xml/LibXML-raku" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://github.com/p6-xml/LibXML-raku</a>=C2=A0released in this last fe=
w months.</div><div>Regards,</div><div>David</div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 7=
:47 AM Fernando Santagata &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nando.santagata@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">nando.santagata@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">Hello,</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">What can I use to help building native code for a =
Raku module? Is=C2=A0LibraryMake still the preferred method or there&#39;s =
something else to use nowadays?<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"=
color:rgb(0,0,0)" class=3D"gmail_default">Thanks!</div></div><div><br></div=
>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr">Fernando Santagata</div></div>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature">Fernando Santagata</div>

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nando
12/23/2019 9:51:10 AM
With the name change to Raku, has anyone considered a naming suffix
policy for modules?  I don't have a problem with .pm6, and I don't
want to cause an outbreak of bikeshedding, but some might consider it
inconsistent.

As an aside, I deplore the practice of identifying the language of a
directly executable program in the top level. It means that any change
to the language used means lying to the world, (which destroys the
point) or hunting down and changing every script or other caller to
reflect the new situation.
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1parrota
12/23/2019 2:28:46 PM
h=
ttps://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/blob/master/solutions/language/Pat=
h-to-Raku.md#extensions

> On 23 Dec 2019, at 15:28, Parrot Raiser <1parrota@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> With the name change to Raku, has anyone considered a naming suffix
> policy for modules?  I don't have a problem with .pm6, and I don't
> want to cause an outbreak of bikeshedding, but some might consider it
> inconsistent.
>=20
> As an aside, I deplore the practice of identifying the language of a
> directly executable program in the top level. It means that any change
> to the language used means lying to the world, (which destroys the
> point) or hunting down and changing every script or other caller to
> reflect the new situation.
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liz
12/23/2019 2:46:54 PM
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I hope that zef tests a distribution using both .t and .rakutest
extensions, because there is no --verbose option to let one see what's
happening.

BTW I raised one issue on App::Mi6, because its dist.ini file doesn't allow
a module to end with .rakumod, and one on App:prove6, because the prove6
program doesn't test files ending with .rakutest.

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 3:47 PM Elizabeth Mattijsen <liz@dijkmat.nl> wrote:

>
> https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/blob/master/solutions/language/Path-to-Raku.md#extensions
>
> > On 23 Dec 2019, at 15:28, Parrot Raiser <1parrota@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > With the name change to Raku, has anyone considered a naming suffix
> > policy for modules?  I don't have a problem with .pm6, and I don't
> > want to cause an outbreak of bikeshedding, but some might consider it
> > inconsistent.
> >
> > As an aside, I deplore the practice of identifying the language of a
> > directly executable program in the top level. It means that any change
> > to the language used means lying to the world, (which destroys the
> > point) or hunting down and changing every script or other caller to
> > reflect the new situation.
>


-- 
Fernando Santagata

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#000000">I hop=
e that zef tests a distribution using both .t and .rakutest extensions, bec=
ause there is no --verbose option to let one see what&#39;s happening.</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#000000"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#000000">BTW I raised one issue on App::M=
i6, because its dist.ini file doesn&#39;t allow a module to end with .rakum=
od, and one on App:prove6, because the prove6 program doesn&#39;t test file=
s ending with .rakutest.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 3:47 PM Elizabeth Mat=
tijsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:liz@dijkmat.nl">liz@dijkmat.nl</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><a href=3D"https=
://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/blob/master/solutions/language/Path-to-=
Raku.md#extensions" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com=
/perl6/problem-solving/blob/master/solutions/language/Path-to-Raku.md#exten=
sions</a><br>
<br>
&gt; On 23 Dec 2019, at 15:28, Parrot Raiser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:1parrota=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">1parrota@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; With the name change to Raku, has anyone considered a naming suffix<br=
>
&gt; policy for modules?=C2=A0 I don&#39;t have a problem with .pm6, and I =
don&#39;t<br>
&gt; want to cause an outbreak of bikeshedding, but some might consider it<=
br>
&gt; inconsistent.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; As an aside, I deplore the practice of identifying the language of a<b=
r>
&gt; directly executable program in the top level. It means that any change=
<br>
&gt; to the language used means lying to the world, (which destroys the<br>
&gt; point) or hunting down and changing every script or other caller to<br=
>
&gt; reflect the new situation.<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature">Fernando Santagata</div>

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nando
12/23/2019 3:51:32 PM
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It seems that the problem I was having with prove6 was due to zef not
realizing there is a new version of the module.

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 4:51 PM Fernando Santagata <
nando.santagata@gmail.com> wrote:

> I hope that zef tests a distribution using both .t and .rakutest
> extensions, because there is no --verbose option to let one see what's
> happening.
>
> BTW I raised one issue on App::Mi6, because its dist.ini file doesn't
> allow a module to end with .rakumod, and one on App:prove6, because the
> prove6 program doesn't test files ending with .rakutest.
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 3:47 PM Elizabeth Mattijsen <liz@dijkmat.nl>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/blob/master/solutions/language/Path-to-Raku.md#extensions
>>
>> > On 23 Dec 2019, at 15:28, Parrot Raiser <1parrota@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > With the name change to Raku, has anyone considered a naming suffix
>> > policy for modules?  I don't have a problem with .pm6, and I don't
>> > want to cause an outbreak of bikeshedding, but some might consider it
>> > inconsistent.
>> >
>> > As an aside, I deplore the practice of identifying the language of a
>> > directly executable program in the top level. It means that any change
>> > to the language used means lying to the world, (which destroys the
>> > point) or hunting down and changing every script or other caller to
>> > reflect the new situation.
>>
>
>
> --
> Fernando Santagata
>


-- 
Fernando Santagata

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#000000">It se=
ems that the problem I was having with prove6 was due to zef not realizing =
there is a new version of the module.<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 4:51=
 PM Fernando Santagata &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nando.santagata@gmail.com">nan=
do.santagata@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">I hope that zef tests a distribution using both .t an=
d .rakutest extensions, because there is no --verbose option to let one see=
 what&#39;s happening.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb=
(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">=
BTW I raised one issue on App::Mi6, because its dist.ini file doesn&#39;t a=
llow a module to end with .rakumod, and one on App:prove6, because the prov=
e6 program doesn&#39;t test files ending with .rakutest.</div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 2=
3, 2019 at 3:47 PM Elizabeth Mattijsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:liz@dijkmat.nl=
" target=3D"_blank">liz@dijkmat.nl</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><a href=3D"https://github.com/perl6/probl=
em-solving/blob/master/solutions/language/Path-to-Raku.md#extensions" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/=
blob/master/solutions/language/Path-to-Raku.md#extensions</a><br>
<br>
&gt; On 23 Dec 2019, at 15:28, Parrot Raiser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:1parrota=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">1parrota@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; With the name change to Raku, has anyone considered a naming suffix<br=
>
&gt; policy for modules?=C2=A0 I don&#39;t have a problem with .pm6, and I =
don&#39;t<br>
&gt; want to cause an outbreak of bikeshedding, but some might consider it<=
br>
&gt; inconsistent.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; As an aside, I deplore the practice of identifying the language of a<b=
r>
&gt; directly executable program in the top level. It means that any change=
<br>
&gt; to the language used means lying to the world, (which destroys the<br>
&gt; point) or hunting down and changing every script or other caller to<br=
>
&gt; reflect the new situation.<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr">Fernando S=
antagata</div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature">Fernando Santagata</div>

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nando
12/23/2019 4:08:18 PM
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=E2=80=A6and the App::Mi6 author just released an updated version that deal=
s well
with the new naming scheme!

Thank you!

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 4:51 PM Fernando Santagata <
nando.santagata@gmail.com> wrote:

> I hope that zef tests a distribution using both .t and .rakutest
> extensions, because there is no --verbose option to let one see what's
> happening.
>
> BTW I raised one issue on App::Mi6, because its dist.ini file doesn't
> allow a module to end with .rakumod, and one on App:prove6, because the
> prove6 program doesn't test files ending with .rakutest.
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 3:47 PM Elizabeth Mattijsen <liz@dijkmat.nl>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/blob/master/solutions/language/=
Path-to-Raku.md#extensions
>>
>> > On 23 Dec 2019, at 15:28, Parrot Raiser <1parrota@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > With the name change to Raku, has anyone considered a naming suffix
>> > policy for modules?  I don't have a problem with .pm6, and I don't
>> > want to cause an outbreak of bikeshedding, but some might consider it
>> > inconsistent.
>> >
>> > As an aside, I deplore the practice of identifying the language of a
>> > directly executable program in the top level. It means that any change
>> > to the language used means lying to the world, (which destroys the
>> > point) or hunting down and changing every script or other caller to
>> > reflect the new situation.
>>
>
>
> --
> Fernando Santagata
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#000000">=E2=
=80=A6and the App::Mi6 author just released an updated version that deals w=
ell with the new naming scheme!</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#00000=
0">Thank you!<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 4:51 PM Fernando Santagata &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nando.santagata@gmail.com">nando.santagata@gmail.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">I ho=
pe that zef tests a distribution using both .t and .rakutest extensions, be=
cause there is no --verbose option to let one see what&#39;s happening.</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">BTW I raised one issue on =
App::Mi6, because its dist.ini file doesn&#39;t allow a module to end with =
..rakumod, and one on App:prove6, because the prove6 program doesn&#39;t tes=
t files ending with .rakutest.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 3:47 PM Elizabe=
th Mattijsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:liz@dijkmat.nl" target=3D"_blank">liz@di=
jkmat.nl</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex"><a href=3D"https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/blob/master/sol=
utions/language/Path-to-Raku.md#extensions" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_b=
lank">https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/blob/master/solutions/langua=
ge/Path-to-Raku.md#extensions</a><br>
<br>
&gt; On 23 Dec 2019, at 15:28, Parrot Raiser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:1parrota=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">1parrota@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; With the name change to Raku, has anyone considered a naming suffix<br=
>
&gt; policy for modules?=C2=A0 I don&#39;t have a problem with .pm6, and I =
don&#39;t<br>
&gt; want to cause an outbreak of bikeshedding, but some might consider it<=
br>
&gt; inconsistent.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; As an aside, I deplore the practice of identifying the language of a<b=
r>
&gt; directly executable program in the top level. It means that any change=
<br>
&gt; to the language used means lying to the world, (which destroys the<br>
&gt; point) or hunting down and changing every script or other caller to<br=
>
&gt; reflect the new situation.<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr">Fernando S=
antagata</div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature">Fernando Santagata</div>

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nando
12/24/2019 12:14:14 PM
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Sorry for the necroposting, but I found out a new way to build a native
code library to be used by a Raku module.

Using Distribution::Builder::MakeFromJSON one can configure the native
library building by adding some sections to the META6.json file, without
using LibraryMake and its Build.pm file.
'zef build' works flawlessly and so does Mi6, which OTOH can't deal with
LibraryMake.

HTH

On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 7:41 PM Fernando Santagata <
nando.santagata@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> What can I use to help building native code for a Raku module?
> Is LibraryMake still the preferred method or there's something else to use
> nowadays?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Fernando Santagata
>


-- 
Fernando Santagata

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#000000">Sorry=
 for the necroposting, but I found out a new way to build a native code lib=
rary to be used by a Raku module.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#0=
00000">Using Distribution::Builder::MakeFromJSON one can configure the nati=
ve library building by adding some sections to the META6.json file, without=
 using LibraryMake and its Build.pm file.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"color:#000000">&#39;zef build&#39; works flawlessly and so does M=
i6, which OTOH can&#39;t deal with LibraryMake.</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:#000000">HTH<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 7:41 PM Fernando Sa=
ntagata &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nando.santagata@gmail.com">nando.santagata@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0=
,0)">Hello,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">What can I =
use to help building native code for a Raku module? Is=C2=A0LibraryMake sti=
ll the preferred method or there&#39;s something else to use nowadays?<br><=
/div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)" class=3D"gmail_def=
ault">Thanks!</div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr">Fernando Sa=
ntagata</div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature">Fernando Santagata</div>

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