[ID 19991025.007] Build Issues with perl5.005.2 on AIX 4.3.2.0

Hi,
I've just completed a good build with AIX 4.3.2.0 using gcc 2.95.1 There
were some problems
with the hints and I needed to add -lmssa in order to get the math functions
to work
I've still got the build dir intact so if I can send you anything to help
let me know
Thanks,
Bob French
UNIX system manager
US Diagnostics Inc
bfrench@usdl.com        

The output from myconfig.....

Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 5 subversion 2) configuration:
  Platform:
    osname=aix, osvers=4.3.2.0, archname=aix
    uname='aix u-sewpbcbo-vis2 3 4 00059247a100 '
    hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
    usethreads=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef
  Compiler:
    cc='gcc', optimize='-O', gccversion=2.95.1 19990816 (release)
    cppflags='-D_ALL_SOURCE -D_ANSI_C_SOURCE -D_POSIX_SOURCE
-I/usr/local/include'
    ccflags ='-D_ALL_SOURCE -D_ANSI_C_SOURCE -D_POSIX_SOURCE
-I/usr/local/include'
    stdchar='unsigned char', d_stdstdio=define, usevfork=false
    intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8
    d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=8
    alignbytes=8, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define
  Linker and Libraries:
    ld='ld', ldflags =''
    libpth=/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-ibm-aix4.3.2.0/2.95.1
    libs= 
    libc=, so=a, useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a
  Dynamic Linking:
    dlsrc=dl_none.xs, dlext=none, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=''
    cccdlflags='', lddlflags=''
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Bob French writes:
 > Hi,
 > I've just completed a good build with AIX 4.3.2.0 using gcc 2.95.1 There
 > were some problems
 > with the hints and I needed to add -lmssa in order to get the math functions
 > to work
 > I've still got the build dir intact so if I can send you anything to help
 > let me know

Well, first of all: why 5.005_02?  There's 5.005_03 availabled.

Secondly: -lmssa for the math functions?  Surely -lm would have been enough?
What kind of problems with the hints (any other than the -lmssa thing)?

-- 
$jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/
        # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
        # It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
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jhi
10/26/1999 2:45:24 PM
Bob French writes:
> Why 5.005_02? because thats what showed at gnu.org at the time. I've gone to
> the perl site and will give 5.005_03 a whirl.

This is far from the first time that someone has (possibly) wasted their
time by putting effort into an out-of date version.    Would the
attached patch to INSTALL be a Good Thing?

I had a slight difficulty in choosing the URL to include.   Ideally it
should lead somewhere which says authoritatively "Latest is 5.005_03".
The only authoritative source is CPAN; on CPAN this information is only
obviously available encoded in the URL itself

     http://www.perl.com/CPAN/src/latest_is_5.005_03

and including that would be self-defeating.   And also, if you do try
to look at that, you get a really exciting blank page.   Should there
be a file somewhere (e.g. at http://www.perl.com/CPAN/src/latest )
which contains just that statement?


Mike Guy


--- ./INSTALL.orig	Mon Sep 27 03:46:42 1999
+++ ./INSTALL	Wed Oct 27 13:22:37 1999
@@ -4,6 +4,10 @@
 
 =head1 SYNOPSIS
 
+First, make sure you are installing an up-to-date version of Perl.   If
+you didn't get your Perl source from CPAN, check the latest version at
+<URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/src/>.
+
 The basic steps to build and install perl5 on a Unix system are:
 
 	rm -f config.sh Policy.sh
@@ -27,8 +31,6 @@
 	make
 	make test
 	make install
-
-Full configuration instructions can be found in the INSTALL file.
 
 For information on non-Unix systems, see the section on
 L<"Porting information"> below.

End of patch
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mjtg
10/27/1999 1:41:26 PM
M.J.T. Guy writes:
 > Bob French writes:
 > > Why 5.005_02? because thats what showed at gnu.org at the time. I've gone to
 > > the perl site and will give 5.005_03 a whirl.
 > 
 > This is far from the first time that someone has (possibly) wasted their
 > time by putting effort into an out-of date version.    Would the
 > attached patch to INSTALL be a Good Thing?
 > 
 > I had a slight difficulty in choosing the URL to include.   Ideally it
 > should lead somewhere which says authoritatively "Latest is 5.005_03".
 > The only authoritative source is CPAN; on CPAN this information is only
 > obviously available encoded in the URL itself
 > 
 >      http://www.perl.com/CPAN/src/latest_is_5.005_03
 > 
 > and including that would be self-defeating.   And also, if you do try
 > to look at that, you get a really exciting blank page.   Should there
 > be a file somewhere (e.g. at http://www.perl.com/CPAN/src/latest )
 > which contains just that statement?

Such as the http://www.perl.com/CPAN/src/latest.tar.gz and
http://www.perl.com/CPAN/src/latest.zip, explained in
http://www.perl.com/CPAN/src/README...?

-- 
$jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/
        # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
        # It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
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jhi
10/27/1999 1:48:13 PM
Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@iki.fi> wrote
> Such as the http://www.perl.com/CPAN/src/latest.tar.gz and
> http://www.perl.com/CPAN/src/latest.zip, explained in
> http://www.perl.com/CPAN/src/README...?

Well, that's what the given URL gets you.    But that exactly misses
my point, probably because I didn't express myself clearly.

The situation being addressed is where someone has got hold of
something labelled "Perl" and possibly also "latest" from, err,
perhaps Matt's Script Archive.  The problem is that _every_
(production) version of Perl has the label "latest" at some point of
its life cycle.    So we need to point to something which contains
the explicit numbers 5.005_03, to distinguish from all the other "latest"
versions.

The simplest fix would be if the README on CPAN/src contained somewhere
prominent the words "Latest is 5.005_03".   And if this info was
automatically updated when the "latest" changes, of course.


Mike Guy
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mjtg
10/27/1999 2:13:32 PM
M.J.T. Guy [mjtg@cus.cam.ac.uk] quoth:
*>
*>The simplest fix would be if the README on CPAN/src contained somewhere
*>prominent the words "Latest is 5.005_03".   And if this info was
*>automatically updated when the "latest" changes, of course.

The people would might need that probably are the same crowd that don't
read README's. Also, on the top of www.perl.com is a banner saying 
" Perl Versions: Stable is 5.005_03.  Devel is 5.005_62. "

If people care to look, I think the information is there...unless I missed
something here.

e. 
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elaine
10/27/1999 3:52:47 PM
"'Elaine -HFB- Ashton'" <elaine@chaos.wustl.edu> wrote
> This makes me wonder if the GNU folks have stale releases, how many other
> sites do too. Perhaps it should be noted either in the readme or in
> Configure that if you didn't get the source from CPAN or perl.com that you
> might not have the latest stable release.

Err, that's exactly what my patch was for, that started this subthread.

Stale releases are a fact of life.   Think of people who burn CDs.
And the wording of the licences actively encourages people to squirrel
copies of Perl away in various archives.


Mike Guy
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mjtg
10/28/1999 3:07:53 PM
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