Can GroupWise client act as standalone pop3 client

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Can the GroupWise client act as a completely standalone pop3/smtp client as
Outlook can i.e. if there are no GroupWise servers or gateways etc install
any where on site can the GroupWise client receive store and send internet
emails?

Thanks


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John
6/23/2004 4:17:59 PM
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Ross
6/23/2004 5:35:31 PM
John Watson wrote:

> Can the GroupWise client act as a completely standalone pop3/smtp client as
> Outlook can i.e. if there are no GroupWise servers or gateways etc install
> any where on site can the GroupWise client receive store and send internet
> emails?

Yep, it sure can. Pop3, imap4 or NNTP can all be done "stand alone" without
any other GW components.

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Jim
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Jim
6/23/2004 6:25:21 PM
Jim:  One major problem here.  I have been using this the way you described
for a client since GW6 was released and it worked like a charm!  Upgraded
to NWSB 6.5 and GW6.5 and it broke everything.  Now, any address being
added automatically "sticks" the XXXX.GWIA address  in by default and any
time you try to send a message, it picks this as the default.  You
literally have to force it to go to the address book and manually select
the "real" POP3 address of the recipient to have it ignore the GWIA
terminology.  Never needed GWIA before, don't care to have it now.  Can you
provide any insight as to a way around this with 6.5?  Addressing has
become such a nightmare since the upgrade, the client is considering
throwing GW out the door!  The folks in the GWIA forum insist you've always
had to have GWIA up to use the client for POP3 access.  We know differently
from experience. Can you help?
Thanks.

Gary


> John Watson wrote:
> 
> > Can the GroupWise client act as a completely standalone pop3/smtp client as
> > Outlook can i.e. if there are no GroupWise servers or gateways etc install
> > any where on site can the GroupWise client receive store and send internet
> > emails?
> 
> Yep, it sure can. Pop3, imap4 or NNTP can all be done "stand alone" without
> any other GW components.
> 
> --
> Jim
> NSC SYsop

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gwhirsch
6/23/2004 8:09:53 PM
gwhirsch@compuserve.com wrote:
> 
> Jim:  One major problem here.  I have been using this the way you described
> for a client since GW6 was released and it worked like a charm!  Upgraded
> to NWSB 6.5 and GW6.5 and it broke everything.  Now, any address being
> added automatically "sticks" the XXXX.GWIA address  in by default and any
> time you try to send a message, it picks this as the default.  You
> literally have to force it to go to the address book and manually select
> the "real" POP3 address of the recipient to have it ignore the GWIA
> terminology.  Never needed GWIA before, don't care to have it now.  Can you
> provide any insight as to a way around this with 6.5?  Addressing has
> become such a nightmare since the upgrade, the client is considering
> throwing GW out the door!  The folks in the GWIA forum insist you've always
> had to have GWIA up to use the client for POP3 access.  We know differently
> from experience. Can you help?

Hmmm... I'm not at all familiar with the addressing problem you describe. I
don't even understand how your stand-alone client can "know" about a GWIA at
all?? Can you describe your setup in a little more detail? Are you in fact
using the POA and other Groupwise agents as well as pop accounts?

--
Jim
NSC SYsop
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Jim
6/23/2004 11:06:21 PM
Thanks for your input every one.

I will give it a go,

are there any anti-spam plug ins I can use with the GroupeWise 6.5 client in
standalone mode? There are quite a few for outlook like LockSpam and
SpamBully which plug them selfs into outlook when you install them and give
you another folder called Spam etc where it dumps emails I thinks are spam
etc etc... has any one seen a products that is client based only that will
work with GroupWise in standalone mode?

Thanks very much
<gwhirsch@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:VEsCc.4251$Xl6.2695@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com...
> Yes, we're using the POA and other agents along with the POP3 accounts.
> The POA is merely for internal communications relative to the calendaring
> functions.  When 6.0 was released, we set up the retrieval of their
> external POP3 accounts in the clients and it worked well.  GWIA never
> entered into the picture.  When we upgraded to GW 6.5, every time we add
> an address, GW also adds an XXXX.GWIA address for that individual and sets
> it as default.  However, since I posted earlier, we've found using Console
> One that there were a set of addressing "rules" that were set on by
> default by the 6.5 upgrade that were not set on with the 6.0 install.
> We've turned those all off and it appears to have solved the problems. The
> only one we left on (and it was also on before) was the rule to exclude
> GWIA? Not knowing how the rules are used/executed, we're not sure why this
> would have had the effect it did. We'll look into that in a little more
> detail later. Right now, we need to make sure the changes really will have
> the effect we believe it did. Thanks for the response.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
> > gwhirsch@compuserve.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Jim:  One major problem here.  I have been using this the way you
> described
> > > for a client since GW6 was released and it worked like a charm!
> Upgraded
> > > to NWSB 6.5 and GW6.5 and it broke everything.  Now, any address being

> > > added automatically "sticks" the XXXX.GWIA address  in by default and
> any
> > > time you try to send a message, it picks this as the default.  You
> > > literally have to force it to go to the address book and manually
> select
> > > the "real" POP3 address of the recipient to have it ignore the GWIA
> > > terminology.  Never needed GWIA before, don't care to have it now.
> Can you
> > > provide any insight as to a way around this with 6.5?  Addressing has
> > > become such a nightmare since the upgrade, the client is considering
> > > throwing GW out the door!  The folks in the GWIA forum insist you've
> always
> > > had to have GWIA up to use the client for POP3 access.  We know
> differently
> > > from experience. Can you help?
> >
> > Hmmm... I'm not at all familiar with the addressing problem you
> describe. I
> > don't even understand how your stand-alone client can "know" about a
> GWIA at
> > all?? Can you describe your setup in a little more detail? Are you in
> fact
> > using the POA and other Groupwise agents as well as pop accounts?
> >
> > --
> > Jim
> > NSC SYsop
>


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John
6/24/2004 11:03:17 AM
John Watson wrote:

> are there any anti-spam plug ins I can use with the GroupeWise 6.5 client in
> standalone mode? There are quite a few for outlook like LockSpam and
> SpamBully which plug them selfs into outlook when you install them and give
> you another folder called Spam etc where it dumps emails I thinks are spam
> etc etc... has any one seen a products that is client based only that will
> work with GroupWise in standalone mode?

There are several pop3 proxies that work great with GroupWise. Two examples
are K9 and PopFile (I prefer K9). Both work in a similar fashion: you
install the software, which acts as a pop3 proxy on your machine. You then
configure the GroupWise pop3 accounts to point at your OWN machine
(127.0.0.1) on a specific port, which is the pop3 proxy. It then goes and
fetches the mail, scans it (bayesian filtering), and sends it on to the
client marked up as spam (or not). You then use simple GroupWise rules to
either sort the spam or delete it.

--
Jim
NSC SYsop
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Jim
6/24/2004 3:21:25 PM
Thanks very mcu

"Jim Michael" <jkmichael@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:40DAF174.B281FCA9@myrealbox.com...
> John Watson wrote:
>
> > are there any anti-spam plug ins I can use with the GroupeWise 6.5
client in
> > standalone mode? There are quite a few for outlook like LockSpam and
> > SpamBully which plug them selfs into outlook when you install them and
give
> > you another folder called Spam etc where it dumps emails I thinks are
spam
> > etc etc... has any one seen a products that is client based only that
will
> > work with GroupWise in standalone mode?
>
> There are several pop3 proxies that work great with GroupWise. Two
examples
> are K9 and PopFile (I prefer K9). Both work in a similar fashion: you
> install the software, which acts as a pop3 proxy on your machine. You then
> configure the GroupWise pop3 accounts to point at your OWN machine
> (127.0.0.1) on a specific port, which is the pop3 proxy. It then goes and
> fetches the mail, scans it (bayesian filtering), and sends it on to the
> client marked up as spam (or not). You then use simple GroupWise rules to
> either sort the spam or delete it.
>
> --
> Jim
> NSC SYsop


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Ernest
6/25/2004 1:12:02 PM
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