Why is Mozilla Mail & News so slow ?

Hi,
i have Mozilla 1.5 installed on my XP PRO.
256MB 1GH
i have it allways minimized.

if i stop using it for some time, when i try to get back to it, 
sometimes it takes some seconds to have focus
just an example...

Thank You

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11/5/2003 6:20:35 PM
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C. Sousa wrote:

> Hi,
> i have Mozilla 1.5 installed on my XP PRO.
> 256MB 1GH
> i have it allways minimized.
> 
> if i stop using it for some time, when i try to get back to it, 
> sometimes it takes some seconds to have focus
> just an example...
> 
> Thank You
> 

There are some bug reports on this behavior.  It does not seem to affect
all users, nor does it seem to be tied to a particular system
configuration or Windows version.

FWIW, I just left the Browser and Mail/News minimized for about 2 hours.
 Maximizing them took about 6 seconds and 10 seconds respectively.

933 MHz Pentium
512 Mb RAM
7200 rpm drive
Cable modem
Windows XP Home SP1 fully patched

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Ed
11/5/2003 8:44:00 PM
C. Sousa wrote:

> Hi,
> i have Mozilla 1.5 installed on my XP PRO.
> 256MB 1GH
> i have it allways minimized.
> 
> if i stop using it for some time, when i try to get back to it, 
> sometimes it takes some seconds to have focus
> just an example...
> 
> Thank You
> 
Probably it got paged out by Windows and had to be reloaded.  Others 
complain about this as well.  If you have prefetch active on the WinXP 
system, then it might be easier to exit and reload each time.  Reloading 
here takes only a couple of seconds after the first load.
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Ron
11/6/2003 1:19:01 AM
Ron Hunter wrote:
> C. Sousa wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> i have Mozilla 1.5 installed on my XP PRO.
>> 256MB 1GH
>> i have it allways minimized.
>>
>> if i stop using it for some time, when i try to get back to it, 
>> sometimes it takes some seconds to have focus
>> just an example...
>>
>> Thank You
>>
> Probably it got paged out by Windows and had to be reloaded.  Others 
> complain about this as well.  If you have prefetch active on the WinXP 
> system, then it might be easier to exit and reload each time.  Reloading 
> here takes only a couple of seconds after the first load.

My biggest gripe, speedwise, is the delay in switching between 
newsgroups. It may take anywhere from 12-30 seconds when changing 
groups. But I live with it as Mozilla is the only way to fly, IMHO.

System: Compaq Presario upgraded to 950 MHz Athlon CPU from a 700 MHz 
Duron, 768 megs of ram, 60 gig HD (7200 rpm), Win XP Pro. ISP is Comcast 
with Giganews as newsgroup provider.

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Tony
11/6/2003 3:27:30 AM
Tony wrote:

> Ron Hunter wrote:
> 
>>C. Sousa wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>i have Mozilla 1.5 installed on my XP PRO.
>>>256MB 1GH
>>>i have it allways minimized.
>>>
>>>if i stop using it for some time, when i try to get back to it, 
>>>sometimes it takes some seconds to have focus
>>>just an example...
>>>
>>>Thank You
>>>
>>
>>Probably it got paged out by Windows and had to be reloaded.  Others 
>>complain about this as well.  If you have prefetch active on the WinXP 
>>system, then it might be easier to exit and reload each time.  Reloading 
>>here takes only a couple of seconds after the first load.
> 
> 
> My biggest gripe, speedwise, is the delay in switching between 
> newsgroups. It may take anywhere from 12-30 seconds when changing 
> groups. But I live with it as Mozilla is the only way to fly, IMHO.
> 
> System: Compaq Presario upgraded to 950 MHz Athlon CPU from a 700 MHz 
> Duron, 768 megs of ram, 60 gig HD (7200 rpm), Win XP Pro. ISP is Comcast 
> with Giganews as newsgroup provider.
> 

That's not Mozilla.  I can change servers (email or ng) instantly.

Are you using dial up connection?  It may simply be the time it takes to
read the headers in from your server.

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Lead me not into temptation (I can find the way myself).

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Ed
11/6/2003 7:58:32 AM
Tony wrote:
> Ron Hunter wrote:
> 
>> C. Sousa wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> i have Mozilla 1.5 installed on my XP PRO.
>>> 256MB 1GH
>>> i have it allways minimized.
>>>
>>> if i stop using it for some time, when i try to get back to it, 
>>> sometimes it takes some seconds to have focus
>>> just an example...
>>>
>>> Thank You
>>>
>> Probably it got paged out by Windows and had to be reloaded.  Others 
>> complain about this as well.  If you have prefetch active on the WinXP 
>> system, then it might be easier to exit and reload each time.  
>> Reloading here takes only a couple of seconds after the first load.
> 
> 
> My biggest gripe, speedwise, is the delay in switching between 
> newsgroups. It may take anywhere from 12-30 seconds when changing 
> groups. But I live with it as Mozilla is the only way to fly, IMHO.
> 
> System: Compaq Presario upgraded to 950 MHz Athlon CPU from a 700 MHz 
> Duron, 768 megs of ram, 60 gig HD (7200 rpm), Win XP Pro. ISP is Comcast 
> with Giganews as newsgroup provider.
> 
I suspect your problem is with Giganews.  Do you have the same problem 
with the mozilla.org servers?  I work with about 20 newsgroups and 
transitions are done with no perceptible delay.
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Ron
11/6/2003 10:10:03 AM
C. Sousa wrote:

> Hi,
> i have Mozilla 1.5 installed on my XP PRO.
> 256MB 1GH
> i have it allways minimized.
> 
> if i stop using it for some time, when i try to get back to it, 
> sometimes it takes some seconds to have focus
> just an example...
> 
> Thank You
> 

Keep an eye on these bugs:
Minimize Bug on NT class machines:
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109166  (created: 2001-11-09)
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76831   (created: 2002-05-21)


-Joe

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Joe
11/6/2003 11:49:11 AM
Ron Hunter wrote:
> Tony wrote:
> 
>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> C. Sousa wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> i have Mozilla 1.5 installed on my XP PRO.
>>>> 256MB 1GH
>>>> i have it allways minimized.
>>>>
>>>> if i stop using it for some time, when i try to get back to it, 
>>>> sometimes it takes some seconds to have focus
>>>> just an example...
>>>>
>>>> Thank You
>>>>
>>> Probably it got paged out by Windows and had to be reloaded.  Others 
>>> complain about this as well.  If you have prefetch active on the 
>>> WinXP system, then it might be easier to exit and reload each time.  
>>> Reloading here takes only a couple of seconds after the first load.
>>
>>
>>
>> My biggest gripe, speedwise, is the delay in switching between 
>> newsgroups. It may take anywhere from 12-30 seconds when changing 
>> groups. But I live with it as Mozilla is the only way to fly, IMHO.
>>
>> System: Compaq Presario upgraded to 950 MHz Athlon CPU from a 700 MHz 
>> Duron, 768 megs of ram, 60 gig HD (7200 rpm), Win XP Pro. ISP is 
>> Comcast with Giganews as newsgroup provider.
>>
> I suspect your problem is with Giganews.  Do you have the same problem 
> with the mozilla.org servers?  I work with about 20 newsgroups and 
> transitions are done with no perceptible delay.

It does appear that Giganews is the culprit. I'm tempted to try one of 
their other servers (using their Central server). And in response to 
another replier, I am on a cable connection (Comcast). I know that was 
in my original post - didn't know that Comcast had any dial up capability.

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Tony
11/7/2003 12:32:10 AM
Tony wrote:

> Ron Hunter wrote:
> 
>>Tony wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>C. Sousa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>i have Mozilla 1.5 installed on my XP PRO.
>>>>>256MB 1GH
>>>>>i have it allways minimized.
>>>>>
>>>>>if i stop using it for some time, when i try to get back to it, 
>>>>>sometimes it takes some seconds to have focus
>>>>>just an example...
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank You
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Probably it got paged out by Windows and had to be reloaded.  Others 
>>>>complain about this as well.  If you have prefetch active on the 
>>>>WinXP system, then it might be easier to exit and reload each time.  
>>>>Reloading here takes only a couple of seconds after the first load.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>My biggest gripe, speedwise, is the delay in switching between 
>>>newsgroups. It may take anywhere from 12-30 seconds when changing 
>>>groups. But I live with it as Mozilla is the only way to fly, IMHO.
>>>
>>>System: Compaq Presario upgraded to 950 MHz Athlon CPU from a 700 MHz 
>>>Duron, 768 megs of ram, 60 gig HD (7200 rpm), Win XP Pro. ISP is 
>>>Comcast with Giganews as newsgroup provider.
>>>
>>
>>I suspect your problem is with Giganews.  Do you have the same problem 
>>with the mozilla.org servers?  I work with about 20 newsgroups and 
>>transitions are done with no perceptible delay.
> 
> 
> It does appear that Giganews is the culprit. I'm tempted to try one of 
> their other servers (using their Central server). And in response to 
> another replier, I am on a cable connection (Comcast). I know that was 
> in my original post - didn't know that Comcast had any dial up capability.
> 
Sorry, Tony, I missed that.  I'm  also on Comcast and only use Giganews
if I need to access something that has dropped off Comcast's news server
due to archiving limits. You might try setting up an account for
netnews.comcast.net and see how that works for you.

-- 
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http://edmullen.net/moz.html
Mozilla Champions - http://mozillachampions.mozdev.org
Posting Guidelines - http://mozillachampions.mozdev.org/guidelines.html
Give me ambiguity or give me something else.

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Ed
11/7/2003 5:46:23 PM
Ed Mulllen wrote:
> Tony wrote:
> 
> 
>>Ron Hunter wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Tony wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>C. Sousa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>i have Mozilla 1.5 installed on my XP PRO.
>>>>>>256MB 1GH
>>>>>>i have it allways minimized.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>if i stop using it for some time, when i try to get back to it, 
>>>>>>sometimes it takes some seconds to have focus
>>>>>>just an example...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank You
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Probably it got paged out by Windows and had to be reloaded.  Others 
>>>>>complain about this as well.  If you have prefetch active on the 
>>>>>WinXP system, then it might be easier to exit and reload each time.  
>>>>>Reloading here takes only a couple of seconds after the first load.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>My biggest gripe, speedwise, is the delay in switching between 
>>>>newsgroups. It may take anywhere from 12-30 seconds when changing 
>>>>groups. But I live with it as Mozilla is the only way to fly, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>>System: Compaq Presario upgraded to 950 MHz Athlon CPU from a 700 MHz 
>>>>Duron, 768 megs of ram, 60 gig HD (7200 rpm), Win XP Pro. ISP is 
>>>>Comcast with Giganews as newsgroup provider.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I suspect your problem is with Giganews.  Do you have the same problem 
>>>with the mozilla.org servers?  I work with about 20 newsgroups and 
>>>transitions are done with no perceptible delay.
>>
>>
>>It does appear that Giganews is the culprit. I'm tempted to try one of 
>>their other servers (using their Central server). And in response to 
>>another replier, I am on a cable connection (Comcast). I know that was 
>>in my original post - didn't know that Comcast had any dial up capability.
>>
> 
> Sorry, Tony, I missed that.  I'm  also on Comcast and only use Giganews
> if I need to access something that has dropped off Comcast's news server
> due to archiving limits. You might try setting up an account for
> netnews.comcast.net and see how that works for you.
> 
I changed Giganews servers and that seemed to cure the problem. I live 
in NW FL and Comcast here only offers GigaNews. Don't know how it's 
handled elsewhere.

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Tony
11/8/2003 2:06:48 AM
Ron Hunter wrote:

> Probably it got paged out by Windows and had to be reloaded.  Others 
> complain about this as well.  If you have prefetch active on the WinXP 
> system, then it might be easier to exit and reload each time.  Reloading 
> here takes only a couple of seconds after the first load.

I can second that. I've seen that switching servers solved the problem 
for you. However, I'm connected to germany's biggest ISP (german 
telekom) via ADSL. Their servers are usually fast enough.

And it's not just switching between newsgroups. The entire app is 
absoplutely sluggish. While firebird in its last incarnations really 
kicks ass fast, the thunder comes rolling ever so slowly. Any operation 
on it.

I'm running thunderbird 0.4 on an apple iBook 600 with OS X 10.3.1 
(fully patched).

Alex
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Alexander
12/8/2003 9:10:41 PM
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