Disabling the default theme

I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The 
suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the 
problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the 
problem no longer occurs.

In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I started 
by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my Add-ons 
  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode the 
Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is 
disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How do I 
manually disable this Add-on ?

Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in 
Safe Mode ?
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On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
> problem no longer occurs.
>
> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I started
> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my Add-ons
>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode the
> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How do I
> manually disable this Add-on ?
>
> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
> Safe Mode ?
You could put in some other generic theme.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/
I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
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Big
4/19/2017 6:23:47 PM
On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
>> problem no longer occurs.
>>
>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I started
>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my Add-ons
>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode the
>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How do I
>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>
>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>> Safe Mode ?
> You could put in some other generic theme.
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 

I already have a different theme.

> 
> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.

So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, and my 
problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme must be 
enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my problem is a 
real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe mode.

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Edward
4/19/2017 6:40:07 PM
On 04/19/2017 02:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>
>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I started
>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my Add-ons
>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode the
>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How do I
>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>
>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>>> Safe Mode ?
>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/
>
>
> I already have a different theme.
>
>>
>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>
> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, and my
> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme must be
> enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my problem is a
> real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe mode.
>
Reload?
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Big
4/19/2017 6:49:28 PM
On 4/19/2017 2:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>
>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I started
>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my Add-ons
>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode the
>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How do I
>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>
>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>>> Safe Mode ?
>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
> 
> 
> I already have a different theme.
> 
>>
>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
> 
> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, and my 
> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme must be 
> enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my problem is a 
> real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe mode.
> 
Have you tried to disable the addon theme that you have installed in 
Thunderbird?

I ask this because you talked about disabling the extensions and said in 
the Safe Mode the Default theme was disabled.   Then when someone 
suggested installing a different theme you said you already have one.
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Keith
4/19/2017 6:58:23 PM
On 2017-04-19 13:15, Edward Diener wrote:
> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
> problem no longer occurs.
>
> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I starte=
d
> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my Add-on=
s
>   this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode th=
e
> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How do =
I
> manually disable this Add-on ?
>
> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
> Safe Mode ?

You disable the default theme by enabling another one.

Some kind of theme must be active, else you'll see nothing at all.
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Wolf
4/19/2017 7:47:10 PM
On 2017-04-19 14:40, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode th=
e
>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>
>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I star=
ted
>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my Add-=
ons
>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode t=
he
>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How d=
o I
>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>
>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in=

>>> Safe Mode ?
>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thun=
derbird/
> I already have a different theme.

Enable it.

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Wolf
4/19/2017 7:48:18 PM
On 4/19/17 2:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>
>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I 
>>> started
>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my 
>>> Add-ons
>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode the
>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How 
>>> do I
>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>
>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>>> Safe Mode ?
>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>
>
> I already have a different theme.
>
>>
>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>
> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, and my 
> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme must 
> be enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my problem 
> is a real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe 
> mode.
>

Safe mode also disables Hardware Acceleration. Do you have it enabled in 
production mode?

Options > Advanced > General tab.

Just for testing purposes I restarted my Firefox Nightly, where I am 
using one of the 3 themes that ship with it, in safe mode. Checking, the 
theme is listed as disabled, but is still being used.

I was curious on how an application works without a UI.

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WaltS48
4/19/2017 7:52:47 PM
On 4/19/2017 3:47 PM, Wolf K. wrote:
> On 2017-04-19 13:15, Edward Diener wrote:
>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
>> problem no longer occurs.
>>
>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I started
>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my Add-ons
>>   this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode the
>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How do I
>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>
>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>> Safe Mode ?
> 
> You disable the default theme by enabling another one.
> 
> Some kind of theme must be active, else you'll see nothing at all.

When I start in safe mode TB does say that all themes are disabled, even 
though I still see the UI correctly.

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Edward
4/19/2017 8:30:18 PM
On 4/19/2017 2:49 PM, Big Al wrote:
> On 04/19/2017 02:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>
>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I 
>>>> started
>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my 
>>>> Add-ons
>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode the
>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How 
>>>> do I
>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>
>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>
>>
>>
>> I already have a different theme.
>>
>>>
>>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>>
>> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, and my
>> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme must be
>> enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my problem is a
>> real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe mode.
>>
> Reload?

???

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Edward
4/19/2017 8:31:06 PM
On 4/19/2017 2:58 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 2:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>
>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I 
>>>> started
>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my 
>>>> Add-ons
>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode the
>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How 
>>>> do I
>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>
>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>
>>
>>
>> I already have a different theme.
>>
>>>
>>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>>
>> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, and my 
>> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme must 
>> be enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my problem 
>> is a real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe 
>> mode.
>>
> Have you tried to disable the addon theme that you have installed in 
> Thunderbird?
> 
> I ask this because you talked about disabling the extensions and said in 
> the Safe Mode the Default theme was disabled.   Then when someone 
> suggested installing a different theme you said you already have one.

When I disable the addon theme the Default theme is enabled. In safe 
mode it says that all themes are disabled. In safe mode my problem does 
not occur, whereas if the Default theme is enabled my problem does 
occur. Something else may be causing my problem but the only difference 
between safe mode and my normal mode, AFAICS, is this Default theme 
business. If it is something else I do not know how I can discover what 
it is unless I know exactly what safe mode is doing. I did try the safe 
mode option of checking both items in the initial safe mode dialog box 
and restarting, but my problem still occurs.

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Edward
4/19/2017 8:36:24 PM
On 4/19/2017 3:48 PM, Wolf K. wrote:
> On 2017-04-19 14:40, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>
>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I 
>>>> started
>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my 
>>>> Add-ons
>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode the
>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How 
>>>> do I
>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>
>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>
>> I already have a different theme.
> 
> Enable it.
> 

I have done so but my problem still occurs.
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Edward
4/19/2017 8:36:59 PM
On 4/19/2017 3:52 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 4/19/17 2:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>
>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I 
>>>> started
>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my 
>>>> Add-ons
>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode the
>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How 
>>>> do I
>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>
>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>
>>
>>
>> I already have a different theme.
>>
>>>
>>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>>
>> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, and my 
>> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme must 
>> be enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my problem 
>> is a real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe 
>> mode.
>>
> 
> Safe mode also disables Hardware Acceleration. Do you have it enabled in 
> production mode?
> 
> Options > Advanced > General tab.

Hardware acceleration is disabled, but my problem still occurs.

> 
> Just for testing purposes I restarted my Firefox Nightly, where I am 
> using one of the 3 themes that ship with it, in safe mode. Checking, the 
> theme is listed as disabled, but is still being used.
> 
> I was curious on how an application works without a UI.

You are undoubtedly correct but when in safe mode I look at my themes 
under Add-ons | Appearance they all say disabled. I also know that in 
safe mode my problem goes away whereas in normal mode, where some themes 
must be enabled, the problem occurs.
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Edward
4/19/2017 8:40:18 PM
On 2017-04-19 16:36, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 3:48 PM, Wolf K. wrote:
>> On 2017-04-19 14:40, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode =
the
>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>
>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>> started
>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode=
 the
>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How=

>>>>> do I
>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made =
in
>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-th=
underbird/
>>>>
>>> I already have a different theme.
>>
>> Enable it.
>>
>
> I have done so but my problem still occurs.

Ok, I don't know what your problem is. I probably read about it, but I=20
don't remember. Kindly refresh my memory, maybe that will trigger a=20
useful thought.



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Wolf
4/19/2017 8:41:46 PM
On 4/19/2017 4:41 PM, Wolf K. wrote:
> On 2017-04-19 16:36, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 3:48 PM, Wolf K. wrote:
>>> On 2017-04-19 14:40, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>>> started
>>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe 
>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How
>>>>>> do I
>>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>
>>> Enable it.
>>>
>>
>> I have done so but my problem still occurs.
> 
> Ok, I don't know what your problem is. I probably read about it, but I 
> don't remember. Kindly refresh my memory, maybe that will trigger a 
> useful thought.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
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Edward
4/19/2017 8:54:29 PM
On 04/19/2017 10:36 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> When I disable the addon theme the Default theme is enabled. In safe 
> mode it says that all themes are disabled. In safe mode my problem does 
> not occur, whereas if the Default theme is enabled my problem does 
> occur. Something else may be causing my problem but the only difference 
> between safe mode and my normal mode, AFAICS, is this Default theme 
> business. If it is something else I do not know how I can discover what 
> it is unless I know exactly what safe mode is doing. I did try the safe 
> mode option of checking both items in the initial safe mode dialog box 
> and restarting, but my problem still occurs.
In safe mode all extensions and complete themes are disabled, but 
apparently not the light weight themes (I tried it).
The most obvious other thing that is disabled are all of your UI 
customizations, these are stored in xulstore.json these days.
Try renaming or deleting that and see if your problem persists.
What is your problem, by the way, it might help to know.
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dillinger
4/19/2017 9:07:53 PM
On 4/19/17 4:54 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 4:41 PM, Wolf K. wrote:
>> On 2017-04-19 16:36, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> On 4/19/2017 3:48 PM, Wolf K. wrote:
>>>> On 2017-04-19 14:40, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe 
>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe 
>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How
>>>>>>> do I
>>>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are 
>>>>>>> made in
>>>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>>
>>>> Enable it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have done so but my problem still occurs.
>>
>> Ok, I don't know what your problem is. I probably read about it, but 
>> I don't remember. Kindly refresh my memory, maybe that will trigger a 
>> useful thought.
>
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770


Oh, that problem.

I had a look at that bug when I saw it pop up in the #tb-bugs channel on 
IRC earlier.

Unfortunately, I have no idea how a shared profile between Windows and 
Linux works.

My Linux is a desktop and Windows a laptop.

Is it with Thunderbird 55.0a1, or 52.0.1. Both?

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4/19/2017 9:14:00 PM
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On 19/04/2017 18:15, Edward Diener wrote:
> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The 
> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the 
> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the 
> problem no longer occurs.
>
> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I 
> started by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all 
> my Add-ons  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in 
> Safe Mode the Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default 
> theme", is disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling 
> it. How do I manually disable this Add-on ?
>
> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in 
> Safe Mode ?

It looks like that the best course of action for you is to "Refresh" 
firefox.  This means that your browser is reset to defaults with all 
add-ons disabled and your browser theme set to default.  Everything 
works after this is done. To do this, click on the hamburger icon as 
shown in the following picture:

http://i.imgur.com/2F04u48.png <http://i.imgur.com/2F04u48.png>

When you click on that icon, you now need to click on the ? icon as 
shown in this picture:

http://i.imgur.com/1Q7igPU.png <http://i.imgur.com/1Q7igPU.png>

after that you get this window from which you need to click: "Trouble 
Shooting Information"

http://i.imgur.com/zqoqeGi.png <http://i.imgur.com/zqoqeGi.png>

Refresh Firefox button is as shown in this picture:

http://i.imgur.com/abaF7a2.png <http://i.imgur.com/abaF7a2.png>

this will make your browser work normally and now you can enable all the 
Add-Ons one by one but testing the FF after each step to make sure 
everything works normally.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/04/2017 18:15, Edward Diener
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:mailman.1856.1492622135.10544.support-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org"
      type="cite">I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird
      as a bug. The suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode
      to see if the problem still exists. Indeed when I start
      Thunderbird in Safe Mode the problem no longer occurs.
      <br>
      <br>
      In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
      started by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable
      all my Add-ons  this the problem still occurs. However I can see
      that in Safe Mode the Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The
      default theme", is disabled, whereas I can find no means of
      manually disabling it. How do I manually disable this Add-on ?
      <br>
      <br>
      Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made
      in Safe Mode ?
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <font size="+1"><font face="Courier New">It looks like that the best
        course of action for you is to "Refresh" firefox.  This means
        that your browser is reset to defaults with all add-ons disabled
        and your browser theme set to default.  Everything works after
        this is done. To do this, click on the hamburger icon as shown
        in the following picture:<br>
        <br>
        <a href="http://i.imgur.com/2F04u48.png"><img
            alt="http://i.imgur.com/2F04u48.png"
            src="http://i.imgur.com/2F04u48.png" moz-do-not-send="true"
            border="2" height="145" width="392"></a><br>
        <br>
        When you click on that icon, you now need to click on the ? icon
        as shown in this picture:<br>
        <br>
        <a href="http://i.imgur.com/1Q7igPU.png"><img
            alt="http://i.imgur.com/1Q7igPU.png"
            src="http://i.imgur.com/1Q7igPU.png" moz-do-not-send="true"
            border="2" height="508" width="305"></a><br>
        <br>
        after that you get this window from which you need to click:
        "Trouble Shooting Information"<br>
        <br>
        <a href="http://i.imgur.com/zqoqeGi.png"><img
            alt="http://i.imgur.com/zqoqeGi.png"
            src="http://i.imgur.com/zqoqeGi.png" moz-do-not-send="true"
            border="2" height="506" width="305"></a><br>
        <br>
        Refresh Firefox button is as shown in this picture:<br>
        <br>
        <a href="http://i.imgur.com/abaF7a2.png"><img
            alt="http://i.imgur.com/abaF7a2.png"
            src="http://i.imgur.com/abaF7a2.png" moz-do-not-send="true"
            border="0" height="305" width="558"></a><br>
        <br>
        this will make your browser work normally and now you can enable
        all the Add-Ons one by one but testing the FF after each step to
        make sure everything works normally.<br>
      </font></font><br>
    <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
      <p>
        If you want to filter all of my posts then please read this
        article:<br>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/organize-your-messages-using-filters">&lt;https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/organize-your-messages-using-filters&gt;</a><br>
        In step 7 select "Delete"<br>
      </p>
      <div style="width: 330px; background-color: blue; color:
        yellow;font-weight: bolder; font-size:150%; text-align: center;
        margin: 30px 5px 30px 5px;">With over 500 million devices now
        running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any
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Oops!!!.  Ignore this.  Because your problem is in Thunderbird while I 
gave you the solution for Firefox.  I thought themes were common in FF 
but you are using TB and changing themes in it.




On 19/04/2017 22:17, Good Guy wrote:
> On 19/04/2017 18:15, Edward Diener wrote:
>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The 
>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the 
>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode 
>> the problem no longer occurs.
>>
>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I 
>> started by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all 
>> my Add-ons  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in 
>> Safe Mode the Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default 
>> theme", is disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually 
>> disabling it. How do I manually disable this Add-on ?
>>
>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in 
>> Safe Mode ?
>
> It looks like that the best course of action for you is to "Refresh" 
> firefox.  This means that your browser is reset to defaults with all 
> add-ons disabled and your browser theme set to default.  Everything 
> works after this is done. To do this, click on the hamburger icon as 
> shown in the following picture:
>
> http://i.imgur.com/2F04u48.png <http://i.imgur.com/2F04u48.png>
>
> When you click on that icon, you now need to click on the ? icon as 
> shown in this picture:
>
> http://i.imgur.com/1Q7igPU.png <http://i.imgur.com/1Q7igPU.png>
>
> after that you get this window from which you need to click: "Trouble 
> Shooting Information"
>
> http://i.imgur.com/zqoqeGi.png <http://i.imgur.com/zqoqeGi.png>
>
> Refresh Firefox button is as shown in this picture:
>
> http://i.imgur.com/abaF7a2.png <http://i.imgur.com/abaF7a2.png>
>
> this will make your browser work normally and now you can enable all 
> the Add-Ons one by one but testing the FF after each step to make sure 
> everything works normally.
>
> -- 
>
> If you want to filter all of my posts then please read this article:
> <https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/organize-your-messages-using-filters>
> In step 7 select "Delete"
>
> With over 500 million devices now running Windows 10, customer 
> satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.


-- 

If you want to filter all of my posts then please read this article:
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In step 7 select "Delete"

With over 500 million devices now running Windows 10, customer 
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Oops!!!.  Ignore this.  Because your
      problem is in Thunderbird while I gave you the solution for
      Firefox.  I thought themes were common in FF but you are using TB
      and changing themes in it.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 19/04/2017 22:17, Good Guy wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:mailman.1920.1492636708.10543.support-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org"
      type="cite">
      <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/04/2017 18:15, Edward Diener
        wrote:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote
cite="mid:mailman.1856.1492622135.10544.support-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org"
        type="cite">I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird
        as a bug. The suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe
        Mode to see if the problem still exists. Indeed when I start
        Thunderbird in Safe Mode the problem no longer occurs. <br>
        <br>
        In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
        started by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually
        disable all my Add-ons  this the problem still occurs. However I
        can see that in Safe Mode the Appearance Add-on called
        "Default", for "The default theme", is disabled, whereas I can
        find no means of manually disabling it. How do I manually
        disable this Add-on ? <br>
        <br>
        Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are
        made in Safe Mode ? <br>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      <font size="+1"><font face="Courier New">It looks like that the
          best course of action for you is to "Refresh" firefox.  This
          means that your browser is reset to defaults with all add-ons
          disabled and your browser theme set to default.  Everything
          works after this is done. To do this, click on the hamburger
          icon as shown in the following picture:<br>
          <br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://i.imgur.com/2F04u48.png"><img
              alt="http://i.imgur.com/2F04u48.png"
              src="http://i.imgur.com/2F04u48.png"
              moz-do-not-send="true" border="2" height="145" width="392"></a><br>
          <br>
          When you click on that icon, you now need to click on the ?
          icon as shown in this picture:<br>
          <br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://i.imgur.com/1Q7igPU.png"><img
              alt="http://i.imgur.com/1Q7igPU.png"
              src="http://i.imgur.com/1Q7igPU.png"
              moz-do-not-send="true" border="2" height="508" width="305"></a><br>
          <br>
          after that you get this window from which you need to click:
          "Trouble Shooting Information"<br>
          <br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://i.imgur.com/zqoqeGi.png"><img
              alt="http://i.imgur.com/zqoqeGi.png"
              src="http://i.imgur.com/zqoqeGi.png"
              moz-do-not-send="true" border="2" height="506" width="305"></a><br>
          <br>
          Refresh Firefox button is as shown in this picture:<br>
          <br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://i.imgur.com/abaF7a2.png"><img
              alt="http://i.imgur.com/abaF7a2.png"
              src="http://i.imgur.com/abaF7a2.png"
              moz-do-not-send="true" border="0" height="305" width="558"></a><br>
          <br>
          this will make your browser work normally and now you can
          enable all the Add-Ons one by one but testing the FF after
          each step to make sure everything works normally.<br>
        </font></font><br>
      <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
        <p> If you want to filter all of my posts then please read this
          article:<br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/organize-your-messages-using-filters">&lt;https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/organize-your-messages-using-filters&gt;</a><br>
          In step 7 select "Delete"<br>
        </p>
        <div style="width: 330px; background-color: blue; color:
          yellow;font-weight: bolder; font-size:150%; text-align:
          center; margin: 30px 5px 30px 5px;">With over 500 million
          devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is
          higher than any previous version of windows.</div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
      <p>
        If you want to filter all of my posts then please read this
        article:<br>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/organize-your-messages-using-filters">&lt;https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/organize-your-messages-using-filters&gt;</a><br>
        In step 7 select "Delete"<br>
      </p>
      <div style="width: 330px; background-color: blue; color:
        yellow;font-weight: bolder; font-size:150%; text-align: center;
        margin: 30px 5px 30px 5px;">With over 500 million devices now
        running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any
        previous version of windows.</div>
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Good
4/19/2017 9:26:17 PM
On 04/19/2017 04:31 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 2:49 PM, Big Al wrote:
>> On 04/19/2017 02:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>
>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>> started
>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode
>>>>> the
>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How
>>>>> do I
>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>>>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>>>
>>> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, and my
>>> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme must be
>>> enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my problem is a
>>> real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe mode.
>>>
>> Reload?
>
> ???
>
Reload Thunderbird.   Uninstall and re-install might be a better way to 
say it.

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Big
4/19/2017 11:32:01 PM
On 04/19/2017 04:54 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 4:41 PM, Wolf K. wrote:
>> On 2017-04-19 16:36, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> On 4/19/2017 3:48 PM, Wolf K. wrote:
>>>> On 2017-04-19 14:40, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe
>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe
>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How
>>>>>>> do I
>>>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are
>>>>>>> made in
>>>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>>
>>>> Enable it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have done so but my problem still occurs.
>>
>> Ok, I don't know what your problem is. I probably read about it, but I
>> don't remember. Kindly refresh my memory, maybe that will trigger a
>> useful thought.
>
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
I'm wondering about any hard coded path names in any prefs.js or such. 
I've moved config files for other programs and have had issues with paths.

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Big
4/19/2017 11:35:43 PM
On 4/19/17 7:32 PM, Big Al wrote:
> On 04/19/2017 04:31 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 2:49 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>> On 04/19/2017 02:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe 
>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>>> started
>>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How
>>>>>> do I
>>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are 
>>>>>> made in
>>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>>>>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>>>>
>>>> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, and my
>>>> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme 
>>>> must be
>>>> enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my problem 
>>>> is a
>>>> real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe mode.
>>>>
>>> Reload?
>>
>> ???
>>
> Reload Thunderbird.   Uninstall and re-install might be a better way 
> to say it.
>

I guess that would be the Windows Thunderbird, that doesn't show any 
content in the application, sharing a profile with the Linux Thunderbird 
that does show all content.

Doubt that will solve the problem.

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WaltS48
4/20/2017 2:25:50 AM
On 4/19/2017 5:17 PM, Good Guy wrote:
> On 19/04/2017 18:15, Edward Diener wrote:
>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The 
>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the 
>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the 
>> problem no longer occurs.
>>
>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I 
>> started by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all 
>> my Add-ons  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in 
>> Safe Mode the Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default 
>> theme", is disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling 
>> it. How do I manually disable this Add-on ?
>>
>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in 
>> Safe Mode ?
> 
> It looks like that the best course of action for you is to "Refresh" 
> firefox. 

Except that this is about Thunderbird, right ?
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Edward
4/20/2017 2:39:45 AM
On 4/19/2017 5:07 PM, dillinger wrote:
> On 04/19/2017 10:36 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> When I disable the addon theme the Default theme is enabled. In safe 
>> mode it says that all themes are disabled. In safe mode my problem 
>> does not occur, whereas if the Default theme is enabled my problem 
>> does occur. Something else may be causing my problem but the only 
>> difference between safe mode and my normal mode, AFAICS, is this 
>> Default theme business. If it is something else I do not know how I 
>> can discover what it is unless I know exactly what safe mode is doing. 
>> I did try the safe mode option of checking both items in the initial 
>> safe mode dialog box and restarting, but my problem still occurs.
> In safe mode all extensions and complete themes are disabled, but 
> apparently not the light weight themes (I tried it).
> The most obvious other thing that is disabled are all of your UI 
> customizations, these are stored in xulstore.json these days.
> Try renaming or deleting that and see if your problem persists.
> What is your problem, by the way, it might help to know.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770

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Edward
4/20/2017 2:40:06 AM
On 4/19/2017 5:14 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 4/19/17 4:54 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 4:41 PM, Wolf K. wrote:
>>> On 2017-04-19 16:36, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> On 4/19/2017 3:48 PM, Wolf K. wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-04-19 14:40, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe 
>>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe 
>>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How
>>>>>>>> do I
>>>>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are 
>>>>>>>> made in
>>>>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>>>
>>>>> Enable it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have done so but my problem still occurs.
>>>
>>> Ok, I don't know what your problem is. I probably read about it, but 
>>> I don't remember. Kindly refresh my memory, maybe that will trigger a 
>>> useful thought.
>>
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
> 
> 
> Oh, that problem.
> 
> I had a look at that bug when I saw it pop up in the #tb-bugs channel on 
> IRC earlier.
> 
> Unfortunately, I have no idea how a shared profile between Windows and 
> Linux works.
> 
> My Linux is a desktop and Windows a laptop.
> 
> Is it with Thunderbird 55.0a1, or 52.0.1. Both?

52.0.1. But it happened earlier with TB releases in the 40s also.

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Edward
4/20/2017 2:41:39 AM
On 4/19/2017 7:32 PM, Big Al wrote:
> On 04/19/2017 04:31 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 2:49 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>> On 04/19/2017 02:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>>> started
>>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How
>>>>>> do I
>>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>>>>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>>>>
>>>> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, and my
>>>> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme 
>>>> must be
>>>> enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my problem 
>>>> is a
>>>> real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe mode.
>>>>
>>> Reload?
>>
>> ???
>>
> Reload Thunderbird.   Uninstall and re-install might be a better way to 
> say it.

I have already installed TB on a separate computer and, using my 
profile, the problem continued to happen.


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Edward
4/20/2017 2:43:26 AM
On 4/19/2017 7:35 PM, Big Al wrote:
> On 04/19/2017 04:54 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 4:41 PM, Wolf K. wrote:
>>> On 2017-04-19 16:36, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> On 4/19/2017 3:48 PM, Wolf K. wrote:
>>>>> On 2017-04-19 14:40, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe
>>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe
>>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How
>>>>>>>> do I
>>>>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are
>>>>>>>> made in
>>>>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>>>
>>>>> Enable it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have done so but my problem still occurs.
>>>
>>> Ok, I don't know what your problem is. I probably read about it, but I
>>> don't remember. Kindly refresh my memory, maybe that will trigger a
>>> useful thought.
>>
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
> I'm wondering about any hard coded path names in any prefs.js or such. 
> I've moved config files for other programs and have had issues with paths.

I will take a look. Thanks !
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Edward
4/20/2017 2:44:16 AM
On 4/19/2017 10:25 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 4/19/17 7:32 PM, Big Al wrote:
>> On 04/19/2017 04:31 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> On 4/19/2017 2:49 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>> On 04/19/2017 02:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe 
>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How
>>>>>>> do I
>>>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are 
>>>>>>> made in
>>>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>>>>>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>>>>>
>>>>> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, and my
>>>>> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme 
>>>>> must be
>>>>> enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my problem 
>>>>> is a
>>>>> real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe mode.
>>>>>
>>>> Reload?
>>>
>>> ???
>>>
>> Reload Thunderbird.   Uninstall and re-install might be a better way 
>> to say it.
>>
> 
> I guess that would be the Windows Thunderbird, that doesn't show any 
> content in the application, sharing a profile with the Linux Thunderbird 
> that does show all content.

Exactly. It works fine under Linux, but in Windows the problem occurs.

> 
> Doubt that will solve the problem.
> 


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Edward
4/20/2017 2:45:57 AM
On 04/20/2017 04:40 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 5:07 PM, dillinger wrote:
>> On 04/19/2017 10:36 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> When I disable the addon theme the Default theme is enabled. In safe 
>>> mode it says that all themes are disabled. In safe mode my problem 
>>> does not occur, whereas if the Default theme is enabled my problem 
>>> does occur. Something else may be causing my problem but the only 
>>> difference between safe mode and my normal mode, AFAICS, is this 
>>> Default theme business. If it is something else I do not know how I 
>>> can discover what it is unless I know exactly what safe mode is 
>>> doing. I did try the safe mode option of checking both items in the 
>>> initial safe mode dialog box and restarting, but my problem still 
>>> occurs.
>> In safe mode all extensions and complete themes are disabled, but 
>> apparently not the light weight themes (I tried it).
>> The most obvious other thing that is disabled are all of your UI 
>> customizations, these are stored in xulstore.json these days.
>> Try renaming or deleting that and see if your problem persists.
>> What is your problem, by the way, it might help to know.
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
> 
What exactly are you sharing between Windows and Linux? Everything?
I'm asking because although I've never shared profiles between Windows 
and Linux I have copied them both ways and copying from Windows to Linux 
always gave better results than copying from Linux to Windows.
A possible workaround could be to have 2 separate profiles that share 
the same Local directory. I have a few profiles here and they all use 
the same Local directories, I've never had a problem with that. That way 
you can share your mail between them but there won't be any conflicting 
extensions etc.
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dillinger
4/20/2017 4:30:38 AM
On 4/19/17 10:45 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 10:25 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>> On 4/19/17 7:32 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>> On 04/19/2017 04:31 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:49 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>> On 04/19/2017 02:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe 
>>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe 
>>>>>>>> Mode
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. 
>>>>>>>> How
>>>>>>>> do I
>>>>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are 
>>>>>>>> made in
>>>>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>>>>>>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, 
>>>>>> and my
>>>>>> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme 
>>>>>> must be
>>>>>> enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my 
>>>>>> problem is a
>>>>>> real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe 
>>>>>> mode.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Reload?
>>>>
>>>> ???
>>>>
>>> Reload Thunderbird.   Uninstall and re-install might be a better way 
>>> to say it.
>>>
>>
>> I guess that would be the Windows Thunderbird, that doesn't show any 
>> content in the application, sharing a profile with the Linux 
>> Thunderbird that does show all content.
>
> Exactly. It works fine under Linux, but in Windows the problem occurs.
>
>

Are you using the same theme in each Thunderbird?

You could have Theme A set for the Windows Thunderbird, Theme B for the 
Linux Thunderbird.

When you open the Windows Thunderbird it is looking for Theme B, doesn't 
find it and doesn't display.

Themes are stored in the extensions folder of the profile.

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WaltS48
4/20/2017 12:26:34 PM
On 4/20/2017 12:30 AM, dillinger wrote:
> On 04/20/2017 04:40 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 5:07 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>> On 04/19/2017 10:36 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> When I disable the addon theme the Default theme is enabled. In safe 
>>>> mode it says that all themes are disabled. In safe mode my problem 
>>>> does not occur, whereas if the Default theme is enabled my problem 
>>>> does occur. Something else may be causing my problem but the only 
>>>> difference between safe mode and my normal mode, AFAICS, is this 
>>>> Default theme business. If it is something else I do not know how I 
>>>> can discover what it is unless I know exactly what safe mode is 
>>>> doing. I did try the safe mode option of checking both items in the 
>>>> initial safe mode dialog box and restarting, but my problem still 
>>>> occurs.
>>> In safe mode all extensions and complete themes are disabled, but 
>>> apparently not the light weight themes (I tried it).
>>> The most obvious other thing that is disabled are all of your UI 
>>> customizations, these are stored in xulstore.json these days.
>>> Try renaming or deleting that and see if your problem persists.
>>> What is your problem, by the way, it might help to know.
>>
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
>>
> What exactly are you sharing between Windows and Linux? Everything?
> I'm asking because although I've never shared profiles between Windows 
> and Linux I have copied them both ways and copying from Windows to Linux 
> always gave better results than copying from Linux to Windows.
> A possible workaround could be to have 2 separate profiles that share 
> the same Local directory. I have a few profiles here and they all use 
> the same Local directories, I've never had a problem with that. That way 
> you can share your mail between them but there won't be any conflicting 
> extensions etc.
One of the questions that I have is when you check the for the Profile 
in Help Troubleshooting, and Click the Profile Folder, does the same 
profile folder open in all three incidences; Linux, Standard 
Thunderbird, and Safe Mode Thunderbird.

It almost sounds like in some way in the TB Standard mode it is opening 
a different profile that in the Safe Mode TB and Linux.
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Keith
4/20/2017 12:46:38 PM
On 4/19/2017 10:43 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 7:32 PM, Big Al wrote:
>> On 04/19/2017 04:31 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> On 4/19/2017 2:49 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>> On 04/19/2017 02:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe 
>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How
>>>>>>> do I
>>>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are 
>>>>>>> made in
>>>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>>>>>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>>>>>
>>>>> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, and my
>>>>> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme 
>>>>> must be
>>>>> enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my problem 
>>>>> is a
>>>>> real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe mode.
>>>>>
>>>> Reload?
>>>
>>> ???
>>>
>> Reload Thunderbird.   Uninstall and re-install might be a better way 
>> to say it.
> 
> I have already installed TB on a separate computer and, using my 
> profile, the problem continued to happen.
> 
> 
When you copied your profile what did you copy.  At a minimum you should 
be copying both the folder Profile and the file Profile.ini   They are 
in the same folder in the random character folder.

If you don't copy the Profile.ini TB will not go to the correct Profile 
folder.
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Keith
4/20/2017 12:49:44 PM
On 2017-04-19 22:41, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 5:14 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>> On 4/19/17 4:54 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
[...]
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D1357770
>>
>>
>> Oh, that problem.
>>
>> I had a look at that bug when I saw it pop up in the #tb-bugs channel =
on
>> IRC earlier.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I have no idea how a shared profile between Windows and=

>> Linux works.

The last time I did this, about five years ago, I referred the Linux=20
TBird to the Profile on Windows C:. It worked, but I tended to use=20
Windows more than Linux, (and eventually replaced that box). It seemed=20
simpler to me to refer Linux to the Windows Profile than to refer both=20
to a shared profile on a shared partition.

Ed, where is the shared Profile? I'd like to know because I've begun=20
setting up our ancient laptop as dual-boot Win7/Linux Mint. Your=20
experience will obviously be helpful. Thanks for being an experimental=20
subject. :-)

>> My Linux is a desktop and Windows a laptop.
>>
>> Is it with Thunderbird 55.0a1, or 52.0.1. Both?
>
> 52.0.1. But it happened earlier with TB releases in the 40s also.

In which case, IMO it's definitely a problem with how the Profile is=20
shared. But I haven't a clue how to ID the problem, let alone fix it.

--=20
Wolf K.
https://kirkwood40.blogspot.com
"What good is it having lower taxes when you can=E2=80=99t drink the wate=
r?=E2=80=9D

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Wolf
4/20/2017 2:55:00 PM
On 4/19/2017 10:45 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 10:25 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>> On 4/19/17 7:32 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>> On 04/19/2017 04:31 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:49 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>> On 04/19/2017 02:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe 
>>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe 
>>>>>>>> Mode
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. 
>>>>>>>> How
>>>>>>>> do I
>>>>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are 
>>>>>>>> made in
>>>>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>>>>>>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, 
>>>>>> and my
>>>>>> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme 
>>>>>> must be
>>>>>> enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my 
>>>>>> problem is a
>>>>>> real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe 
>>>>>> mode.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Reload?
>>>>
>>>> ???
>>>>
>>> Reload Thunderbird.   Uninstall and re-install might be a better way 
>>> to say it.
>>>
>>
>> I guess that would be the Windows Thunderbird, that doesn't show any 
>> content in the application, sharing a profile with the Linux 
>> Thunderbird that does show all content.
>
> Exactly. It works fine under Linux, but in Windows the problem occurs.
>

I took a look at the screen shots in the bug report and it appears you 
are using a Walnut theme.

I installed both Walnut and Walnut2 in my Thunderbird 52.0.1 on Windows 10.

Both are working as expected.


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WaltS48
4/20/2017 3:32:10 PM
On 4/20/2017 12:30 AM, dillinger wrote:
> On 04/20/2017 04:40 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 5:07 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>> On 04/19/2017 10:36 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> When I disable the addon theme the Default theme is enabled. In safe 
>>>> mode it says that all themes are disabled. In safe mode my problem 
>>>> does not occur, whereas if the Default theme is enabled my problem 
>>>> does occur. Something else may be causing my problem but the only 
>>>> difference between safe mode and my normal mode, AFAICS, is this 
>>>> Default theme business. If it is something else I do not know how I 
>>>> can discover what it is unless I know exactly what safe mode is 
>>>> doing. I did try the safe mode option of checking both items in the 
>>>> initial safe mode dialog box and restarting, but my problem still 
>>>> occurs.
>>> In safe mode all extensions and complete themes are disabled, but 
>>> apparently not the light weight themes (I tried it).
>>> The most obvious other thing that is disabled are all of your UI 
>>> customizations, these are stored in xulstore.json these days.
>>> Try renaming or deleting that and see if your problem persists.
>>> What is your problem, by the way, it might help to know.
>>
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
>>
> What exactly are you sharing between Windows and Linux? Everything?

Yes.

There are different profiles.ini files, but they both point to the same 
shared Thunderbird directory where the profile resides on an NTFS partition.

> I'm asking because although I've never shared profiles between Windows 
> and Linux I have copied them both ways and copying from Windows to Linux 
> always gave better results than copying from Linux to Windows.
> A possible workaround could be to have 2 separate profiles that share 
> the same Local directory.

What do you mean by "local directory" ?

> I have a few profiles here and they all use 
> the same Local directories, I've never had a problem with that. That way 
> you can share your mail between them but there won't be any conflicting 
> extensions etc.

Are the extensions themselves stored in the Thunderbird profile ?

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Edward
4/20/2017 3:39:05 PM
On 4/20/2017 8:26 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 4/19/17 10:45 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 10:25 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 4/19/17 7:32 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>> On 04/19/2017 04:31 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:49 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 02:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe 
>>>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe 
>>>>>>>>> Mode
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. 
>>>>>>>>> How
>>>>>>>>> do I
>>>>>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are 
>>>>>>>>> made in
>>>>>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>>>>>>>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, 
>>>>>>> and my
>>>>>>> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme 
>>>>>>> must be
>>>>>>> enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my 
>>>>>>> problem is a
>>>>>>> real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe 
>>>>>>> mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reload?
>>>>>
>>>>> ???
>>>>>
>>>> Reload Thunderbird.   Uninstall and re-install might be a better way 
>>>> to say it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I guess that would be the Windows Thunderbird, that doesn't show any 
>>> content in the application, sharing a profile with the Linux 
>>> Thunderbird that does show all content.
>>
>> Exactly. It works fine under Linux, but in Windows the problem occurs.
>>
>>
> 
> Are you using the same theme in each Thunderbird?

Yes. Are themes not cross-platform ? The theme I use is Walnut2. But 
even when I switched from Walnut2 to the Default theme my problem still 
occurs. Only when I start in safe mode, and TB tells me that all my 
themes are "disabled", does my problem go away. Yet when i manually 
switched to the Default theme the probllem still occurs.

> 
> You could have Theme A set for the Windows Thunderbird, Theme B for the 
> Linux Thunderbird.

Is theme information stored in the Thunderbird profile directory ? If so 
I do not see how I can have a different theme for one and not the other 
if my profile is pointing to the same Thunderbird profile directory on both.

> 
> When you open the Windows Thunderbird it is looking for Theme B, doesn't 
> find it and doesn't display.

When it does not display it is still using the same theme.

> 
> Themes are stored in the extensions folder of the profile.
> 

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Edward
4/20/2017 3:45:56 PM
On 4/20/2017 8:49 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 10:43 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 7:32 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>> On 04/19/2017 04:31 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:49 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>> On 04/19/2017 02:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe 
>>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How
>>>>>>>> do I
>>>>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are 
>>>>>>>> made in
>>>>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>>>>>>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, and my
>>>>>> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme 
>>>>>> must be
>>>>>> enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my 
>>>>>> problem is a
>>>>>> real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe mode.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Reload?
>>>>
>>>> ???
>>>>
>>> Reload Thunderbird.   Uninstall and re-install might be a better way 
>>> to say it.
>>
>> I have already installed TB on a separate computer and, using my 
>> profile, the problem continued to happen.
>>
>>
> When you copied your profile what did you copy.  At a minimum you should 
> be copying both the folder Profile and the file Profile.ini   They are 
> in the same folder in the random character folder.

There is no need to copy the profiles.ini folder. I just modify it to 
point to the profile folder, which remains the same.

> 
> If you don't copy the Profile.ini TB will not go to the correct Profile 
> folder.

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Edward
4/20/2017 3:52:28 PM
On 4/20/2017 8:46 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> On 4/20/2017 12:30 AM, dillinger wrote:
>> On 04/20/2017 04:40 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> On 4/19/2017 5:07 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>>> On 04/19/2017 10:36 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> When I disable the addon theme the Default theme is enabled. In 
>>>>> safe mode it says that all themes are disabled. In safe mode my 
>>>>> problem does not occur, whereas if the Default theme is enabled my 
>>>>> problem does occur. Something else may be causing my problem but 
>>>>> the only difference between safe mode and my normal mode, AFAICS, 
>>>>> is this Default theme business. If it is something else I do not 
>>>>> know how I can discover what it is unless I know exactly what safe 
>>>>> mode is doing. I did try the safe mode option of checking both 
>>>>> items in the initial safe mode dialog box and restarting, but my 
>>>>> problem still occurs.
>>>> In safe mode all extensions and complete themes are disabled, but 
>>>> apparently not the light weight themes (I tried it).
>>>> The most obvious other thing that is disabled are all of your UI 
>>>> customizations, these are stored in xulstore.json these days.
>>>> Try renaming or deleting that and see if your problem persists.
>>>> What is your problem, by the way, it might help to know.
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
>>>
>> What exactly are you sharing between Windows and Linux? Everything?
>> I'm asking because although I've never shared profiles between Windows 
>> and Linux I have copied them both ways and copying from Windows to 
>> Linux always gave better results than copying from Linux to Windows.
>> A possible workaround could be to have 2 separate profiles that share 
>> the same Local directory. I have a few profiles here and they all use 
>> the same Local directories, I've never had a problem with that. That 
>> way you can share your mail between them but there won't be any 
>> conflicting extensions etc.
> One of the questions that I have is when you check the for the Profile 
> in Help Troubleshooting, and Click the Profile Folder, does the same 
> profile folder open in all three incidences; Linux, Standard 
> Thunderbird, and Safe Mode Thunderbird.
> 
> It almost sounds like in some way in the TB Standard mode it is opening 
> a different profile that in the Safe Mode TB and Linux.

I checked and it is the same folder in all 3 cases.

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Edward
4/20/2017 3:53:08 PM
On 4/20/2017 10:55 AM, Wolf K. wrote:
> On 2017-04-19 22:41, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 5:14 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 4/19/17 4:54 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> [...]
>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, that problem.
>>>
>>> I had a look at that bug when I saw it pop up in the #tb-bugs channel on
>>> IRC earlier.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I have no idea how a shared profile between Windows and
>>> Linux works.
> 
> The last time I did this, about five years ago, I referred the Linux 
> TBird to the Profile on Windows C:. It worked, but I tended to use 
> Windows more than Linux, (and eventually replaced that box). It seemed 
> simpler to me to refer Linux to the Windows Profile than to refer both 
> to a shared profile on a shared partition.
> 
> Ed, where is the shared Profile? I'd like to know because I've begun 
> setting up our ancient laptop as dual-boot Win7/Linux Mint. Your 
> experience will obviously be helpful. Thanks for being an experimental 
> subject. :-)

It is on an NTFS partition shared between Windowsa and Linux.

> 
>>> My Linux is a desktop and Windows a laptop.
>>>
>>> Is it with Thunderbird 55.0a1, or 52.0.1. Both?
>>
>> 52.0.1. But it happened earlier with TB releases in the 40s also.
> 
> In which case, IMO it's definitely a problem with how the Profile is 
> shared. But I haven't a clue how to ID the problem, let alone fix it.

In my bug report I offered to upload the profile for testing purposes, 
but as soon as I mentioned I was sharing the profile between Windows and 
Linux I was told it was not supported and the bug report was "resolved".

> 

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Edward
4/20/2017 3:56:10 PM
On 4/20/2017 11:32 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 4/19/2017 10:45 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/19/2017 10:25 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 4/19/17 7:32 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>> On 04/19/2017 04:31 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:49 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 02:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/19/2017 2:23 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 01:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>>>>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>>>>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe 
>>>>>>>>> Mode the
>>>>>>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I
>>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my
>>>>>>>>> Add-ons
>>>>>>>>>  this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe 
>>>>>>>>> Mode
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>>>>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. 
>>>>>>>>> How
>>>>>>>>> do I
>>>>>>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are 
>>>>>>>>> made in
>>>>>>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>>>>> You could put in some other generic theme.
>>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nautipolis-for-thunderbird/ 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I already have a different theme.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use this as it's not bright colors etc like some.
>>>>>>>> I would say you can't disable it but you can replace it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So safe mode disables all themes, including the default theme, 
>>>>>>> and my
>>>>>>> problem does not occur. Whereas in normal mode, where some theme 
>>>>>>> must be
>>>>>>> enabled, my problem does occur. This suggests again that my 
>>>>>>> problem is a
>>>>>>> real Thunderbird problem, even though it does not occur in safe 
>>>>>>> mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reload?
>>>>>
>>>>> ???
>>>>>
>>>> Reload Thunderbird.   Uninstall and re-install might be a better way 
>>>> to say it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I guess that would be the Windows Thunderbird, that doesn't show any 
>>> content in the application, sharing a profile with the Linux 
>>> Thunderbird that does show all content.
>>
>> Exactly. It works fine under Linux, but in Windows the problem occurs.
>>
> 
> I took a look at the screen shots in the bug report and it appears you 
> are using a Walnut theme.

Actually Walnut2. But even when I switched to the Default theme the 
problem still occurred.

> 
> I installed both Walnut and Walnut2 in my Thunderbird 52.0.1 on Windows 10.
> 
> Both are working as expected.
> 
> 

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Edward
4/20/2017 3:57:39 PM
On 04/20/2017 05:39 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/20/2017 12:30 AM, dillinger wrote:
>> On 04/20/2017 04:40 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> On 4/19/2017 5:07 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>>> On 04/19/2017 10:36 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> When I disable the addon theme the Default theme is enabled. In 
>>>>> safe mode it says that all themes are disabled. In safe mode my 
>>>>> problem does not occur, whereas if the Default theme is enabled my 
>>>>> problem does occur. Something else may be causing my problem but 
>>>>> the only difference between safe mode and my normal mode, AFAICS, 
>>>>> is this Default theme business. If it is something else I do not 
>>>>> know how I can discover what it is unless I know exactly what safe 
>>>>> mode is doing. I did try the safe mode option of checking both 
>>>>> items in the initial safe mode dialog box and restarting, but my 
>>>>> problem still occurs.
>>>> In safe mode all extensions and complete themes are disabled, but 
>>>> apparently not the light weight themes (I tried it).
>>>> The most obvious other thing that is disabled are all of your UI 
>>>> customizations, these are stored in xulstore.json these days.
>>>> Try renaming or deleting that and see if your problem persists.
>>>> What is your problem, by the way, it might help to know.
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
>>>
>> What exactly are you sharing between Windows and Linux? Everything?
> 
> Yes.
> 
Ok , that's what I thought.

> There are different profiles.ini files, but they both point to the same 
> shared Thunderbird directory where the profile resides on an NTFS 
> partition.
> 
>> I'm asking because although I've never shared profiles between Windows 
>> and Linux I have copied them both ways and copying from Windows to 
>> Linux always gave better results than copying from Linux to Windows.
>> A possible workaround could be to have 2 separate profiles that share 
>> the same Local directory.
> 
> What do you mean by "local directory" ?
> 
In account settings > account > server settings you can choose a "local 
directory" where Thunderbird stores its mail. At the bottom.

>> I have a few profiles here and they all use the same Local 
>> directories, I've never had a problem with that. That way you can 
>> share your mail between them but there won't be any conflicting 
>> extensions etc.
> 
Over here the local directories in all profiles are
  /home/michel/.thunderbird/shared/ImapMail/server
This way I share my mail between different profiles with different 
extensions and Thunderbird versions etc. without unnecessary restarts or 
extension updates that break another profile.

> Are the extensions themselves stored in the Thunderbird profile ?
> 
Yes, they are stored in /profilefolder/extensions/
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dillinger
4/20/2017 4:23:49 PM
On 4/19/17 12:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
> problem no longer occurs.
> 
> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I started
> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my Add-ons
>    this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode the
> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How do I
> manually disable this Add-on ?
> 
> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
> Safe Mode ?
> 
Start TB in safe mode (hold Shift when you launch), then, at the prompt, 
check 'Reset Toolbars and Controls' and click 'Make Changes and 
Restart'.  This will test whether your problem is due to a broken 
layout, since you have ruled out add-ons.  If the problem persists, 
disable hardware acceleration if it's enabled in Tools/Options/Advanced.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode#Safe_Mode_options
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Steve
4/20/2017 5:08:02 PM
On 04/20/2017 01:08 PM, Steve wrote:
> On 4/19/17 12:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
>> problem no longer occurs.
>>
>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I started
>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my Add-ons
>>    this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode the
>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How do I
>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>
>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>> Safe Mode ?
>>
> Start TB in safe mode (hold Shift when you launch), then, at the prompt, 
> check 'Reset Toolbars and Controls' and click 'Make Changes and 
> Restart'.  This will test whether your problem is due to a broken 
> layout, since you have ruled out add-ons.  If the problem persists, 
> disable hardware acceleration if it's enabled in Tools/Options/Advanced.

I already tried these things without solving my problem. In safe mode 
the problem does not occur. I did check the two items and restarted. 
This did not solve the problem. Hardware acceleration has always been off.

The idea of course is to find out what the difference is between safe 
mode, where the problem does not occur, and normal mode, where the 
problem does occur. But so far no luck. It is an annoyance on Windows to 
have to open TB, close it, then reopen TB to have everything working 
properly. But it seems I will have to live with that as the bugzilla 
report will not be invesigated. On Linux everything works properly the 
first time.

> 
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode#Safe_Mode_options

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Edward
4/20/2017 8:45:08 PM
On 4/20/17 3:45 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 04/20/2017 01:08 PM, Steve wrote:
>> On 4/19/17 12:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>
>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I started
>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my Add-ons
>>>     this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe Mode the
>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How do I
>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>
>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>
>> Start TB in safe mode (hold Shift when you launch), then, at the prompt,
>> check 'Reset Toolbars and Controls' and click 'Make Changes and
>> Restart'.  This will test whether your problem is due to a broken
>> layout, since you have ruled out add-ons.  If the problem persists,
>> disable hardware acceleration if it's enabled in Tools/Options/Advanced.
> 
> I already tried these things without solving my problem. In safe mode
> the problem does not occur. I did check the two items and restarted.
> This did not solve the problem. Hardware acceleration has always been off.
> 
> The idea of course is to find out what the difference is between safe
> mode, where the problem does not occur, and normal mode, where the
> problem does occur. But so far no luck. It is an annoyance on Windows to
> have to open TB, close it, then reopen TB to have everything working
> properly. But it seems I will have to live with that as the bugzilla
> report will not be invesigated. On Linux everything works properly the
> first time.
> 
>>
>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode#Safe_Mode_options
> 
The consequences of safe mode are given at the top of the article I 
cited.  The only other factor you haven't ruled out is a custom 
userChrome.css file.  Maybe you'll find something here:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Toolbar_or_windows_layout_not_working
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Steve
4/21/2017 4:02:32 AM
On 04/20/2017 05:39 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> What exactly are you sharing between Windows and Linux? Everything?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> There are different profiles.ini files, but they both point to the same 
> shared Thunderbird directory where the profile resides on an NTFS 
> partition.

FWIW, I tried to reproduce it but I can't. I accessed a Linux profile 
from a Windows virtual machine. Not exactly the same, but it should have 
the same effect. Everything works OK, except lightning of course.
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dillinger
4/21/2017 5:05:49 AM
On 4/21/2017 12:02 AM, Steve wrote:
> On 4/20/17 3:45 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 04/20/2017 01:08 PM, Steve wrote:
>>> On 4/19/17 12:15 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> I ran into a problem which I reported to Thunderbird as a bug. The
>>>> suggestion is that I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode to see if the
>>>> problem still exists. Indeed when I start Thunderbird in Safe Mode the
>>>> problem no longer occurs.
>>>>
>>>> In an effort to find out which setting is causing the problems I 
>>>> started
>>>> by manually disabling my Add-ons. When I manually disable all my 
>>>> Add-ons
>>>>     this the problem still occurs. However I can see that in Safe 
>>>> Mode the
>>>> Appearance Add-on called "Default", for "The default theme", is
>>>> disabled, whereas I can find no means of manually disabling it. How 
>>>> do I
>>>> manually disable this Add-on ?
>>>>
>>>> Also, other than disabling my Add-ons, what other changes are made in
>>>> Safe Mode ?
>>>>
>>> Start TB in safe mode (hold Shift when you launch), then, at the prompt,
>>> check 'Reset Toolbars and Controls' and click 'Make Changes and
>>> Restart'.  This will test whether your problem is due to a broken
>>> layout, since you have ruled out add-ons.  If the problem persists,
>>> disable hardware acceleration if it's enabled in Tools/Options/Advanced.
>>
>> I already tried these things without solving my problem. In safe mode
>> the problem does not occur. I did check the two items and restarted.
>> This did not solve the problem. Hardware acceleration has always been 
>> off.
>>
>> The idea of course is to find out what the difference is between safe
>> mode, where the problem does not occur, and normal mode, where the
>> problem does occur. But so far no luck. It is an annoyance on Windows to
>> have to open TB, close it, then reopen TB to have everything working
>> properly. But it seems I will have to live with that as the bugzilla
>> report will not be invesigated. On Linux everything works properly the
>> first time.
>>
>>>
>>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode#Safe_Mode_options
>>
> The consequences of safe mode are given at the top of the article I 
> cited.  The only other factor you haven't ruled out is a custom 
> userChrome.css file.

I never customized userChrome.css.

>  Maybe you'll find something here:
> 
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Toolbar_or_windows_layout_not_working

Thanks for the link. It does not seem as if any of the issues can be 
mine since the folder pane, while empty the first time I start TB after 
logging into Windows, shows properly all subsequent times.

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Edward
4/22/2017 4:25:27 PM
On 4/20/2017 12:23 PM, dillinger wrote:
> On 04/20/2017 05:39 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/20/2017 12:30 AM, dillinger wrote:
>>> On 04/20/2017 04:40 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> On 4/19/2017 5:07 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>>>> On 04/19/2017 10:36 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>> When I disable the addon theme the Default theme is enabled. In 
>>>>>> safe mode it says that all themes are disabled. In safe mode my 
>>>>>> problem does not occur, whereas if the Default theme is enabled my 
>>>>>> problem does occur. Something else may be causing my problem but 
>>>>>> the only difference between safe mode and my normal mode, AFAICS, 
>>>>>> is this Default theme business. If it is something else I do not 
>>>>>> know how I can discover what it is unless I know exactly what safe 
>>>>>> mode is doing. I did try the safe mode option of checking both 
>>>>>> items in the initial safe mode dialog box and restarting, but my 
>>>>>> problem still occurs.
>>>>> In safe mode all extensions and complete themes are disabled, but 
>>>>> apparently not the light weight themes (I tried it).
>>>>> The most obvious other thing that is disabled are all of your UI 
>>>>> customizations, these are stored in xulstore.json these days.
>>>>> Try renaming or deleting that and see if your problem persists.
>>>>> What is your problem, by the way, it might help to know.
>>>>
>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
>>>>
>>> What exactly are you sharing between Windows and Linux? Everything?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
> Ok , that's what I thought.
> 
>> There are different profiles.ini files, but they both point to the 
>> same shared Thunderbird directory where the profile resides on an NTFS 
>> partition.
>>
>>> I'm asking because although I've never shared profiles between 
>>> Windows and Linux I have copied them both ways and copying from 
>>> Windows to Linux always gave better results than copying from Linux 
>>> to Windows.
>>> A possible workaround could be to have 2 separate profiles that share 
>>> the same Local directory.
>>
>> What do you mean by "local directory" ?
>>
> In account settings > account > server settings you can choose a "local 
> directory" where Thunderbird stores its mail. At the bottom.
> 
>>> I have a few profiles here and they all use the same Local 
>>> directories, I've never had a problem with that. That way you can 
>>> share your mail between them but there won't be any conflicting 
>>> extensions etc.
>>
> Over here the local directories in all profiles are
>   /home/michel/.thunderbird/shared/ImapMail/server
> This way I share my mail between different profiles with different 
> extensions and Thunderbird versions etc. without unnecessary restarts or 
> extension updates that break another profile.

That is a good possibility rather than sharing the profile itself. 
However to solve my current problem I would have to create a new profile 
and then setup all my mail, rss, and newsgroup accounts with that new 
profile. Is there an easier way to do that than having to manually enter 
all this information again ? Can I just somehow point TB, with the new 
profile to the local directories to have it setup my mail, rss, and 
newsgroup accounts for that new profile ?

> 
>> Are the extensions themselves stored in the Thunderbird profile ?
>>
> Yes, they are stored in /profilefolder/extensions/

Understood. I normally use very few extensions which I find useful so 
setting up my extensions again under a new profile would not be much of 
a burden.

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Edward
4/22/2017 4:31:36 PM
On 4/21/2017 1:05 AM, dillinger wrote:
> On 04/20/2017 05:39 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> What exactly are you sharing between Windows and Linux? Everything?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> There are different profiles.ini files, but they both point to the 
>> same shared Thunderbird directory where the profile resides on an NTFS 
>> partition.
> 
> FWIW, I tried to reproduce it but I can't. I accessed a Linux profile 
> from a Windows virtual machine. Not exactly the same, but it should have 
> the same effect. Everything works OK, except lightning of course.

Appreciated. I still have no idea what my problem is then.
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Edward
4/22/2017 4:33:59 PM
On 04/22/2017 06:31 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/20/2017 12:23 PM, dillinger wrote:
>> On 04/20/2017 05:39 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> On 4/20/2017 12:30 AM, dillinger wrote:
>>>> On 04/20/2017 04:40 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> On 4/19/2017 5:07 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 10:36 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>> When I disable the addon theme the Default theme is enabled. In 
>>>>>>> safe mode it says that all themes are disabled. In safe mode my 
>>>>>>> problem does not occur, whereas if the Default theme is enabled 
>>>>>>> my problem does occur. Something else may be causing my problem 
>>>>>>> but the only difference between safe mode and my normal mode, 
>>>>>>> AFAICS, is this Default theme business. If it is something else I 
>>>>>>> do not know how I can discover what it is unless I know exactly 
>>>>>>> what safe mode is doing. I did try the safe mode option of 
>>>>>>> checking both items in the initial safe mode dialog box and 
>>>>>>> restarting, but my problem still occurs.
>>>>>> In safe mode all extensions and complete themes are disabled, but 
>>>>>> apparently not the light weight themes (I tried it).
>>>>>> The most obvious other thing that is disabled are all of your UI 
>>>>>> customizations, these are stored in xulstore.json these days.
>>>>>> Try renaming or deleting that and see if your problem persists.
>>>>>> What is your problem, by the way, it might help to know.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
>>>>>
>>>> What exactly are you sharing between Windows and Linux? Everything?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>> Ok , that's what I thought.
>>
>>> There are different profiles.ini files, but they both point to the 
>>> same shared Thunderbird directory where the profile resides on an 
>>> NTFS partition.
>>>
>>>> I'm asking because although I've never shared profiles between 
>>>> Windows and Linux I have copied them both ways and copying from 
>>>> Windows to Linux always gave better results than copying from Linux 
>>>> to Windows.
>>>> A possible workaround could be to have 2 separate profiles that 
>>>> share the same Local directory.
>>>
>>> What do you mean by "local directory" ?
>>>
>> In account settings > account > server settings you can choose a 
>> "local directory" where Thunderbird stores its mail. At the bottom.
>>
>>>> I have a few profiles here and they all use the same Local 
>>>> directories, I've never had a problem with that. That way you can 
>>>> share your mail between them but there won't be any conflicting 
>>>> extensions etc.
>>>
>> Over here the local directories in all profiles are
>>   /home/michel/.thunderbird/shared/ImapMail/server
>> This way I share my mail between different profiles with different 
>> extensions and Thunderbird versions etc. without unnecessary restarts 
>> or extension updates that break another profile.
> 
> That is a good possibility rather than sharing the profile itself. 
> However to solve my current problem I would have to create a new profile 
> and then setup all my mail, rss, and newsgroup accounts with that new 
> profile. Is there an easier way to do that than having to manually enter 
> all this information again ? Can I just somehow point TB, with the new 
> profile to the local directories to have it setup my mail, rss, and 
> newsgroup accounts for that new profile ?
> 
You can copy your profile from Windows to Linux, just make sure the 
profiles.ini on Linux includes it.
After that, when it works, you can adjust the paths to your local 
directories.
>>
>>> Are the extensions themselves stored in the Thunderbird profile ?
>>>
>> Yes, they are stored in /profilefolder/extensions/
> 
> Understood. I normally use very few extensions which I find useful so 
> setting up my extensions again under a new profile would not be much of 
> a burden.
> 

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dillinger
4/25/2017 8:03:46 AM
On 4/25/2017 4:03 AM, dillinger wrote:
> On 04/22/2017 06:31 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/20/2017 12:23 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>> On 04/20/2017 05:39 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> On 4/20/2017 12:30 AM, dillinger wrote:
>>>>> On 04/20/2017 04:40 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/19/2017 5:07 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 10:36 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>>> When I disable the addon theme the Default theme is enabled. In 
>>>>>>>> safe mode it says that all themes are disabled. In safe mode my 
>>>>>>>> problem does not occur, whereas if the Default theme is enabled 
>>>>>>>> my problem does occur. Something else may be causing my problem 
>>>>>>>> but the only difference between safe mode and my normal mode, 
>>>>>>>> AFAICS, is this Default theme business. If it is something else 
>>>>>>>> I do not know how I can discover what it is unless I know 
>>>>>>>> exactly what safe mode is doing. I did try the safe mode option 
>>>>>>>> of checking both items in the initial safe mode dialog box and 
>>>>>>>> restarting, but my problem still occurs.
>>>>>>> In safe mode all extensions and complete themes are disabled, but 
>>>>>>> apparently not the light weight themes (I tried it).
>>>>>>> The most obvious other thing that is disabled are all of your UI 
>>>>>>> customizations, these are stored in xulstore.json these days.
>>>>>>> Try renaming or deleting that and see if your problem persists.
>>>>>>> What is your problem, by the way, it might help to know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
>>>>>>
>>>>> What exactly are you sharing between Windows and Linux? Everything?
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>> Ok , that's what I thought.
>>>
>>>> There are different profiles.ini files, but they both point to the 
>>>> same shared Thunderbird directory where the profile resides on an 
>>>> NTFS partition.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm asking because although I've never shared profiles between 
>>>>> Windows and Linux I have copied them both ways and copying from 
>>>>> Windows to Linux always gave better results than copying from Linux 
>>>>> to Windows.
>>>>> A possible workaround could be to have 2 separate profiles that 
>>>>> share the same Local directory.
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean by "local directory" ?
>>>>
>>> In account settings > account > server settings you can choose a 
>>> "local directory" where Thunderbird stores its mail. At the bottom.
>>>
>>>>> I have a few profiles here and they all use the same Local 
>>>>> directories, I've never had a problem with that. That way you can 
>>>>> share your mail between them but there won't be any conflicting 
>>>>> extensions etc.
>>>>
>>> Over here the local directories in all profiles are
>>>   /home/michel/.thunderbird/shared/ImapMail/server
>>> This way I share my mail between different profiles with different 
>>> extensions and Thunderbird versions etc. without unnecessary restarts 
>>> or extension updates that break another profile.
>>
>> That is a good possibility rather than sharing the profile itself. 
>> However to solve my current problem I would have to create a new 
>> profile and then setup all my mail, rss, and newsgroup accounts with 
>> that new profile. Is there an easier way to do that than having to 
>> manually enter all this information again ? Can I just somehow point 
>> TB, with the new profile to the local directories to have it setup my 
>> mail, rss, and newsgroup accounts for that new profile ?
>>
> You can copy your profile from Windows to Linux, just make sure the 
> profiles.ini on Linux includes it.
> After that, when it works, you can adjust the paths to your local 
> directories.

My point is that I would have to manually set up all my accounts again 
when I create a new profile. I need some way of just "copying" my 
accounts from my old profile to a new profile. It is a PITA to have to 
manually set up all my accounts in a new profile before I adjust the 
local stores for those accounts. I have 6 e-mail accounts, 4 news server 
accounts, and 1 rss account.

>>>
>>>> Are the extensions themselves stored in the Thunderbird profile ?
>>>>
>>> Yes, they are stored in /profilefolder/extensions/
>>
>> Understood. I normally use very few extensions which I find useful so 
>> setting up my extensions again under a new profile would not be much 
>> of a burden.
>>
> 

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Edward
4/25/2017 8:55:04 AM
On 4/25/17 10:55 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/25/2017 4:03 AM, dillinger wrote:
>> On 04/22/2017 06:31 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> On 4/20/2017 12:23 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>>> On 04/20/2017 05:39 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> On 4/20/2017 12:30 AM, dillinger wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/20/2017 04:40 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/19/2017 5:07 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 10:36 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>>>> When I disable the addon theme the Default theme is enabled. In 
>>>>>>>>> safe mode it says that all themes are disabled. In safe mode my 
>>>>>>>>> problem does not occur, whereas if the Default theme is enabled 
>>>>>>>>> my problem does occur. Something else may be causing my problem 
>>>>>>>>> but the only difference between safe mode and my normal mode, 
>>>>>>>>> AFAICS, is this Default theme business. If it is something else 
>>>>>>>>> I do not know how I can discover what it is unless I know 
>>>>>>>>> exactly what safe mode is doing. I did try the safe mode option 
>>>>>>>>> of checking both items in the initial safe mode dialog box and 
>>>>>>>>> restarting, but my problem still occurs.
>>>>>>>> In safe mode all extensions and complete themes are disabled, 
>>>>>>>> but apparently not the light weight themes (I tried it).
>>>>>>>> The most obvious other thing that is disabled are all of your UI 
>>>>>>>> customizations, these are stored in xulstore.json these days.
>>>>>>>> Try renaming or deleting that and see if your problem persists.
>>>>>>>> What is your problem, by the way, it might help to know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What exactly are you sharing between Windows and Linux? Everything?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>> Ok , that's what I thought.
>>>>
>>>>> There are different profiles.ini files, but they both point to the 
>>>>> same shared Thunderbird directory where the profile resides on an 
>>>>> NTFS partition.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm asking because although I've never shared profiles between 
>>>>>> Windows and Linux I have copied them both ways and copying from 
>>>>>> Windows to Linux always gave better results than copying from 
>>>>>> Linux to Windows.
>>>>>> A possible workaround could be to have 2 separate profiles that 
>>>>>> share the same Local directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you mean by "local directory" ?
>>>>>
>>>> In account settings > account > server settings you can choose a 
>>>> "local directory" where Thunderbird stores its mail. At the bottom.
>>>>
>>>>>> I have a few profiles here and they all use the same Local 
>>>>>> directories, I've never had a problem with that. That way you can 
>>>>>> share your mail between them but there won't be any conflicting 
>>>>>> extensions etc.
>>>>>
>>>> Over here the local directories in all profiles are
>>>>   /home/michel/.thunderbird/shared/ImapMail/server
>>>> This way I share my mail between different profiles with different 
>>>> extensions and Thunderbird versions etc. without unnecessary 
>>>> restarts or extension updates that break another profile.
>>>
>>> That is a good possibility rather than sharing the profile itself. 
>>> However to solve my current problem I would have to create a new 
>>> profile and then setup all my mail, rss, and newsgroup accounts with 
>>> that new profile. Is there an easier way to do that than having to 
>>> manually enter all this information again ? Can I just somehow point 
>>> TB, with the new profile to the local directories to have it setup my 
>>> mail, rss, and newsgroup accounts for that new profile ?
>>>
>> You can copy your profile from Windows to Linux, just make sure the 
>> profiles.ini on Linux includes it.
>> After that, when it works, you can adjust the paths to your local 
>> directories.
> 
> My point is that I would have to manually set up all my accounts again 
> when I create a new profile. I need some way of just "copying" my 
> accounts from my old profile to a new profile. It is a PITA to have to 
> manually set up all my accounts in a new profile before I adjust the 
> local stores for those accounts. I have 6 e-mail accounts, 4 news server 
> accounts, and 1 rss account.
> 
I understand, by copying your profile I mean copy everything from 
C:\Users\edward\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles to 
/home/edward/.thunderbird
Just make sure your profiles.ini on Linux includes your new copied profile.
>>>>
>>>>> Are the extensions themselves stored in the Thunderbird profile ?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, they are stored in /profilefolder/extensions/
>>>
>>> Understood. I normally use very few extensions which I find useful so 
>>> setting up my extensions again under a new profile would not be much 
>>> of a burden.
>>>
>>
> 

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dillinger
4/25/2017 9:44:17 AM
On 4/25/2017 5:44 AM, dillinger wrote:
> On 4/25/17 10:55 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/25/2017 4:03 AM, dillinger wrote:
>>> On 04/22/2017 06:31 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> On 4/20/2017 12:23 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>>>> On 04/20/2017 05:39 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/20/2017 12:30 AM, dillinger wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/20/2017 04:40 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/19/2017 5:07 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 04/19/2017 10:36 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> When I disable the addon theme the Default theme is enabled. 
>>>>>>>>>> In safe mode it says that all themes are disabled. In safe 
>>>>>>>>>> mode my problem does not occur, whereas if the Default theme 
>>>>>>>>>> is enabled my problem does occur. Something else may be 
>>>>>>>>>> causing my problem but the only difference between safe mode 
>>>>>>>>>> and my normal mode, AFAICS, is this Default theme business. If 
>>>>>>>>>> it is something else I do not know how I can discover what it 
>>>>>>>>>> is unless I know exactly what safe mode is doing. I did try 
>>>>>>>>>> the safe mode option of checking both items in the initial 
>>>>>>>>>> safe mode dialog box and restarting, but my problem still occurs.
>>>>>>>>> In safe mode all extensions and complete themes are disabled, 
>>>>>>>>> but apparently not the light weight themes (I tried it).
>>>>>>>>> The most obvious other thing that is disabled are all of your 
>>>>>>>>> UI customizations, these are stored in xulstore.json these days.
>>>>>>>>> Try renaming or deleting that and see if your problem persists.
>>>>>>>>> What is your problem, by the way, it might help to know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1357770
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What exactly are you sharing between Windows and Linux? Everything?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Ok , that's what I thought.
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are different profiles.ini files, but they both point to the 
>>>>>> same shared Thunderbird directory where the profile resides on an 
>>>>>> NTFS partition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm asking because although I've never shared profiles between 
>>>>>>> Windows and Linux I have copied them both ways and copying from 
>>>>>>> Windows to Linux always gave better results than copying from 
>>>>>>> Linux to Windows.
>>>>>>> A possible workaround could be to have 2 separate profiles that 
>>>>>>> share the same Local directory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you mean by "local directory" ?
>>>>>>
>>>>> In account settings > account > server settings you can choose a 
>>>>> "local directory" where Thunderbird stores its mail. At the bottom.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a few profiles here and they all use the same Local 
>>>>>>> directories, I've never had a problem with that. That way you can 
>>>>>>> share your mail between them but there won't be any conflicting 
>>>>>>> extensions etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Over here the local directories in all profiles are
>>>>>   /home/michel/.thunderbird/shared/ImapMail/server
>>>>> This way I share my mail between different profiles with different 
>>>>> extensions and Thunderbird versions etc. without unnecessary 
>>>>> restarts or extension updates that break another profile.
>>>>
>>>> That is a good possibility rather than sharing the profile itself. 
>>>> However to solve my current problem I would have to create a new 
>>>> profile and then setup all my mail, rss, and newsgroup accounts with 
>>>> that new profile. Is there an easier way to do that than having to 
>>>> manually enter all this information again ? Can I just somehow point 
>>>> TB, with the new profile to the local directories to have it setup 
>>>> my mail, rss, and newsgroup accounts for that new profile ?
>>>>
>>> You can copy your profile from Windows to Linux, just make sure the 
>>> profiles.ini on Linux includes it.
>>> After that, when it works, you can adjust the paths to your local 
>>> directories.
>>
>> My point is that I would have to manually set up all my accounts again 
>> when I create a new profile. I need some way of just "copying" my 
>> accounts from my old profile to a new profile. It is a PITA to have to 
>> manually set up all my accounts in a new profile before I adjust the 
>> local stores for those accounts. I have 6 e-mail accounts, 4 news 
>> server accounts, and 1 rss account.
>>
> I understand, by copying your profile I mean copy everything from 
> C:\Users\edward\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles to 
> /home/edward/.thunderbird
> Just make sure your profiles.ini on Linux includes your new copied profile.

What good does that do me ?

My current shared profile, between Windows and various Linux distros, 
has some sort of bug in it which is the subject of this topic. My 
solution, given your suggestion, cannot be just to create a new eprofile 
and copy everything from my old profile, since the new profile will have 
the same bug. Instead I want to create a new profile, to be used only 
under Windows where the current bug shows itself, and then to "copy" my 
old profile account information to my new profile while adjusting the 
local stores for each account to what they are now. I highly doubt that 
the local stores are what is causing the Windows bug. I am sure it is 
something else in my current profile.

My problem when doing this is that it is a PITA to have to manually 
specify each account I have in my current profile for my new profile, so 
I was hoping there was some way in TB to "copy" account inmformation 
from one profile to another. But there does not seem to be a fail-safe 
way to do this although someone else has suggested how this could be 
done. The suggestion however, on another thread, consisting of copying 
pref.js entries, is not complete AFAICS.

So I will probably end up carefully marking down all the information for 
each account in my current profile ( I have 6 e-mail 4 news servers and 
1 rss ), and then recreating all that information for each account of my 
new profile. What a PITA ! You would think TB would have some easy way 
of exporting and importing individual account information, but it does 
not appear that this functionality exists.

Again, merely creating a new profile and than copying everything from my 
old buggy profile, cannot be the way to solve my problem. It is just 
transferring this bug to another profile.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are the extensions themselves stored in the Thunderbird profile ?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, they are stored in /profilefolder/extensions/
>>>>
>>>> Understood. I normally use very few extensions which I find useful 
>>>> so setting up my extensions again under a new profile would not be 
>>>> much of a burden.
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Edward
4/25/2017 12:13:29 PM
On 4/25/2017 2:13 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> Again, merely creating a new profile and than copying everything from my 
> old buggy profile, cannot be the way to solve my problem. It is just 
> transferring this bug to another profile.
Your bug only appeared on first access from Windows after you accessed 
it from Linux, didn't it? So if you copy the profile, and possibly the 
bug, it will appear only one time. After you've copied the profile 
Windows and Linux will no longer use the same profile and so the bug 
will no longer appear, even if it is still there.
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dillinger
4/25/2017 12:31:07 PM
On 4/25/2017 8:31 AM, dillinger wrote:
> On 4/25/2017 2:13 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> Again, merely creating a new profile and than copying everything from 
>> my old buggy profile, cannot be the way to solve my problem. It is 
>> just transferring this bug to another profile.
> Your bug only appeared on first access from Windows after you accessed 
> it from Linux, didn't it?

No. It appears the first time I start TB after booting Windows. It has 
nothing to do with using TB first under Linux and then under Windows, 
even if both share the same profile.

> So if you copy the profile, and possibly the 
> bug, it will appear only one time. After you've copied the profile 
> Windows and Linux will no longer use the same profile and so the bug 
> will no longer appear, even if it is still there.

I highly doubt that merely having Windows and Linux not using the same 
profile will fix the problem under Windows.

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Edward
4/25/2017 1:04:03 PM
On 04/25/2017 03:04 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/25/2017 8:31 AM, dillinger wrote:
>> On 4/25/2017 2:13 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> Again, merely creating a new profile and than copying everything from 
>>> my old buggy profile, cannot be the way to solve my problem. It is 
>>> just transferring this bug to another profile.
>> Your bug only appeared on first access from Windows after you accessed 
>> it from Linux, didn't it?
> 
> No. It appears the first time I start TB after booting Windows. It has 
> nothing to do with using TB first under Linux and then under Windows, 
> even if both share the same profile.
> 
>> So if you copy the profile, and possibly the bug, it will appear only 
>> one time. After you've copied the profile Windows and Linux will no 
>> longer use the same profile and so the bug will no longer appear, even 
>> if it is still there.
> 
> I highly doubt that merely having Windows and Linux not using the same 
> profile will fix the problem under Windows.
> 
So, if you start Thunderbird from Windows, close it, then reboot 
Windows, and then start Thunderbird again, does it appear?
If so, it may even have nothing to to with the sharing of your profile.
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dillinger
4/25/2017 1:15:53 PM
On 4/25/17 9:04 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
> I highly doubt that merely having Windows and Linux not using the same 
> profile will fix the problem under Windows. 


Try it.

Report back.

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WaltS48
4/25/2017 1:27:40 PM
On 4/25/2017 9:15 AM, dillinger wrote:
> On 04/25/2017 03:04 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/25/2017 8:31 AM, dillinger wrote:
>>> On 4/25/2017 2:13 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> Again, merely creating a new profile and than copying everything 
>>>> from my old buggy profile, cannot be the way to solve my problem. It 
>>>> is just transferring this bug to another profile.
>>> Your bug only appeared on first access from Windows after you 
>>> accessed it from Linux, didn't it?
>>
>> No. It appears the first time I start TB after booting Windows. It has 
>> nothing to do with using TB first under Linux and then under Windows, 
>> even if both share the same profile.
>>
>>> So if you copy the profile, and possibly the bug, it will appear only 
>>> one time. After you've copied the profile Windows and Linux will no 
>>> longer use the same profile and so the bug will no longer appear, 
>>> even if it is still there.
>>
>> I highly doubt that merely having Windows and Linux not using the same 
>> profile will fix the problem under Windows.
>>
> So, if you start Thunderbird from Windows, close it, then reboot 
> Windows, and then start Thunderbird again, does it appear?

Yes.

> If so, it may even have nothing to to with the sharing of your profile.

You may be correct.

As soon as I said in my bug report that I shared the profile between 
Windows and Linux the bug report was summarily closed with the 
explanation that sharing a profile between Windows and Linux was not 
supported and therefore there was no further interest in trying to 
figure out what was wrong since safe mode "fixed" the problem.

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Edward
4/25/2017 1:35:41 PM
On 4/25/2017 9:27 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 4/25/17 9:04 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> I highly doubt that merely having Windows and Linux not using the same 
>> profile will fix the problem under Windows. 
> 
> 
> Try it.
> 
> Report back.
> 

I tried it and the same bug appears with the new account, which I am not 
sharing with Linux.
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Edward
4/25/2017 7:04:46 PM
On 04/25/2017 09:04 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/25/2017 9:27 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>> On 4/25/17 9:04 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> I highly doubt that merely having Windows and Linux not using the 
>>> same profile will fix the problem under Windows. 
>>
>>
>> Try it.
>>
>> Report back.
>>
> 
> I tried it and the same bug appears with the new account, which I am not 
> sharing with Linux.
So we're back to square one, well, almost.
You have a problem that appears om Windows, but not on Linux, and has 
nothing to do with sharing of profiles between Windows and Linux.
Something for your next bug report?
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dillinger
4/26/2017 12:02:51 AM
On 4/25/17 8:02 PM, dillinger wrote:
> On 04/25/2017 09:04 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/25/2017 9:27 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 4/25/17 9:04 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> I highly doubt that merely having Windows and Linux not using the 
>>>> same profile will fix the problem under Windows. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Try it.
>>>
>>> Report back.
>>>
>>
>> I tried it and the same bug appears with the new account, which I am 
>> not sharing with Linux.
> So we're back to square one, well, almost.
> You have a problem that appears om Windows, but not on Linux, and has 
> nothing to do with sharing of profiles between Windows and Linux.
> Something for your next bug report?


Sounds to me like they still want their mail in shared local stores.

But, I'm out. Don't feel ambitious enough to create a test account on 
Windows and copy selected items from my Linux profile to see if that 
would work.

Nothing is shared since they are not networked together.

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WaltS48
4/26/2017 12:18:13 AM
On 4/25/2017 8:02 PM, dillinger wrote:
> On 04/25/2017 09:04 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>> On 4/25/2017 9:27 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 4/25/17 9:04 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> I highly doubt that merely having Windows and Linux not using the 
>>>> same profile will fix the problem under Windows. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Try it.
>>>
>>> Report back.
>>>
>>
>> I tried it and the same bug appears with the new account, which I am 
>> not sharing with Linux.
> So we're back to square one, well, almost.
> You have a problem that appears om Windows, but not on Linux, and has 
> nothing to do with sharing of profiles between Windows and Linux.

It may very well have to do with sharing the profile between Windows and 
Linux, but the problem does not occur only when switching between Linux 
and Windows. It occurs each time I boot Windows and open TB the first time.

> Something for your next bug report?

My bug report was closed as soon as it was shown that "safe mode" made 
the problem go away and my profile was shared between Windows and Linux. 
Nothing about that has changed, so why would I make another bug report ? 
I already wasted enough time with those who fielded the bug report who 
did not want to look at my profile and try to see if they could 
duplicate it and determine what was causing it.

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Edward
4/26/2017 3:14:12 AM
On 04/26/2017 05:14 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 4/25/2017 8:02 PM, dillinger wrote:
>> On 04/25/2017 09:04 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> On 4/25/2017 9:27 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>> On 4/25/17 9:04 AM, Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> I highly doubt that merely having Windows and Linux not using the 
>>>>> same profile will fix the problem under Windows. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Try it.
>>>>
>>>> Report back.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I tried it and the same bug appears with the new account, which I am 
>>> not sharing with Linux.
>> So we're back to square one, well, almost.
>> You have a problem that appears om Windows, but not on Linux, and has 
>> nothing to do with sharing of profiles between Windows and Linux.
> 
> It may very well have to do with sharing the profile between Windows and 
> Linux, but the problem does not occur only when switching between Linux 
> and Windows. It occurs each time I boot Windows and open TB the first time.
> 

May, may not, maybe even only when whatever, who knows?
Why not test it? Create a simple test profile with one account, share 
it, and check what happens.
If it works, add your other accounts and be done with it.

>> Something for your next bug report?
> 
> My bug report was closed as soon as it was shown that "safe mode" made 
> the problem go away and my profile was shared between Windows and Linux. 
> Nothing about that has changed, so why would I make another bug report ? 
> I already wasted enough time with those who fielded the bug report who 
> did not want to look at my profile and try to see if they could 
> duplicate it and determine what was causing it.
> 

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dillinger
4/26/2017 8:00:37 PM
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