YouTube web site problem but NOT Video playback

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Hi All,
I have a problem in SeaMonkey 2.53 x64 (from WG9S web site) Build: 
20190425130005 and earlier had same problem (as did 2.49).

If I browse to https://www.youtube.com/ nothing on the site is 
clickable. All elements are greyed out. This effect is only on YouTube 
and nowhere else I have found so far.

If I browse to YouTube site with (any) another browser and copy the url 
of an article then the Video can play but still the surrounding area 
around the video portion of the screen has no response to mouse 
clicking, just the video portion only.

So, once I have a video url I can play it but I cannot browse the web 
site nor see any surrounding text even.

I have made a screen capture to explain if anyone needs it - I just need 
info on where to upload it for public viewing..

Before anyone suggests disabling all Add-ons (done that), reload browser 
without Add-ons (done that), disabled all AntiVirus programs (done that 
too).

I have created a test SeaMonkey new Profile and YouTube functions ok.

So I am assuming the problem is a config problem and not Add-ons nor 
site blocking problem.

Any suggestions please, I just don't know where else to look.

Regards,
BobT

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    <font size="+2">Hi All,<br>
      I have a problem in SeaMonkey 2.53 x64 (from WG9S web site) Build:
      20190425130005 and earlier had same problem (as did 2.49).<br>
      <br>
      If I browse to <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/">https://www.youtube.com/</a> nothing on the site is
      clickable. All elements are greyed out. This effect is only on
      YouTube and nowhere else I have found so far.<br>
      <br>
      If I browse to YouTube site with (any) another browser and copy
      the url of an article then the Video can play but still the
      surrounding area around the video portion of the screen has no
      response to mouse clicking, just the video portion only.<br>
      <br>
      So, once I have a video url I can play it but I cannot browse the
      web site nor see any surrounding text even.<br>
      <br>
      I have made a screen capture to explain if anyone needs it - I
      just need info on where to upload it for public viewing..<br>
      <br>
      Before anyone suggests disabling all Add-ons (done that), reload
      browser without Add-ons (done that), disabled all AntiVirus
      programs (done that too).<br>
      <br>
      I have created a test SeaMonkey new Profile and YouTube functions
      ok.<br>
      <br>
      So I am assuming the problem is a config problem and not Add-ons
      nor site blocking problem.<br>
      <br>
      Any suggestions please, I just don't know where else to look.<br>
      <br>
      Regards,<br>
      BobT<br>
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Robert Traynor:

>I have a problem in SeaMonkey 2.53 x64 (from WG9S web site) Build: 
>20190425130005 and earlier had same problem (as did 2.49).
>
>If I browse to https://www.youtube.com/ nothing on the site is 
>clickable. All elements are greyed out. This effect is only on YouTube 
>and nowhere else I have found so far.

I am using 2.53 too, probably configured differently and some values are
set in my user.js. I'm getting different content on youtube depending on
the checkbox below:

Edit->preferences->Advanced->HTTP Networking
   [x] Advertise Firefox Compatibility

You may give it a try. Unchecking the box improves youtube for me. If
that doesn't help you could try spoofing the UA.

Hartmut
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Hartmut
5/11/2019 5:21:22 AM
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On 11/05/2019 3:21 pm, Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Robert Traynor:
>
>> I have a problem in SeaMonkey 2.53 x64 (from WG9S web site) Build:
>> 20190425130005 and earlier had same problem (as did 2.49).
>>
>> If I browse to https://www.youtube.com/ nothing on the site is
>> clickable. All elements are greyed out. This effect is only on YouTube
>> and nowhere else I have found so far.
> I am using 2.53 too, probably configured differently and some values are
> set in my user.js. I'm getting different content on youtube depending on
> the checkbox below:
>
> Edit->preferences->Advanced->HTTP Networking
>     [x] Advertise Firefox Compatibility
>
> You may give it a try. Unchecking the box improves youtube for me. If
> that doesn't help you could try spoofing the UA.
>
> Hartmut

Thanks for the suggestions but no luck..

I tried Unchecking the  'Advertise Firefox Compatibility'.

My current User Agent value from most recent Firefox is already:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/66.0

BobT

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    On 11/05/2019 3:21 pm, Hartmut Figge wrote:<br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:114af5f5-6331-1815-e17e-a9e29d575d1f@hfigge.myfqdn.de">
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Robert Traynor:

</pre>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I have a problem in SeaMonkey 2.53 x64 (from WG9S web site) Build: 
20190425130005 and earlier had same problem (as did 2.49).

If I browse to <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/">https://www.youtube.com/</a> nothing on the site is 
clickable. All elements are greyed out. This effect is only on YouTube 
and nowhere else I have found so far.
</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">
I am using 2.53 too, probably configured differently and some values are
set in my user.js. I'm getting different content on youtube depending on
the checkbox below:

Edit-&gt;preferences-&gt;Advanced-&gt;HTTP Networking
   [x] Advertise Firefox Compatibility

You may give it a try. Unchecking the box improves youtube for me. If
that doesn't help you could try spoofing the UA.

Hartmut
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Thanks for the suggestions but no luck.. <br>
    <br>
    I tried Unchecking the  'Advertise Firefox Compatibility'.<br>
    <br>
    My current User Agent value from most recent Firefox is already:<br>
    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101
    Firefox/66.0<br>
    <br>
    BobT<br>
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Robert
5/11/2019 5:51:44 AM
Robert Traynor wrote:
> On 11/05/2019 3:21 pm, Hartmut Figge wrote:
>> Robert Traynor:
>>
>>> I have a problem in SeaMonkey 2.53 x64 (from WG9S web site) Build:
>>> 20190425130005 and earlier had same problem (as did 2.49).
>>>
>>> If I browse to https://www.youtube.com/ nothing on the site is
>>> clickable. All elements are greyed out. This effect is only on YouTube
>>> and nowhere else I have found so far.
>> I am using 2.53 too, probably configured differently and some values are
>> set in my user.js. I'm getting different content on youtube depending on
>> the checkbox below:
>>
>> Edit->preferences->Advanced->HTTP Networking
>>     [x] Advertise Firefox Compatibility
>>
>> You may give it a try. Unchecking the box improves youtube for me. If
>> that doesn't help you could try spoofing the UA.
>>
>> Hartmut
>
> Thanks for the suggestions but no luck..
>
> I tried Unchecking the  'Advertise Firefox Compatibility'.
>
> My current User Agent value from most recent Firefox is already:
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101
> Firefox/66.0
>
> BobT

Had the same problem earlier this week.
Spoofing to FF 55.0 got it working.


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Paul
5/11/2019 6:06:28 AM
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On 11/05/2019 4:06 pm, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>> My current User Agent value from most recent Firefox is already:
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 
>> Firefox/66.0
>>
>> BobT
>
> Had the same problem earlier this week.
> Spoofing to FF 55.0 got it working.
>
THANKS, it worked..!

I changed it to:-
*Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:55.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/55.0**
*
Problem solved.. Head Banging..!!

Regards,
BobT

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    On 11/05/2019 4:06 pm, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:<br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:q_WdnfKD59fs-0vBnZ2dnUU7-IudnZ2d@mozilla.org">
      <blockquote type="cite" style="font-weight: bold; font-size:
        large; color: #000000;"><font size="-2">My current User Agent
          value from most recent Firefox is already:
          <br>
          Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:66.0)
          Gecko/20100101
          Firefox/66.0
          <br>
          <br>
          BobT
        </font><br>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      Had the same problem earlier this week.
      <br>
      Spoofing to FF 55.0 got it working.
      <br>
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    THANKS, it worked..!<br>
    <br>
    I changed it to:-<br>
    <b>Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:55.0) Gecko/20100101
      Firefox/55.0</b><b><br>
    </b><br>
    Problem solved.. Head Banging..!!<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    BobT<br>
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Robert
5/11/2019 7:07:27 AM
Robert Traynor wrote on 11/05/2019 5:07 PM:
> On 11/05/2019 4:06 pm, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>> My current User Agent value from most recent Firefox is already:
>>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 
>>> Firefox/66.0
>>>
>>> BobT
>>
>> Had the same problem earlier this week.
>> Spoofing to FF 55.0 got it working.
>>
> THANKS, it worked..!
> 
> I changed it to:-
> *Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:55.0) Gecko/20100101 
> Firefox/55.0**
> *
> Problem solved.. Head Banging..!!
> 
> Regards,
> BobT
> 
So, what, are some sites not so much anti FF, just anti-FF/66.0??

Bob, I was going to ask, back a few posts where Hartmut suggested 
*unchecking* the 'Advertise Firefox Compatability', are you sure you did 
uncheck that setting?? Your UA still showed Ff/66.0.

Also, if you did have that setting checked, I believe your UserAgent 
should have mentioned *Both* SeaMonkey and FireFox, but your UserAgent 
was just showing Firefox, so I was wondering if you might have added a 
Custom UserAgent string which just showed Firefox!!

Just wondering!!

-- 
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623
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Daniel
5/11/2019 10:06:20 AM
I had the same problem with SM 2.53. Now I use different UAs per website.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0
general.useragent.override.instagram.com;general.usMozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
general.useragent.override.netflix.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
general.useragent.override.youtube.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
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chokito
5/11/2019 10:40:55 AM
I had the same problem with SM 2.53. Now I use different UAs per website.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0
general.useragent.override.instagram.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
general.useragent.override.netflix.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
general.useragent.override.youtube.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
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chokito
5/11/2019 10:51:36 AM
Hi Daniel
> So, what, are some sites not so much anti FF, just anti-FF/66.0??

The same problem exist for youtube.com in FF ESR 60 with UA changed to FF/66.0.
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chokito
5/11/2019 11:10:31 AM
chokito wrote:
> Hi Daniel
>> So, what, are some sites not so much anti FF, just anti-FF/66.0??
> 
> The same problem exist for youtube.com in FF ESR 60 with UA changed to FF/66.0.

If your UA is indicating that you have Firefox 66, Youtube could be 
detecting that and assuming it can use features which are available in 
that version - and perhaps it would work if you actually used Firefox 
66. But since you actually have an older version of Firefox (or 
SeaMonkey based on an older version of Firefox) those features may not 
actually be available, so Youtube is trying to use features your browser 
doesn't support so it doesn't work as it should. When you indicate the 
version you actually have, perhaps they use older features which are 
available in that older version, so it works.

-- 
Mark.

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mozilla
5/11/2019 11:36:01 AM
> If your UA is indicating that you have Firefox 66, Youtube could be 
> detecting that and assuming it can use features which are available in 
> that version - and perhaps it would work if you actually used Firefox 
> 66. But since you actually have an older version of Firefox (or 
> SeaMonkey based on an older version of Firefox) those features may not 
> actually be available, so Youtube is trying to use features your browser 
> doesn't support so it doesn't work as it should. When you indicate the 
> version you actually have, perhaps they use older features which are 
> available in that older version, so it works.
> 
> -- 
> Mark.

But that worked two or three weeks ago without problems.
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chokito
5/11/2019 3:11:03 PM
On 5/11/19 12:39 AM, Robert Traynor wrote:
> Hi All,
> I have a problem in SeaMonkey 2.53 x64 (from WG9S web site) Build: 
> 20190425130005 and earlier had same problem (as did 2.49).
> 
> If I browse to https://www.youtube.com/ nothing on the site is 
> clickable. All elements are greyed out. This effect is only on YouTube 
> and nowhere else I have found so far.
> 
> If I browse to YouTube site with (any) another browser and copy the url 
> of an article then the Video can play but still the surrounding area 
> around the video portion of the screen has no response to mouse 
> clicking, just the video portion only.
> 
> So, once I have a video url I can play it but I cannot browse the web 
> site nor see any surrounding text even.
> 
> I have made a screen capture to explain if anyone needs it - I just need 
> info on where to upload it for public viewing..
> 
> Before anyone suggests disabling all Add-ons (done that), reload browser 
> without Add-ons (done that), disabled all AntiVirus programs (done that 
> too).
> 
> I have created a test SeaMonkey new Profile and YouTube functions ok.
> 
> So I am assuming the problem is a config problem and not Add-ons nor 
> site blocking problem.
> 
> Any suggestions please, I just don't know where else to look.
> 
> Regards,
> BobT

No problems with YouTube for me using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4

Start with the old profile, open Help > Troubleshooting Information, 
click Copy text to clipboard, open a text editor and paste the text into it.

Repeat with the new test profile, then compare the Important Modified 
Preferences sections and see if there is anything different.

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WaltS48
5/11/2019 4:47:08 PM
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On 11/05/2019 8:06 pm, Daniel wrote:
> Bob, I was going to ask, back a few posts where Hartmut suggested 
> *unchecking* the 'Advertise Firefox Compatability', are you sure you 
> did uncheck that setting?? Your UA still showed Ff/66.0.
>
> Also, if you did have that setting checked, I believe your UserAgent 
> should have mentioned *Both* SeaMonkey and FireFox, but your UserAgent 
> was just showing Firefox, so I was wondering if you might have added a 
> Custom UserAgent string which just showed Firefox!!
>
> Just wondering!!

Yes, I did uncheck that setting 'Advertise Firefox Compatability' and I 
just rechecked and it is still unchecked.

And Yes, I do have a custom UserAgent string which just shows the 
Firefox setting.

Regards,
BobT

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    On 11/05/2019 8:06 pm, Daniel wrote:<br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:meudnZRXIPkBA0vBnZ2dnUU7-VHNnZ2d@mozilla.org">Bob, I was
      going to ask, back a few posts where Hartmut suggested <b
        class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>unchecking<span
          class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b> the 'Advertise Firefox
      Compatability', are you sure you did uncheck that setting?? Your
      UA still showed Ff/66.0.
      <br>
      <br>
      Also, if you did have that setting checked, I believe your
      UserAgent should have mentioned <b class="moz-txt-star"><span
          class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>Both<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b>
      SeaMonkey and FireFox, but your UserAgent was just showing
      Firefox, so I was wondering if you might have added a Custom
      UserAgent string which just showed Firefox!!
      <br>
      <br>
      Just wondering!!
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Yes, I did uncheck that setting 'Advertise Firefox Compatability'
    and I just rechecked and it is still unchecked.<br>
    <br>
    And Yes, I do have a custom UserAgent string which just shows the
    Firefox setting.<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    BobT<br>
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5/11/2019 9:53:57 PM
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On 11/05/2019 8:51 pm, chokito wrote:
> I had the same problem with SM 2.53. Now I use different UAs per website.
> general.useragent.override;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0
> general.useragent.override.instagram.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
> general.useragent.override.netflix.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
> general.useragent.override.youtube.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

I will give your settings a fly.

BTW, I have found that setting the UA to FF 62.0 works on YouTube but 
_*not*_**FF 63.0...!

BobT

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    On 11/05/2019 8:51 pm, chokito wrote:<br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:d00d3cb7-2a5c-4eb0-ac7b-cbdb1027c938@googlegroups.com">
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I had the same problem with SM 2.53. Now I use different UAs per website.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0
general.useragent.override.instagram.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
general.useragent.override.netflix.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
general.useragent.override.youtube.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    I will give your settings a fly.<br>
    <br>
    BTW, I have found that setting the UA to FF 62.0 works on YouTube
    but <u><b>not</b></u><b> </b>FF 63.0...!<br>
    <br>
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Robert
5/11/2019 9:55:40 PM
Robert Traynor wrote:
> On 11/05/2019 8:51 pm, chokito wrote:
>> I had the same problem with SM 2.53. Now I use different UAs per website.
>> general.useragent.override;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0
>> general.useragent.override.instagram.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
>> general.useragent.override.netflix.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
>> general.useragent.override.youtube.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
> 
> I will give your settings a fly.
> 
> BTW, I have found that setting the UA to FF 62.0 works on YouTube but 
> _*not*_**FF 63.0...!
> 
> BobT

Dear Bob,
I do not use /firefox/, only *seamonkey*

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