What is the correct way to override useragent

I have some trouble with the spanish website www.eldiario.es


What is the correct way to specify  override the useragent?

Is it general.useragent.override.eldiario.es ? Or 
browser.useragent.override.eldiario.es ?

I tried "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.9) 
Gecko/20100101 Goanna/4.6 Firefox/68.9 PaleMoon/28.12.0" . What is the 
current  Firefox useragent ?


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On 9/4/2020 9:48 AM, Andr=C3=A9sH wrote:
> I have some trouble with the spanish website www.eldiario.es
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> What is the correct way to specify=C2=A0 override the useragent?
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> Is it general.useragent.override.eldiario.es ? Or=20
> browser.useragent.override.eldiario.es ?
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> I tried "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.9)=20
> Gecko/20100101 Goanna/4.6 Firefox/68.9 PaleMoon/28.12.0" . What is the =

> current=C2=A0 Firefox useragent ?
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The preference is
	general.useragent.override.eldiario.es
Try using the value
	Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:75.0)
		Gecko/20100101 Firefox/75.0
but all on one line.

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David
9/4/2020 5:47:30 PM
Thank you,

Previously I tried both general... and browser... . with other useragent 
strings . This time I tried with Pale Moon because the website functions 
correctly with Pale Moon.

It seems that eldiario.es is one of the several websites which don't 
support SM as in " RottenTomatoes.com rejects SeaMonkey even with fake UA".

Are there some guidelines/tools to diagnose what kind of software they 
use and try to (1) indicate the administrators of the website the origin 
of this behaviour and (2) in the meantime to mitigate the problem ?

Here are some of the cookies I found : BrainHub, _gat_UA-30394221-1.

David E. Ross escribió:
> On 9/4/2020 9:48 AM, AndrésH wrote:
>> I have some trouble with the spanish website www.eldiario.es
>>
>>
>> What is the correct way to specify  override the useragent?
>>
>> Is it general.useragent.override.eldiario.es ? Or
>> browser.useragent.override.eldiario.es ?
>>
>> I tried "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.9)
>> Gecko/20100101 Goanna/4.6 Firefox/68.9 PaleMoon/28.12.0" . What is the
>> current  Firefox useragent ?
>>
>>
> The preference is
> 	general.useragent.override.eldiario.es
> Try using the value
> 	Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:75.0)
> 		Gecko/20100101 Firefox/75.0
> but all on one line.
>

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9/5/2020 3:52:41 PM
On 9/5/20 4:52 PM, AndrésH wrote:
>... 
> It seems that eldiario.es is one of the several websites which don't 
> support SM as in " RottenTomatoes.com rejects SeaMonkey even with fake UA".

With SM 2.53.3, JavaScript disabled (NoScript) and no site styles 
(View>Use Style>None), you can read text from the paper.

With JavaScript disabled and site styles (View>Use Style>Default Style) 
fixed by this user CSS, you can read text from the paper, but with a 
better layout:

body {opacity: 1 !important;}

With www.eldiario.es enabled for JS and site styles, the menu works, and 
you can read the paper with images visible.

/df

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Dirk
9/5/2020 9:38:18 PM
The pages and menu works, but the login process doesn't .

The login process ( the link "inicia sesión" )  apparently works when 
you clear the cookies for the website  , but when you load any article 
the session is not activated. When I tried to write a comment, it says 
that I'm not logged in.

This works well in Firefox and Pale Moon.

I infer that the website that does not support SM.

How can I debug the javascript in order to alert the managers of the 
website of their misbehaviour ?

Dirk Fieldhouse escribió:
> On 9/5/20 4:52 PM, AndrésH wrote:
>> ... It seems that eldiario.es is one of the several websites which 
>> don't support SM as in " RottenTomatoes.com rejects SeaMonkey even 
>> with fake UA".
>
> With SM 2.53.3, JavaScript disabled (NoScript) and no site styles 
> (View>Use Style>None), you can read text from the paper.
>
> With JavaScript disabled and site styles (View>Use Style>Default 
> Style) fixed by this user CSS, you can read text from the paper, but 
> with a better layout:
>
> body {opacity: 1 !important;}
>
> With www.eldiario.es enabled for JS and site styles, the menu works, 
> and you can read the paper with images visible.
>
> /df
>

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9/11/2020 3:02:16 PM
On 9/11/20 4:02 PM, AndrésH wrote:
> The pages and menu works, but the login process doesn't .
> 
> The login process ( the link "inicia sesión" )  apparently works when 
> you clear the cookies for the website  , but when you load any article 
> the session is not activated. When I tried to write a comment, it says 
> that I'm not logged in.
> 
> This works well in Firefox and Pale Moon.
> 
> I infer that the website that does not support SM.
> 
> ...

Might it not just be SM's cookie or User Tracking settings? I don't see 
any links for commenting, so I guess only supporters of the paper have 
that option (hazte social...). Then  top banner maintains the login ID 
when I read an article.

/df

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Dirk
9/11/2020 10:56:20 PM
Dirk Fieldhouse escribió:
> On 9/11/20 4:02 PM, AndrésH wrote:
>> The pages and menu works, but the login process doesn't .
>>
>> The login process ( the link "inicia sesión" )  apparently works when 
>> you clear the cookies for the website  , but when you load any 
>> article the session is not activated. When I tried to write a 
>> comment, it says that I'm not logged in.
>>
>> This works well in Firefox and Pale Moon.
>>
>> I infer that the website that does not support SM.
>>
>> ...
>
> Might it not just be SM's cookie or User Tracking settings? I don't 
> see any links for commenting, so I guess only supporters of the paper 
> have that option (hazte social...). Then  top banner maintains the 
> login ID when I read an article.
>
> /df
>
Indeed only supporters can comment.
Apparently the login process works, I received "hola username" after 
login, but when I try to comment, the website says that I am not logged. 
With Firefox and even Pale Moon , the comments section works.

Every week I test the website to verify that they have resolved the 
problem. And every week I send a new email to their technical department 
asking that they correct this misbehaviour.

Is There a  reader of Spanish newspapers in this newsgroup so that we 
can further investigate and perhaps convince the managers of eldiario.es 
to resolve the problem ?
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9/14/2020 4:27:41 PM
On 9/14/20 5:27 PM, AndrésH wrote:
>...>
> Indeed only supporters can comment.
> Apparently the login process works, I received "hola username" after 
> login, but when I try to comment, the website says that I am not logged. 
> With Firefox and even Pale Moon , the comments section works.
> ...

Is there anything relevant in the Error Console (eg JS errors)?

And I say again, might it not just be SM's cookie or User Tracking settings?

/df

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London
UK
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Dirk
9/15/2020 9:52:58 PM
Dirk Fieldhouse escribió:
> On 9/14/20 5:27 PM, AndrésH wrote:
>> ...>
>> Indeed only supporters can comment.
>> Apparently the login process works, I received "hola username" after 
>> login, but when I try to comment, the website says that I am not 
>> logged. With Firefox and even Pale Moon , the comments section works.
>> ...
>
> Is there anything relevant in the Error Console (eg JS errors)?
>
> And I say again, might it not just be SM's cookie or User Tracking 
> settings?
>
> /df
>
What kind of JS errors should I look for ?
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9/17/2020 3:53:18 PM
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