Testing Marking Cross-posts as read in SeaMonkey

I do a fair bit of reading of posts on UseNet which are often 
cross-posted, but the cross-posts are not getting marked as read.

I know this did function, long ago, in Netscape Navigator, got broken 
(was that in Mozilla Suite??) and still doesn't work in SeaMonkey and, I 
guess, in Thunderbird.

So I'm cross-posting this to three groups on the news.mozilla.org server 
so I can have a bit of a look ... and play!!

The way I figure, there must be information in the message headers which 
is common to all the cross-posts but different to any other posts in any 
of the mentioned groups.

If you're not interested, please killfile this thread in the three news 
groups.
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Daniel
6/13/2018 5:14:16 AM
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On 13/06/2018 07:14, Daniel wrote:

> The way I figure, there must be information in the message headers which 
> is common to all the cross-posts but different to any other posts in any 
> of the mentioned groups.

Yes: the Message-ID.

That of your initial message is <k-mdnZrvbIm2Nb3GnZ2dnUU7-dXNnZ2d@mozilla.org>

Regards.
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Mason83
6/13/2018 11:20:47 AM
CROSS-POSTS REMOVED to keep the discussion in this, the test, group.

Mason83 wrote on 13/06/18 21:20:
> On 13/06/2018 07:14, Daniel wrote:
> 
>> The way I figure, there must be information in the message headers which
>> is common to all the cross-posts but different to any other posts in any
>> of the mentioned groups.
> 
> Yes: the Message-ID.
> 
> That of your initial message is <k-mdnZrvbIm2Nb3GnZ2dnUU7-dXNnZ2d@mozilla.org>
> 
> Regards.
> 
I had been thinking along those lines, but didn't actually think of that 
particular entry. Thank you.

So, if I were to identity the Message-ID and which groups the post was 
cross-posted to by those groups mentioned in the "Newsgroups:" line of 
the header, I could then go to those newsgroups and mark those messages 
with the same Message-ID as read.

But that would mean downloading all those messages onto my computer 
wouldn't it?? That's what I'm trying to ovoid!!

What I was thinking of was, somehow, working out what the numbers of 
those cross-posted posts were in the various groups of the 
"moz.support.seamonkey.rc" and then, in that file, marking the similar 
message numbers in the other lines, i.e. the other news groups, which 
apply to the other newsgroups of the 'rc file.

I'm not sure I'm explaining it well. I guess what I was testing was if a 
post to the moz. test group would have the same reference number, or 
some such, in the other news groups.

I'll continue playing.
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Daniel
6/13/2018 1:59:54 PM
On 6/12/2018 10:14 PM, Daniel wrote:
> I do a fair bit of reading of posts on UseNet which are often 
> cross-posted, but the cross-posts are not getting marked as read.
> 
> I know this did function, long ago, in Netscape Navigator, got broken 
> (was that in Mozilla Suite??) and still doesn't work in SeaMonkey and, I 
> guess, in Thunderbird.
> 
> So I'm cross-posting this to three groups on the news.mozilla.org server 
> so I can have a bit of a look ... and play!!
> 
> The way I figure, there must be information in the message headers which 
> is common to all the cross-posts but different to any other posts in any 
> of the mentioned groups.
> 
> If you're not interested, please killfile this thread in the three news 
> groups.
> 

This is bug #43278, reported 18 years ago.  The problem is in the
MailNews Core component, whiich means it affects both SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  This worked in Netscape Communicator 4, which means that
this could be fixed.

See <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43278>.

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David
6/13/2018 5:43:35 PM
Em 13-06-2018 14:43, David E. Ross escreveu:
> On 6/12/2018 10:14 PM, Daniel wrote:
>> I do a fair bit of reading of posts on UseNet which are often
>> cross-posted, but the cross-posts are not getting marked as read.
>>
>> I know this did function, long ago, in Netscape Navigator, got broken
>> (was that in Mozilla Suite??) and still doesn't work in SeaMonkey and, I
>> guess, in Thunderbird.
>>
>> So I'm cross-posting this to three groups on the news.mozilla.org server
>> so I can have a bit of a look ... and play!!
>>
>> The way I figure, there must be information in the message headers which
>> is common to all the cross-posts but different to any other posts in any
>> of the mentioned groups.
>>
>> If you're not interested, please killfile this thread in the three news
>> groups.
>>
>
> This is bug #43278, reported 18 years ago.  The problem is in the
> MailNews Core component, whiich means it affects both SeaMonkey and
> Thunderbird.  This worked in Netscape Communicator 4, which means that
> this could be fixed.
>
> See <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43278>.
>

 From that page:

- Importance: major
- Status: NEW
- Reported: 18 years ago (as you said)
- Modified: a year ago

An opinion: it is just silly to only write a sentence about when things 
were written, instead of saying the actual date. A year ago may be a 
year and 11 months ago - in other words, a year ago may be in 2016! 18 
years ago may be in the first half of 1999!


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Balaco
6/13/2018 7:36:32 PM
On 6/13/18 3:36 PM, Balaco ocalaB wrote:
> Em 13-06-2018 14:43, David E. Ross escreveu:
>> On 6/12/2018 10:14 PM, Daniel wrote:
>>> I do a fair bit of reading of posts on UseNet which are often
>>> cross-posted, but the cross-posts are not getting marked as read.
>>>
>>> I know this did function, long ago, in Netscape Navigator, got broken
>>> (was that in Mozilla Suite??) and still doesn't work in SeaMonkey and, I
>>> guess, in Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> So I'm cross-posting this to three groups on the news.mozilla.org server
>>> so I can have a bit of a look ... and play!!
>>>
>>> The way I figure, there must be information in the message headers which
>>> is common to all the cross-posts but different to any other posts in any
>>> of the mentioned groups.
>>>
>>> If you're not interested, please killfile this thread in the three news
>>> groups.
>>>
>>
>> This is bug #43278, reported 18 years ago.� The problem is in the
>> MailNews Core component, whiich means it affects both SeaMonkey and
>> Thunderbird.� This worked in Netscape Communicator 4, which means that
>> this could be fixed.
>>
>> See <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43278>.
>>
> 
>  From that page:
> 
> - Importance: major
> - Status: NEW
> - Reported: 18 years ago (as you said)
> - Modified: a year ago
> 
> An opinion: it is just silly to only write a sentence about when things 
> were written, instead of saying the actual date. A year ago may be a 
> year and 11 months ago - in other words, a year ago may be in 2016! 18 
> years ago may be in the first half of 1999!
> 
> 

An opinion: learn how things work.

If you hover your mouse over "18 years ago" you see a tooltip (you know 
what those are, right) with the date 2000-06-21 01:03 PDT.

The same for "a year ago" 2017-03-17 06:51 PDT

The last comment was made "2 years ago" 2016-12-24 11:24 PST.

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WaltS48
6/14/2018 12:01:00 AM
WaltS48 wrote on 14/06/18 10:01:
> On 6/13/18 3:36 PM, Balaco ocalaB wrote:
>> Em 13-06-2018 14:43, David E. Ross escreveu:
>>> On 6/12/2018 10:14 PM, Daniel wrote:
>>>> I do a fair bit of reading of posts on UseNet which are often
>>>> cross-posted, but the cross-posts are not getting marked as read.
>>>>
>>>> I know this did function, long ago, in Netscape Navigator, got broken
>>>> (was that in Mozilla Suite??) and still doesn't work in SeaMonkey 
>>>> and, I
>>>> guess, in Thunderbird.
>>>>
>>>> So I'm cross-posting this to three groups on the news.mozilla.org 
>>>> server
>>>> so I can have a bit of a look ... and play!!
>>>>
>>>> The way I figure, there must be information in the message headers 
>>>> which
>>>> is common to all the cross-posts but different to any other posts in 
>>>> any
>>>> of the mentioned groups.
>>>>
>>>> If you're not interested, please killfile this thread in the three news
>>>> groups.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is bug #43278, reported 18 years ago.� The problem is in the
>>> MailNews Core component, whiich means it affects both SeaMonkey and
>>> Thunderbird.� This worked in Netscape Communicator 4, which means that
>>> this could be fixed.
>>>
>>> See <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43278>.
>>>
>>
>> �From that page:
>>
>> - Importance: major
>> - Status: NEW
>> - Reported: 18 years ago (as you said)
>> - Modified: a year ago
>>
>> An opinion: it is just silly to only write a sentence about when 
>> things were written, instead of saying the actual date. A year ago may 
>> be a year and 11 months ago - in other words, a year ago may be in 
>> 2016! 18 years ago may be in the first half of 1999!
>>
>>
> 
> An opinion: learn how things work.
> 
> If you hover your mouse over "18 years ago" you see a tooltip (you know 
> what those are, right) with the date 2000-06-21 01:03 PDT.
> 
> The same for "a year ago" 2017-03-17 06:51 PDT
> 
> The last comment was made "2 years ago" 2016-12-24 11:24 PST.
> 
Walt, the bug mentioned (43278) mentions the Xref line in the message 
header. It seems that line is common to all the cross-posted messages, 
with (maybe, hopefully) the number following each news group name 
represents the actually message number with-in the group.

So, maybe, it might be as simply (Ha!! Ha!!) as making that number in 
the appropriate groups line of the news.mozilla.com.rc file to indicate 
that the message has been read .... and job done!!

Cross-posted to m.test

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Daniel
6/14/2018 8:19:52 AM
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