I'm running SeaMonkey 1.1.4 on Linux (CentOS 4.5, equivalent to RHEL 4.5) and have an HP LaserJet 4si printer accessed via TCP/IP. I'm using the CUPS printing drivers (cups version 1.1.22, which is the most current for this OS). When I print to this printer using Adobe Acrobat Reader, I am able to specify that the print job should use the printer's Duplex mode. However, when I print from SeaMonkey, I'm not given the option to select Duplex mode. I've downloaded and installed the most current PPD driver from here: <http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_4Si> I selected the postscript driver, which was recommended: HP_LaserJet_4Si_v2011.110.ppd However, this made no difference. I've looked at the contents of the driver file, and it appears to have the Duplex option enabled. I've gone through the CUPS documentation, and I seem to have the printer installed and configured correctly - and as I said above, it works properly when accessed from Acrobat. When I run lpoptions on the printer, I see all the available options, of which Duplex is listed (the asterisk means that None is the default): $ lpoptions -p hp4si -l Smoothing/Resolution Enhancement: *True False Duplex/Duplex (Print Both Sides): *None DuplexNoTumble DuplexTumble ManualFeed/Manual Feed: True False .... Is there anything I can do to get SeaMonkey to recognize that the printer supports duplex mode? Thanks,
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Mark Hansen wrote: > I'm running SeaMonkey 1.1.4 on Linux (CentOS 4.5, equivalent to RHEL 4.5) and > have an HP LaserJet 4si printer accessed via TCP/IP. I'm using the CUPS printing > drivers (cups version 1.1.22, which is the most current for this OS). > > When I print to this printer using Adobe Acrobat Reader, I am able to specify > that the print job should use the printer's Duplex mode. > > However, when I print from SeaMonkey, I'm not given the option to select > Duplex mode. > > I've downloaded and installed the most current PPD driver from here: > > <http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_4Si> > > I selected the postscript driver, which was recommended: > > HP_LaserJet_4Si_v2011.110.ppd > > However, this made no difference. > > I've looked at the contents of the driver file, and it appears to have the > Duplex option enabled. > > I've gone through the CUPS documentation, and I seem to have the printer > installed and configured correctly - and as I said above, it works > properly when accessed from Acrobat. > > When I run lpoptions on the printer, I see all the available options, of > which Duplex is listed (the asterisk means that None is the default): > > $ lpoptions -p hp4si -l > Smoothing/Resolution Enhancement: *True False > Duplex/Duplex (Print Both Sides): *None DuplexNoTumble DuplexTumble > ManualFeed/Manual Feed: True False > ... > > Is there anything I can do to get SeaMonkey to recognize that the printer > supports duplex mode? > > Thanks, Just asking as a dump user, "What is duplex print mode?"
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On 08/29/07 13:23, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: > > Just asking as a dump user, "What is duplex print mode?" Duplex means to print on both sides of the page.
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Mark Hansen wrote: > On 08/29/07 13:23, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: >> Just asking as a dumb user, "What is duplex print mode?" > > Duplex means to print on both sides of the page. set follow up to: mozilla.general As an example my HP Deskjet 990cse has the option of printing book style which means the margins are alternately set left side right side larger as in a book or binder, or tablet style in which the margins are the same on both sides. I don't know about Linux. But on the Mac and probably with Windows on PC. Duplex printing is set in the print driver. And SeaMonkey, FF, or Thunderbird's Print command is only a Pass through it just calls a preset OS command, and really doesn't have anything to do with SM/TB/FF per se. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phillip M. Jones, CET http://www.vpea.org If it's "fixed", don't "break it"! mailto:pjones@kimbanet.com http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm Mac G4-500, OSX.3.9 Mac 17" PowerBook G4-1.67 Gb, OSX.4.10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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On 08/29/07 18:20, Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote: > Mark Hansen wrote: >> On 08/29/07 13:23, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: >>> Just asking as a dumb user, "What is duplex print mode?" >> >> Duplex means to print on both sides of the page. > > set follow up to: mozilla.general > > As an example my HP Deskjet 990cse has the option of printing book style > which means the margins are alternately set left side right side larger > as in a book or binder, or tablet style in which the margins are the > same on both sides. > > I don't know about Linux. But on the Mac and probably with Windows on > PC. Duplex printing is set in the print driver. And SeaMonkey, FF, or > Thunderbird's Print command is only a Pass through it just calls a > preset OS command, and really doesn't have anything to do with SM/TB/FF > per se. > > I don't have this problem on Windows, which is why I specifically said "Linux". When running SeaMonkey on Linux, I am not given the duplex option. And again, I *am* given the option when printing from Adobe Acrobat reader (on Linux) - so I don't think it's the Linux printer driver.
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Mark Hansen wrote: > On 08/29/07 18:20, Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote: > >> Mark Hansen wrote: >> >>> On 08/29/07 13:23, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: >>> >>>> Just asking as a dumb user, "What is duplex print mode?" >>>> >>> Duplex means to print on both sides of the page. >>> >> set follow up to: mozilla.general >> >> As an example my HP Deskjet 990cse has the option of printing book style >> which means the margins are alternately set left side right side larger >> as in a book or binder, or tablet style in which the margins are the >> same on both sides. >> >> I don't know about Linux. But on the Mac and probably with Windows on >> PC. Duplex printing is set in the print driver. And SeaMonkey, FF, or >> Thunderbird's Print command is only a Pass through it just calls a >> preset OS command, and really doesn't have anything to do with SM/TB/FF >> per se. >> >> >> > > I don't have this problem on Windows, which is why I specifically said "Linux". > When running SeaMonkey on Linux, I am not given the duplex option. > > And again, I *am* given the option when printing from Adobe Acrobat reader > (on Linux) - so I don't think it's the Linux printer driver. > > Mark, I run a HP-6110 inkjet-duplex. Long ago, I turned on the duplex long-side switch inside the CUPS, simply to save the hassle of turning it on and off all the time, but in one of my distribution installations, I lost the CUPS for a few days, and like-you, I could have sworn I had a switch in the SeaMonkey-print-window, but when I went to use it about six months ago, there was none there. To prevent having to open the HP-Toolbox every-time just to enable the duplex, which is the main way this multifunctional-printer gets used, I had to once-again permanently-enable duplex in the CUPS. Not the best solution, but it beats having to open HP-Toolbox, CUPS, or add the switch every time manually to the SeaMonkey print-command. You are not alone. Barry.
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On 08/30/2007 07:30 AM, Mark Hansen wrote: > > I don't have this problem on Windows, which is why I specifically said "Linux". > When running SeaMonkey on Linux, I am not given the duplex option. > > And again, I *am* given the option when printing from Adobe Acrobat reader > (on Linux) - so I don't think it's the Linux printer driver. > The same problem with FireFox. What I do is set up a cups-pdf printer, print to a pdf, and then print duplex from there. It's a pain having to do a 2 step process, but the advantage is that you have a pdf to refer back to afterwards. You might try this question on the mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey group - as I suspect that is the only place that you'll get a valid technical response.
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On 08/30/07 08:10, Barry_Gilmour wrote: > Mark Hansen wrote: >> On 08/29/07 18:20, Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote: >> >>> Mark Hansen wrote: >>> >>>> On 08/29/07 13:23, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just asking as a dumb user, "What is duplex print mode?" >>>>> >>>> Duplex means to print on both sides of the page. >>>> >>> set follow up to: mozilla.general >>> >>> As an example my HP Deskjet 990cse has the option of printing book style >>> which means the margins are alternately set left side right side larger >>> as in a book or binder, or tablet style in which the margins are the >>> same on both sides. >>> >>> I don't know about Linux. But on the Mac and probably with Windows on >>> PC. Duplex printing is set in the print driver. And SeaMonkey, FF, or >>> Thunderbird's Print command is only a Pass through it just calls a >>> preset OS command, and really doesn't have anything to do with SM/TB/FF >>> per se. >>> >>> >>> >> >> I don't have this problem on Windows, which is why I specifically said "Linux". >> When running SeaMonkey on Linux, I am not given the duplex option. >> >> And again, I *am* given the option when printing from Adobe Acrobat reader >> (on Linux) - so I don't think it's the Linux printer driver. >> >> > Mark, > I run a HP-6110 inkjet-duplex. Long ago, I turned on the duplex > long-side switch inside the CUPS, simply to save the hassle of turning > it on and off all the time, but in one of my distribution installations, > I lost the CUPS for a few days, and like-you, I could have sworn I had a > switch in the SeaMonkey-print-window, but when I went to use it about > six months ago, there was none there. > To prevent having to open the HP-Toolbox every-time just to enable the > duplex, which is the main way this multifunctional-printer gets used, I > had to once-again permanently-enable duplex in the CUPS. Not the best > solution, but it beats having to open HP-Toolbox, CUPS, or add the > switch every time manually to the SeaMonkey print-command. You are not > alone. Barry. > I went back to SeaMonkey 1.0.2 and don't see the duplex option in the printer dialog. Very strange. I tried a different text editor on Linux (gedit for GNOME) and it provides an option for Duplex. It sure seems to be specific to SeaMonkey.
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On 08/30/07 10:03, NoOp wrote: > On 08/30/2007 07:30 AM, Mark Hansen wrote: > >> >> I don't have this problem on Windows, which is why I specifically said "Linux". >> When running SeaMonkey on Linux, I am not given the duplex option. >> >> And again, I *am* given the option when printing from Adobe Acrobat reader >> (on Linux) - so I don't think it's the Linux printer driver. >> > > The same problem with FireFox. What I do is set up a cups-pdf printer, > print to a pdf, and then print duplex from there. It's a pain having to > do a 2 step process, but the advantage is that you have a pdf to refer > back to afterwards. Do you mean that you create a PDF file, then open that file with acrobat and print from there? Wow. That would be a pain. It's not just large documents that I want to print, but even e-mail messages, etc. Someone else suggested that I edit the CUPS configuration for the printer to enable duplex full time. That made me think that I could just create a second printer configuration, one that defaults to print in Duplex, then just pick the "printer" that is appropriate for the job. I think I'll try this. > You might try this question on the > mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey group - as I suspect that is the only place > that you'll get a valid technical response. Thanks, I'll try that.
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On 08/30/2007 07:30 AM, Mark Hansen wrote: > > I don't have this problem on Windows, which is why I specifically said "Linux". > When running SeaMonkey on Linux, I am not given the duplex option. > > And again, I *am* given the option when printing from Adobe Acrobat reader > (on Linux) - so I don't think it's the Linux printer driver. > Found the bug report: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358393 In about:config|Filter print are several settings that look as if they can be modifed to accomodate duplex. I don't have time to experiment today, but; lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+'-P'}${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME} looks like it will take standard lpr values. There is also a 'print_plex_name' that looks like it may be set to some value - perhaps for duplex?
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Mark Hansen wrote: > On 08/30/07 10:03, NoOp wrote: > >> On 08/30/2007 07:30 AM, Mark Hansen wrote: >> >> >>> I don't have this problem on Windows, which is why I specifically said "Linux". >>> When running SeaMonkey on Linux, I am not given the duplex option. >>> >>> And again, I *am* given the option when printing from Adobe Acrobat reader >>> (on Linux) - so I don't think it's the Linux printer driver. >>> >>> >> The same problem with FireFox. What I do is set up a cups-pdf printer, >> print to a pdf, and then print duplex from there. It's a pain having to >> do a 2 step process, but the advantage is that you have a pdf to refer >> back to afterwards. >> > > Do you mean that you create a PDF file, then open that file with acrobat > and print from there? Wow. That would be a pain. It's not just large > documents that I want to print, but even e-mail messages, etc. > > Someone else suggested that I edit the CUPS configuration for the printer > to enable duplex full time. That made me think that I could just create > a second printer configuration, one that defaults to print in Duplex, then > just pick the "printer" that is appropriate for the job. > > I think I'll try this. > Many thanks Mark, This is an excellent solution! By the way, as far as I recall, all other applications offer duplex-switching in their print-panels, and things like LyX even compose, number, etcetera, pages on the fly, even better than the pretty-print Unix engine within SeaMonkey plug-ins. Thanks for the grouse-suggestion of extra printer-instances, leaving CUPS to turn the switch on and off. That should extend to borderless full-bleed photograph instances. Barry > > >> You might try this question on the >> mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey group - as I suspect that is the only place >> that you'll get a valid technical response. >> > > Thanks, I'll try that. >
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On 08/30/2007 10:13 AM, Mark Hansen wrote: > > Someone else suggested that I edit the CUPS configuration for the printer > to enable duplex full time. That made me think that I could just create > a second printer configuration, one that defaults to print in Duplex, then > just pick the "printer" that is appropriate for the job. > > I think I'll try this. Excellent suggestion! I'll do the same :-)
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On 08/30/07 10:28, NoOp wrote: > On 08/30/2007 07:30 AM, Mark Hansen wrote: > >> >> I don't have this problem on Windows, which is why I specifically said "Linux". >> When running SeaMonkey on Linux, I am not given the duplex option. >> >> And again, I *am* given the option when printing from Adobe Acrobat reader >> (on Linux) - so I don't think it's the Linux printer driver. >> > > Found the bug report: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358393 Yes, that sure sounds like the bug (as well as the dup to which it refers). > > In about:config|Filter print > are several settings that look as if they can be modifed to accomodate > duplex. I don't have time to experiment today, but; > > lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+'-P'}${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME} > > looks like it will take standard lpr values. There is also a > 'print_plex_name' that looks like it may be set to some value - perhaps > for duplex? Well, I really need the ability to select the appropriate mode as I create the print job. However, I did find a property called "can_change_plex" which sounded promising. Setting it to true didn't change the print dialog, but after dismissing the print dialog, the property was set back to false. I would have sworn that this worked on SeaMonkey/Mozilla at some point, but it sure looks like it never did. Thanks,
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Mark Hansen wrote: > On 08/30/07 10:28, NoOp wrote: > >> On 08/30/2007 07:30 AM, Mark Hansen wrote: >> >> >>> I don't have this problem on Windows, which is why I specifically said "Linux". >>> When running SeaMonkey on Linux, I am not given the duplex option. >>> >>> And again, I *am* given the option when printing from Adobe Acrobat reader >>> (on Linux) - so I don't think it's the Linux printer driver. >>> >>> >> Found the bug report: >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358393 >> > > Yes, that sure sounds like the bug (as well as the dup to which it > refers). > > >> In about:config|Filter print >> are several settings that look as if they can be modifed to accomodate >> duplex. I don't have time to experiment today, but; >> >> lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+'-P'}${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME} >> >> looks like it will take standard lpr values. There is also a >> 'print_plex_name' that looks like it may be set to some value - perhaps >> for duplex? >> > > Well, I really need the ability to select the appropriate mode as I > create the print job. However, I did find a property called "can_change_plex" > which sounded promising. Setting it to true didn't change the print dialog, > but after dismissing the print dialog, the property was set back to false. > > I would have sworn that this worked on SeaMonkey/Mozilla at some point, but > it sure looks like it never did. > > Thanks, > Mark, I have previously used this portrait-setting, entered into the print-panel's printer-command-cell, and I am pretty-sure I remember it staying there, rather than editing the about:config directly. You would have to edit the little panel every time you needed a change. I like your concept of multiple printers into the same CUPS better. My printer is down at the moment, else I'd road-test it for you. Barry. lpr -o two-sided-long-edge ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+'-P'}${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME}
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On 08/30/2007 10:54 AM, NoOp wrote: > On 08/30/2007 10:13 AM, Mark Hansen wrote: > >> >> Someone else suggested that I edit the CUPS configuration for the printer >> to enable duplex full time. That made me think that I could just create >> a second printer configuration, one that defaults to print in Duplex, then >> just pick the "printer" that is appropriate for the job. >> >> I think I'll try this. > > Excellent suggestion! I'll do the same :-) Worked & thanks much for the suggestion! Did the same (set up an added configuration) for color photo prints as I typically have my printer set for gray scale to save on the color ink & sometimes had to go back in and fiddle with the settings for the top photo paper tray & ink settings whenever I print any serious photos on my Canon MP750.
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Mark Hansen wrote: > I'm running SeaMonkey 1.1.4 on Linux (CentOS 4.5, equivalent to RHEL 4.5) and > have an HP LaserJet 4si printer accessed via TCP/IP. I'm using the CUPS printing > drivers (cups version 1.1.22, which is the most current for this OS). When you do a print you should get a grey popup titled "print" asking for some options. In the upper right area is a button marked "properties" in which you can add to the print command any options you need. You can even prefix lpr with the "mpage" command and use the options there to duplex and flip on whichever axis is appropriate. Method two: define several print queues using the system-config-print tool, and set the driver options there. I have queue names for draft, high quality, color, photo paper, legal, and duplex. Worked on RHEL3, CentOS4, and FC{2,5,6,7}, so it should work for you. > > When I print to this printer using Adobe Acrobat Reader, I am able to specify > that the print job should use the printer's Duplex mode. > > However, when I print from SeaMonkey, I'm not given the option to select > Duplex mode. > > I've downloaded and installed the most current PPD driver from here: > > <http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_4Si> > > I selected the postscript driver, which was recommended: > > HP_LaserJet_4Si_v2011.110.ppd > > However, this made no difference. > > I've looked at the contents of the driver file, and it appears to have the > Duplex option enabled. > > I've gone through the CUPS documentation, and I seem to have the printer > installed and configured correctly - and as I said above, it works > properly when accessed from Acrobat. > > When I run lpoptions on the printer, I see all the available options, of > which Duplex is listed (the asterisk means that None is the default): > > $ lpoptions -p hp4si -l > Smoothing/Resolution Enhancement: *True False > Duplex/Duplex (Print Both Sides): *None DuplexNoTumble DuplexTumble > ManualFeed/Manual Feed: True False > ... > > Is there anything I can do to get SeaMonkey to recognize that the printer > supports duplex mode? > > Thanks, -- Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
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On 09/08/07 11:10, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Mark Hansen wrote: >> I'm running SeaMonkey 1.1.4 on Linux (CentOS 4.5, equivalent to RHEL 4.5) and >> have an HP LaserJet 4si printer accessed via TCP/IP. I'm using the CUPS printing >> drivers (cups version 1.1.22, which is the most current for this OS). > > When you do a print you should get a grey popup titled "print" asking > for some options. In the upper right area is a button marked > "properties" in which you can add to the print command any options you > need. You can even prefix lpr with the "mpage" command and use the > options there to duplex and flip on whichever axis is appropriate. You get than when printing from SeaMonkey 1.1.4 on Linux? I don't. When I click on the Properties button, I get a small dialog with the following options: Paper Size: [Letter (8.5x11 inch) ] Color: * GrayScale O Color |- Gap from edge of paper to Margin -----------------------------------| | Top: [0.04 ] Bottom: [0.04 ] Left: [0.04 ] Right: [0.04 ] | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| [ OK ] [ CANCEL ] > > Method two: define several print queues using the system-config-print > tool, and set the driver options there. I have queue names for draft, > high quality, color, photo paper, legal, and duplex. As I said in another post in this thread, this is the approach I've decided to take. Thanks,
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Mark Hansen wrote: > On 09/08/07 11:10, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> Mark Hansen wrote: >>> I'm running SeaMonkey 1.1.4 on Linux (CentOS 4.5, equivalent to RHEL 4.5) and >>> have an HP LaserJet 4si printer accessed via TCP/IP. I'm using the CUPS printing >>> drivers (cups version 1.1.22, which is the most current for this OS). >> When you do a print you should get a grey popup titled "print" asking >> for some options. In the upper right area is a button marked >> "properties" in which you can add to the print command any options you >> need. You can even prefix lpr with the "mpage" command and use the >> options there to duplex and flip on whichever axis is appropriate. > > You get than when printing from SeaMonkey 1.1.4 on Linux? I don't. > > When I click on the Properties button, I get a small dialog with > the following options: > > Paper Size: [Letter (8.5x11 inch) ] =====> lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+'-P'}${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME} > Color: * GrayScale O Color > > |- Gap from edge of paper to Margin -----------------------------------| > | Top: [0.04 ] Bottom: [0.04 ] Left: [0.04 ] Right: [0.04 ] | > |----------------------------------------------------------------------| > > [ OK ] [ CANCEL ] And I did c&p show that "lpr" line. No idea if it's an option or ??? Mine all do that, though, it's not some option I set. Hum, tried a fresh virgin profile to see if it's something you set? > >> Method two: define several print queues using the system-config-print >> tool, and set the driver options there. I have queue names for draft, >> high quality, color, photo paper, legal, and duplex. > > As I said in another post in this thread, this is the approach I've decided > to take. > > Thanks, -- Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
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On 09/12/07 05:50, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Mark Hansen wrote: >> On 09/08/07 11:10, Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> Mark Hansen wrote: >>>> I'm running SeaMonkey 1.1.4 on Linux (CentOS 4.5, equivalent to RHEL 4.5) and >>>> have an HP LaserJet 4si printer accessed via TCP/IP. I'm using the CUPS printing >>>> drivers (cups version 1.1.22, which is the most current for this OS). >>> When you do a print you should get a grey popup titled "print" asking >>> for some options. In the upper right area is a button marked >>> "properties" in which you can add to the print command any options you >>> need. You can even prefix lpr with the "mpage" command and use the >>> options there to duplex and flip on whichever axis is appropriate. >> >> You get than when printing from SeaMonkey 1.1.4 on Linux? I don't. >> >> When I click on the Properties button, I get a small dialog with >> the following options: >> >> Paper Size: [Letter (8.5x11 inch) ] > =====> lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+'-P'}${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME} My setting for "print.print_command" has not been changed from the default, which is: "lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+'-P'}${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME}" >> Color: * GrayScale O Color >> >> |- Gap from edge of paper to Margin -----------------------------------| >> | Top: [0.04 ] Bottom: [0.04 ] Left: [0.04 ] Right: [0.04 ] | >> |----------------------------------------------------------------------| >> >> [ OK ] [ CANCEL ] > > And I did c&p show that "lpr" line. No idea if it's an option or ??? > Mine all do that, though, it's not some option I set. Hum, tried a fresh > virgin profile to see if it's something you set? I just created a new profile and tried it there, and I get the same result: No way to adjust the print command. Perhaps you have a config setting which allows for this? Thanks again for the help,
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