Not A Robot

I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot 
authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
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Tom
5/14/2019 12:27:59 PM
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Tom Pamin wrote:
> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot 
> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?

That has to be a site thing - I sent some messages off a few hours ago 
and had to authenticate that way.

What site?

Oh, and something you could try (although it may well have side-effects):
Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> HTTP Networking
and toggle "Advertise Firefox compatibility" under "User Agent String".

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Don
5/14/2019 1:41:38 PM
On 5/14/2019 5:27 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:
> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot 
> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
> 

What is your preference for images: Do not load any images, Only load
images from the originating server, or Load all images?

Check this by going to [Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security >
Images].  You might need to select the third item.

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David
5/14/2019 2:28:43 PM
Tom Pamin wrote:
> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?

Try spoofing your UA string to FF 55.0 or something other than 64,65,66.
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Paul
5/14/2019 8:39:11 PM
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> Tom Pamin wrote:
>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot 
>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
> 
> That has to be a site thing - I sent some messages off a few hours ago 
> and had to authenticate that way.
> 
> What site?
> 
> Oh, and something you could try (although it may well have side-effects):
> Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> HTTP Networking
> and toggle "Advertise Firefox compatibility" under "User Agent String".
> 
It's this site for example: 
https://selfcare.twcc.com/index.cfm?method=login.login

I also have the compatibility box checked.
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Tom
5/14/2019 9:28:23 PM
David E. Ross wrote:
> On 5/14/2019 5:27 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:
>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>
> 
> What is your preference for images: Do not load any images, Only load
> images from the originating server, or Load all images?
> 
> Check this by going to [Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security >
> Images].  You might need to select the third item.
> 
I have load all images selected.
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Tom
5/14/2019 9:28:53 PM
Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> Tom Pamin wrote:
>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
> 
> Try spoofing your UA string to FF 55.0 or something other than 64,65,66.

My UA string shows 64.0. If I go back to 55 won't this cause issues with 
sites saying my browser is old?
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Tom
5/14/2019 9:30:19 PM
Tom Pamin composed on 2019-05-14 17:30 (UTC-0400):

>> Try spoofing your UA string to FF 55.0 or something other than 64,65,66.

> My UA string shows 64.0. If I go back to 55 won't this cause issues with 
> sites saying my browser is old? 

Current ESR is 60. I use 60 for several sites via about:config:

general.useragent.override.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0

My normal is:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4
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Felix
5/14/2019 9:41:06 PM
Tom Pamin wrote:
> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot 
>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>
>> That has to be a site thing - I sent some messages off a few hours ago 
>> and had to authenticate that way.
>>
>> What site?
>>
>> Oh, and something you could try (although it may well have side-effects):
>> Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> HTTP Networking
>> and toggle "Advertise Firefox compatibility" under "User Agent String".
>>
> It's this site for example: 
> https://selfcare.twcc.com/index.cfm?method=login.login
> 
> I also have the compatibility box checked.

Here's another site: 
https://account.hallmark.com/#/signin?URL=https:%2F%2Fwww.hallmark.com%2F
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Tom
5/14/2019 9:59:20 PM
As suggested before, advertise what your browser is actually compatible
with (SM 2.49.4 => FF ESR52) so that at least you don't mislead
cretinously designed sites that rely on the UA string.

Properly designed sites that conform to standards and check for
functionality instead of product names and versions will work regardless.

Then reserve spoofing for the lowlife scum who demand a specific or the
latest version of a specific UA.

/df

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Dirk
5/14/2019 10:06:23 PM
Tom Pamin wrote:
> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>
>> Try spoofing your UA string to FF 55.0 or something other than 64,65,66.
>
> My UA string shows 64.0. If I go back to 55 won't this cause issues with
> sites saying my browser is old?

Maybe. Try it and see.

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Paul
5/14/2019 11:05:14 PM
Tom Pamin wrote:
> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot 
>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>
>> That has to be a site thing - I sent some messages off a few hours ago 
>> and had to authenticate that way.
>>
>> What site?
>>
>> Oh, and something you could try (although it may well have side-effects):
>> Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> HTTP Networking
>> and toggle "Advertise Firefox compatibility" under "User Agent String".
>>
> It's this site for example: 
> https://selfcare.twcc.com/index.cfm?method=login.login
> 
> I also have the compatibility box checked.

I can see the images on that site, no problems at all.
As to the Hallmark site, it seems to need a logon; I don't have one and 
am not about to create one.  Since the first site works anyway, this is 
not a direct Seamonkey problem.
Just comparing User Agent strings from our respective postings:
Yours: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/64.0
Mine:  Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4
Felix: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I must admit I don't understand some of the discrepancies:
- that Firefox value, also mirrored in the "rv" field
- the fact that your Seamonkey value is missing altogether.
- I'd guess that Felix is not advertising FF compatability, I am.

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Don
5/15/2019 11:11:09 AM
Tom Pamin wrote:
> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot 
>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>
>> That has to be a site thing - I sent some messages off a few hours ago 
>> and had to authenticate that way.
>>
>> What site?
>>
>> Oh, and something you could try (although it may well have side-effects):
>> Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> HTTP Networking
>> and toggle "Advertise Firefox compatibility" under "User Agent String".
>>
> It's this site for example: 
> https://selfcare.twcc.com/index.cfm?method=login.login
> 
> I also have the compatibility box checked.

WFM, I requested two new Captchas and they were fine, too.

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--
Paul B. Gallagher

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Paul
5/15/2019 12:43:05 PM
Tom Pamin wrote:
> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot 
> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?

I just tried SM in Safe Mode. Still no images showing.
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Tom
5/16/2019 9:43:53 AM
On 5/16/2019 2:43 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:
> Tom Pamin wrote:
>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot 
>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
> 
> I just tried SM in Safe Mode. Still no images showing.

How about a new SM profile?
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Ant
5/16/2019 6:08:44 PM
Tom Pamin wrote:
> Tom Pamin wrote:
>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>
> I just tried SM in Safe Mode. Still no images showing.

Your UA shows that you have not changed it; unless you changed it
and then put it back. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; 
rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101  Firefox/64.0.

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Paul
5/16/2019 6:49:04 PM
Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> Tom Pamin wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>
>> I just tried SM in Safe Mode. Still no images showing.
> 
> Your UA shows that you have not changed it; unless you changed it
> and then put it back. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; 
> rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101  Firefox/64.0.
> 
I changed FF to 55.0 - still no images showing.
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Tom
5/17/2019 12:44:39 AM
Tom Pamin wrote:
> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>>
>>> I just tried SM in Safe Mode. Still no images showing.
>>
>> Your UA shows that you have not changed it; unless you changed it
>> and then put it back. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
>> rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101  Firefox/64.0.
>>
> I changed FF to 55.0 - still no images showing.

Darn.  Was hoping that was it since it works for me.
Safe mode should have turned off all extras.
That leaves a new profile as Ant mentioned.
Possible corrupt SM install.
Possible an anti virus or fire wall is blocking images from those sites.
Turn those off for a short time and try only those sites and see.


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Paul
5/17/2019 2:50:28 AM
Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> Tom Pamin wrote:
>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>>>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>>>
>>>> I just tried SM in Safe Mode. Still no images showing.
>>>
>>> Your UA shows that you have not changed it; unless you changed it
>>> and then put it back. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
>>> rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101  Firefox/64.0.
>>>
>> I changed FF to 55.0 - still no images showing.
> 
> Darn.  Was hoping that was it since it works for me.
> Safe mode should have turned off all extras.ple days. Does seem strange that all org
> That leaves a new profile as Ant mentioned.
> Possible corrupt SM install.
> Possible an anti virus or fire wall is blocking images from those sites.
> Turn those off for a short time and try only those sites and see.
> 
> 
I'll try my other PC's in the next couple days. Does seem strange that 
all other images on SM display fine, except for those Captcha ones.
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Tom
5/17/2019 10:42:56 AM
Tom Pamin wrote:
> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>>>>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> I just tried SM in Safe Mode. Still no images showing.
>>>>
>>>> Your UA shows that you have not changed it; unless you changed it
>>>> and then put it back. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
>>>> rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101  Firefox/64.0.
>>>>
>>> I changed FF to 55.0 - still no images showing.
>>
>> Darn.  Was hoping that was it since it works for me.
>> Safe mode should have turned off all extras.ple days. Does seem 
>> strange that all org
>> That leaves a new profile as Ant mentioned.
>> Possible corrupt SM install.
>> Possible an anti virus or fire wall is blocking images from those sites.
>> Turn those off for a short time and try only those sites and see.
>>
>>
> I'll try my other PC's in the next couple days. Does seem strange that 
> all other images on SM display fine, except for those Captcha ones.

Only one PC out of my 5 has the robot problem. Any ideas what I can 
compare to see why this one PC is different?

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Tom
5/19/2019 10:54:05 AM
Tom Pamin wrote:
> Tom Pamin wrote:
>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>>>>>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just tried SM in Safe Mode. Still no images showing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your UA shows that you have not changed it; unless you changed it
>>>>> and then put it back. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
>>>>> rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101  Firefox/64.0.
>>>>>
>>>> I changed FF to 55.0 - still no images showing.
>>>
>>> Darn.  Was hoping that was it since it works for me.
>>> Safe mode should have turned off all extras.ple days. Does seem
>>> strange that all org
>>> That leaves a new profile as Ant mentioned.
>>> Possible corrupt SM install.
>>> Possible an anti virus or fire wall is blocking images from those sites.
>>> Turn those off for a short time and try only those sites and see.
>>>
>>>
>> I'll try my other PC's in the next couple days. Does seem strange that
>> all other images on SM display fine, except for those Captcha ones.
>
> Only one PC out of my 5 has the robot problem. Any ideas what I can
> compare to see why this one PC is different?

Make sure that block images from remote sources is not checked.
Reset your DNS device (router, etc) and then try.
Turn off AV and fire wall and try.
The list is long with lots of things to try.

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Paul
5/19/2019 6:04:49 PM
Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> Tom Pamin wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>>>>>>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just tried SM in Safe Mode. Still no images showing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your UA shows that you have not changed it; unless you changed it
>>>>>> and then put it back. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
>>>>>> rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101  Firefox/64.0.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I changed FF to 55.0 - still no images showing.
>>>>
>>>> Darn.  Was hoping that was it since it works for me.
>>>> Safe mode should have turned off all extras.ple days. Does seem
>>>> strange that all org
>>>> That leaves a new profile as Ant mentioned.
>>>> Possible corrupt SM install.
>>>> Possible an anti virus or fire wall is blocking images from those 
>>>> sites.
>>>> Turn those off for a short time and try only those sites and see.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'll try my other PC's in the next couple days. Does seem strange that
>>> all other images on SM display fine, except for those Captcha ones.
>>
>> Only one PC out of my 5 has the robot problem. Any ideas what I can
>> compare to see why this one PC is different?
> 
> Make sure that block images from remote sources is not checked.
> Reset your DNS device (router, etc) and then try.
> Turn off AV and fire wall and try.
> The list is long with lots of things to try.
> 
I see block images under email, but is it under the browser prefs too? 
So far nothing has worked.
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Tom
5/19/2019 10:37:33 PM
On 2019-05-19, Tom Pamin wrote:

> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>>>>>>>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just tried SM in Safe Mode. Still no images showing.
[...]
>>>> I'll try my other PC's in the next couple days. Does seem strange that
>>>> all other images on SM display fine, except for those Captcha ones.
>>>
>>> Only one PC out of my 5 has the robot problem. Any ideas what I can
>>> compare to see why this one PC is different?
>>
>> Make sure that block images from remote sources is not checked.
>> Reset your DNS device (router, etc) and then try.
>> Turn off AV and fire wall and try.
>> The list is long with lots of things to try.
>>
> I see block images under email, but is it under the browser prefs too?
> So far nothing has worked.

That's probably "Image Acceptance Policy" (preferences window, "Privacy
& Security" -> "Images"), which can be set to block third-party/remote
images.


Images from specific sources could also be blocked:

There might be a better way to do this, but check the "Page Info" for
the problematic page (ctrl+I or context menu->"View Page Info"). The
"Media" tab has a list of items in the page, see if the missing images
are there and if the "block images from [hostname]..."  checkbox is
checked.

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Nuno
5/20/2019 12:07:51 AM
On 2019-05-20, Nuno Silva wrote:

> On 2019-05-19, Tom Pamin wrote:
>
>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>>>>>>>>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just tried SM in Safe Mode. Still no images showing.
> [...]
>>>>> I'll try my other PC's in the next couple days. Does seem strange that
>>>>> all other images on SM display fine, except for those Captcha ones.
>>>>
>>>> Only one PC out of my 5 has the robot problem. Any ideas what I can
>>>> compare to see why this one PC is different?
>>>
>>> Make sure that block images from remote sources is not checked.
>>> Reset your DNS device (router, etc) and then try.
>>> Turn off AV and fire wall and try.
>>> The list is long with lots of things to try.
>>>
>> I see block images under email, but is it under the browser prefs too?
>> So far nothing has worked.
>
> That's probably "Image Acceptance Policy" (preferences window, "Privacy
> & Security" -> "Images"), which can be set to block third-party/remote
> images.
>
>
> Images from specific sources could also be blocked:
>
> There might be a better way to do this, but check the "Page Info" for
> the problematic page (ctrl+I or context menu->"View Page Info"). The
> "Media" tab has a list of items in the page, see if the missing images
> are there and if the "block images from [hostname]..."  checkbox is
> checked.

(And the "Manage Permissions" button in "Privacy & Security" -> "Images"
offers another way of checking/managing these site-specific blocks.)

-- 
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Nuno
5/20/2019 12:19:04 AM
Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2019-05-19, Tom Pamin wrote:
> 
>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>>>>>>>>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just tried SM in Safe Mode. Still no images showing.
> [...]
>>>>> I'll try my other PC's in the next couple days. Does seem strange that
>>>>> all other images on SM display fine, except for those Captcha ones.
>>>>
>>>> Only one PC out of my 5 has the robot problem. Any ideas what I can
>>>> compare to see why this one PC is different?
>>>
>>> Make sure that block images from remote sources is not checked.
>>> Reset your DNS device (router, etc) and then try.
>>> Turn off AV and fire wall and try.
>>> The list is long with lots of things to try.
>>>
>> I see block images under email, but is it under the browser prefs too?
>> So far nothing has worked.
> 
> That's probably "Image Acceptance Policy" (preferences window, "Privacy
> & Security" -> "Images"), which can be set to block third-party/remote
> images.
> 
> 
> Images from specific sources could also be blocked:
> 
> There might be a better way to do this, but check the "Page Info" for
> the problematic page (ctrl+I or context menu->"View Page Info"). The
> "Media" tab has a list of items in the page, see if the missing images
> are there and if the "block images from [hostname]..."  checkbox is
> checked.
> 
That solved it! Finally. Under the Media tab I had the box
checked to block images from Google.com. No idea why, but that fixed it. 
It now works on a 2nd site too. Thanks a lot!
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Sanpam
5/20/2019 1:50:15 AM
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