Having problems with "Threads with Unread" in mozilla.support.seamonkey on news.mozilla.org in SeaMonkey v1.06.

Hello,

I seem to have found another problem after uninstalling Mozilla v1.7.13 
(kept my profiles and did not delete my Mozilla folder/directory to copy 
the extensions and plugins) and installing SeaMonkey v1.06 last night in 
Windows XP Pro. SP2 (all updates).

2 screen shots: 
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9589/mozillasupportseamonkeyec0.gif 
.... I can't seem to make "Threads with Unread" work in 
mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup on news.mozilla.org news server. I 
tried unsubscribing, resubscribing, changing options, compacting 
(compact if 100+ KB in settings) etc.

I even tried messing with and deleting the *.msf and *.dat files, but 
they didn't seem to help. Here's my directory listing:

  Volume in drive C is AFA64-C
  Volume Serial Number is 1234567

  Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Ant\Application 
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\ant\a29qh331.slt\News

12/10/2006  04:53 PM    <DIR>          .
12/10/2006  04:53 PM    <DIR>          ..
12/10/2006  04:52 PM    <DIR>          host-msnews.microsoft.com
12/10/2006  04:55 PM    <DIR>          Host-news.tin.org
12/10/2006  04:56 PM             1,257 host-news.tin.org.msf
12/01/2006  11:58 PM             2,220 msnews.rc
12/10/2006  05:03 PM    <DIR>          news.mozilla.org
12/10/2006  05:02 PM             1,187 news.mozilla.org.msf
12/10/2006  05:08 PM               146 news.mozilla.org.rc
12/10/2006  04:57 PM                74 newsRNJJ.rc
                5 File(s)          4,884 bytes

  Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Ant\Application 
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\ant\a29qh331.slt\News\host-msnews.microsoft.com

12/10/2006  04:52 PM    <DIR>          .
12/10/2006  04:52 PM    <DIR>          ..
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,317 
microsoft.public.directx.app_compat.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,317 microsoft.public.directx.audio.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 microsoft.public.directx.graphics.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,317 
microsoft.public.directx.input_devices.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,317 microsoft.public.directx.misc.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,317 
microsoft.public.directx.networking.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,317 microsoft.public.directx.video.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 microsoft.public.mac.virtualpc.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 
microsoft.public.multimedia.windows.mediaplayer.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 microsoft.public.office.misc.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 microsoft.public.office.setup.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 microsoft.public.officeupdate.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 microsoft.public.powerpoint.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,309 
microsoft.public.security.hfnetchk.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 microsoft.public.win2000.general.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 microsoft.public.win2000.hardware.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 microsoft.public.win2000.registry.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 microsoft.public.win2000.setup.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 
microsoft.public.win2000.windows_update.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 microsoft.public.windbg.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.setup.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 
microsoft.public.windows.mediacenter.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,317 
microsoft.public.windows.mediacenter.portable.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 
microsoft.public.windowsmedia.encoder.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,317 
microsoft.public.windowsmedia.encoder.optimization.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 microsoft.public.windowsmedia.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 
microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,358 
microsoft.public.windowsmedia.tools.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 microsoft.public.windowsupdate.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 
microsoft.public.windowsxp.configuration_manage.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 
microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 microsoft.public.windowsxp.games.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,320 
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 
microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 
microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 microsoft.public.windowsxp.music.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 
microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 
microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 
microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 
microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 
microsoft.public.windowsxp.setup_deployment.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 microsoft.public.windowsxp.video.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,319 microsoft.public.word.newusers.msf
12/10/2006  04:57 PM             1,318 
microsoft.public.word.word6-7macros.msf
               47 File(s)         61,990 bytes

  Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Ant\Application 
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\ant\a29qh331.slt\News\Host-news.tin.org

12/10/2006  04:55 PM    <DIR>          .
12/10/2006  04:55 PM    <DIR>          ..
12/10/2006  04:53 PM                27 msgFilterRules.dat
12/10/2006  04:55 PM                27 tin.announce.dat
12/10/2006  04:58 PM             2,827 tin.announce.msf
12/10/2006  04:55 PM                27 tin.bugs.dat
12/10/2006  04:56 PM            18,191 tin.bugs.msf
12/10/2006  04:53 PM                27 tin.dev.dat
12/10/2006  04:56 PM             7,477 tin.dev.msf
12/10/2006  04:55 PM                27 tin.users.dat
12/10/2006  04:56 PM             6,052 tin.users.msf
                9 File(s)         34,682 bytes

  Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Ant\Application 
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\ant\a29qh331.slt\News\news.mozilla.org

12/10/2006  05:03 PM    <DIR>          .
12/10/2006  05:03 PM    <DIR>          ..
12/10/2006  05:03 PM             5,958 hostinfo.dat
12/10/2006  04:49 PM                27 mozilla.announce.dat
12/10/2006  05:03 PM             2,429 mozilla.announce.msf
12/10/2006  04:49 PM                27 mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey.dat
12/10/2006  05:03 PM             5,672 mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey.msf
12/10/2006  04:48 PM                27 mozilla.support.seamonkey.dat
12/10/2006  05:03 PM            36,808 mozilla.support.seamonkey.msf
12/10/2006  04:48 PM                27 msgFilterRules.dat
12/10/2006  04:48 PM                27 netscape.public.mozilla.unix.dat
12/10/2006  05:03 PM             7,586 netscape.public.mozilla.unix.msf
               10 File(s)         58,588 bytes

      Total Files Listed:
               71 File(s)        160,144 bytes
               11 Dir(s)     937,676,800 bytes free


I sort of reproduced this in Linux/Debian with IceApe v1.06 for 
netscape.public.mozilla.unix newsgroup. I was able to fix it by 
unsubscribing, resubscribing, and redownloading 100 posts. What's wrong?

Thank you in advance. :)
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Ant wrote:

> 2 screen shots: 
> http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9589/mozillasupportseamonkeyec0.gif 
> ... I can't seem to make "Threads with Unread" work in 
> mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup on news.mozilla.org news server

That screenshot looks reasonable to me; what were you expecting to see?

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Neil
12/11/2006 8:00:21 AM
On 12/11/2006 12:00 AM PT, Neil wrote:

>> 2 screen shots: 
>> http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9589/mozillasupportseamonkeyec0.gif 
>> ... I can't seem to make "Threads with Unread" work in 
>> mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup on news.mozilla.org news server
> 
> That screenshot looks reasonable to me; what were you expecting to see?

I was expecting none to show up or only black bolded texts for unread 
ones. This is after I close/reopen this newsgroup or came in from 
another newsgroup.
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Ant
12/11/2006 8:59:56 AM
Ant wrote:

> On 12/11/2006 12:00 AM PT, Neil wrote:
>
>>> 2 screen shots: 
>>> http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9589/mozillasupportseamonkeyec0.gif 
>>> ... I can't seem to make "Threads with Unread" work in 
>>> mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup on news.mozilla.org news server
>>
>> That screenshot looks reasonable to me; what were you expecting to see?
>
> I was expecting none to show up or only black bolded texts for unread 
> ones. This is after I close/reopen this newsgroup or came in from 
> another newsgroup.

The "Threads with Unread" display is similar to the "All" display, 
except it only displays those threads with the green arrow over the 
thread symbol. Contrast this with the "Unread" display, which only 
(initially) displays unread messages; this view can be threaded although 
personally I find it hard to follow like that so I only use it as a flat 
view.

Note that an underlined collapsed thread header indicates that although 
the initial message is read there are (now) unread child messages.

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Neil
12/11/2006 9:25:54 AM
On 12/11/2006 1:25 AM PT, Neil wrote:

>>>> 2 screen shots: 
>>>> http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9589/mozillasupportseamonkeyec0.gif 
>>>> ... I can't seem to make "Threads with Unread" work in 
>>>> mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup on news.mozilla.org news server
>>>
>>> That screenshot looks reasonable to me; what were you expecting to see?
>>
>> I was expecting none to show up or only black bolded texts for unread 
>> ones. This is after I close/reopen this newsgroup or came in from 
>> another newsgroup.
> 
> The "Threads with Unread" display is similar to the "All" display, 
> except it only displays those threads with the green arrow over the 
> thread symbol. Contrast this with the "Unread" display, which only 
> (initially) displays unread messages; this view can be threaded although 
> personally I find it hard to follow like that so I only use it as a flat 
> view.
> 
> Note that an underlined collapsed thread header indicates that although 
> the initial message is read there are (now) unread child messages.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6508/unreadte3.gif Well, here's 
another screen shot with old read threads still showing. I expected 
those old threads to be gone. I also checked other newsgroups, and they 
were gone (correct).
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Ant
12/11/2006 10:06:23 AM
Ant wrote:

> On 12/11/2006 1:25 AM PT, Neil wrote:
>
>> The "Threads with Unread" display is similar to the "All" display, 
>> except it only displays those threads with the green arrow over the 
>> thread symbol. Contrast this with the "Unread" display, which only 
>> (initially) displays unread messages; this view can be threaded 
>> although personally I find it hard to follow like that so I only use 
>> it as a flat view.
>>
>> Note that an underlined collapsed thread header indicates that 
>> although the initial message is read there are (now) unread child 
>> messages.
>
> http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6508/unreadte3.gif Well, here's 
> another screen shot with old read threads still showing. I expected 
> those old threads to be gone. I also checked other newsgroups, and 
> they were gone (correct).

So the threads are showing as unread (green arrow on the thread symbol - 
unfortunately your screenshot of the menu obscures this) but the actual 
messages are all read? I think I've heard of this problem before, but I 
can't remember what the cure might be... try mark all read, or select 
all, mark read.

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Neil
12/11/2006 12:38:10 PM
On 12/11/2006 4:38 AM PT, Neil wrote:

> Ant wrote:
> 
>> On 12/11/2006 1:25 AM PT, Neil wrote:
>>
>>> The "Threads with Unread" display is similar to the "All" display, 
>>> except it only displays those threads with the green arrow over the 
>>> thread symbol. Contrast this with the "Unread" display, which only 
>>> (initially) displays unread messages; this view can be threaded 
>>> although personally I find it hard to follow like that so I only use 
>>> it as a flat view.
>>>
>>> Note that an underlined collapsed thread header indicates that 
>>> although the initial message is read there are (now) unread child 
>>> messages.
>>
>> http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6508/unreadte3.gif Well, here's 
>> another screen shot with old read threads still showing. I expected 
>> those old threads to be gone. I also checked other newsgroups, and 
>> they were gone (correct).
> 
> So the threads are showing as unread (green arrow on the thread symbol - 
> unfortunately your screenshot of the menu obscures this) but the actual 
> messages are all read? I think I've heard of this problem before, but I 
> can't remember what the cure might be... try mark all read, or select 
> all, mark read.

Oops, I forgot to screen capture that column. They did not have green 
down arrows and yet these read threads still show up when I asked for 
unread. :(

I can't seem to reproduce this at work. Odd. Is there anywhere else that 
Mozilla keeps newsgroup datas?
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Phillip
12/11/2006 8:12:36 PM
Hi,

The way I have it set up is to "View:Messages:All", then 
"View:Threads:Unread". You should then find after you've finished 
reading messages (and marking them as read) that NEXT time you go back 
to the newsgroup, you will NOT see messages you marked as read the 
previous day.

Obviously, while you're in the same news reading session you will be 
able to see read messages in the listing, but not in bold.

This is assuming all newsgroup "account settings" are on default; 
there's quite a few settings you can change in the "account settings" 
that could cause all kinds of problems relating to what's expired. If 
you've had Mozilla for a long time, you may also have a corrupt MSF file.

There's an annoying and unnecessary bug in Mozilla that means MSF files 
are NOT deleted when you unsubscribe/resubscribe from a newsgroup.

If you know what you're doing, you can exit Mozilla and zap these MSF 
files (or zap all news stuff if you want and then reconfigure). Zapping 
the MSF files will reset all the read/unread data.

Phillip Pi wrote:
> On 12/11/2006 4:38 AM PT, Neil wrote:
> 
>> Ant wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/11/2006 1:25 AM PT, Neil wrote:
>>>
>>>> The "Threads with Unread" display is similar to the "All" display, 
>>>> except it only displays those threads with the green arrow over the 
>>>> thread symbol. Contrast this with the "Unread" display, which only 
>>>> (initially) displays unread messages; this view can be threaded 
>>>> although personally I find it hard to follow like that so I only use 
>>>> it as a flat view.
>>>>
>>>> Note that an underlined collapsed thread header indicates that 
>>>> although the initial message is read there are (now) unread child 
>>>> messages.
>>>
>>> http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6508/unreadte3.gif Well, here's 
>>> another screen shot with old read threads still showing. I expected 
>>> those old threads to be gone. I also checked other newsgroups, and 
>>> they were gone (correct).
>>
>> So the threads are showing as unread (green arrow on the thread symbol 
>> - unfortunately your screenshot of the menu obscures this) but the 
>> actual messages are all read? I think I've heard of this problem 
>> before, but I can't remember what the cure might be... try mark all 
>> read, or select all, mark read.
> 
> Oops, I forgot to screen capture that column. They did not have green 
> down arrows and yet these read threads still show up when I asked for 
> unread. :(
> 
> I can't seem to reproduce this at work. Odd. Is there anywhere else that 
> Mozilla keeps newsgroup datas?


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Gerry
12/11/2006 8:51:28 PM
Yup, I had that setting set up that you mentioned. Also, I did mess with 
my MSF and DAT files as noted earlier. Even the .rc files. I didn't care 
if I lost my markings, unsubscribe, resubscribe, redownload, etc.

I will recheck the account settings again later. I do recall having to 
compact 100 KB and stuff. Maybe I will screen capture them. Actually, is 
there a text file that contains my newsgroup settings?


On 12/11/2006 12:51 PM PT, Gerry Hickman wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The way I have it set up is to "View:Messages:All", then 
> "View:Threads:Unread". You should then find after you've finished 
> reading messages (and marking them as read) that NEXT time you go back 
> to the newsgroup, you will NOT see messages you marked as read the 
> previous day.
> 
> Obviously, while you're in the same news reading session you will be 
> able to see read messages in the listing, but not in bold.
> 
> This is assuming all newsgroup "account settings" are on default; 
> there's quite a few settings you can change in the "account settings" 
> that could cause all kinds of problems relating to what's expired. If 
> you've had Mozilla for a long time, you may also have a corrupt MSF file.
> 
> There's an annoying and unnecessary bug in Mozilla that means MSF files 
> are NOT deleted when you unsubscribe/resubscribe from a newsgroup.
> 
> If you know what you're doing, you can exit Mozilla and zap these MSF 
> files (or zap all news stuff if you want and then reconfigure). Zapping 
> the MSF files will reset all the read/unread data.
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Phillip
12/12/2006 2:10:52 AM
On 12/11/2006 6:10 PM PT, Phillip Pi wrote:

> Yup, I had that setting set up that you mentioned. Also, I did mess with 
> my MSF and DAT files as noted earlier. Even the .rc files. I didn't care 
> if I lost my markings, unsubscribe, resubscribe, redownload, etc.
> 
> I will recheck the account settings again later. I do recall having to 
> compact 100 KB and stuff. Maybe I will screen capture them. Actually, is 
> there a text file that contains my newsgroup settings?
> 
> 
> On 12/11/2006 12:51 PM PT, Gerry Hickman wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> The way I have it set up is to "View:Messages:All", then 
>> "View:Threads:Unread". You should then find after you've finished 
>> reading messages (and marking them as read) that NEXT time you go back 
>> to the newsgroup, you will NOT see messages you marked as read the 
>> previous day.
>>
>> Obviously, while you're in the same news reading session you will be 
>> able to see read messages in the listing, but not in bold.
>>
>> This is assuming all newsgroup "account settings" are on default; 
>> there's quite a few settings you can change in the "account settings" 
>> that could cause all kinds of problems relating to what's expired. If 
>> you've had Mozilla for a long time, you may also have a corrupt MSF file.
>>
>> There's an annoying and unnecessary bug in Mozilla that means MSF 
>> files are NOT deleted when you unsubscribe/resubscribe from a newsgroup.
>>
>> If you know what you're doing, you can exit Mozilla and zap these MSF 
>> files (or zap all news stuff if you want and then reconfigure). 
>> Zapping the MSF files will reset all the read/unread data.

I compared settings with other news servers. They're the same (e.g., 2 
days to keep posts, etc.).
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Ant
12/12/2006 5:10:43 AM
Ant wrote:
> On 12/11/2006 6:10 PM PT, Phillip Pi wrote:
> 
/snip/
> 
> I compared settings with other news servers. They're the same (e.g., 2 
> days to keep posts, etc.).

Ant, next time you post a user question, could you not crosspost to the 
developers group?

Cross post snipped.

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Leonidas
12/12/2006 5:21:35 AM
Hi Phillip,

> Yup, I had that setting set up that you mentioned. Also, I did mess with 
> my MSF and DAT files as noted earlier. Even the .rc files. I didn't care 
> if I lost my markings, unsubscribe, resubscribe, redownload, etc.
> 
> I will recheck the account settings again later. I do recall having to 
> compact 100 KB and stuff. Maybe I will screen capture them. Actually, is 
> there a text file that contains my newsgroup settings?

Are you saying that with these settings we just discussed, that after 
you exit Mozilla, then re-open, and go back to a newsgroup, that you are 
seeing a bunch of read messages - messages not in bold?

If so, that seems odd...

Can you try deleting newsgroup accounts, close Mozilla, cleaning 
everything (as discussed above), then open Mozilla, re-create the 
account, re-subscribe to the NG, mark some as read, make sure you're on 
"Threads with Unread", then exit, then go in...

What now?

(It sounds like you already tried most/all of this)

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Gerry
12/12/2006 7:30:06 PM
On 12/12/2006 11:30 AM PT, Gerry Hickman wrote:

> Hi Phillip,
> 
>> Yup, I had that setting set up that you mentioned. Also, I did mess 
>> with my MSF and DAT files as noted earlier. Even the .rc files. I 
>> didn't care if I lost my markings, unsubscribe, resubscribe, 
>> redownload, etc.
>>
>> I will recheck the account settings again later. I do recall having to 
>> compact 100 KB and stuff. Maybe I will screen capture them. Actually, 
>> is there a text file that contains my newsgroup settings?
> 
> Are you saying that with these settings we just discussed, that after 
> you exit Mozilla, then re-open, and go back to a newsgroup, that you are 
> seeing a bunch of read messages - messages not in bold?
> 
> If so, that seems odd...

Yep.


> Can you try deleting newsgroup accounts, close Mozilla, cleaning 
> everything (as discussed above), then open Mozilla, re-create the 
> account, re-subscribe to the NG, mark some as read, make sure you're on 
> "Threads with Unread", then exit, then go in...
> 
> What now?
> 
> (It sounds like you already tried most/all of this)

I haven't tried actually deleting the accounts. Only unsubscribed, 
resubscribed, tweaking the files (.msf, .dat, and .rc), settings, etc. I 
will try that later. :)
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12/13/2006 5:10:44 AM
Ant wrote:
> On 12/12/2006 11:30 AM PT, Gerry Hickman wrote:
> 
>> Hi Phillip,
>>
>>> Yup, I had that setting set up that you mentioned. Also, I did mess 
>>> with my MSF and DAT files as noted earlier. Even the .rc files. I 
>>> didn't care if I lost my markings, unsubscribe, resubscribe, 
>>> redownload, etc.
>>>
>>> I will recheck the account settings again later. I do recall having 
>>> to compact 100 KB and stuff. Maybe I will screen capture them. 
>>> Actually, is there a text file that contains my newsgroup settings?
>>
>> Are you saying that with these settings we just discussed, that after 
>> you exit Mozilla, then re-open, and go back to a newsgroup, that you 
>> are seeing a bunch of read messages - messages not in bold?
>>
>> If so, that seems odd...
> 
> Yep.
> 
> 
>> Can you try deleting newsgroup accounts, close Mozilla, cleaning 
>> everything (as discussed above), then open Mozilla, re-create the 
>> account, re-subscribe to the NG, mark some as read, make sure you're 
>> on "Threads with Unread", then exit, then go in...
>>
>> What now?
>>
>> (It sounds like you already tried most/all of this)
> 
> I haven't tried actually deleting the accounts. Only unsubscribed, 
> resubscribed, tweaking the files (.msf, .dat, and .rc), settings, etc. I 
> will try that later. :)

If I were you I would move to ie7 your picking up more bugs than the 
exterminators.
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Richard
12/13/2006 4:27:53 PM
On 12/13/2006 8:27 AM PT, Richard wrote:

>>>> Yup, I had that setting set up that you mentioned. Also, I did mess 
>>>> with my MSF and DAT files as noted earlier. Even the .rc files. I 
>>>> didn't care if I lost my markings, unsubscribe, resubscribe, 
>>>> redownload, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I will recheck the account settings again later. I do recall having 
>>>> to compact 100 KB and stuff. Maybe I will screen capture them. 
>>>> Actually, is there a text file that contains my newsgroup settings?
>>>
>>> Are you saying that with these settings we just discussed, that after 
>>> you exit Mozilla, then re-open, and go back to a newsgroup, that you 
>>> are seeing a bunch of read messages - messages not in bold?
>>>
>>> If so, that seems odd...
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>>
>>> Can you try deleting newsgroup accounts, close Mozilla, cleaning 
>>> everything (as discussed above), then open Mozilla, re-create the 
>>> account, re-subscribe to the NG, mark some as read, make sure you're 
>>> on "Threads with Unread", then exit, then go in...
>>>
>>> What now?
>>>
>>> (It sounds like you already tried most/all of this)
>>
>> I haven't tried actually deleting the accounts. Only unsubscribed, 
>> resubscribed, tweaking the files (.msf, .dat, and .rc), settings, etc. 
>> I will try that later. :)
> 
> If I were you I would move to ie7 your picking up more bugs than the 
> exterminators.

But IE sucks and doesn't work in Linux. If MS paid me to find their 
bugs, then fine.
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12/14/2006 5:51:02 AM
Ant wrote:
> On 12/13/2006 8:27 AM PT, Richard wrote:
> 
>>>>> Yup, I had that setting set up that you mentioned. Also, I did mess 
>>>>> with my MSF and DAT files as noted earlier. Even the .rc files. I 
>>>>> didn't care if I lost my markings, unsubscribe, resubscribe, 
>>>>> redownload, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will recheck the account settings again later. I do recall having 
>>>>> to compact 100 KB and stuff. Maybe I will screen capture them. 
>>>>> Actually, is there a text file that contains my newsgroup settings?
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying that with these settings we just discussed, that 
>>>> after you exit Mozilla, then re-open, and go back to a newsgroup, 
>>>> that you are seeing a bunch of read messages - messages not in bold?
>>>>
>>>> If so, that seems odd...
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can you try deleting newsgroup accounts, close Mozilla, cleaning 
>>>> everything (as discussed above), then open Mozilla, re-create the 
>>>> account, re-subscribe to the NG, mark some as read, make sure you're 
>>>> on "Threads with Unread", then exit, then go in...
>>>>
>>>> What now?
>>>>
>>>> (It sounds like you already tried most/all of this)
>>>
>>> I haven't tried actually deleting the accounts. Only unsubscribed, 
>>> resubscribed, tweaking the files (.msf, .dat, and .rc), settings, 
>>> etc. I will try that later. :)
>>
>> If I were you I would move to ie7 your picking up more bugs than the 
>> exterminators.
> 
> But IE sucks and doesn't work in Linux. If MS paid me to find their 
> bugs, then fine.

Does Mozilla pay you ? there is always Opera ?.
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Richard
12/14/2006 3:43:04 PM
On 12/14/2006 7:43 AM PT, Richard wrote:

> Ant wrote:
>> On 12/13/2006 8:27 AM PT, Richard wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Yup, I had that setting set up that you mentioned. Also, I did 
>>>>>> mess with my MSF and DAT files as noted earlier. Even the .rc 
>>>>>> files. I didn't care if I lost my markings, unsubscribe, 
>>>>>> resubscribe, redownload, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will recheck the account settings again later. I do recall 
>>>>>> having to compact 100 KB and stuff. Maybe I will screen capture 
>>>>>> them. Actually, is there a text file that contains my newsgroup 
>>>>>> settings?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you saying that with these settings we just discussed, that 
>>>>> after you exit Mozilla, then re-open, and go back to a newsgroup, 
>>>>> that you are seeing a bunch of read messages - messages not in bold?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, that seems odd...
>>>>
>>>> Yep.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Can you try deleting newsgroup accounts, close Mozilla, cleaning 
>>>>> everything (as discussed above), then open Mozilla, re-create the 
>>>>> account, re-subscribe to the NG, mark some as read, make sure 
>>>>> you're on "Threads with Unread", then exit, then go in...
>>>>>
>>>>> What now?
>>>>>
>>>>> (It sounds like you already tried most/all of this)
>>>>
>>>> I haven't tried actually deleting the accounts. Only unsubscribed, 
>>>> resubscribed, tweaking the files (.msf, .dat, and .rc), settings, 
>>>> etc. I will try that later. :)
>>>
>>> If I were you I would move to ie7 your picking up more bugs than the 
>>> exterminators.
>>
>> But IE sucks and doesn't work in Linux. If MS paid me to find their 
>> bugs, then fine.
> 
> Does Mozilla pay you ? there is always Opera ?.

Mozilla = open source. I don't like Opera. I only used it for testing, 
that's it.
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12/14/2006 3:54:55 PM
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