Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its email 
client!

I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client since 1994 
and wont stop.

Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM, it 
opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow it to be 
changed.

I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is BULL!

-- 
Jane Galt

"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means 
of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by 
force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and 
suicide." -- Ayn Rand
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On or about 4/14/2010 8:21 PM, Jane Galt hatte gesagt:
> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its email 
> client!
> 
> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client since 1994 
> and wont stop.
> 
> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM, it 
> opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow it to be 
> changed.
> 
> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is BULL!
> 

If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html


-- 
Ed

Will power cannot be furnished by anyone but you.
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BeeNeR
4/15/2010 1:12:16 AM
BeeNeR <w3bnr@verizon.net>  wrote :

> On or about 4/14/2010 8:21 PM, Jane Galt hatte gesagt:
>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>> email client!
>> 
>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>> since 1994 and wont stop.
>> 
>> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM,
>> it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow
>> it to be changed.
>> 
>> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
>> BULL! 
>> 
> 
> If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox:
> 
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html
> 
> 

Why does SM have to prevent any other email program from working with email 
links?


-- 
Jane Galt

"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means 
of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by 
force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and 
suicide." -- Ayn Rand
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Jane
4/15/2010 3:52:25 AM
Jane Galt <Jane_G@gulch.xyz>  wrote :

> BeeNeR <w3bnr@verizon.net>  wrote :

>> If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox:
>> 
>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html
>> 

I run into the same mess all over again.

I just installed and started FF. Tried to import my SM profile, it doesnt 
show up, says:

If Netscape 6, 7 or Mozilla 1.x is not listed, SeaMonkey is not installed


News to me, since SM is installed and has all my passwords, bookmarks etc in 
it.



-- 
Jane Galt

"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means 
of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by 
force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and 
suicide." -- Ayn Rand
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Jane
4/15/2010 4:08:14 AM
On or about 4/14/2010 11:52 PM, Jane Galt hatte gesagt:
> BeeNeR <w3bnr@verizon.net>  wrote :
> 
>> On or about 4/14/2010 8:21 PM, Jane Galt hatte gesagt:
>>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>>> email client!
>>>
>>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>>> since 1994 and wont stop.
>>>
>>> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM,
>>> it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow
>>> it to be changed.
>>>
>>> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
>>> BULL! 
>>>
>>
>> If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox:
>>
>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html
>>
>>
> 
> Why does SM have to prevent any other email program from working with email 
> links?
> 
> 

Try going to START / SETTINGS / CONTROL PANEL / INTERNET PROPERTIES / PROGRAMS
and in that screen change the E-Mail setting from SeaMonkey to XNews (at least
if you're running Windows)

-- 
Ed

"A man can be happy with any woman, as long as he does not love her."
                                             -Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
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BeeNeR
4/15/2010 10:12:36 AM
On or about 4/15/2010 12:08 AM, Jane Galt hatte gesagt:
> Jane Galt <Jane_G@gulch.xyz>  wrote :
> 
>> BeeNeR <w3bnr@verizon.net>  wrote :
> 
>>> If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox:
>>>
>>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html
>>>
> 
> I run into the same mess all over again.
> 
> I just installed and started FF. Tried to import my SM profile, it doesnt 
> show up, says:
> 
> If Netscape 6, 7 or Mozilla 1.x is not listed, SeaMonkey is not installed
> 
> 
> News to me, since SM is installed and has all my passwords, bookmarks etc in 
> it.
> 
> 
> 

Don't know.  Never used FF.  Try the FF news groups for an answer if no one
helps you here.

-- 
Ed

"A man can be happy with any woman, as long as he does not love her."
                                             -Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
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BeeNeR
4/15/2010 10:13:49 AM
Jane Galt wrote:
> Jane Galt<Jane_G@gulch.xyz>   wrote :
>
>> BeeNeR<w3bnr@verizon.net>   wrote :
>
>>> If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox:
>>>
>>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html
>>>
>
> I run into the same mess all over again.
>
> I just installed and started FF. Tried to import my SM profile, it doesnt
> show up, says:
>
> If Netscape 6, 7 or Mozilla 1.x is not listed, SeaMonkey is not installed
>
>
> News to me, since SM is installed and has all my passwords, bookmarks etc in
> it.
>
>
>

Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same 
format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just 
open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar) 
and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.

Might help!!

Daniel

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Daniel
4/15/2010 11:54:07 AM
Jane Galt wrote:

> User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25
> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100414-1, 04/14/2010), Outbound message
> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> 
> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
> email client!

Perhaps your unnecessary scanning of Outbound (and likely Inbound)
mail/news is causing your problem. Choice of email client may be tied up
in the proxy settings of your a-v program. Leave Avast! running in
real-time mode, but disable the Inbound/Outbound scanners.
http://tekrider.net/general/misctips.php#avinout

> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
> since 1994 and wont stop. 

Begs the question:  why are you using the SeaMonkey suite if all you
want is the browser?

> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in
> SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont
> allow it to be changed. 
> 
> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
> BULL!

Not really. You chose to use the suite.

-- 
   -bts
   -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul
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Beauregard
4/15/2010 1:04:26 PM
Interviewed by CNN on 14/4/2010 21:21, Jane Galt told the world:
> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its email 
> client!
> 
> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client since 1994 
> and wont stop.
> 
> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM, it 
> opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow it to be 
> changed.
> 
> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is BULL!

OK, I'll try to answer this in a civil manner...

First, yes, Seamonkey does assume that you are going to use its
integrated e-mail client, instead of checking what is the "default
e-mail client" in the Windows settings. Since the main point of using
Seamonkey instead of Firefox is exactly the e-mail integration, this is
not an unreasonable assumption.

However there are a few people who prefer the Seamonkey browser to
Firefox but intend to use other mail clients. There is a way to change
the Seamonkey behavior, although it's a hidden option. You can find the
instructions here:

http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto

Now, I gather that you tried changing to Firefox and ran into problems,
because Firefox couldn't detect your existing installation of Seamonkey.
Since you claim to be using SM 2.0.x, I think it's likely that the
Firefox guys haven't updated yet their import tool to account for the
changes in SM 2. There should be a bug open for it...

Bookmarks are easy to bring from SM to FF -- it's just a matter of
copying one file, bookmarks.html, from the Seamonkey profile to the
Firefox profile -- but things like passwords are more complicated.
There's an extension that solves it. It's called Password Exporter. You
can get the modified-for-Seamonkey version in Philip Chee's site:

http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#passwordexporter

I don't know if you need it to import the passwords back to Firefox, but
if so, you can get the official Password Exporter for Firefox here:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2848

-- 
MCBastos

This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized
use will be prosecuted under the DMCA.

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Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla
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MCBastos
4/15/2010 2:19:07 PM
Daniel wrote:
> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Jane Galt<Jane_G@gulch.xyz> wrote :
>>
>>> BeeNeR<w3bnr@verizon.net> wrote :
>>
>>>> If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html
>>>>
>>
>> I run into the same mess all over again.
>>
>> I just installed and started FF. Tried to import my SM profile, it doesnt
>> show up, says:
>>
>> If Netscape 6, 7 or Mozilla 1.x is not listed, SeaMonkey is not installed
>>
>>
>> News to me, since SM is installed and has all my passwords, bookmarks
>> etc in
>> it.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same
> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just
> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar)
> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>
Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
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Ray_Net
4/15/2010 2:27:05 PM
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
> Daniel wrote:

>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same
>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just
>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar)
>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>
> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?

Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in
Firefox?

Phil

-- 
Philip Chee <philip@aleytys.pc.my>, <philip.chee@gmail.com>
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org
Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief,
oh Night, and so be good for us to pass.

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Philip
4/15/2010 2:58:14 PM
Philip Chee wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>
>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same
>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just
>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar)
>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>
>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>
> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in
> Firefox?
>
I have used the same word ..but they certainly speaked about bookmark ? 
! isn't it
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Ray_Net
4/15/2010 8:41:17 PM
Philip Chee wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>
>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same
>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just
>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar)
>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>
>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>
> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in
> Firefox?
>
> Phil
>
Firefox has bookmarks.
Thunderbird has addresses
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Mike
4/15/2010 9:38:15 PM
Philip Chee wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>
>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same
>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just
>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar)
>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>
>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>
> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in
> Firefox?
>
> Phil
>
Actually I think he intended to say ThunderBird ;-)

-- 
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.    "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net           http://www.vpea.org
mailto:pjones1@kimbanet.com
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Phillip
4/16/2010 1:02:38 AM
Philip Chee wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>
>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same
>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just
>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar)
>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>
>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>
> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in
> Firefox?
>
> Phil
>

Phillip, What do you look for in "BookMarks"?? Might I suggest that you 
look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term "Address Book" is 
not to far off the mark.

Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have "Bookmarks" changed to "Address 
Book"?? To me, "bookmarks" are placed in things, they are not THE thing 
themselves.

Daniel
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Daniel
4/16/2010 11:54:40 AM
Daniel wrote:
> Philip Chee wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>
>>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same
>>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just
>>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar)
>>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>>
>>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>>
>> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in
>> Firefox?
>>
>> Phil
>>
>
> Phillip, What do you look for in "BookMarks"?? Might I suggest that you
> look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term "Address Book" is
> not to far off the mark.
>
> Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have "Bookmarks" changed to "Address
> Book"?? To me, "bookmarks" are placed in things, they are not THE thing
> themselves.
>
> Daniel

Sorry, should be Philip, with on "l"

Daniel
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Daniel
4/16/2010 12:20:03 PM
Daniel wrote:
> Philip Chee wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>
>>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same
>>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just
>>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar)
>>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>>
>>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>>
>> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in
>> Firefox?
>>
>> Phil
>>
>
> Phillip, What do you look for in "BookMarks"?? Might I suggest that you
> look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term "Address Book" is
> not to far off the mark.
>
> Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have "Bookmarks" changed to "Address
> Book"?? To me, "bookmarks" are placed in things, they are not THE thing
> themselves.
>
> Daniel
??

*Address books are exactly that*: email address, Name. nickname and if 
desired physical address, city, state, Zip/postal code, Phone, cell 
number, and a check market if the will accept HTML mail or not and 
whether you trust them to send remote content.

Bookmarks are to be thought of.... well bookmarks place to go, say in a 
book, a location if you will. a URL is a Location on the web for a website.

Another way to look at say you have a Book or long document typed in 
Word or converted to a PDF in that document is a Table of Contents (TOC) 
the table of contents if set up properly use each item in the TOC  as a 
Bookmark to go to a specific location in the document. In this 
illustration you don't go to an addressbook you click a Bookmark to go 
to specific  location.

-- 
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.    "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net           http://www.vpea.org
mailto:pjones1@kimbanet.com
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Phillip
4/16/2010 1:25:57 PM
Jane Galt wrote:
> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
> email client!
>
> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
> since 1994 and wont stop.
>
> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in
> SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont
> allow it to be changed.
>
> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
> BULL!

I use Seamonkey 2 the same way you do (on Win2000) and have the same
problem, only my default email is Thunderbird. I think it's basically a
Seamonkey problem and unless the developers choose to proactively correct
it, you are stuck with the situation. The one thing I do as an ersatz fix is
to have Thunderbird open. If the default email program is open, then SM will
invoke it. Hardly satisfactory, better than nothing.


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Roger
4/16/2010 7:59:11 PM
Roger Fink wrote:
> Jane Galt wrote:
>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>> email client!
>>
>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>> since 1994 and wont stop.
>>
>> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in
>> SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont
>> allow it to be changed.
>>
>> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
>> BULL!
>
> I use Seamonkey 2 the same way you do (on Win2000) and have the same
> problem, only my default email is Thunderbird. I think it's basically a
> Seamonkey problem and unless the developers choose to proactively correct
> it, you are stuck with the situation. The one thing I do as an ersatz fix is
> to have Thunderbird open. If the default email program is open, then SM will
> invoke it. Hardly satisfactory, better than nothing.
>
>

Have you folks noticed the the OP has NOT been back in this thread since 
the initial few messages?

Why keep beating a dead horse for a troll?
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Frosted
4/16/2010 9:08:52 PM
Frosted Flake wrote:
> Roger Fink wrote:
>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>>> email client!
>>>
>>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>>> since 1994 and wont stop.
>>>
>>> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in
>>> SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont
>>> allow it to be changed.
>>>
>>> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
>>> BULL!
>>
>> I use Seamonkey 2 the same way you do (on Win2000) and have the same
>> problem, only my default email is Thunderbird. I think it's
>> basically a Seamonkey problem and unless the developers choose to
>> proactively correct it, you are stuck with the situation. The one
>> thing I do as an ersatz fix is to have Thunderbird open. If the
>> default email program is open, then SM will invoke it. Hardly
>> satisfactory, better than nothing.
>>
>>
>
> Have you folks noticed the the OP has NOT been back in this thread
> since the initial few messages?
>
> Why keep beating a dead horse for a troll?

Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic.


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Roger
4/16/2010 9:23:48 PM
Roger Fink a écrit :
>
> Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic.
>
>

It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to use a 
suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead.

S.
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S
4/16/2010 9:26:19 PM
S. Beaulieu wrote:
> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>
>> Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic.
>>
>>
>
> It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to
> use a suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead.
>
> S.

It wasn't an problem in 1.x, and as I said the developers may choose to
address it or not. My opinion is that if they only want the program to be
used in a certain way, then they should really get coercive about it and
make mail implementation a precondition of getting the browser to launch.


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Roger
4/16/2010 9:56:12 PM
Roger Fink a écrit :
> It wasn't an problem in 1.x, and as I said the developers may choose to
> address it or not. My opinion is that if they only want the program to be
> used in a certain way, then they should really get coercive about it and
> make mail implementation a precondition of getting the browser to launch.
>
>

Well, obviously, some people already see the current model as being 
coercitive, so I don't think making things harder would make them any 
better. People *can* use another mail application if they want to. There 
just really is no point in using SM in that case, though. Or, rather, 
when one uses SM, there is little reason to make it a point to use 
another mail client. After all, it makes things more unweildy and, if 
both are running at the same time, uses way more memory than SM would.

S.
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S
4/16/2010 10:10:35 PM
Daniel <dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au>  wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Jane Galt<Jane_G@gulch.xyz>   wrote :
>>
>>> BeeNeR<w3bnr@verizon.net>   wrote :
>>
>>>> If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html
>>>>
>>
>> I run into the same mess all over again.
>>
>> I just installed and started FF. Tried to import my SM profile, it
>> doesnt show up, says:
>>
>> If Netscape 6, 7 or Mozilla 1.x is not listed, SeaMonkey is not
>> installed 
>>
>>
>> News to me, since SM is installed and has all my passwords, bookmarks
>> etc in it.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same 
> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just 
> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar) 
> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
> 
> Might help!!
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 

Address  book? 

-- 
Jane Galt

"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the 
means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men 
by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder 
and suicide." -- Ayn Rand
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Jane
4/16/2010 11:40:23 PM
BeeNeR <w3bnr@verizon.net>  wrote :

> On or about 4/14/2010 11:52 PM, Jane Galt hatte gesagt:
>> BeeNeR <w3bnr@verizon.net>  wrote :
>> 
>>> On or about 4/14/2010 8:21 PM, Jane Galt hatte gesagt:
>>>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>>>> email client!
>>>>
>>>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>>>> since 1994 and wont stop.
>>>>
>>>> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in
>>>> SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont
>>>> allow it to be changed.
>>>>
>>>> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
>>>> BULL! 
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox:
>>>
>>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> Why does SM have to prevent any other email program from working with
>> email links?
>> 
>> 
> 
> Try going to START / SETTINGS / CONTROL PANEL / INTERNET PROPERTIES /
> PROGRAMS and in that screen change the E-Mail setting from SeaMonkey to
> XNews (at least if you're running Windows)
> 

What?? I'm running Windows 7.

-- 
Jane Galt

"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the 
means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men 
by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder 
and suicide." -- Ayn Rand
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Jane
4/17/2010 1:01:47 AM
"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid>  wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
> 
>> User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25
>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100414-1, 04/14/2010), Outbound message
>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>> 
>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>> email client!
> 
> Perhaps your unnecessary scanning of Outbound (and likely Inbound)
> mail/news is causing your problem. Choice of email client may be tied up
> in the proxy settings of your a-v program. Leave Avast! running in
> real-time mode, but disable the Inbound/Outbound scanners.
> http://tekrider.net/general/misctips.php#avinout

I'm not even talking about that. I keep setting Pegasus Mail as my system 
email client, but SM wont go to it when I click email links on web pages, 
it will only open its own email client. How do I stop that and get it to 
recognize Pegasus as my only email client?

And I've already tried the about:config suggestion and it wont work.
 
>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>> since 1994 and wont stop. 
> 
> Begs the question:  why are you using the SeaMonkey suite if all you
> want is the browser?
>

I've always liked the Netscape Communicator browser style instead of 
Internet Explorer. 
 




-- 
Jane Galt

"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the 
means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men 
by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder 
and suicide." -- Ayn Rand
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Jane
4/17/2010 1:05:16 AM
MCBastos <myemail@example.invalid>  wrote :

> Interviewed by CNN on 14/4/2010 21:21, Jane Galt told the world:
>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>> email client!
>> 
>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>> since 1994 and wont stop.
>> 
>> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM,
>> it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow
>> it to be changed.
>> 
>> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
>> BULL! 
> 
> OK, I'll try to answer this in a civil manner...
> 
> First, yes, Seamonkey does assume that you are going to use its
> integrated e-mail client, instead of checking what is the "default
> e-mail client" in the Windows settings. Since the main point of using
> Seamonkey instead of Firefox is exactly the e-mail integration, this is
> not an unreasonable assumption.
> 
> However there are a few people who prefer the Seamonkey browser to
> Firefox but intend to use other mail clients. There is a way to change
> the Seamonkey behavior, although it's a hidden option. You can find the
> instructions here:
> 
> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto

Tried that, several suggestions ago, doesnt work.
 
> Now, I gather that you tried changing to Firefox and ran into problems,
> because Firefox couldn't detect your existing installation of Seamonkey.

Not to mention that all my bookmarks and passwords have been stored in SM.

In fact I just migrated to Win 7 from XP and finally got that mess all 
fixed.

Firefox is nice, and all that, but just another major hassle trying to get 
my profile, passwords etc. all moved, especially since it wont even 
recognize the SM install on this computer.

> Since you claim to be using SM 2.0.x, I think it's likely that the
> Firefox guys haven't updated yet their import tool to account for the
> changes in SM 2. There should be a bug open for it...
> 
> Bookmarks are easy to bring from SM to FF -- it's just a matter of
> copying one file, bookmarks.html, from the Seamonkey profile to the
> Firefox profile -- but things like passwords are more complicated.
> There's an extension that solves it. It's called Password Exporter. You
> can get the modified-for-Seamonkey version in Philip Chee's site:
> 
> http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#passwordexporter
> 
> I don't know if you need it to import the passwords back to Firefox, but
> if so, you can get the official Password Exporter for Firefox here:
> 
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2848

Thanks.


-- 
Jane Galt

"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the 
means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men 
by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder 
and suicide." -- Ayn Rand
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Jane
4/17/2010 1:09:09 AM
MCBastos <myemail@example.invalid>  wrote :


> Bookmarks are easy to bring from SM to FF -- it's just a matter of
> copying one file, bookmarks.html, from the Seamonkey profile to the
> Firefox profile 

Ok, admittedly I'm totally new to FF. I just copied the bookmarks file over, 
but dont even see a menu to pull down my bookmarks in FF. 



-- 
Jane Galt

"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means 
of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by 
force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and 
suicide." -- Ayn Rand
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Jane
4/17/2010 1:16:14 AM
Jane Galt <Jane_G@gulch.xyz>  wrote :

> MCBastos <myemail@example.invalid>  wrote :
> 
> 
>> Bookmarks are easy to bring from SM to FF -- it's just a matter of
>> copying one file, bookmarks.html, from the Seamonkey profile to the
>> Firefox profile 
> 
> Ok, admittedly I'm totally new to FF. I just copied the bookmarks file
> over, but dont even see a menu to pull down my bookmarks in FF. 
> 
> 
> 

Never mind this,  I found out how to import them from a html file using the 
bookmarks import. FF will just take some getting used to.

-- 
Jane Galt

"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means 
of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by 
force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and 
suicide." -- Ayn Rand
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Jane
4/17/2010 1:26:34 AM
Everybody's in this thinking rut when it comes to which browser to use. If 
you dont want email, you gotta use FF. 

Well I'm 60 years old and have liked netscape's browser look and feel since I 
first got on the net and started using Navigator in 1994. I've TRIED to stick 
with that, and always HATED Internet Explorer.

So here we are and I prefer the browser look and feel of SM now, NOT FF. So 
why cant we get SM to give up its hassles with email mailto links?

It's not hard, come on guys.



-- 
Jane Galt

"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means 
of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by 
force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and 
suicide." -- Ayn Rand
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Jane
4/17/2010 1:55:54 AM
"Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org>  wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>> email client!
>>
>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>> since 1994 and wont stop.
>>
>> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in
>> SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont
>> allow it to be changed.
>>
>> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
>> BULL!
> 
> I use Seamonkey 2 the same way you do (on Win2000) and have the same
> problem, only my default email is Thunderbird. I think it's basically a
> Seamonkey problem and unless the developers choose to proactively
> correct it, you are stuck with the situation. The one thing I do as an
> ersatz fix is to have Thunderbird open. If the default email program is
> open, then SM will invoke it. Hardly satisfactory, better than nothing.
> 
> 
> 

Doesnt work with Pegasus Mail. I have Pegasus set to be my system defaul 
emailer, even went as suggested, and did about:config and made the changes 
there, and SM STILL wont let it be used for mailto links.

I just downloaded and tried it in FF and it DOES go to Pegasus for mailto 
links, so YES this is a SM only problem and seems unfixable unless the 
developers get it fixed.


-- 
Jane Galt

"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the 
means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men 
by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder 
and suicide." -- Ayn Rand
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Jane
4/17/2010 1:58:23 AM
Frosted Flake <email@is.invalid>  wrote :

> Roger Fink wrote:
>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>>> email client!
>>>
>>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>>> since 1994 and wont stop.
>>>
>>> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in
>>> SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont
>>> allow it to be changed.
>>>
>>> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
>>> BULL!
>>
>> I use Seamonkey 2 the same way you do (on Win2000) and have the same
>> problem, only my default email is Thunderbird. I think it's basically a
>> Seamonkey problem and unless the developers choose to proactively
>> correct it, you are stuck with the situation. The one thing I do as an
>> ersatz fix is to have Thunderbird open. If the default email program is
>> open, then SM will invoke it. Hardly satisfactory, better than nothing.
>>
>>
> 
> Have you folks noticed the the OP has NOT been back in this thread since
> the initial few messages?
> 
> Why keep beating a dead horse for a troll?
> 

Kiss my ass. Unlike you, I'm not sitting full time in my mommy's basement 
in my underpants, typing flames, I work and dont always have time to jump 
in here, but WILL get back.


-- 
Jane Galt


Property Rights

The right to life is the source of all rights�and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness �Man�s Rights,� The Virtue of 
Selfishness, 94.
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Jane
4/17/2010 2:01:17 AM
"S. Beaulieu" <sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net>  wrote :

> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>
>> Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic.
>>
>>
> 
> It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to use a 
> suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead.
> 
> S.
> 

Great, I like the look and feel of the SM browser, why cant I get the 
standalone anymore?

-- 
Jane Galt


Property Rights

The right to life is the source of all rights�and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee that 
a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it if he 
earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of material 
values.

- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness �Man�s Rights,� The Virtue of 
Selfishness, 94.
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Jane
4/17/2010 2:02:07 AM
Jane Galt wrote:
> Everybody's in this thinking rut when it comes to which browser to use. If 
> you dont want email, you gotta use FF. 
> 
> Well I'm 60 years old and have liked netscape's browser look and feel since I 
> first got on the net and started using Navigator in 1994. I've TRIED to stick 
> with that, and always HATED Internet Explorer.
> 
> So here we are and I prefer the browser look and feel of SM now, NOT FF. So 
> why cant we get SM to give up its hassles with email mailto links?
> 
> It's not hard, come on guys.
> 
> 
> 

....a very simple fix would be to let SM use the system default e-mail 
client if a SM Mail/News window were not previously opened.

Personally, I'd make that a user Pref setting - current behavior, or as 
above, set by user Preference for e-mail handling.

Just a suggestion...

-- 
      - Rufus
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Rufus
4/17/2010 2:03:08 AM
Jane Galt wrote:
> Everybody's in this thinking rut when it comes to which browser to
> use. If you dont want email, you gotta use FF.
>
> Well I'm 60 years old and have liked netscape's browser look and feel
> since I first got on the net and started using Navigator in 1994.
> I've TRIED to stick with that, and always HATED Internet Explorer.
>
> So here we are and I prefer the browser look and feel of SM now, NOT
> FF. So why cant we get SM to give up its hassles with email mailto
> links?
>
> It's not hard, come on guys.

She twirled Greenspan around her little finger and we're all living with the
result - you really ought to consider giving her up.


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Roger
4/17/2010 2:16:12 AM
"S. Beaulieu" <sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net>  wrote :

> Roger Fink a écrit :
>> It wasn't an problem in 1.x, and as I said the developers may choose to
>> address it or not. My opinion is that if they only want the program to 
be
>> used in a certain way, then they should really get coercive about it and
>> make mail implementation a precondition of getting the browser to 
launch.
>>
>>
> 
> Well, obviously, some people already see the current model as being 
> coercitive, so I don't think making things harder would make them any 
> better. People *can* use another mail application if they want to. There 
> just really is no point in using SM in that case, though.

Yes there IS, that's my point. I like the look & feel of the SM browser, 
not FF or Internet Explorer, but SM. 

Why do I have to throw out the baby with the bathwater and go to something 
else, JUST because of a programming problem where they wont let me use my 
own emailer?


-- 
Jane Galt


Property Rights

The right to life is the source of all rights�and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness �Man�s Rights,� The Virtue of 
Selfishness, 94.
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Jane
4/17/2010 2:21:49 AM
On 04/16/2010 06:01 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
....

> 
> What?? I'm running Windows 7.
> 

<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&complete=0&q=Setting+Pegasus+to+be+Default+Email+Client+%2Bwin+7&btnG=Search>

http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/14660-email-defaults.html

Don't know as I use linux, but the above might help?

Keep in mind that Win7 is a completely different beast than WinXP. I
only fire it up for testing, or when my spouse needs it for work issues.

You might also try:
http://www.pmail.com/support.htm
as it seems that pmail & Vista[1]/Win7 have some issues overall.

[1] found this as well:
http://community.pmail.com/forums/post/460.aspx

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NoOp
4/17/2010 3:04:32 AM
NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net.invalid>  wrote :

> On 04/16/2010 06:01 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
> ...
> 
>> 
>> What?? I'm running Windows 7.
>> 
> 
><http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&complete=0&q=Setting+Pegasus+to+be+Def
>ault+Email+Client+%2Bwin+7&btnG=Search> 
> 
> http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/14660-email-defaults.html
> 
> Don't know as I use linux, but the above might help?

Thanks but BTDT. Pegasus is set as the default emailer for my system. The 
ONLY program that wont work for, is SM. It even works for FF.

> 
> Keep in mind that Win7 is a completely different beast than WinXP.

And what a fine beast it is too. :)

I resisted for a long time, based on the Vista dread ( never used Vista ) 
but then some of the nice folks in 24 hour help told me not to worry. I 
LOVE Win 7 now! Very nice.

> You might also try:
> http://www.pmail.com/support.htm
> as it seems that pmail & Vista[1]/Win7 have some issues overall.
> 
> [1] found this as well:
> http://community.pmail.com/forums/post/460.aspx

Thanks.


-- 
Jane Galt


Property Rights

The right to life is the source of all rights�and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness �Man�s Rights,� The Virtue of 
Selfishness, 94.
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Jane
4/17/2010 3:29:59 AM
Jane Galt wrote:
> I just downloaded and tried it in FF and it DOES go to Pegasus for mailto
> links, so YES this is a SM only problem and seems unfixable unless the
> developers get it fixed.

Why don't you use FF and install the Netscape theme to make it look like 
Navigator?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4083
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Lou
4/17/2010 5:18:31 AM
On 10-04-16 5:08 PM, Frosted Flake wrote:
> Have you folks noticed the the OP has NOT been back in this thread since
> the initial few messages?
>
> Why keep beating a dead horse for a troll?

The replies to this post from Roger Fink and Jane Galt have been removed 
from the news server, because they contained personal attack.
See <http://www.mozilla.org/community/cancellation.html>.

-- 
Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca>
List-owner: support-firefox, support-thunderbird, test-multimedia
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Chris
4/17/2010 5:24:05 AM
Phillip Jones wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> Philip Chee wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same
>>>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it,
>>>>> just
>>>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar)
>>>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>>>
>>>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>>>
>>> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in
>>> Firefox?
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>
>> Phillip, What do you look for in "BookMarks"?? Might I suggest that you
>> look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term "Address Book" is
>> not to far off the mark.
>>
>> Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have "Bookmarks" changed to "Address
>> Book"?? To me, "bookmarks" are placed in things, they are not THE thing
>> themselves.
>>
>> Daniel
> ??
>
> *Address books are exactly that*: email address, Name. nickname and if
> desired physical address, city, state, Zip/postal code, Phone, cell
> number, and a check market if the will accept HTML mail or not and
> whether you trust them to send remote content.
>
> Bookmarks are to be thought of.... well bookmarks place to go, say in a
> book, a location if you will. a URL is a Location on the web for a website.
>
> Another way to look at say you have a Book or long document typed in
> Word or converted to a PDF in that document is a Table of Contents (TOC)
> the table of contents if set up properly use each item in the TOC as a
> Bookmark to go to a specific location in the document. In this
> illustration you don't go to an addressbook you click a Bookmark to go
> to specific location.
>
Yes, Phillip, but my point is that places to go have addresses (your 
home address, your Banks address, etc.) so www.mybankingplace.com is an 
address on the internet/web/whatever, so if you have to save several web 
addresses in a "book" it makes sense to call it an "addressbook", and 
that addressbook would contain several bookmarks, i.e. the bookmark is 
the web address contained in the addressbook.

This way makes sense to me!!

Daniel
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Daniel
4/17/2010 10:17:15 AM
Jane Galt wrote:
> "S. Beaulieu"<sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net>   wrote :
>
>> Roger Fink a écrit :

<snip>

> Why do I have to throw out the baby with the bathwater and go to something
> else, JUST because of a programming problem where they wont let me use my
> own emailer?
>
>

Because, Jane, the SeaMonkey developers want you to use their program, 
which they think is the best!!

Do General Motors allow/assist you to use a Ford "Trunk" with your GM 
chassis??

However, with a Motorbike you can get a little trailer-thingee to assist 
you doing something the motorbike is not, naturally, built for!!

Daniel
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Daniel
4/17/2010 10:35:20 AM
Daniel wrote:
> Phillip Jones wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Philip Chee wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same
>>>>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it,
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar)
>>>>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>>>>
>>>> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in
>>>> Firefox?
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>
>>> Phillip, What do you look for in "BookMarks"?? Might I suggest that you
>>> look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term "Address Book" is
>>> not to far off the mark.
>>>
>>> Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have "Bookmarks" changed to "Address
>>> Book"?? To me, "bookmarks" are placed in things, they are not THE thing
>>> themselves.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>> ??
>>
>> *Address books are exactly that*: email address, Name. nickname and if
>> desired physical address, city, state, Zip/postal code, Phone, cell
>> number, and a check market if the will accept HTML mail or not and
>> whether you trust them to send remote content.
>>
>> Bookmarks are to be thought of.... well bookmarks place to go, say in a
>> book, a location if you will. a URL is a Location on the web for a website.
>>
>> Another way to look at say you have a Book or long document typed in
>> Word or converted to a PDF in that document is a Table of Contents (TOC)
>> the table of contents if set up properly use each item in the TOC as a
>> Bookmark to go to a specific location in the document. In this
>> illustration you don't go to an addressbook you click a Bookmark to go
>> to specific location.
>>
> Yes, Phillip, but my point is that places to go have addresses (your
> home address, your Banks address, etc.) so www.mybankingplace.com is an
> address on the internet/web/whatever, so if you have to save several web
> addresses in a "book" it makes sense to call it an "addressbook", and
> that addressbook would contain several bookmarks, i.e. the bookmark is
> the web address contained in the addressbook.
>
> This way makes sense to me!!
>
> Daniel

In this Subject I agree with convention. But everyone has difference of 
opinion.
Just like I believe for support purposes Top posting and no snipping 
makes more sense to me, that my opinion. I've been trying to convince 
other of the logic of such, and it has done no good. So sometimes you 
have go with the flow even that logically and in your gut you know your 
way is better.
-- 
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.    "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net           http://www.vpea.org
mailto:pjones1@kimbanet.com
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Phillip
4/17/2010 12:28:32 PM
Daniel wrote:
> Phillip Jones wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Philip Chee wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same
>>>>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it,
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or
>>>>>> similar)
>>>>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>>>>
>>>> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in
>>>> Firefox?
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>
>>> Phillip, What do you look for in "BookMarks"?? Might I suggest that you
>>> look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term "Address Book" is
>>> not to far off the mark.
>>>
>>> Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have "Bookmarks" changed to "Address
>>> Book"?? To me, "bookmarks" are placed in things, they are not THE thing
>>> themselves.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>> ??
>>
>> *Address books are exactly that*: email address, Name. nickname and if
>> desired physical address, city, state, Zip/postal code, Phone, cell
>> number, and a check market if the will accept HTML mail or not and
>> whether you trust them to send remote content.
>>
>> Bookmarks are to be thought of.... well bookmarks place to go, say in a
>> book, a location if you will. a URL is a Location on the web for a
>> website.
>>
>> Another way to look at say you have a Book or long document typed in
>> Word or converted to a PDF in that document is a Table of Contents (TOC)
>> the table of contents if set up properly use each item in the TOC as a
>> Bookmark to go to a specific location in the document. In this
>> illustration you don't go to an addressbook you click a Bookmark to go
>> to specific location.
>>
> Yes, Phillip, but my point is that places to go have addresses (your
> home address, your Banks address, etc.) so www.mybankingplace.com is an
> address on the internet/web/whatever, so if you have to save several web
> addresses in a "book" it makes sense to call it an "addressbook", and
> that addressbook would contain several bookmarks, i.e. the bookmark is
> the web address contained in the addressbook.
>
> This way makes sense to me!!
>
Your way of sense is different that the majority.
An adress book is a book of adresses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_book
A Bookmark is a collection of URL(Uniform Resource Locator).
http://www.google.com/bookmarks/
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Ray_Net
4/17/2010 1:32:10 PM
Daniel wrote:
> Jane Galt wrote:
>> "S. Beaulieu"<sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net> wrote :
>>
>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>
> <snip>
>
>> Why do I have to throw out the baby with the bathwater and go to
>> something
>> else, JUST because of a programming problem where they wont let me use my
>> own emailer?
>>
>>
>
> Because, Jane, the SeaMonkey developers want you to use their program,
> which they think is the best!!
>

This is exactly the same position of microsoft.
If the previous version of SM permit to *not* us the SM-mail part - I 
see no real reason tu cut away this possibility. Except that the 
developers lives in their gold-tower ... neglecting the people using 
their product.
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Ray_Net
4/17/2010 1:40:46 PM
Jane Galt wrote:
> "S. Beaulieu"<sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net>   wrote :
>
>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>
>>> Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to use a
>> suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead.
>>
>> S.
>>
>
> Great, I like the look and feel of the SM browser, why cant I get the
> standalone anymore?
>
Because the SM developer known better than you what is good for you 
....grrrr....
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Ray_Net
4/17/2010 1:41:57 PM
Chris Ilias wrote:
> On 10-04-16 5:08 PM, Frosted Flake wrote:
>> Have you folks noticed the the OP has NOT been back in this thread
>> since the initial few messages?
>>
>> Why keep beating a dead horse for a troll?
>
> The replies to this post from Roger Fink and Jane Galt have been
> removed from the news server, because they contained personal attack.
> See <http://www.mozilla.org/community/cancellation.html>.

Don't forget to remove the ones with provocations while you're at it.


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Roger
4/17/2010 1:53:05 PM
Ray_Net wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> Phillip Jones wrote:
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>> Philip Chee wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same
>>>>>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it,
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or
>>>>>>> similar)
>>>>>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in
>>>>> Firefox?
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phillip, What do you look for in "BookMarks"?? Might I suggest that you
>>>> look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term "Address Book" is
>>>> not to far off the mark.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have "Bookmarks" changed to "Address
>>>> Book"?? To me, "bookmarks" are placed in things, they are not THE thing
>>>> themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>> ??
>>>
>>> *Address books are exactly that*: email address, Name. nickname and if
>>> desired physical address, city, state, Zip/postal code, Phone, cell
>>> number, and a check market if the will accept HTML mail or not and
>>> whether you trust them to send remote content.
>>>
>>> Bookmarks are to be thought of.... well bookmarks place to go, say in a
>>> book, a location if you will. a URL is a Location on the web for a
>>> website.
>>>
>>> Another way to look at say you have a Book or long document typed in
>>> Word or converted to a PDF in that document is a Table of Contents (TOC)
>>> the table of contents if set up properly use each item in the TOC as a
>>> Bookmark to go to a specific location in the document. In this
>>> illustration you don't go to an addressbook you click a Bookmark to go
>>> to specific location.
>>>
>> Yes, Phillip, but my point is that places to go have addresses (your
>> home address, your Banks address, etc.) so www.mybankingplace.com is an
>> address on the internet/web/whatever, so if you have to save several web
>> addresses in a "book" it makes sense to call it an "addressbook", and
>> that addressbook would contain several bookmarks, i.e. the bookmark is
>> the web address contained in the addressbook.
>>
>> This way makes sense to me!!
>>
> Your way of sense is different that the majority.
> An adress book is a book of adresses.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_book
> A Bookmark is a collection of URL(Uniform Resource Locator).
> http://www.google.com/bookmarks/

In your last comment above is attributed to me as author of the last 
comment.

The comment I made starts at in part , "*Address books are exactly 
that*: email address, Name. nickname and . . ."

It was Daniel  whose comment Started "Yes, Phillip, but my point is that 
places to go have addresses . . ."

-- 
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http://www.phillipmjones.net           http://www.vpea.org
mailto:pjones1@kimbanet.com
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Phillip
4/17/2010 1:55:01 PM
Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:40:46 +0200, /Ray_Net/:

> This is exactly the same position of microsoft.
> If the previous version of SM permit to *not* us the SM-mail part - I 
> see no real reason tu cut away this possibility. Except that the 
> developers lives in their gold-tower ... neglecting the people using 
> their product.

It is our product (to the people using it).  The SeaMonkey developers 
devote it to us and they devote their time and will to make so, and we 
(the users) get a free product at the end.  I hope you realize the 
SeaMonkey developers are very few and their resources are pretty limited.

The exact case of not being able to not install the mail component in 
the new SeaMonkey version is caused by changes to the installer not 
introduced by the SeaMonkey developers but by the newer Mozilla base, as 
far as I'm aware.  It has been explained number of times in this group - 
you may search as I don't have references at hand.  The issue is known 
and the SeaMonkey developers also want it corrected, but it is just not 
that easy.  Statements like: "developers lives in their gold-tower ... 
neglecting the people using their product" sound pretty ridiculous to me.

-- 
Stanimir
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Stanimir
4/17/2010 2:13:08 PM
Ray_Net <TBRRaymond.SchmitTBR@TBRscarlet.be>  wrote :

> Daniel wrote:
>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>> "S. Beaulieu"<sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net> wrote :
>>>
>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Why do I have to throw out the baby with the bathwater and go to
>>> something
>>> else, JUST because of a programming problem where they wont let me use 
my
>>> own emailer?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Because, Jane, the SeaMonkey developers want you to use their program,
>> which they think is the best!!
>>
> 
> This is exactly the same position of microsoft.
> If the previous version of SM permit to *not* us the SM-mail part - I 
> see no real reason tu cut away this possibility. Except that the 
> developers lives in their gold-tower ... neglecting the people using 
> their product.
> 

Ultimately it's their software, and if they want to alienate some people 
from using it, their choice.


-- 
Jane Galt


Property Rights

The right to life is the source of all rights�and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness �Man�s Rights,� The Virtue of 
Selfishness, 94.
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Jane
4/17/2010 5:29:53 PM
Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net>  wrote :

> Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:40:46 +0200, /Ray_Net/:
> 
>> This is exactly the same position of microsoft.
>> If the previous version of SM permit to *not* us the SM-mail part - I 
>> see no real reason tu cut away this possibility. Except that the 
>> developers lives in their gold-tower ... neglecting the people using 
>> their product.
> 
> It is our product (to the people using it). 

NO. They put their time into developing it, it's their product.


> The SeaMonkey developers 
> devote it to us and they devote their time and will to make so, and we 
> (the users) get a free product at the end.  I hope you realize the 
> SeaMonkey developers are very few and their resources are pretty limited.
> 
> The exact case of not being able to not install the mail component in 
> the new SeaMonkey version is caused by changes to the installer not 
> introduced by the SeaMonkey developers but by the newer Mozilla base, as 
> far as I'm aware.  It has been explained number of times in this group - 
> you may search as I don't have references at hand.  The issue is known 
> and the SeaMonkey developers also want it corrected, but it is just not 
> that easy.  Statements like: "developers lives in their gold-tower ... 
> neglecting the people using their product" sound pretty ridiculous to me.
 

Agreed.


-- 
Jane Galt


Property Rights

The right to life is the source of all rights�and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness �Man�s Rights,� The Virtue of 
Selfishness, 94.
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Jane
4/17/2010 5:32:01 PM
Interviewed by CNN on 16/4/2010 22:09, Jane Galt told the world:
> MCBastos <myemail@example.invalid>  wrote :

>> However there are a few people who prefer the Seamonkey browser to
>> Firefox but intend to use other mail clients. There is a way to change
>> the Seamonkey behavior, although it's a hidden option. You can find the
>> instructions here:
>>
>> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
> 
> Tried that, several suggestions ago, doesnt work.
>  

Hmmm, I'm puzzled. That option is supposed to do exactly what you want,
that is, to call an external mail program whenever you click on a
"mailto:" link.

Besides setting network.protocol-handler.external.mailto to "true", I
have also seen mentions of setting network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
to the pathname of your mail program. Maybe that can solve the problem
for you.

-- 
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MCBastos
4/17/2010 10:31:13 PM
Jane Galt wrote:
> Ray_Net<TBRRaymond.SchmitTBR@TBRscarlet.be>   wrote :
>
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>> "S. Beaulieu"<sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net>  wrote :
>>>>
>>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Why do I have to throw out the baby with the bathwater and go to
>>>> something
>>>> else, JUST because of a programming problem where they wont let me use
> my
>>>> own emailer?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Because, Jane, the SeaMonkey developers want you to use their program,
>>> which they think is the best!!
>>>
>>
>> This is exactly the same position of microsoft.
>> If the previous version of SM permit to *not* us the SM-mail part - I
>> see no real reason tu cut away this possibility. Except that the
>> developers lives in their gold-tower ... neglecting the people using
>> their product.
>>
>
> Ultimately it's their software, and if they want to alienate some people
> from using it, their choice.
>
>
So, why did you complain ?
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Ray_Net
4/17/2010 10:41:09 PM
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:40:46 +0200, /Ray_Net/:
>
>> This is exactly the same position of microsoft.
>> If the previous version of SM permit to *not* us the SM-mail part - I
>> see no real reason tu cut away this possibility. Except that the
>> developers lives in their gold-tower ... neglecting the people using
>> their product.
>
> It is our product (to the people using it). The SeaMonkey developers
> devote it to us and they devote their time and will to make so, and we
> (the users) get a free product at the end. I hope you realize the
> SeaMonkey developers are very few and their resources are pretty limited.
>
> The exact case of not being able to not install the mail component in
> the new SeaMonkey version is caused by changes to the installer not
> introduced by the SeaMonkey developers but by the newer Mozilla base, as
> far as I'm aware. It has been explained number of times in this group -
> you may search as I don't have references at hand. The issue is known
> and the SeaMonkey developers also want it corrected, but it is just not
> that easy. Statements like: "developers lives in their gold-tower ...
> neglecting the people using their product" sound pretty ridiculous to me.
>
Sorry about my reaction on the SM developpers ..This must be directed to 
who develop Mozilla base ...
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Ray_Net
4/17/2010 10:43:31 PM
Ray_Net wrote:
> Jane Galt wrote:
>> "S. Beaulieu"<sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net> wrote :
>>
>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to use a
>>> suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead.
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>
>> Great, I like the look and feel of the SM browser, why cant I get the
>> standalone anymore?
>>
> Because the SM developer known better than you what is good for you
> ...grrrr....
This is not the fault of the SM developers, but the fault of the 
developpers of the "newer Mozilla base" ....
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Ray_Net
4/17/2010 10:45:36 PM
Ray_Net <TBRRaymond.SchmitTBR@TBRscarlet.be>  wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Ray_Net<TBRRaymond.SchmitTBR@TBRscarlet.be>   wrote :
>>
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>>> "S. Beaulieu"<sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net>  wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>> Why do I have to throw out the baby with the bathwater and go to
>>>>> something
>>>>> else, JUST because of a programming problem where they wont let me 
use
>> my
>>>>> own emailer?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Because, Jane, the SeaMonkey developers want you to use their program,
>>>> which they think is the best!!
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is exactly the same position of microsoft.
>>> If the previous version of SM permit to *not* us the SM-mail part - I
>>> see no real reason tu cut away this possibility. Except that the
>>> developers lives in their gold-tower ... neglecting the people using
>>> their product.
>>>
>>
>> Ultimately it's their software, and if they want to alienate some people
>> from using it, their choice.
>>
>>
> So, why did you complain ?
> 

I've been asking if there's a fix.

-- 
Jane Galt


Property Rights

The right to life is the source of all rights�and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness �Man�s Rights,� The Virtue of 
Selfishness, 94.
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Jane
4/17/2010 11:07:57 PM
MCBastos <myemail@example.invalid>  wrote :

> Interviewed by CNN on 16/4/2010 22:09, Jane Galt told the world:
>> MCBastos <myemail@example.invalid>  wrote :
> 
>>> However there are a few people who prefer the Seamonkey browser to
>>> Firefox but intend to use other mail clients. There is a way to change
>>> the Seamonkey behavior, although it's a hidden option. You can find the
>>> instructions here:
>>>
>>> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
>> 
>> Tried that, several suggestions ago, doesnt work.
>>  
> 
> Hmmm, I'm puzzled. That option is supposed to do exactly what you want,
> that is, to call an external mail program whenever you click on a
> "mailto:" link.
> 
> Besides setting network.protocol-handler.external.mailto to "true", I
> have also seen mentions of setting network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
> to the pathname of your mail program. Maybe that can solve the problem
> for you.

Just tried...nope. 


-- 
Jane Galt


Property Rights

The right to life is the source of all rights�and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness �Man�s Rights,� The Virtue of 
Selfishness, 94.
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Jane
4/17/2010 11:13:26 PM
MCBastos wrote:
> Interviewed by CNN on 16/4/2010 22:09, Jane Galt told the world:
>> MCBastos<myemail@example.invalid>   wrote :
>
>>> However there are a few people who prefer the Seamonkey browser to
>>> Firefox but intend to use other mail clients. There is a way to change
>>> the Seamonkey behavior, although it's a hidden option. You can find the
>>> instructions here:
>>>
>>> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
>>
>> Tried that, several suggestions ago, doesnt work.
>>
>
> Hmmm, I'm puzzled. That option is supposed to do exactly what you want,
> that is, to call an external mail program whenever you click on a
> "mailto:" link.
>
> Besides setting network.protocol-handler.external.mailto to "true", I
> have also seen mentions of setting network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
> to the pathname of your mail program. Maybe that can solve the problem
> for you.
>

Unless something has seriously changed if your using SM and click a 
mailto: link in SM automatically opens the email portion as it supposed to.

In FF clicking on such, opens an unnecessary blank Page then cranks up 
whatever email client you have. Its a Long standing bug Mozilla refuses 
to fix. when you click mailto: it supposed to immediately go to what 
ever email client is setup. IN SM go goes to the email Component as it 
should.

-- 
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.    "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net           http://www.vpea.org
mailto:pjones1@kimbanet.com
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Phillip
4/17/2010 11:17:54 PM
Interviewed by CNN on 17/4/2010 20:13, Jane Galt told the world:
> MCBastos <myemail@example.invalid>  wrote :
> 
>> Interviewed by CNN on 16/4/2010 22:09, Jane Galt told the world:
>>> MCBastos <myemail@example.invalid>  wrote :
>>
>>>> However there are a few people who prefer the Seamonkey browser to
>>>> Firefox but intend to use other mail clients. There is a way to change
>>>> the Seamonkey behavior, although it's a hidden option. You can find the
>>>> instructions here:
>>>>
>>>> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
>>>
>>> Tried that, several suggestions ago, doesnt work.
>>>  
>>
>> Hmmm, I'm puzzled. That option is supposed to do exactly what you want,
>> that is, to call an external mail program whenever you click on a
>> "mailto:" link.
>>
>> Besides setting network.protocol-handler.external.mailto to "true", I
>> have also seen mentions of setting network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
>> to the pathname of your mail program. Maybe that can solve the problem
>> for you.
> 
> Just tried...nope. 

Weird. I just tested it.

- Opened About:config,
- created network.protocol-handler.external.mailto as a Boolean setting,
- set it to "true."
- Then I set Outlook Express as default e-mail program (by using Windows
"Set program access and defaults").

I didn't even have to close Seamonkey: I clicked on one "mailto" link in
the heading of a news message, and it prompted me to confirm choice of
OE (with an option to "remember setting).

Changed default e-mail program to Opera (these are the only two other
mail-capable programs I have around), tried again, and it asked to
confirm I wanted Opera. It worked again.

I tried with a webpage. Same result.

But I'm still using XP. Win7 is different in a lot of points, including
in the way "default programs" are set. So maybe it needs some tweaks there.

Set values back, and it went back to normal.

So I have no idea why this doesn't work for you. It should.

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MCBastos
4/17/2010 11:35:00 PM
MCBastos <myemail@example.invalid>  wrote :

> Interviewed by CNN on 17/4/2010 20:13, Jane Galt told the world:
>> MCBastos <myemail@example.invalid>  wrote :
>> 
>>> Interviewed by CNN on 16/4/2010 22:09, Jane Galt told the world:
>>>> MCBastos <myemail@example.invalid>  wrote :
>>>
>>>>> However there are a few people who prefer the Seamonkey browser to
>>>>> Firefox but intend to use other mail clients. There is a way to 
change
>>>>> the Seamonkey behavior, although it's a hidden option. You can find 
the
>>>>> instructions here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
>>>>
>>>> Tried that, several suggestions ago, doesnt work.
>>>>  
>>>
>>> Hmmm, I'm puzzled. That option is supposed to do exactly what you want,
>>> that is, to call an external mail program whenever you click on a
>>> "mailto:" link.
>>>
>>> Besides setting network.protocol-handler.external.mailto to "true", I
>>> have also seen mentions of setting network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
>>> to the pathname of your mail program. Maybe that can solve the problem
>>> for you.
>> 
>> Just tried...nope. 
> 
> Weird. I just tested it.
> 
> - Opened About:config,
> - created network.protocol-handler.external.mailto as a Boolean setting,
> - set it to "true."

Mine has been set for a few weeks now.

> - Then I set Outlook Express as default e-mail program (by using Windows
> "Set program access and defaults").

I dont allow OE on my computer.

> I didn't even have to close Seamonkey: I clicked on one "mailto" link in
> the heading of a news message, and it prompted me to confirm choice of
> OE (with an option to "remember setting).
> 
> Changed default e-mail program to Opera (these are the only two other
> mail-capable programs I have around), tried again, and it asked to
> confirm I wanted Opera. It worked again.

Lucky you. :)

> I tried with a webpage. Same result.
> 
> But I'm still using XP. Win7 is different in a lot of points, including
> in the way "default programs" are set. So maybe it needs some tweaks 
there.

OHHHH, still using XP. LOL

> Set values back, and it went back to normal.
> 
> So I have no idea why this doesn't work for you. It should.
 
Different OS, different email prog?




-- 
Jane Galt


Property Rights

The right to life is the source of all rights�and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness �Man�s Rights,� The Virtue of 
Selfishness, 94.
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Jane
4/17/2010 11:42:37 PM
In <news:Xns9D5DB42B8F235JaneGgulchxyz@216.196.97.169>,
Jane Galt <Jane_G@gulch.xyz> wrote:

> MCBastos <myemail@example.invalid>  wrote :

> > - Opened About:config,
> > - created network.protocol-handler.external.mailto as a Boolean
> > setting,
> > - set it to "true."
> 
> Mine has been set for a few weeks now.

Double-check that you created a boolean pref, not a string one.  If
it's not that, I can't guess what the problem is either.

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UTF
4/18/2010 12:31:57 AM
=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= <boxcars@gmx.net>  wrote :

> In <news:Xns9D5DB42B8F235JaneGgulchxyz@216.196.97.169>,
> Jane Galt <Jane_G@gulch.xyz> wrote:
> 
>> MCBastos <myemail@example.invalid>  wrote :
> 
>> > - Opened About:config,
>> > - created network.protocol-handler.external.mailto as a Boolean
>> > setting,
>> > - set it to "true."
>> 
>> Mine has been set for a few weeks now.
> 
> Double-check that you created a boolean pref, not a string one.  If
> it's not that, I can't guess what the problem is either.
> 

Yes, boolean. I was an electronics R&D tech for 27 years and had a college 
class in logic years ago. ( too many years ago :)

AND/OR, NAND, NOR etc...


-- 
Jane Galt


Property Rights

The right to life is the source of all rights�and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness �Man�s Rights,� The Virtue of 
Selfishness, 94.
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Jane
4/18/2010 12:53:45 AM
Interviewed by CNN on 17/4/2010 20:42, Jane Galt told the world:
> MCBastos <myemail@example.invalid>  wrote :
> 
>> Weird. I just tested it.
>>
>> - Opened About:config,
>> - created network.protocol-handler.external.mailto as a Boolean setting,
>> - set it to "true."
> 
> Mine has been set for a few weeks now.
> 
>> - Then I set Outlook Express as default e-mail program (by using Windows
>> "Set program access and defaults").
> 
> I dont allow OE on my computer.

I tried that... but I needed to keep OE handy to be able to check on it
while I hand-hold over the phone stupid customers who insist on using
it. At least it stays quiet if I don't use it and doesn't bother me --
not like its bully of a big brother, Office Outlook, which will take
over e-mail settings *even if you never use it.*

>> But I'm still using XP. Win7 is different in a lot of points, including
>> in the way "default programs" are set. So maybe it needs some tweaks 
> there.
> 
> OHHHH, still using XP. LOL

This is my home machine, which is rather old, I admit -- but as I'm not
a gamer, it has been fulfilling its expected role very well. My next
machine won't have Windows 7 either -- I plan on moving to Linux, and
having Microsoft-free evenings and weekends. Leave the crap at work and
all that.

>> Set values back, and it went back to normal.
>>
>> So I have no idea why this doesn't work for you. It should.
>  
> Different OS, different email prog?

The point in trying two different programs was that it worked with both,
so the solution is not specific to one software. I don't feel it's
necessary to install Pegasus just to run a test.

The about:config setting is internal to Seamonkey, anyway -- it doesn't
make any difference which OS or e-mail program you are using: either it
tries to call an external program or it doesn't.

However, if your Windows is telling Seamonkey that SM Mail is the
default mail program, then, well, that's what it's going to call. I do
system support for a living, and I found by bitter experience that
"default e-mail program" in Windows is not a clear-cut thing -- there
are apparently several settings that have to be changed. For instance,
if I set Seamonkey as "default e-mail" using the Windows tool, it STILL
will ask me on opening if I wish it to take over as the default e-mail
program. That is, there is some setting that the Windows tool left out.

My feeling is that this is a Windows problem, not a Seamonkey problem.
It's possible that neither the Windows 7 "defaults" tool nor Pegasus is
setting correctly the default mail program preferences. Sometimes, it
takes some back-and-forth shuffling to make it work right -- change the
default to another program and then change it back to Pegasus. It might
work.

-- 
MCBastos

This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized
use will be prosecuted under the DMCA.

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Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla
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MCBastos
4/18/2010 5:07:14 AM
Jane Galt wrote:
> Ray_Net<TBRRaymond.SchmitTBR@TBRscarlet.be>   wrote :
>
>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>> Ray_Net<TBRRaymond.SchmitTBR@TBRscarlet.be>    wrote :
>>>
>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>>>> "S. Beaulieu"<sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net>   wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do I have to throw out the baby with the bathwater and go to
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> else, JUST because of a programming problem where they wont let me
> use
>>> my
>>>>>> own emailer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Because, Jane, the SeaMonkey developers want you to use their program,
>>>>> which they think is the best!!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is exactly the same position of microsoft.
>>>> If the previous version of SM permit to *not* us the SM-mail part - I
>>>> see no real reason tu cut away this possibility. Except that the
>>>> developers lives in their gold-tower ... neglecting the people using
>>>> their product.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ultimately it's their software, and if they want to alienate some people
>>> from using it, their choice.
>>>
>>>
>> So, why did you complain ?
>>
>
> I've been asking if there's a fix.
>
There will be no fix, because, it's not a bug - it's a decision of the 
developers on the "Mozilla base" ...
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Ray_Net
4/18/2010 8:38:38 AM
Jane Galt wrote:
> =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=<boxcars@gmx.net>   wrote :
>
>> In<news:Xns9D5DB42B8F235JaneGgulchxyz@216.196.97.169>,
>> Jane Galt<Jane_G@gulch.xyz>  wrote:
>>
>>> MCBastos<myemail@example.invalid>   wrote :
>>
>>>> - Opened About:config,
>>>> - created network.protocol-handler.external.mailto as a Boolean
>>>> setting,
>>>> - set it to "true."
>>>
>>> Mine has been set for a few weeks now.
>>
>> Double-check that you created a boolean pref, not a string one.  If
>> it's not that, I can't guess what the problem is either.
>>
>
> Yes, boolean. I was an electronics R&D tech for 27 years and had a college
> class in logic years ago. ( too many years ago :)
>
> AND/OR, NAND, NOR etc...
>
>
So far, so good ... Are you sure that your prefered mail program is the 
windows default one ?
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Ray_Net
4/18/2010 8:44:11 AM
Ray_Net wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> Phillip Jones wrote:
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>> Philip Chee wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same
>>>>>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it,
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or
>>>>>>> similar)
>>>>>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access
>>>>> it in
>>>>> Firefox?
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phillip, What do you look for in "BookMarks"?? Might I suggest that you
>>>> look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term "Address Book" is
>>>> not to far off the mark.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have "Bookmarks" changed to "Address
>>>> Book"?? To me, "bookmarks" are placed in things, they are not THE thing
>>>> themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>> ??
>>>
>>> *Address books are exactly that*: email address, Name. nickname and if
>>> desired physical address, city, state, Zip/postal code, Phone, cell
>>> number, and a check market if the will accept HTML mail or not and
>>> whether you trust them to send remote content.
>>>
>>> Bookmarks are to be thought of.... well bookmarks place to go, say in a
>>> book, a location if you will. a URL is a Location on the web for a
>>> website.
>>>
>>> Another way to look at say you have a Book or long document typed in
>>> Word or converted to a PDF in that document is a Table of Contents (TOC)
>>> the table of contents if set up properly use each item in the TOC as a
>>> Bookmark to go to a specific location in the document. In this
>>> illustration you don't go to an addressbook you click a Bookmark to go
>>> to specific location.
>>>
>> Yes, Phillip, but my point is that places to go have addresses (your
>> home address, your Banks address, etc.) so www.mybankingplace.com is an
>> address on the internet/web/whatever, so if you have to save several web
>> addresses in a "book" it makes sense to call it an "addressbook", and
>> that addressbook would contain several bookmarks, i.e. the bookmark is
>> the web address contained in the addressbook.
>>
>> This way makes sense to me!!
>>
> Your way of sense is different that the majority.

Ray, the majority of the world drives on the right hand side of the 
road, here in Australia we drive on the left, so I know what it's like 
to be part of the minority!!

> An adress book is a book of adresses.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_book
> A Bookmark is a collection of URL(Uniform Resource Locator).
> http://www.google.com/bookmarks/

A URL by any other name is a web *address*, a Rose by any other name...

Daniel
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Daniel
4/18/2010 9:52:19 AM
Ray_Net wrote:
> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Ray_Net<TBRRaymond.SchmitTBR@TBRscarlet.be> wrote :
>>
>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>> Ray_Net<TBRRaymond.SchmitTBR@TBRscarlet.be> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>>>>> "S. Beaulieu"<sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net> wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do I have to throw out the baby with the bathwater and go to
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> else, JUST because of a programming problem where they wont let me
>> use
>>>> my
>>>>>>> own emailer?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because, Jane, the SeaMonkey developers want you to use their
>>>>>> program,
>>>>>> which they think is the best!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is exactly the same position of microsoft.
>>>>> If the previous version of SM permit to *not* us the SM-mail part - I
>>>>> see no real reason tu cut away this possibility. Except that the
>>>>> developers lives in their gold-tower ... neglecting the people using
>>>>> their product.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ultimately it's their software, and if they want to alienate some
>>>> people
>>>> from using it, their choice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> So, why did you complain ?
>>>
>>
>> I've been asking if there's a fix.
>>
> There will be no fix, because, it's not a bug - it's a decision of the
> developers on the "Mozilla base" ...

But there is a "work around" that Jane's been given and it also didn't 
work!!

Daniel
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Daniel
4/18/2010 10:09:20 AM
Ray_Net wrote:
> Ray_Net wrote:
>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>> "S. Beaulieu"<sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net> wrote :
>>>
>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to
>>>> use a
>>>> suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead.
>>>>
>>>> S.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Great, I like the look and feel of the SM browser, why cant I get the
>>> standalone anymore?
>>>
>> Because the SM developer known better than you what is good for you
>> ...grrrr....
> This is not the fault of the SM developers, but the fault of the
> developpers of the "newer Mozilla base" ....

No, or at least as I understand it!!

Mozilla developers are developing Firefox and Thunderbird as two totally 
separate programs.

The SeaMonkey Programmers/Council/Whatever then combine, FF (Seamonkey 
Suite Browser) and TB (SeaMonkey Suite Mail and News Group function) and 
Composer and Chatzilla into the one suite. Previously you were able to 
just install the SeaMonkey Suite Browser, but, since the advent of 
SeaMonkey Suite Ver 2.0, the minimum installation has become SeaMonkey 
Suite Browser AND Mail and News Group function.

A tweek of the SeaMonkey 2.0 User Prefs has previously allowed for the 
use of other mail programs, but, it would seem, SM 2.0 on Windows 7 
doesn't allow this modification.

At least that's as I understand it!

Must download TB for Windows, install it on my Win7, stick the tweek in 
my SM for Win7 prefs and see what happens.

Will report back!!

Daniel
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Daniel
4/18/2010 10:20:33 AM
Ray_Net <TBRRaymond.SchmitTBR@TBRscarlet.be>  wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Ray_Net<TBRRaymond.SchmitTBR@TBRscarlet.be>   wrote :
>>
>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>> Ray_Net<TBRRaymond.SchmitTBR@TBRscarlet.be>    wrote :
>>>>
>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>>>>> "S. Beaulieu"<sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net>   wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do I have to throw out the baby with the bathwater and go to
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> else, JUST because of a programming problem where they wont let me
>> use
>>>> my
>>>>>>> own emailer?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because, Jane, the SeaMonkey developers want you to use their 
program,
>>>>>> which they think is the best!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is exactly the same position of microsoft.
>>>>> If the previous version of SM permit to *not* us the SM-mail part - I
>>>>> see no real reason tu cut away this possibility. Except that the
>>>>> developers lives in their gold-tower ... neglecting the people using
>>>>> their product.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ultimately it's their software, and if they want to alienate some 
people
>>>> from using it, their choice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> So, why did you complain ?
>>>
>>
>> I've been asking if there's a fix.
>>
> There will be no fix, because, it's not a bug - it's a decision of the 
> developers on the "Mozilla base" ...
> 

Ok, I understand that now, and it's my decision to hassle with it or use 
some other bowser.


-- 
- Jane Galt
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Jane
4/18/2010 6:45:32 PM
Ray_Net <TBRRaymond.SchmitTBR@TBRscarlet.be>  wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=<boxcars@gmx.net>   wrote :
>>
>>> In<news:Xns9D5DB42B8F235JaneGgulchxyz@216.196.97.169>,
>>> Jane Galt<Jane_G@gulch.xyz>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> MCBastos<myemail@example.invalid>   wrote :
>>>
>>>>> - Opened About:config,
>>>>> - created network.protocol-handler.external.mailto as a Boolean
>>>>> setting,
>>>>> - set it to "true."
>>>>
>>>> Mine has been set for a few weeks now.
>>>
>>> Double-check that you created a boolean pref, not a string one.  If
>>> it's not that, I can't guess what the problem is either.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, boolean. I was an electronics R&D tech for 27 years and had a college
>> class in logic years ago. ( too many years ago :)
>>
>> AND/OR, NAND, NOR etc...
>>
>>
> So far, so good ... Are you sure that your prefered mail program is the 
> windows default one ?
> 

Yes, if I look in Default Programs, Seamonkey Mail has 0 of 3 defaults and 
Pegasus Mail is set to all the defaults that it can be. ( MailTo )

This thing is bypassing the system.


-- 
- Jane Galt
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Jane
4/18/2010 6:54:19 PM
Daniel <dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au>  wrote :

> Ray_Net wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Phillip Jones wrote:
>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>> Philip Chee wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the 
same
>>>>>>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it,
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or
>>>>>>>> similar)
>>>>>>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access
>>>>>> it in
>>>>>> Firefox?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Phillip, What do you look for in "BookMarks"?? Might I suggest that 
you
>>>>> look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term "Address Book" 
is
>>>>> not to far off the mark.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have "Bookmarks" changed to "Address
>>>>> Book"?? To me, "bookmarks" are placed in things, they are not THE 
thing
>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>> ??
>>>>
>>>> *Address books are exactly that*: email address, Name. nickname and if
>>>> desired physical address, city, state, Zip/postal code, Phone, cell
>>>> number, and a check market if the will accept HTML mail or not and
>>>> whether you trust them to send remote content.
>>>>
>>>> Bookmarks are to be thought of.... well bookmarks place to go, say in 
a
>>>> book, a location if you will. a URL is a Location on the web for a
>>>> website.
>>>>
>>>> Another way to look at say you have a Book or long document typed in
>>>> Word or converted to a PDF in that document is a Table of Contents 
(TOC)
>>>> the table of contents if set up properly use each item in the TOC as a
>>>> Bookmark to go to a specific location in the document. In this
>>>> illustration you don't go to an addressbook you click a Bookmark to go
>>>> to specific location.
>>>>
>>> Yes, Phillip, but my point is that places to go have addresses (your
>>> home address, your Banks address, etc.) so www.mybankingplace.com is an
>>> address on the internet/web/whatever, so if you have to save several 
web
>>> addresses in a "book" it makes sense to call it an "addressbook", and
>>> that addressbook would contain several bookmarks, i.e. the bookmark is
>>> the web address contained in the addressbook.
>>>
>>> This way makes sense to me!!
>>>
>> Your way of sense is different that the majority.
> 
> Ray, the majority of the world drives on the right hand side of the 
> road, here in Australia we drive on the left, so I know what it's like 
> to be part of the minority!!

How come you guys drive on the wrong side like that? ;-)




-- 
- Jane Galt
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Jane
4/18/2010 6:55:13 PM
Daniel <dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au>  wrote :

> Ray_Net wrote:
>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>> "S. Beaulieu"<sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to
>>>>> use a
>>>>> suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> S.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Great, I like the look and feel of the SM browser, why cant I get the
>>>> standalone anymore?
>>>>
>>> Because the SM developer known better than you what is good for you
>>> ...grrrr....
>> This is not the fault of the SM developers, but the fault of the
>> developpers of the "newer Mozilla base" ....
> 
> No, or at least as I understand it!!
> 
> Mozilla developers are developing Firefox and Thunderbird as two totally 
> separate programs.
> 
> The SeaMonkey Programmers/Council/Whatever then combine, FF (Seamonkey 
> Suite Browser) and TB (SeaMonkey Suite Mail and News Group function) and 
> Composer and Chatzilla into the one suite. Previously you were able to 
> just install the SeaMonkey Suite Browser, but, since the advent of 
> SeaMonkey Suite Ver 2.0, the minimum installation has become SeaMonkey 
> Suite Browser AND Mail and News Group function.

I suppose I'm lucky that it's allowing me to use Xnews for my usenet. :) 

> A tweek of the SeaMonkey 2.0 User Prefs has previously allowed for the 
> use of other mail programs, but, it would seem, SM 2.0 on Windows 7 
> doesn't allow this modification.
> 
> At least that's as I understand it!
> 
> Must download TB for Windows, install it on my Win7, stick the tweek in 
> my SM for Win7 prefs and see what happens.
> 
> Will report back!!

Thanks.



-- 
- Jane Galt
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Jane
4/18/2010 6:56:44 PM
On 04/16/2010 08:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
> NoOp   wrote :
> 
>> On 04/16/2010 06:01 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> ...
>> 
>>> 
>>> What?? I'm running Windows 7.
>>> 
>> 
>><http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&complete=0&q=Setting+Pegasus+to+be+Def
>>ault+Email+Client+%2Bwin+7&btnG=Search> 
>> 
>> http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/14660-email-defaults.html
>> 
>> Don't know as I use linux, but the above might help?
> 
> Thanks but BTDT. Pegasus is set as the default emailer for my system. The 
> ONLY program that wont work for, is SM. It even works for FF.
> 

OK. I just installed Pegasus Mail Version 4.52 on a Win7 system with
SeaMonkey 2.0.4:

o Set the default options in Win7 Control Panel to set Pegasus as the
default email program vs SeaMonkey:
Control Panel|Default Programs|Set your default programs|Pegasus
Mail|Choose defaults for this program|ticked the 'Mailto' and 'MAPI'|Save

o Opened SeaMonkey & added the previously suggested preference in
about:config
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
<quote>
Enter about:config in the location bar.
Add the Boolean preference network.protocol-handler.external.mailto.
Set the value to true.
</quote>

o Tested by going to:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/about#contact
and clicking on the mailto in "please mail the SeaMonkey Council at
seamonkey-council@mozilla.org.". SeaMonkey immediately pops up and gives
me the option:
 Pegasus Mail WSENTO Utility
and of course I could check the 'Rememeber my choice for mailto links'
if I wish this as the default in the future... I don't as I only am
testing. Choose "Pegasus Mail WSENTO Utility" and click OK. Off I go to
Pegasus & seamonkey-council@mozilla.org is already filled in for me in
the 'To:' address line.

So, it appears that this *does* indeed work. I'll now change my
network.protocol-handler.external.mailto preferences back false & set
SeaMonkey as the default mailer & reboot back to linux. Have a great
weekend :-)

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NoOp
4/18/2010 6:59:21 PM
NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net.invalid>  wrote :

> On 04/16/2010 08:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> NoOp   wrote :
>> 
>>> On 04/16/2010 06:01 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>>> ...
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What?? I'm running Windows 7.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>><http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&complete=0
&q=Setting+Pegasus+to+be+Def
>>>ault+Email+Client+%2Bwin+7&btnG=Search> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/14660-email-defaults.html
>>> 
>>> Don't know as I use linux, but the above might help?
>> 
>> Thanks but BTDT. Pegasus is set as the default emailer for my system. 
The 
>> ONLY program that wont work for, is SM. It even works for FF.
>> 
> 
> OK. I just installed Pegasus Mail Version 4.52 on a Win7 system with
> SeaMonkey 2.0.4:
> 
> o Set the default options in Win7 Control Panel to set Pegasus as the
> default email program vs SeaMonkey:
> Control Panel|Default Programs|Set your default programs|Pegasus
> Mail|Choose defaults for this program|ticked the 'Mailto' and 'MAPI'|Save
> 
> o Opened SeaMonkey & added the previously suggested preference in
> about:config
> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
><quote>
> Enter about:config in the location bar.
> Add the Boolean preference network.protocol-handler.external.mailto.
> Set the value to true.
></quote>
> 
> o Tested by going to:
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/about#contact
> and clicking on the mailto in "please mail the SeaMonkey Council at
> seamonkey-council@mozilla.org.". SeaMonkey immediately pops up and gives
> me the option:
>  Pegasus Mail WSENTO Utility
> and of course I could check the 'Rememeber my choice for mailto links'
> if I wish this as the default in the future... I don't as I only am
> testing. Choose "Pegasus Mail WSENTO Utility" and click OK. Off I go to
> Pegasus & seamonkey-council@mozilla.org is already filled in for me in
> the 'To:' address line.
> 
> So, it appears that this *does* indeed work. I'll now change my
> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto preferences back false & set
> SeaMonkey as the default mailer & reboot back to linux. Have a great
> weekend :-)
> 
> 

It worked to set Pegasus as your default in SM??? Why wont it do it for 
me???

-- 
- Jane Galt
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Jane
4/18/2010 7:08:36 PM
NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net.invalid>  wrote :

> On 04/16/2010 08:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> NoOp   wrote :
>> 
>>> On 04/16/2010 06:01 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>>> ...
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What?? I'm running Windows 7.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>><http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&complete=0
&q=Setting+Pegasus+to+be+Def
>>>ault+Email+Client+%2Bwin+7&btnG=Search> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/14660-email-defaults.html
>>> 
>>> Don't know as I use linux, but the above might help?
>> 
>> Thanks but BTDT. Pegasus is set as the default emailer for my system. 
The 
>> ONLY program that wont work for, is SM. It even works for FF.
>> 
> 
> OK. I just installed Pegasus Mail Version 4.52 on a Win7 system with
> SeaMonkey 2.0.4:
> 
> o Set the default options in Win7 Control Panel to set Pegasus as the
> default email program vs SeaMonkey:
> Control Panel|Default Programs|Set your default programs|Pegasus
> Mail|Choose defaults for this program|ticked the 'Mailto' and 'MAPI'|Save
> 
> o Opened SeaMonkey & added the previously suggested preference in
> about:config
> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
><quote>
> Enter about:config in the location bar.
> Add the Boolean preference network.protocol-handler.external.mailto.

Wait. Is there supposed to be a period on the end of that, or were you just 
punctuating for this post?

> Set the value to true.
></quote>
> 
> o Tested by going to:
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/about#contact
> and clicking on the mailto in "please mail the SeaMonkey Council at
> seamonkey-council@mozilla.org.". SeaMonkey immediately pops up and gives
> me the option:
>  Pegasus Mail WSENTO Utility
> and of course I could check the 'Rememeber my choice for mailto links'
> if I wish this as the default in the future...

I never got that.

> I don't as I only am
> testing. Choose "Pegasus Mail WSENTO Utility" and click OK. Off I go to
> Pegasus & seamonkey-council@mozilla.org is already filled in for me in
> the 'To:' address line.
> 
> So, it appears that this *does* indeed work. I'll now change my
> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto preferences back false & set
> SeaMonkey as the default mailer & reboot back to linux. Have a great
> weekend :-)
> 
> 



-- 
- Jane Galt
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Jane
4/18/2010 7:11:10 PM
Jane Galt wrote:
> Daniel<dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au>   wrote :
>
>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>> Phillip Jones wrote:
>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>> Philip Chee wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>>>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the
> same
>>>>>>>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it,
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or
>>>>>>>>> similar)
>>>>>>>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access
>>>>>>> it in
>>>>>>> Firefox?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phillip, What do you look for in "BookMarks"?? Might I suggest that
> you
>>>>>> look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term "Address Book"
> is
>>>>>> not to far off the mark.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have "Bookmarks" changed to "Address
>>>>>> Book"?? To me, "bookmarks" are placed in things, they are not THE
> thing
>>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> ??
>>>>>
>>>>> *Address books are exactly that*: email address, Name. nickname and if
>>>>> desired physical address, city, state, Zip/postal code, Phone, cell
>>>>> number, and a check market if the will accept HTML mail or not and
>>>>> whether you trust them to send remote content.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bookmarks are to be thought of.... well bookmarks place to go, say in
> a
>>>>> book, a location if you will. a URL is a Location on the web for a
>>>>> website.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another way to look at say you have a Book or long document typed in
>>>>> Word or converted to a PDF in that document is a Table of Contents
> (TOC)
>>>>> the table of contents if set up properly use each item in the TOC as a
>>>>> Bookmark to go to a specific location in the document. In this
>>>>> illustration you don't go to an addressbook you click a Bookmark to go
>>>>> to specific location.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, Phillip, but my point is that places to go have addresses (your
>>>> home address, your Banks address, etc.) so www.mybankingplace.com is an
>>>> address on the internet/web/whatever, so if you have to save several
> web
>>>> addresses in a "book" it makes sense to call it an "addressbook", and
>>>> that addressbook would contain several bookmarks, i.e. the bookmark is
>>>> the web address contained in the addressbook.
>>>>
>>>> This way makes sense to me!!
>>>>
>>> Your way of sense is different that the majority.
>>
>> Ray, the majority of the world drives on the right hand side of the
>> road, here in Australia we drive on the left, so I know what it's like
>> to be part of the minority!!
>
> How come you guys drive on the wrong side like that? ;-)
>
>
>
>

They just want to be different ;-)

-- 
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.    "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net           http://www.vpea.org
mailto:pjones1@kimbanet.com
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Phillip
4/18/2010 7:57:12 PM
On 04/18/2010 12:11 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
> NoOp   wrote :
....
>> OK. I just installed Pegasus Mail Version 4.52 on a Win7 system with
>> SeaMonkey 2.0.4:
>> 
>> o Set the default options in Win7 Control Panel to set Pegasus as the
>> default email program vs SeaMonkey:
>> Control Panel|Default Programs|Set your default programs|Pegasus
>> Mail|Choose defaults for this program|ticked the 'Mailto' and 'MAPI'|Save
>> 
>> o Opened SeaMonkey & added the previously suggested preference in
>> about:config
>> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
>><quote>
>> Enter about:config in the location bar.
>> Add the Boolean preference network.protocol-handler.external.mailto.
> 
> Wait. Is there supposed to be a period on the end of that, or were you just 
> punctuating for this post?

Puntuating. But it wasn't me, it was Chris' error on his site
instructions. Leave the period off, just use

network.protocol-handler.external.mailto

Have you added this preference? To do so, open about:config in the
browser url address bar. Right click on a blank space in the pane.
Select New|Boolean
in the preference box enter: network.protocol-handler.external.mailto
in the boolean box select: true
You do not have to reboot or anything, the change will be instantaneous.
If you are still having problems, send me an email directly (drop the
..invalid in the email address) and I'll talk you through it with
screenshots.

Gary
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NoOp
4/18/2010 8:45:08 PM
NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net.invalid>  wrote :

> On 04/18/2010 12:11 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> NoOp   wrote :
> ...
>>> OK. I just installed Pegasus Mail Version 4.52 on a Win7 system with
>>> SeaMonkey 2.0.4:
>>> 
>>> o Set the default options in Win7 Control Panel to set Pegasus as the
>>> default email program vs SeaMonkey:
>>> Control Panel|Default Programs|Set your default programs|Pegasus
>>> Mail|Choose defaults for this program|ticked the 'Mailto' and
>>> 'MAPI'|Save 
>>> 
>>> o Opened SeaMonkey & added the previously suggested preference in
>>> about:config
>>> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
>>><quote>
>>> Enter about:config in the location bar.
>>> Add the Boolean preference network.protocol-handler.external.mailto.
>> 
>> Wait. Is there supposed to be a period on the end of that, or were you
>> just punctuating for this post?
> 
> Puntuating. But it wasn't me, it was Chris' error on his site
> instructions. Leave the period off, just use
> 
> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto
> 
> Have you added this preference?

Yeah, I've said so over & over now. Doesnt work for me here.

 To do so, open about:config in the
> browser url address bar. Right click on a blank space in the pane.
> Select New|Boolean
> in the preference box enter: network.protocol-handler.external.mailto
> in the boolean box select: true
> You do not have to reboot or anything, the change will be instantaneous.
> If you are still having problems, send me an email directly (drop the
> .invalid in the email address) and I'll talk you through it with
> screenshots.

It's been in there for weeks.


-- 
- Jane Galt
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Jane
4/19/2010 1:03:54 AM
NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net.invalid>  wrote :
 
> 
> OK. I just installed Pegasus Mail Version 4.52 on a Win7 system with
> SeaMonkey 2.0.4:
> 
> o Set the default options in Win7 Control Panel to set Pegasus as the
> default email program vs SeaMonkey:
> Control Panel|Default Programs|Set your default programs|Pegasus
> Mail|Choose defaults for this program|ticked the 'Mailto' and 'MAPI'|Save
> 
> o Opened SeaMonkey & added the previously suggested preference in
> about:config
> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
><quote>
> Enter about:config in the location bar.
> Add the Boolean preference network.protocol-handler.external.mailto.
> Set the value to true.
></quote>
> 
> o Tested by going to:
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/about#contact
> and clicking on the mailto in "please mail the SeaMonkey Council at
> seamonkey-council@mozilla.org.". SeaMonkey immediately pops up and gives
> me the option:
>  Pegasus Mail WSENTO Utility
> and of course I could check the 'Rememeber my choice for mailto links'
> if I wish this as the default in the future... I don't as I only am
> testing. Choose "Pegasus Mail WSENTO Utility" and click OK. Off I go to
> Pegasus & seamonkey-council@mozilla.org is already filled in for me in
> the 'To:' address line.
> 
> So, it appears that this *does* indeed work. I'll now change my
> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto preferences back false & set
> SeaMonkey as the default mailer & reboot back to linux. Have a great
> weekend :-)

This is just tweaking the heck out of my curiousity now.

Which flavor of Windows 7 do you have?

This is Home Premium by the way.



-- 
- Jane Galt
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Jane
4/19/2010 1:23:10 AM
On 04/18/2010 06:23 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
> NoOp ... (modify your email client so that it doesn't show email addresses when responding!)
>> So, it appears that this *does* indeed work. I'll now change my
>> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto preferences back false & set
>> SeaMonkey as the default mailer & reboot back to linux. Have a great
>> weekend :-)
> 
> This is just tweaking the heck out of my curiousity now.
> 
> Which flavor of Windows 7 do you have?
> 
> This is Home Premium by the way.
> 

Home Premium

As I said; you can contact me directly (tomorrow now as I'm finished
w/SeaMonkey today) and I'll be happy to talk you through it + provide
screenshots of both Pegasus and Win7.


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NoOp
4/19/2010 2:15:47 AM
NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net.invalid>  wrote :

> On 04/18/2010 06:23 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> NoOp ... (modify your email client so that it doesn't show email
>> addresses when responding!) 
>>> So, it appears that this *does* indeed work. I'll now change my
>>> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto preferences back false & set
>>> SeaMonkey as the default mailer & reboot back to linux. Have a great
>>> weekend :-)
>> 
>> This is just tweaking the heck out of my curiousity now.
>> 
>> Which flavor of Windows 7 do you have?
>> 
>> This is Home Premium by the way.
>> 
> 
> Home Premium
> 
> As I said; you can contact me directly (tomorrow now as I'm finished
> w/SeaMonkey today) and I'll be happy to talk you through it + provide
> screenshots of both Pegasus and Win7.
> 
> 
> 

I would, and thanks for the offer, but I KNOW it's done right, it just isnt 
working here.

-- 
- Jane Galt
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Jane
4/19/2010 3:32:35 AM
MCBastos wrote:
> Hmmm, I'm puzzled. That option is supposed to do exactly what you want,
> that is, to call an external mail program whenever you click on a
> "mailto:" link.

And it does what it should. Works well for me.

> Besides setting network.protocol-handler.external.mailto to "true", I
> have also seen mentions of setting network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
> to the pathname of your mail program. Maybe that can solve the problem
> for you.

Another idea would be to have a look at the helper applications pane in 
the settings window. After setting the boolean pref to true, I have a 
"mailto" entry, there, which allowes to set a mail client.

CU

Manuel

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Manuel
4/19/2010 5:18:15 AM
Manuel Reimer <mreimer@expires-30-04-2010.news-group.org>  wrote :

> MCBastos wrote:
>> Hmmm, I'm puzzled. That option is supposed to do exactly what you want,
>> that is, to call an external mail program whenever you click on a
>> "mailto:" link.
> 
> And it does what it should. Works well for me.
> 
>> Besides setting network.protocol-handler.external.mailto to "true", I
>> have also seen mentions of setting network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
>> to the pathname of your mail program. Maybe that can solve the problem
>> for you.
> 
> Another idea would be to have a look at the helper applications pane in 
> the settings window. After setting the boolean pref to true, I have a 
> "mailto" entry, there, which allowes to set a mail client.
> 
> CU
> 
> Manuel
> 
> 

Ahah. I dont. What's up with this?...

-- 
- Jane Galt
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Jane
4/19/2010 7:03:10 AM
Jane Galt <Jane_G@gulch.xyz>  wrote :

> Manuel Reimer <mreimer@expires-30-04-2010.news-group.org>  wrote :
> 
>> MCBastos wrote:
>>> Hmmm, I'm puzzled. That option is supposed to do exactly what you want,
>>> that is, to call an external mail program whenever you click on a
>>> "mailto:" link.
>> 
>> And it does what it should. Works well for me.
>> 
>>> Besides setting network.protocol-handler.external.mailto to "true", I
>>> have also seen mentions of setting network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
>>> to the pathname of your mail program. Maybe that can solve the problem
>>> for you.
>> 
>> Another idea would be to have a look at the helper applications pane in 
>> the settings window. After setting the boolean pref to true, I have a 
>> "mailto" entry, there, which allowes to set a mail client.
>> 
>> CU
>> 
>> Manuel
>> 
>> 
> 
> Ahah. I dont. What's up with this?...
> 

I just got it!

I went back to about:config and looked again there. My string 
network.protocol-handler.external.mailto
was at the very top of the list, which was odd. I looked down the pages and 
found other values starting with the: network.protocol-handler.external...

So why was network.protocol-handler.external.mailto at the very top?
Ahah! I had capitalized the first letter, like this!
Network.protocol-handler.external.mailto

THAT was keeping it from working?!?!?!

I deleted the value, it removed it, then I added 
network.protocol-handler.external.mailto
and it appeared instead, down the list with the others!

THEN the next time I clicked on the mailto link on a web page, it opened 
that box and ASKED me what I wanted to use!

At first I clicked on winpm-32.exe but that only took me into Pegasus when 
it was used, and didn't open a new email. So I had to go into Preferences - 
Helper Applications and change it to use wsendto.exe, and THAT did it!

NOW we know and hopefully this post will stay archived so others can see it 
in the future! 

Thanks guys, for all your patient help with this!

Whew!


-- 
- Jane Galt
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Jane
4/19/2010 7:20:09 AM
Jane Galt wrote:
Hello,

> I just got it!

Thanks for telling us how you solved the problem.

This setting should definetly get a checkbox in the settings window, to 
be easily available to anyone, who needs this setting.

CU

Manuel

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Manuel
4/19/2010 11:12:51 AM
Phillip Jones wrote:
> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Daniel<dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote :
>>
>>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>> Phillip Jones wrote:
>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>> Philip Chee wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the
>> same
>>>>>>>>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import
>>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or
>>>>>>>>>> similar)
>>>>>>>>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access
>>>>>>>> it in
>>>>>>>> Firefox?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phillip, What do you look for in "BookMarks"?? Might I suggest that
>> you
>>>>>>> look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term "Address Book"
>> is
>>>>>>> not to far off the mark.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have "Bookmarks" changed to
>>>>>>> "Address
>>>>>>> Book"?? To me, "bookmarks" are placed in things, they are not THE
>> thing
>>>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>> ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Address books are exactly that*: email address, Name. nickname
>>>>>> and if
>>>>>> desired physical address, city, state, Zip/postal code, Phone, cell
>>>>>> number, and a check market if the will accept HTML mail or not and
>>>>>> whether you trust them to send remote content.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bookmarks are to be thought of.... well bookmarks place to go, say in
>> a
>>>>>> book, a location if you will. a URL is a Location on the web for a
>>>>>> website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another way to look at say you have a Book or long document typed in
>>>>>> Word or converted to a PDF in that document is a Table of Contents
>> (TOC)
>>>>>> the table of contents if set up properly use each item in the TOC
>>>>>> as a
>>>>>> Bookmark to go to a specific location in the document. In this
>>>>>> illustration you don't go to an addressbook you click a Bookmark
>>>>>> to go
>>>>>> to specific location.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Phillip, but my point is that places to go have addresses (your
>>>>> home address, your Banks address, etc.) so www.mybankingplace.com
>>>>> is an
>>>>> address on the internet/web/whatever, so if you have to save several
>> web
>>>>> addresses in a "book" it makes sense to call it an "addressbook", and
>>>>> that addressbook would contain several bookmarks, i.e. the bookmark is
>>>>> the web address contained in the addressbook.
>>>>>
>>>>> This way makes sense to me!!
>>>>>
>>>> Your way of sense is different that the majority.
>>>
>>> Ray, the majority of the world drives on the right hand side of the
>>> road, here in Australia we drive on the left, so I know what it's like
>>> to be part of the minority!!
>>
>> How come you guys drive on the wrong side like that? ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> They just want to be different ;-)
>

No, Phillip, my guess is that our (white) fore-fathers were proud of 
their English heritage, where as you yanks fought a war to kick the 
English out of the U.S. of A. so you followed the Europeans and drive on 
the opposite side to the English!!

Just my guess.

Daniel
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Daniel
4/19/2010 11:18:39 AM
Jane Galt wrote:
> Daniel<dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au>   wrote :
>
>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>>> "S. Beaulieu"<sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net>  wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to
>>>>>> use a
>>>>>> suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Great, I like the look and feel of the SM browser, why cant I get the
>>>>> standalone anymore?
>>>>>
>>>> Because the SM developer known better than you what is good for you
>>>> ...grrrr....
>>> This is not the fault of the SM developers, but the fault of the
>>> developpers of the "newer Mozilla base" ....
>>
>> No, or at least as I understand it!!
>>
>> Mozilla developers are developing Firefox and Thunderbird as two totally
>> separate programs.
>>
>> The SeaMonkey Programmers/Council/Whatever then combine, FF (Seamonkey
>> Suite Browser) and TB (SeaMonkey Suite Mail and News Group function) and
>> Composer and Chatzilla into the one suite. Previously you were able to
>> just install the SeaMonkey Suite Browser, but, since the advent of
>> SeaMonkey Suite Ver 2.0, the minimum installation has become SeaMonkey
>> Suite Browser AND Mail and News Group function.
>
> I suppose I'm lucky that it's allowing me to use Xnews for my usenet. :)
>
>> A tweek of the SeaMonkey 2.0 User Prefs has previously allowed for the
>> use of other mail programs, but, it would seem, SM 2.0 on Windows 7
>> doesn't allow this modification.
>>
>> At least that's as I understand it!
>>
>> Must download TB for Windows, install it on my Win7, stick the tweek in
>> my SM for Win7 prefs and see what happens.
>>
>> Will report back!!
>
> Thanks.
>

And I see, elsewhere in this thread, that you have solved your problem. 
Good to hear.

When is a N not an n, ah!!

Daniel
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Daniel
4/19/2010 11:30:51 AM
On 04/18/2010 08:32 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
> NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net.invalid>  wrote :
> 
>> On 04/18/2010 06:23 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>>> NoOp ... (modify your email client so that it doesn't show email
>>> addresses when responding!) 
>>>> So, it appears that this *does* indeed work. I'll now change my
>>>> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto preferences back false & set
>>>> SeaMonkey as the default mailer & reboot back to linux. Have a great
>>>> weekend :-)
>>> 
>>> This is just tweaking the heck out of my curiousity now.
>>> 
>>> Which flavor of Windows 7 do you have?
>>> 
>>> This is Home Premium by the way.
>>> 
>> 
>> Home Premium
>> 
>> As I said; you can contact me directly (tomorrow now as I'm finished
>> w/SeaMonkey today) and I'll be happy to talk you through it + provide
>> screenshots of both Pegasus and Win7.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> I would, and thanks for the offer, but I KNOW it's done right, it just isnt 
> working here.
> 

Maybe it's BECAUSE you are overusing caps? :-)
(yeah, I saw the other post).

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NoOp
4/20/2010 12:04:30 AM
On 04/19/2010 12:20 AM, Jane Galt wrote:
....
> 
> I just got it!
> 
> I went back to about:config and looked again there. My string 
> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto
> was at the very top of the list, which was odd. I looked down the pages and 
> found other values starting with the: network.protocol-handler.external...
> 
> So why was network.protocol-handler.external.mailto at the very top?
> Ahah! I had capitalized the first letter, like this!
> Network.protocol-handler.external.mailto
> 
> THAT was keeping it from working?!?!?!
> 
> I deleted the value, it removed it, then I added 
> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto
> and it appeared instead, down the list with the others!
> 
> THEN the next time I clicked on the mailto link on a web page, it opened 
> that box and ASKED me what I wanted to use!
> 
> At first I clicked on winpm-32.exe but that only took me into Pegasus when 
> it was used, and didn't open a new email. So I had to go into Preferences - 
> Helper Applications and change it to use wsendto.exe, and THAT did it!
> 
> NOW we know and hopefully this post will stay archived so others can see it 
> in the future! 
> 
> Thanks guys, for all your patient help with this!
> 
> Whew!
> 
> 

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NoOp
4/20/2010 12:07:03 AM
On 04/19/2010 04:12 AM, Manuel Reimer wrote:
> Jane Galt wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>> I just got it!
> 
> Thanks for telling us how you solved the problem.
> 
> This setting should definetly get a checkbox in the settings window, to 
> be easily available to anyone, who needs this setting.
> 
> CU
> 
> Manuel
> 

Manuel, perhaps this could be added as a button/option in prefbar? That
way if you set up a new SM, prefbar could add the
network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
and have the button toggle true/false?
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NoOp
4/20/2010 12:09:39 AM
Manuel Reimer <mreimer@expires-30-04-2010.news-group.org>  wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>> I just got it!
> 
> Thanks for telling us how you solved the problem.
> 
> This setting should definetly get a checkbox in the settings window, to 
> be easily available to anyone, who needs this setting.

What blew my mind was that if you just add one upper case letter, it botches 
the whole string. Wow.


-- 
- Jane Galt
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Jane
4/20/2010 5:37:15 AM
Daniel <dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au>  wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Daniel<dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au>   wrote :
>>
>>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>>>> "S. Beaulieu"<sereenie-nospam-@netscape.net>  wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to
>>>>>>> use a
>>>>>>> suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> S.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great, I like the look and feel of the SM browser, why cant I get 
the
>>>>>> standalone anymore?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Because the SM developer known better than you what is good for you
>>>>> ...grrrr....
>>>> This is not the fault of the SM developers, but the fault of the
>>>> developpers of the "newer Mozilla base" ....
>>>
>>> No, or at least as I understand it!!
>>>
>>> Mozilla developers are developing Firefox and Thunderbird as two 
totally
>>> separate programs.
>>>
>>> The SeaMonkey Programmers/Council/Whatever then combine, FF (Seamonkey
>>> Suite Browser) and TB (SeaMonkey Suite Mail and News Group function) 
and
>>> Composer and Chatzilla into the one suite. Previously you were able to
>>> just install the SeaMonkey Suite Browser, but, since the advent of
>>> SeaMonkey Suite Ver 2.0, the minimum installation has become SeaMonkey
>>> Suite Browser AND Mail and News Group function.
>>
>> I suppose I'm lucky that it's allowing me to use Xnews for my usenet. :)
>>
>>> A tweek of the SeaMonkey 2.0 User Prefs has previously allowed for the
>>> use of other mail programs, but, it would seem, SM 2.0 on Windows 7
>>> doesn't allow this modification.
>>>
>>> At least that's as I understand it!
>>>
>>> Must download TB for Windows, install it on my Win7, stick the tweek in
>>> my SM for Win7 prefs and see what happens.
>>>
>>> Will report back!!
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
> 
> And I see, elsewhere in this thread, that you have solved your problem. 
> Good to hear.
> 
> When is a N not an n, ah!!

LOL.  Use the LOWER CASE luke...


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- Jane Galt
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Jane
4/20/2010 5:42:36 AM
NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net.invalid>  wrote :

> On 04/18/2010 08:32 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net.invalid>  wrote :
>> 
>>> On 04/18/2010 06:23 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>>>> NoOp ... (modify your email client so that it doesn't show email
>>>> addresses when responding!) 
>>>>> So, it appears that this *does* indeed work. I'll now change my
>>>>> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto preferences back false &
>>>>> set SeaMonkey as the default mailer & reboot back to linux. Have a
>>>>> great weekend :-)
>>>> 
>>>> This is just tweaking the heck out of my curiousity now.
>>>> 
>>>> Which flavor of Windows 7 do you have?
>>>> 
>>>> This is Home Premium by the way.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Home Premium
>>> 
>>> As I said; you can contact me directly (tomorrow now as I'm finished
>>> w/SeaMonkey today) and I'll be happy to talk you through it + provide
>>> screenshots of both Pegasus and Win7.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> I would, and thanks for the offer, but I KNOW it's done right, it just
>> isnt working here.
>> 
> 
> Maybe it's BECAUSE you are overusing caps? :-)
> (yeah, I saw the other post).

Just one teensy cap, at the beginning of a sentence. LOL 



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