Drop Down list

Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE desktop 
environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In my Win7 SM 
2.49.1, I'm sure I do have it. I cannot say I've ever had this problem 
before.

Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE desktop or 
in Mageia Linux.

TIA.

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Do you miss the list or the button? There should be a thicker line at the 
right which will show the list when clicked. gtk3 problem. Theme and 
distribution dependent.

Tracked in
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208

If it is this one will be fixed in 2.49.2 We just wait for Firefox ESR52 52.6 
now to make sure we get the latest security fixes and then start building.

FRG

Daniel wrote:
> Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE desktop 
> environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In my Win7 SM 2.49.1, I'm 
> sure I do have it. I cannot say I've ever had this problem before.
> 
> Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE desktop or in 
> Mageia Linux.
> 
> TIA.
> 
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Frank
1/12/2018 12:00:09 PM
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> Do you miss the list or the button? There should be a thicker line at 
> the right which will show the list when clicked. gtk3 problem. Theme and 
> distribution dependent.
> 
> Tracked in
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208
> 
> If it is this one will be fixed in 2.49.2 We just wait for Firefox ESR52 
> 52.6 now to make sure we get the latest security fixes and then start 
> building.
> 
> FRG
> 
> Daniel wrote:
>> Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE desktop 
>> environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In my Win7 SM 
>> 2.49.1, I'm sure I do have it. I cannot say I've ever had this problem 
>> before.
>>
>> Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE desktop or 
>> in Mageia Linux.
>>
>> TIA.
>>
Frank-Rainer, I'm back on Win7 SM 2.49.1 a.t.t. and in the URL line on 
the browser screen, at the very right hand side, I see a "ribbon'y" 
thing which offers me the possibility of bookmarking the URL and then a 
down-ward pointing arrowhead which, when I click on it, gives me the 
"drop-down" list of web addresses.

It is this second function, the arrowhead to display the "drop-down" 
list, that I'm missing on my Linux SM 2.49.1.

-- 
Daniel

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Daniel
1/12/2018 1:11:42 PM
Daniel wrote:
> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>> Do you miss the list or the button? There should be a thicker line at 
>> the right which will show the list when clicked. gtk3 problem. Theme 
>> and distribution dependent.
>>
>> Tracked in
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208
>>
>> If it is this one will be fixed in 2.49.2 We just wait for Firefox 
>> ESR52 52.6 now to make sure we get the latest security fixes and then 
>> start building.
>>
>> FRG
>>
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE desktop 
>>> environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In my Win7 SM 
>>> 2.49.1, I'm sure I do have it. I cannot say I've ever had this 
>>> problem before.
>>>
>>> Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE desktop 
>>> or in Mageia Linux.
>>>
>>> TIA.
>>>
> Frank-Rainer, I'm back on Win7 SM 2.49.1 a.t.t. and in the URL line on 
> the browser screen, at the very right hand side, I see a "ribbon'y" 
> thing which offers me the possibility of bookmarking the URL and then a 
> down-ward pointing arrowhead which, when I click on it, gives me the 
> "drop-down" list of web addresses.
> 
> It is this second function, the arrowhead to display the "drop-down" 
> list, that I'm missing on my Linux SM 2.49.1.
> 
  ... and it just occurred to me, as I scrolled through the posts in one 
of my UseNet news groups on Win7, in my Linux SM, on the Mail & News 
screen, I have the scroll-bars, but there are no "up" arrowheads or 
"down" arrowheads at either end, so I *have* to drag the scroll bar to 
where I want it. Not an easy task in some groups.

So, in the Browser URL bar, I'm missing the "down" arrowhead and, on the 
M & N screen, I'm missing the "up" and "down" arrowheads.

Could it be that the font I'm using on Linux doesn't have arrowhead 
symbols/characters?? Must check what font I'm using.

-- 
Daniel

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Daniel
1/12/2018 2:28:48 PM
Daniel wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>> Do you miss the list or the button? There should be a thicker line at 
>>> the right which will show the list when clicked. gtk3 problem. Theme 
>>> and distribution dependent.
>>>
>>> Tracked in
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208
>>>
>>> If it is this one will be fixed in 2.49.2 We just wait for Firefox 
>>> ESR52 52.6 now to make sure we get the latest security fixes and then 
>>> start building.
>>>
>>> FRG
>>>
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>> Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE desktop 
>>>> environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In my Win7 SM 
>>>> 2.49.1, I'm sure I do have it. I cannot say I've ever had this 
>>>> problem before.
>>>>
>>>> Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE desktop 
>>>> or in Mageia Linux.
>>>>
>>>> TIA.
>>>>
>> Frank-Rainer, I'm back on Win7 SM 2.49.1 a.t.t. and in the URL line on 
>> the browser screen, at the very right hand side, I see a "ribbon'y" 
>> thing which offers me the possibility of bookmarking the URL and then 
>> a down-ward pointing arrowhead which, when I click on it, gives me the 
>> "drop-down" list of web addresses.
>>
>> It is this second function, the arrowhead to display the "drop-down" 
>> list, that I'm missing on my Linux SM 2.49.1.
>>
>   ... and it just occurred to me, as I scrolled through the posts in one 
> of my UseNet news groups on Win7, in my Linux SM, on the Mail & News 
> screen, I have the scroll-bars, but there are no "up" arrowheads or 
> "down" arrowheads at either end, so I *have* to drag the scroll bar to 
> where I want it. Not an easy task in some groups.
> 
> So, in the Browser URL bar, I'm missing the "down" arrowhead and, on the 
> M & N screen, I'm missing the "up" and "down" arrowheads.
> 
> Could it be that the font I'm using on Linux doesn't have arrowhead 
> symbols/characters?? Must check what font I'm using.
> 

No, your problem with missing arrowheads has to do with your gtk theme. 
You can try other themes to see if you have one that includes "steppers" 
or you can use an override file to add them like I did.  Create a file 
in your home directory as follows:

~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css

containing the following:

*{
-GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
-GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
-GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
-GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
}

The above will add steppers to your scroll bars as you and I prefer.

Dave
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David
1/12/2018 3:44:29 PM
As I said. The dropmarker is there but only 1 pixel wide. You can click on it:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208

Scrollbars is

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269145

Scrollbar patch will probably not make it to 2.49.2 but there is a workaround 
in the bug.

FRG

Daniel wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>> Do you miss the list or the button? There should be a thicker line at the 
>>> right which will show the list when clicked. gtk3 problem. Theme and 
>>> distribution dependent.
>>>
>>> Tracked in
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208
>>>
>>> If it is this one will be fixed in 2.49.2 We just wait for Firefox ESR52 
>>> 52.6 now to make sure we get the latest security fixes and then start 
>>> building.
>>>
>>> FRG
>>>
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>> Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE desktop 
>>>> environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In my Win7 SM 2.49.1, 
>>>> I'm sure I do have it. I cannot say I've ever had this problem before.
>>>>
>>>> Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE desktop or in 
>>>> Mageia Linux.
>>>>
>>>> TIA.
>>>>
>> Frank-Rainer, I'm back on Win7 SM 2.49.1 a.t.t. and in the URL line on the 
>> browser screen, at the very right hand side, I see a "ribbon'y" thing which 
>> offers me the possibility of bookmarking the URL and then a down-ward 
>> pointing arrowhead which, when I click on it, gives me the "drop-down" list 
>> of web addresses.
>>
>> It is this second function, the arrowhead to display the "drop-down" list, 
>> that I'm missing on my Linux SM 2.49.1.
>>
>   ... and it just occurred to me, as I scrolled through the posts in one of my 
> UseNet news groups on Win7, in my Linux SM, on the Mail & News screen, I have 
> the scroll-bars, but there are no "up" arrowheads or "down" arrowheads at 
> either end, so I *have* to drag the scroll bar to where I want it. Not an easy 
> task in some groups.
> 
> So, in the Browser URL bar, I'm missing the "down" arrowhead and, on the M & N 
> screen, I'm missing the "up" and "down" arrowheads.
> 
> Could it be that the font I'm using on Linux doesn't have arrowhead 
> symbols/characters?? Must check what font I'm using.
> 
0
Frank
1/12/2018 9:54:19 PM
David H. Durgee wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>>> Do you miss the list or the button? There should be a thicker line 
>>>> at the right which will show the list when clicked. gtk3 problem. 
>>>> Theme and distribution dependent.
>>>>
>>>> Tracked in
>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208
>>>>
>>>> If it is this one will be fixed in 2.49.2 We just wait for Firefox 
>>>> ESR52 52.6 now to make sure we get the latest security fixes and 
>>>> then start building.
>>>>
>>>> FRG
>>>>
>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>> Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE desktop 
>>>>> environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In my Win7 SM 
>>>>> 2.49.1, I'm sure I do have it. I cannot say I've ever had this 
>>>>> problem before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE desktop 
>>>>> or in Mageia Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA.
>>>>>
>>> Frank-Rainer, I'm back on Win7 SM 2.49.1 a.t.t. and in the URL line 
>>> on the browser screen, at the very right hand side, I see a 
>>> "ribbon'y" thing which offers me the possibility of bookmarking the 
>>> URL and then a down-ward pointing arrowhead which, when I click on 
>>> it, gives me the "drop-down" list of web addresses.
>>>
>>> It is this second function, the arrowhead to display the "drop-down" 
>>> list, that I'm missing on my Linux SM 2.49.1.
>>>
>>   ... and it just occurred to me, as I scrolled through the posts in 
>> one of my UseNet news groups on Win7, in my Linux SM, on the Mail & 
>> News screen, I have the scroll-bars, but there are no "up" arrowheads 
>> or "down" arrowheads at either end, so I *have* to drag the scroll bar 
>> to where I want it. Not an easy task in some groups.
>>
>> So, in the Browser URL bar, I'm missing the "down" arrowhead and, on 
>> the M & N screen, I'm missing the "up" and "down" arrowheads.
>>
>> Could it be that the font I'm using on Linux doesn't have arrowhead 
>> symbols/characters?? Must check what font I'm using.
>>
> 
> No, your problem with missing arrowheads has to do with your gtk theme. 
> You can try other themes to see if you have one that includes "steppers" 
> or you can use an override file to add them like I did.  Create a file 
> in your home directory as follows:
> 
> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
> 
> containing the following:
> 
> *{
> -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
> -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
> -GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
> -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
> }
> 
> The above will add steppers to your scroll bars as you and I prefer.
> 
> Dave

When I booted the Laptop today (about 10 mins ago), I went looking for 
the mount point you mentioned, David. Even tried as SU, looking under my 
SM installation and in the root directory, but no go!!

Do I need to create the mount point (as SU??), if so where, or was I 
looking in all the wrong places??

-- 
Daniel

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Daniel
1/14/2018 8:24:10 AM
Daniel wrote:
> David H. Durgee wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>>>> Do you miss the list or the button? There should be a thicker line 
>>>>> at the right which will show the list when clicked. gtk3 problem. 
>>>>> Theme and distribution dependent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tracked in
>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208
>>>>>
>>>>> If it is this one will be fixed in 2.49.2 We just wait for Firefox 
>>>>> ESR52 52.6 now to make sure we get the latest security fixes and 
>>>>> then start building.
>>>>>
>>>>> FRG
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>> Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE 
>>>>>> desktop environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In my 
>>>>>> Win7 SM 2.49.1, I'm sure I do have it. I cannot say I've ever had 
>>>>>> this problem before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE 
>>>>>> desktop or in Mageia Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA.
>>>>>>
>>>> Frank-Rainer, I'm back on Win7 SM 2.49.1 a.t.t. and in the URL line 
>>>> on the browser screen, at the very right hand side, I see a 
>>>> "ribbon'y" thing which offers me the possibility of bookmarking the 
>>>> URL and then a down-ward pointing arrowhead which, when I click on 
>>>> it, gives me the "drop-down" list of web addresses.
>>>>
>>>> It is this second function, the arrowhead to display the "drop-down" 
>>>> list, that I'm missing on my Linux SM 2.49.1.
>>>>
>>>   ... and it just occurred to me, as I scrolled through the posts in 
>>> one of my UseNet news groups on Win7, in my Linux SM, on the Mail & 
>>> News screen, I have the scroll-bars, but there are no "up" arrowheads 
>>> or "down" arrowheads at either end, so I *have* to drag the scroll 
>>> bar to where I want it. Not an easy task in some groups.
>>>
>>> So, in the Browser URL bar, I'm missing the "down" arrowhead and, on 
>>> the M & N screen, I'm missing the "up" and "down" arrowheads.
>>>
>>> Could it be that the font I'm using on Linux doesn't have arrowhead 
>>> symbols/characters?? Must check what font I'm using.
>>>
>>
>> No, your problem with missing arrowheads has to do with your gtk 
>> theme. You can try other themes to see if you have one that includes 
>> "steppers" or you can use an override file to add them like I did.  
>> Create a file in your home directory as follows:
>>
>> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
>>
>> containing the following:
>>
>> *{
>> -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
>> -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
>> -GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
>> -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
>> }
>>
>> The above will add steppers to your scroll bars as you and I prefer.
>>
>> Dave
> 
> When I booted the Laptop today (about 10 mins ago), I went looking for 
> the mount point you mentioned, David. Even tried as SU, looking under my 
> SM installation and in the root directory, but no go!!
> 
> Do I need to create the mount point (as SU??), if so where, or was I 
> looking in all the wrong places??
> 

You should already have the .config directory at a minimum under your 
HOME directory.  That is what the ~/ refers to.  If working from the 
linux terminal window you will normally be there when the window is 
freshly opened and if you have the typical prompt will see " ~ $ " at 
the end of the input line indicating you are in your home directory.  If 
your prompt does not show a ~ before the $ you can get there by entering 
cd with no argument.  The .config directory is typically hidden, but you 
can still enter it with the cd command.  From anywhere you should get 
there with "cd ~/.config" as a command.

I am using linux mint 18.3 x64 cinnamon here and the gtk-3.0 
sub-directory already existed for me with a file bookmarks in it used by 
the cinnamon desktop.  I had to create the gtk.css file in that 
directory with the content I showed.

If for whatever environment you are running there is no gtk-3.0 
sub-directory you should be able to create it and then create the 
gtk.css file in it.  You might need to restart SeaMonkey to get the 
steppers to display after creating the override file.

I hope this helps.

Dave


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David
1/14/2018 3:26:25 PM
David H. Durgee wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> David H. Durgee wrote:
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>>>>> Do you miss the list or the button? There should be a thicker line 
>>>>>> at the right which will show the list when clicked. gtk3 problem. 
>>>>>> Theme and distribution dependent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tracked in
>>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it is this one will be fixed in 2.49.2 We just wait for Firefox 
>>>>>> ESR52 52.6 now to make sure we get the latest security fixes and 
>>>>>> then start building.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FRG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>> Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE 
>>>>>>> desktop environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In my 
>>>>>>> Win7 SM 2.49.1, I'm sure I do have it. I cannot say I've ever had 
>>>>>>> this problem before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE 
>>>>>>> desktop or in Mageia Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TIA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Frank-Rainer, I'm back on Win7 SM 2.49.1 a.t.t. and in the URL line 
>>>>> on the browser screen, at the very right hand side, I see a 
>>>>> "ribbon'y" thing which offers me the possibility of bookmarking the 
>>>>> URL and then a down-ward pointing arrowhead which, when I click on 
>>>>> it, gives me the "drop-down" list of web addresses.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is this second function, the arrowhead to display the 
>>>>> "drop-down" list, that I'm missing on my Linux SM 2.49.1.
>>>>>
>>>>   ... and it just occurred to me, as I scrolled through the posts in 
>>>> one of my UseNet news groups on Win7, in my Linux SM, on the Mail & 
>>>> News screen, I have the scroll-bars, but there are no "up" 
>>>> arrowheads or "down" arrowheads at either end, so I *have* to drag 
>>>> the scroll bar to where I want it. Not an easy task in some groups.
>>>>
>>>> So, in the Browser URL bar, I'm missing the "down" arrowhead and, on 
>>>> the M & N screen, I'm missing the "up" and "down" arrowheads.
>>>>
>>>> Could it be that the font I'm using on Linux doesn't have arrowhead 
>>>> symbols/characters?? Must check what font I'm using.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, your problem with missing arrowheads has to do with your gtk 
>>> theme. You can try other themes to see if you have one that includes 
>>> "steppers" or you can use an override file to add them like I did. 
>>> Create a file in your home directory as follows:
>>>
>>> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
>>>
>>> containing the following:
>>>
>>> *{
>>> -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
>>> -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
>>> -GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
>>> -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
>>> }
>>>
>>> The above will add steppers to your scroll bars as you and I prefer.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>> When I booted the Laptop today (about 10 mins ago), I went looking for 
>> the mount point you mentioned, David. Even tried as SU, looking under 
>> my SM installation and in the root directory, but no go!!
>>
>> Do I need to create the mount point (as SU??), if so where, or was I 
>> looking in all the wrong places??
> 
> You should already have the .config directory at a minimum under your 
> HOME directory.  That is what the ~/ refers to.  If working from the 
> linux terminal window you will normally be there when the window is 
> freshly opened and if you have the typical prompt will see " ~ $ " at 
> the end of the input line indicating you are in your home directory.  If 
> your prompt does not show a ~ before the $ you can get there by entering 
> cd with no argument.  The .config directory is typically hidden, but you 
> can still enter it with the cd command.  From anywhere you should get 
> there with "cd ~/.config" as a command.
> 
> I am using linux mint 18.3 x64 cinnamon here and the gtk-3.0 
> sub-directory already existed for me with a file bookmarks in it used by 
> the cinnamon desktop.  I had to create the gtk.css file in that 
> directory with the content I showed.
> 
> If for whatever environment you are running there is no gtk-3.0 
> sub-directory you should be able to create it and then create the 
> gtk.css file in it.  You might need to restart SeaMonkey to get the 
> steppers to display after creating the override file.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Dave
> 
Thanks for this explanation, David. It allowed me to find that, on my 
Mageia 6.0 with KDE Plasma DE, I also have the gtk-3.0 sub-directory 
already with a file "bookmarks" in it so same as you.

Now I'm off to 'man' to find out about making a gtk.css file in a 
directory that is hidden from me!! Can I do it just using KWrite and 
then save it to a hidden directory??

And, as a by-the-by, as I was posting last night, I was thinking that 
part of my problem was that when I installed SM 2.49.1, I installed it 
as SU ... so any changes I make to the looks of SM might be re-set when 
next I start SM. :-(

Your addition to the gtk-3.0 directory should stick though .... 
shouldn't they??

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Daniel
1/15/2018 9:17:58 AM
Daniel wrote:
> David H. Durgee wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> David H. Durgee wrote:
>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>>>>>> Do you miss the list or the button? There should be a thicker 
>>>>>>> line at the right which will show the list when clicked. gtk3 
>>>>>>> problem. Theme and distribution dependent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tracked in
>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it is this one will be fixed in 2.49.2 We just wait for 
>>>>>>> Firefox ESR52 52.6 now to make sure we get the latest security 
>>>>>>> fixes and then start building.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FRG
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>>> Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE 
>>>>>>>> desktop environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In 
>>>>>>>> my Win7 SM 2.49.1, I'm sure I do have it. I cannot say I've ever 
>>>>>>>> had this problem before.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE 
>>>>>>>> desktop or in Mageia Linux.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TIA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank-Rainer, I'm back on Win7 SM 2.49.1 a.t.t. and in the URL 
>>>>>> line on the browser screen, at the very right hand side, I see a 
>>>>>> "ribbon'y" thing which offers me the possibility of bookmarking 
>>>>>> the URL and then a down-ward pointing arrowhead which, when I 
>>>>>> click on it, gives me the "drop-down" list of web addresses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is this second function, the arrowhead to display the 
>>>>>> "drop-down" list, that I'm missing on my Linux SM 2.49.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>   ... and it just occurred to me, as I scrolled through the posts 
>>>>> in one of my UseNet news groups on Win7, in my Linux SM, on the 
>>>>> Mail & News screen, I have the scroll-bars, but there are no "up" 
>>>>> arrowheads or "down" arrowheads at either end, so I *have* to drag 
>>>>> the scroll bar to where I want it. Not an easy task in some groups.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, in the Browser URL bar, I'm missing the "down" arrowhead and, 
>>>>> on the M & N screen, I'm missing the "up" and "down" arrowheads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could it be that the font I'm using on Linux doesn't have arrowhead 
>>>>> symbols/characters?? Must check what font I'm using.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, your problem with missing arrowheads has to do with your gtk 
>>>> theme. You can try other themes to see if you have one that includes 
>>>> "steppers" or you can use an override file to add them like I did. 
>>>> Create a file in your home directory as follows:
>>>>
>>>> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
>>>>
>>>> containing the following:
>>>>
>>>> *{
>>>> -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
>>>> -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
>>>> -GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
>>>> -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> The above will add steppers to your scroll bars as you and I prefer.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>> When I booted the Laptop today (about 10 mins ago), I went looking 
>>> for the mount point you mentioned, David. Even tried as SU, looking 
>>> under my SM installation and in the root directory, but no go!!
>>>
>>> Do I need to create the mount point (as SU??), if so where, or was I 
>>> looking in all the wrong places??
>>
>> You should already have the .config directory at a minimum under your 
>> HOME directory.  That is what the ~/ refers to.  If working from the 
>> linux terminal window you will normally be there when the window is 
>> freshly opened and if you have the typical prompt will see " ~ $ " at 
>> the end of the input line indicating you are in your home directory.  
>> If your prompt does not show a ~ before the $ you can get there by 
>> entering cd with no argument.  The .config directory is typically 
>> hidden, but you can still enter it with the cd command.  From anywhere 
>> you should get there with "cd ~/.config" as a command.
>>
>> I am using linux mint 18.3 x64 cinnamon here and the gtk-3.0 
>> sub-directory already existed for me with a file bookmarks in it used 
>> by the cinnamon desktop.  I had to create the gtk.css file in that 
>> directory with the content I showed.
>>
>> If for whatever environment you are running there is no gtk-3.0 
>> sub-directory you should be able to create it and then create the 
>> gtk.css file in it.  You might need to restart SeaMonkey to get the 
>> steppers to display after creating the override file.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Dave
>>
> Thanks for this explanation, David. It allowed me to find that, on my 
> Mageia 6.0 with KDE Plasma DE, I also have the gtk-3.0 sub-directory 
> already with a file "bookmarks" in it so same as you.
> 
> Now I'm off to 'man' to find out about making a gtk.css file in a 
> directory that is hidden from me!! Can I do it just using KWrite and 
> then save it to a hidden directory??
> 
> And, as a by-the-by, as I was posting last night, I was thinking that 
> part of my problem was that when I installed SM 2.49.1, I installed it 
> as SU ... so any changes I make to the looks of SM might be re-set when 
> next I start SM. :-(
> 
> Your addition to the gtk-3.0 directory should stick though .... 
> shouldn't they??

That hidden directory is owned by you, so no problems writing in it.  It 
is hidden simply to keep those who may not know what they are doing from 
messing up their systems.  You should be able to use KWrite, I used the 
editor built into file commander myself.

I am not sure what problems you might have as a consequence of 
installing SM as SU, but it might result in a profile that cannot be 
changed when you are not SU.  If you encounter problems I suspect they 
can be fixed by completely uninstalling SM and reinstalling as a normal 
user.  I would check first where the profile is and who the owner is. 
If it is owned by root and you have problems you may have to remove it 
as SU when doing a reinstall.

Dave
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David
1/15/2018 12:48:08 PM
David H. Durgee wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> David H. Durgee wrote:
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>> David H. Durgee wrote:
>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do you miss the list or the button? There should be a thicker 
>>>>>>>> line at the right which will show the list when clicked. gtk3 
>>>>>>>> problem. Theme and distribution dependent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tracked in
>>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it is this one will be fixed in 2.49.2 We just wait for 
>>>>>>>> Firefox ESR52 52.6 now to make sure we get the latest security 
>>>>>>>> fixes and then start building.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FRG
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE 
>>>>>>>>> desktop environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In 
>>>>>>>>> my Win7 SM 2.49.1, I'm sure I do have it. I cannot say I've 
>>>>>>>>> ever had this problem before.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE 
>>>>>>>>> desktop or in Mageia Linux.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TIA.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frank-Rainer, I'm back on Win7 SM 2.49.1 a.t.t. and in the URL 
>>>>>>> line on the browser screen, at the very right hand side, I see a 
>>>>>>> "ribbon'y" thing which offers me the possibility of bookmarking 
>>>>>>> the URL and then a down-ward pointing arrowhead which, when I 
>>>>>>> click on it, gives me the "drop-down" list of web addresses.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is this second function, the arrowhead to display the 
>>>>>>> "drop-down" list, that I'm missing on my Linux SM 2.49.1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>   ... and it just occurred to me, as I scrolled through the posts 
>>>>>> in one of my UseNet news groups on Win7, in my Linux SM, on the 
>>>>>> Mail & News screen, I have the scroll-bars, but there are no "up" 
>>>>>> arrowheads or "down" arrowheads at either end, so I *have* to drag 
>>>>>> the scroll bar to where I want it. Not an easy task in some groups.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, in the Browser URL bar, I'm missing the "down" arrowhead and, 
>>>>>> on the M & N screen, I'm missing the "up" and "down" arrowheads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could it be that the font I'm using on Linux doesn't have 
>>>>>> arrowhead symbols/characters?? Must check what font I'm using.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, your problem with missing arrowheads has to do with your gtk 
>>>>> theme. You can try other themes to see if you have one that 
>>>>> includes "steppers" or you can use an override file to add them 
>>>>> like I did. Create a file in your home directory as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
>>>>>
>>>>> containing the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> *{
>>>>> -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
>>>>> -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
>>>>> -GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
>>>>> -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> The above will add steppers to your scroll bars as you and I prefer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> When I booted the Laptop today (about 10 mins ago), I went looking 
>>>> for the mount point you mentioned, David. Even tried as SU, looking 
>>>> under my SM installation and in the root directory, but no go!!
>>>>
>>>> Do I need to create the mount point (as SU??), if so where, or was I 
>>>> looking in all the wrong places??
>>>
>>> You should already have the .config directory at a minimum under your 
>>> HOME directory.  That is what the ~/ refers to.  If working from the 
>>> linux terminal window you will normally be there when the window is 
>>> freshly opened and if you have the typical prompt will see " ~ $ " at 
>>> the end of the input line indicating you are in your home directory. 
>>> If your prompt does not show a ~ before the $ you can get there by 
>>> entering cd with no argument.  The .config directory is typically 
>>> hidden, but you can still enter it with the cd command.  From 
>>> anywhere you should get there with "cd ~/.config" as a command.
>>>
>>> I am using linux mint 18.3 x64 cinnamon here and the gtk-3.0 
>>> sub-directory already existed for me with a file bookmarks in it used 
>>> by the cinnamon desktop.  I had to create the gtk.css file in that 
>>> directory with the content I showed.
>>>
>>> If for whatever environment you are running there is no gtk-3.0 
>>> sub-directory you should be able to create it and then create the 
>>> gtk.css file in it.  You might need to restart SeaMonkey to get the 
>>> steppers to display after creating the override file.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>> Thanks for this explanation, David. It allowed me to find that, on my 
>> Mageia 6.0 with KDE Plasma DE, I also have the gtk-3.0 sub-directory 
>> already with a file "bookmarks" in it so same as you.
>>
>> Now I'm off to 'man' to find out about making a gtk.css file in a 
>> directory that is hidden from me!! Can I do it just using KWrite and 
>> then save it to a hidden directory??
>>
>> And, as a by-the-by, as I was posting last night, I was thinking that 
>> part of my problem was that when I installed SM 2.49.1, I installed it 
>> as SU ... so any changes I make to the looks of SM might be re-set 
>> when next I start SM. :-(
>>
>> Your addition to the gtk-3.0 directory should stick though .... 
>> shouldn't they??
> 
> That hidden directory is owned by you, so no problems writing in it.  It 
> is hidden simply to keep those who may not know what they are doing from 
> messing up their systems.  You should be able to use KWrite, I used the 
> editor built into file commander myself.
> 
> I am not sure what problems you might have as a consequence of 
> installing SM as SU, but it might result in a profile that cannot be 
> changed when you are not SU.  If you encounter problems I suspect they 
> can be fixed by completely uninstalling SM and reinstalling as a normal 
> user.  I would check first where the profile is and who the owner is. If 
> it is owned by root and you have problems you may have to remove it as 
> SU when doing a reinstall.
> 
> Dave

Again, thank you very much, David. :-)

-- 
Daniel

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Daniel
1/16/2018 8:13:03 AM
On 1/12/2018 7:44 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
<...>
>>>
>>   ... and it just occurred to me, as I scrolled through the posts in one 
>> of my UseNet news groups on Win7, in my Linux SM, on the Mail & News 
>> screen, I have the scroll-bars, but there are no "up" arrowheads or 
>> "down" arrowheads at either end, so I *have* to drag the scroll bar to 
>> where I want it. Not an easy task in some groups.
>> 
>> So, in the Browser URL bar, I'm missing the "down" arrowhead and, on the 
>> M & N screen, I'm missing the "up" and "down" arrowheads.
>> 
>> Could it be that the font I'm using on Linux doesn't have arrowhead 
>> symbols/characters?? Must check what font I'm using.
>> 
> 
> No, your problem with missing arrowheads has to do with your gtk theme. 
> You can try other themes to see if you have one that includes "steppers" 
> or you can use an override file to add them like I did.  Create a file 
> in your home directory as follows:
> 
> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
> 
> containing the following:
> 
> *{
> -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
> -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
> -GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
> -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
> }
> 
> The above will add steppers to your scroll bars as you and I prefer.
> 
> Dave
> 

Thanks Dave!!
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NoOp
1/16/2018 8:58:06 PM
On 01/16/2018 12:58 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 1/12/2018 7:44 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> <...>
>>>>
>>>   ... and it just occurred to me, as I scrolled through the posts in one 
>>> of my UseNet news groups on Win7, in my Linux SM, on the Mail & News 
>>> screen, I have the scroll-bars, but there are no "up" arrowheads or 
>>> "down" arrowheads at either end, so I *have* to drag the scroll bar to 
>>> where I want it. Not an easy task in some groups.
>>> 
>>> So, in the Browser URL bar, I'm missing the "down" arrowhead and, on the 
>>> M & N screen, I'm missing the "up" and "down" arrowheads.
>>> 
>>> Could it be that the font I'm using on Linux doesn't have arrowhead 
>>> symbols/characters?? Must check what font I'm using.
>>> 
>> 
>> No, your problem with missing arrowheads has to do with your gtk theme. 
>> You can try other themes to see if you have one that includes "steppers" 
>> or you can use an override file to add them like I did.  Create a file 
>> in your home directory as follows:
>> 
>> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
>> 
>> containing the following:
>> 
>> *{
>> -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
>> -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
>> -GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
>> -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
>> }
>> 
>> The above will add steppers to your scroll bars as you and I prefer.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
> 
> Thanks Dave!!
> 

Thanks to Felix... :-;
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269145#c17
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NoOp
1/16/2018 9:10:54 PM
Daniel wrote:
> David H. Durgee wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> David H. Durgee wrote:
>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>> David H. Durgee wrote:
>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Do you miss the list or the button? There should be a thicker 
>>>>>>>>> line at the right which will show the list when clicked. gtk3 
>>>>>>>>> problem. Theme and distribution dependent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tracked in
>>>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it is this one will be fixed in 2.49.2 We just wait for 
>>>>>>>>> Firefox ESR52 52.6 now to make sure we get the latest security 
>>>>>>>>> fixes and then start building.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FRG
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE 
>>>>>>>>>> desktop environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In 
>>>>>>>>>> my Win7 SM 2.49.1, I'm sure I do have it. I cannot say I've 
>>>>>>>>>> ever had this problem before.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE 
>>>>>>>>>> desktop or in Mageia Linux.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TIA.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frank-Rainer, I'm back on Win7 SM 2.49.1 a.t.t. and in the URL 
>>>>>>>> line on the browser screen, at the very right hand side, I see a 
>>>>>>>> "ribbon'y" thing which offers me the possibility of bookmarking 
>>>>>>>> the URL and then a down-ward pointing arrowhead which, when I 
>>>>>>>> click on it, gives me the "drop-down" list of web addresses.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is this second function, the arrowhead to display the 
>>>>>>>> "drop-down" list, that I'm missing on my Linux SM 2.49.1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   ... and it just occurred to me, as I scrolled through the posts 
>>>>>>> in one of my UseNet news groups on Win7, in my Linux SM, on the 
>>>>>>> Mail & News screen, I have the scroll-bars, but there are no "up" 
>>>>>>> arrowheads or "down" arrowheads at either end, so I *have* to 
>>>>>>> drag the scroll bar to where I want it. Not an easy task in some 
>>>>>>> groups.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, in the Browser URL bar, I'm missing the "down" arrowhead and, 
>>>>>>> on the M & N screen, I'm missing the "up" and "down" arrowheads.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could it be that the font I'm using on Linux doesn't have 
>>>>>>> arrowhead symbols/characters?? Must check what font I'm using.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, your problem with missing arrowheads has to do with your gtk 
>>>>>> theme. You can try other themes to see if you have one that 
>>>>>> includes "steppers" or you can use an override file to add them 
>>>>>> like I did. Create a file in your home directory as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
>>>>>>
>>>>>> containing the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *{
>>>>>> -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
>>>>>> -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
>>>>>> -GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
>>>>>> -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The above will add steppers to your scroll bars as you and I prefer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> When I booted the Laptop today (about 10 mins ago), I went looking 
>>>>> for the mount point you mentioned, David. Even tried as SU, looking 
>>>>> under my SM installation and in the root directory, but no go!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Do I need to create the mount point (as SU??), if so where, or was 
>>>>> I looking in all the wrong places??
>>>>
>>>> You should already have the .config directory at a minimum under 
>>>> your HOME directory.  That is what the ~/ refers to.  If working 
>>>> from the linux terminal window you will normally be there when the 
>>>> window is freshly opened and if you have the typical prompt will see 
>>>> " ~ $ " at the end of the input line indicating you are in your home 
>>>> directory. If your prompt does not show a ~ before the $ you can get 
>>>> there by entering cd with no argument.  The .config directory is 
>>>> typically hidden, but you can still enter it with the cd command.  
>>>> From anywhere you should get there with "cd ~/.config" as a command.
>>>>
>>>> I am using linux mint 18.3 x64 cinnamon here and the gtk-3.0 
>>>> sub-directory already existed for me with a file bookmarks in it 
>>>> used by the cinnamon desktop.  I had to create the gtk.css file in 
>>>> that directory with the content I showed.
>>>>
>>>> If for whatever environment you are running there is no gtk-3.0 
>>>> sub-directory you should be able to create it and then create the 
>>>> gtk.css file in it.  You might need to restart SeaMonkey to get the 
>>>> steppers to display after creating the override file.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>> Thanks for this explanation, David. It allowed me to find that, on my 
>>> Mageia 6.0 with KDE Plasma DE, I also have the gtk-3.0 sub-directory 
>>> already with a file "bookmarks" in it so same as you.
>>>
>>> Now I'm off to 'man' to find out about making a gtk.css file in a 
>>> directory that is hidden from me!! Can I do it just using KWrite and 
>>> then save it to a hidden directory??
>>>
>>> And, as a by-the-by, as I was posting last night, I was thinking that 
>>> part of my problem was that when I installed SM 2.49.1, I installed 
>>> it as SU ... so any changes I make to the looks of SM might be re-set 
>>> when next I start SM. :-(
>>>
>>> Your addition to the gtk-3.0 directory should stick though .... 
>>> shouldn't they??
>>
>> That hidden directory is owned by you, so no problems writing in it.  
>> It is hidden simply to keep those who may not know what they are doing 
>> from messing up their systems.  You should be able to use KWrite, I 
>> used the editor built into file commander myself.
>>
>> I am not sure what problems you might have as a consequence of 
>> installing SM as SU, but it might result in a profile that cannot be 
>> changed when you are not SU.  If you encounter problems I suspect they 
>> can be fixed by completely uninstalling SM and reinstalling as a 
>> normal user.  I would check first where the profile is and who the 
>> owner is. If it is owned by root and you have problems you may have to 
>> remove it as SU when doing a reinstall.
>>
>> Dave
> 
> Again, thank you very much, David. :-)
> 
Finally got around to creating the css file, David. *VICTORY* !! I've 
got my scroll arrowheads back on my Linux SeaMonkey install! ;-)

Still no Browser URL Drop-down list, though! ;-(

-- 
Daniel

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1/18/2018 8:41:16 AM
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