Can't reach some websites

Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to 
open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey 
and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.

The message I get is:
*****************************
Secure Connection Failed
An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
Error code: <a id="errorCode" 
title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE</a>
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity 
of the received data could not be verified.
     Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
*****************************
What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.
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10/30/2019 1:01:01 AM
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When the OCSP boxes are checked I can't reach the website. If I uncheck 
them I can.


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Jeffry Wisnia wrote:
> 
>> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to 
>> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey 
>> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.
> 
> I have no problem reaching the linked site; it automatically redirects 
> to <https://www.td.com/us/en/personal-banking/>. If others can reach it 
> too, the problem is probably local.
> 
> What are your settings at Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | 
> Certificates? I have both OCSP boxes checked and it doesn't prevent me 
> from accessing the site.
> 
>>
>> The message I get is:
>> *****************************
>> Secure Connection Failed
>> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
>> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
>> Error code: <a id="errorCode" 
>> title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE</a>
>> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the 
>> authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
>>      Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
>> *****************************
>> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.
> 
> 

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Jeffry
10/30/2019 1:01:01 AM
On 11/30/2019 11:03 AM, Jeffry Wisnia wrote:
> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to 
> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey 
> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.
> 
> The message I get is:
> *****************************
> Secure Connection Failed
> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
> Error code: <a id="errorCode" 
> title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE</a>
> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity 
> of the received data could not be verified.
>      Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
> *****************************
> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.
> 

This indicates that a secure HTTP connection could not be established
with the Web server.  There are two things you might try.

1.  Using a WhoIs Web site or application, locate a contact E-mail
address for the domain, best if a technical administrator.  Send an
E-mail with a diplomatic complaint, including the error message.  This
is the most safe way to handle the problem.

2.  Disable OCSP checking.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit >
Preferences].  On the left side of the Preferences window, select
[Privacy & Security > Certificates].  On the Certificates pane, uncheck
the 2nd checkbox under OCSP.  This is NOT really a safe way to handle
the problem.  If you are really sure you are requesting the real Web
site, however, this is the most quick way to handle it.

-- 
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Yahoo News: "Cubs to hire David Ross as new manager"
No, that is NOT me.
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David
10/30/2019 6:16:53 PM
On 11/30/19, Jeffry Wisnia <jwisnia18@comcast.net> wrote:
> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to
> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey
> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.
>
> The message I get is:
> *****************************
> Secure Connection Failed
> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
> Error code: <a id="errorCode"
> title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE</a>
> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity
> of the received data could not be verified.
>      Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
> *****************************
> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.

Probably that the certificate authority OCSP server is having problems.

Edit / Preferences / Privacy & Security / Certificates
remove the checkmark next to
  When an OCSP server connection fails, treat the certificate as invalid

Altho it's probably a bad idea to turn off cert checking if you're
doing anything with your bank or credit card...  and considering
td.com is a bank & I just tried it and _didn't_ get an error I'd
strongly advise you not to change anything.  Give them a call and/or
wait & try again later.

Regards,
Lee
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Lee
10/30/2019 6:20:22 PM
Jeffry Wisnia wrote:

> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to 
> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey 
> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.

I have no problem reaching the linked site; it automatically redirects 
to <https://www.td.com/us/en/personal-banking/>. If others can reach it 
too, the problem is probably local.

What are your settings at Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | 
Certificates? I have both OCSP boxes checked and it doesn't prevent me 
from accessing the site.

> 
> The message I get is:
> *****************************
> Secure Connection Failed
> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
> Error code: <a id="errorCode" 
> title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE</a>
> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity 
> of the received data could not be verified.
>      Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
> *****************************
> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.


-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher

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Paul
10/30/2019 7:21:35 PM
On 11/30/19, Jeffry Wisnia <jwisnia18@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> When the OCSP boxes are checked I can't reach the website. If I uncheck
> them I can.

The benign explanation would be that it's an akami issue:
$ dig www.td.com.
   <.. snip ..>
;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.td.com.             300     IN      CNAME   www.td.com.edgekey.net.
www.td.com.edgekey.net. 900     IN      CNAME   e307.b.akamaiedge.net.
e307.b.akamaiedge.net.  300     IN      A       104.98.162.157

which would explain why you get an ocsp error & I don't - we're not
hitting the same server.  Try doing 'ping www.td.com' from the command
prompt and see what IP address you get..

fwiw I wouldn't risk signing in until everything is fixed.

Lee

>
>
> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> Jeffry Wisnia wrote:
>>
>>> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to
>>> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey
>>> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.
>>
>> I have no problem reaching the linked site; it automatically redirects
>> to <https://www.td.com/us/en/personal-banking/>. If others can reach it
>> too, the problem is probably local.
>>
>> What are your settings at Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security |
>> Certificates? I have both OCSP boxes checked and it doesn't prevent me
>> from accessing the site.
>>
>>>
>>> The message I get is:
>>> *****************************
>>> Secure Connection Failed
>>> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
>>> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
>>> Error code: <a id="errorCode"
>>> title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE</a>
>>> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
>>> authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
>>>      Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
>>> *****************************
>>> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.
>>
>>
>
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> support-seamonkey mailing list
> support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Lee
10/30/2019 8:42:46 PM
On 2019-11-30, Jeffry Wisnia wrote:

> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to
> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey
> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.
>
> The message I get is:
> *****************************
> Secure Connection Failed
> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
> Error code: <a id="errorCode"
> title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE</a>
> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
> authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
>     Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
> *****************************
> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.

Could it be a clock sync problem? Your clock seems to be set to
2019-11-30, not 2019-10-30. That would explain the "out-of-date".

-- 
Nuno Silva
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Nuno
10/30/2019 9:41:04 PM
Lee wrote:
> pingwww.td.com

When I tried that I ended up at:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fping+www.td.com%2F&t=seamonkey&ia=web

Which doesen't mean much to me.
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Jeffry
10/31/2019 1:01:01 AM
Jeffry Wisnia wrote:

> Lee wrote:
>> pingwww.td.com
> 
> When I tried that I ended up at:
> 
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fping+www.td.com%2F&t=seamonkey&ia=web 
> 
> 
> Which doesen't mean much to me.

That's not what he said:

> Try doing 'ping www.td.com' ***from the command prompt*** and see
> what IP address you get
Emphasis mine. Key error here: you didn't do it from a command prompt.

On Windows, press the Windows key, then "R" and enter "cmd" in the input 
window, hit Enter.

In the window that opens, type "ping www.td.com" WITH a space and 
WITHOUT the quotation marks. Hit Enter. When I do it, I get:

Pinging e307.b.akamaiedge.net [173.223.16.47] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 173.223.16.47: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=59
Reply from 173.223.16.47: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=59
Reply from 173.223.16.47: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=59
Reply from 173.223.16.47: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=59

Ping statistics for 173.223.16.47:
     Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
     Minimum = 10ms, Maximum = 16ms, Average = 13ms

How about you?

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
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Paul
10/31/2019 2:21:40 AM
On 10/30/19, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 2019-11-30, Jeffry Wisnia wrote:
>
>> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to
>> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey
>> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.
>>
>> The message I get is:
>> *****************************
>> Secure Connection Failed
>> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
>> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
>> Error code: <a id="errorCode"
>> title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE</a>
>> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
>> authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
>>     Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
>> *****************************
>> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.
>
> Could it be a clock sync problem? Your clock seems to be set to
> 2019-11-30, not 2019-10-30. That would explain the "out-of-date".

Good catch.  I get the same error if I set the date forward a month

Lee
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Lee
10/31/2019 4:20:51 AM
Lee wrote:
> On 10/30/19, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2019-11-30, Jeffry Wisnia wrote:
>>
>>> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to
>>> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey
>>> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.
>>>
>>> The message I get is:
>>> *****************************
>>> Secure Connection Failed
>>> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
>>> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
>>> Error code: <a id="errorCode"
>>> title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE</a>
>>> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
>>> authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
>>>      Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
>>> *****************************
>>> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.
>>
>> Could it be a clock sync problem? Your clock seems to be set to
>> 2019-11-30, not 2019-10-30. That would explain the "out-of-date".
> 
> Good catch.  I get the same error if I set the date forward a month
> 
> Lee
> 
Well, my clock now says 11-01-19. I'll see what happens now.

Thanks to All

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Jeffry
11/1/2019 1:01:01 AM
Op 2-12-2019 om 16:43 schreef Jeffry Wisnia:
> Lee wrote:
>> On 10/30/19, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2019-11-30, Jeffry Wisnia wrote:
>>>
>>>> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to
>>>> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey
>>>> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.
>>>>
>>>> The message I get is:
>>>> *****************************
>>>> Secure Connection Failed
>>>> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
>>>> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
>>>> Error code: <a id="errorCode"
>>>> title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE</a>
>>>> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
>>>> authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
>>>>      Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
>>>> *****************************
>>>> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Could it be a clock sync problem? Your clock seems to be set to
>>> 2019-11-30, not 2019-10-30. That would explain the "out-of-date".
>>
>> Good catch.  I get the same error if I set the date forward a month
>>
>> Lee
>>
> Well, my clock now says 11-01-19. I'll see what happens now.
> 
> Thanks to All
> 


Message from the future ??
You wrote this at 2 december 2019?

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Rink
11/1/2019 3:37:27 PM
On 2019-12-02 10:43 a.m., Jeffry Wisnia wrote:
>
> Well, my clock now says 11-01-19. I'll see what happens now.

Hi Jeffry,
According to the timestamp on your latest post, your clock is still a 
month ahead. There are instructions for this issue for Windows 7 users 
at 
<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-time-errors-secure-websites#firefox:win7:fx70>.
They should for SeaMonkey as well.

Windows XP instructions are gone. :)

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Chris
11/1/2019 5:53:05 PM
Chris Ilias wrote:

> On 2019-12-02 10:43 a.m., Jeffry Wisnia wrote:
>>
>> Well, my clock now says 11-01-19. I'll see what happens now.
> 
> Hi Jeffry,
> According to the timestamp on your latest post, your clock is still a 
> month ahead. There are instructions for this issue for Windows 7 users 
> at 
> <https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-time-errors-secure-websites#firefox:win7:fx70>. 
> 
> They should for SeaMonkey as well.
> 
> Windows XP instructions are gone. :)

Well, this isn't rocket science. If he can't figure out how to set the 
clock, he shouldn't be running a computer. There are assisted-living 
facilities for such people.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
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Paul
11/1/2019 6:02:52 PM
Op 1-11-2019 om 18:53 schreef Chris Ilias:
> On 2019-12-02 10:43 a.m., Jeffry Wisnia wrote:
>>
>> Well, my clock now says 11-01-19. I'll see what happens now.
> 
> Hi Jeffry,
> According to the timestamp on your latest post, your clock is still a 
> month ahead. There are instructions for this issue for Windows 7 users 
> at 
> <https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-time-errors-secure-websites#firefox:win7:fx70>. 
> 
> They should for SeaMonkey as well.
> 
> Windows XP instructions are gone. :)
> 

Jeffry,

Your clock is probably under in your screen in the right corner.
Click one time (or maybe double click) on the clock, it opens and you 
can set the date and time.

On my Windows7 PC I can synchronize the clock with the internet time
(my PC synchronizes with 'time.windows.com')
If you do that, it automatically change the winter time in summer time 
in march (and the other way in october).


Rink
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Rink
11/1/2019 6:32:37 PM
Nuno Silva wrote:
> Could it be a clock sync problem? Your clock seems to be set to
> 2019-11-30, not 2019-10-30. That would explain the "out-of-date".

I think that the clock is the most likely issue, especially if the site 
that OP is trying to connect to is a financial provider.  Inaccurate 
clocks are disruptive of some services (including certs), and financial 
institutions are especially sensitive in that area.

For what it is worth, I have a Linux box that I have in a virtual 
machine, and I don't have it active often.  On occasions when I start it 
up and try to update the packages list from repositories, I sometimes 
see all sorts of errors about invalid certs (similar to what's been 
mentioned).  On closer inspection, the problem always comes from this VM 
not keeping time well when it's inactive, and where the calendar is 
weeks off, usually behind.  As soon as I get the calendar showing the 
correct time, then there's no problems.

With a full computer (rather than virtual machine, as I've described 
here), historically, the most common reason for a clock problem is a 
CMOS battery that's nearly out of power.  That battery is what allows 
your BIOS to maintain system configuration when the power is off, and 
that includes the system clock as well.  It's been years since I've seen 
that kind of problem, and I think it's pretty rare on modern machines 
(especially ones with UEFI rather than BIOS), but it's not impossible, 
either.

In any case, this is illustrative of why it's essential to have your 
system clock that's accurate, within a few seconds.(And why most modern 
computers make regular checks with time servers).

Smith

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NFN
11/1/2019 7:13:49 PM
On 2019-11-01 2:02 p.m., Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> 
<snipped>
> 

As per <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/cancellation/>, 
Paul's post was removed from the news server because it contains a 
personal attack.

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Chris
11/1/2019 8:54:56 PM
Chris Ilias wrote:

> On 2019-11-01 2:02 p.m., Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>
> <snipped>
>>
> 
> As per <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/cancellation/>, 
> Paul's post was removed from the news server because it contains a 
> personal attack.

In your dreams.

Or is that a personal attack too?

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
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Paul
11/1/2019 9:43:00 PM
Chris Ilias wrote:
> On 2019-11-01 2:02 p.m., Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>
> <snipped>
>>
> 
> As per <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/cancellation/>, 
> Paul's post was removed from the news server because it contains a 
> personal attack.
> 
When I go to https://www.choicehotels.com/?sid=R7fK.HOsi0gArCg.4 my 
browsers freezes and I get a script error=never used to and going to the 
Hilton site and trying to sign in the Captcha just keeps repeating over 
and over no matter if I am correct --can't used either site with 
Seamonkey 2.49.4 I can not watch streaming on https://huskers.com/
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JAS
11/3/2019 1:47:10 AM
JAS wrote:

> When I go to https://www.choicehotels.com/?sid=R7fK.HOsi0gArCg.4 my 
> browsers freezes and I get a script error=never used to and going to the 
> Hilton site and trying to sign in the Captcha just keeps repeating over 
> and over no matter if I am correct --can't used either site with 
> Seamonkey 2.49.4 I can not watch streaming on https://huskers.com/

I can't see anything at all on the Huskers site, other than the footer. 
The rest of the page is blank.

I'm also having trouble with nhl.com, but IE 11 has similar trouble. On 
SM 2.49.5, I get a nearly blank page (a couple of plain-text menu items 
on the left and scores across the top). On IE 11 I get the main page OK, 
but all videos turn to a plain black panel with no controls when I hit 
the play button. Disabling AdBlock Plus doesn't help, nor does clearing 
cache and cookies. On the other hand, my NHL team sucks, so it hardly 
matters.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher

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Paul
11/3/2019 4:07:57 AM
Paul B. Gallagher:

>I can't see anything at all on the Huskers site, other than the footer. 
>The rest of the page is blank.

Works with my SM-2.53.1. A video did not not, due to

JavaScript warning:
https://sports.cbsimg.net/js/CBSi/app/VideoPlayer/Client-min-v0330.js,
line 1: unreachable code after return statement

>I'm also having trouble with nhl.com, ...

Works too, but requires 'Advertise Firefox compatibility'. Leads to a
Login where you can buy content. I didn't do that so I don't know what
would happen afterwards. ;)

Hartmut
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Hartmut
11/3/2019 4:30:28 AM
Hartmut Figge:

>Works with my SM-2.53.1. A video did not not, due to
                                      ^^^^^^^
Hm, *g*. On a pure NG I would have superseded this error, but there is
AFAIK a connection to a ML, so it would not help.

Hartmut
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Hartmut
11/3/2019 4:34:08 AM
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