Firefox 55 Changelog Comments

I see at https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/55.0/releasenotes/ there 
is tucked away the following message .........Firefox does not support 
downgrades, even though this may have worked in past versions. Users who 
install Firefox 55+ and later downgrade to an earlier version may 
experience issues with Firefox...........

I am not going to have the so called improvements (changes) so will 
probably not upgrade and if I do I will have a system image so can go 
back to a previous version.I will not be dictated too by Mozilla.

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On 2017-08-10 2:18 PM, Michael wrote:
> I see at https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/55.0/releasenotes/ there 
> is tucked away the following message .........Firefox does not support 
> downgrades, even though this may have worked in past versions. Users who 
> install Firefox 55+ and later downgrade to an earlier version may 
> experience issues with Firefox...........
> 
> I am not going to have the so called improvements (changes) so will 
> probably not upgrade and if I do I will have a system image so can go 
> back to a previous version.I will not be dictated too by Mozilla.

This really isn't the place to voice opinions about development. That's 
what the "Submit Feedback" item in the Help menu is for. That info gets 
collected at <http://input.mozilla.org/>, where a team of people read it 
and gather data about the most common issues. That data along with data 
from the support forum at <https://support.mozilla.org/> is then 
presented in the weekly Firefox delivery meeting.

If you'd like to get into an actual discussion about Firefox 
development, that's what the firefox-dev mailing list is for. For more 
info, visit <https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/firefox-dev>.

If there's a change that you want to know why it was made, asking in 
here should be fine. But be wary of those whose answers are based on 
speculation.

-- 
Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca>
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Chris
8/11/2017 1:05:31 AM
In article
<mailman.1904.1502413564.14893.support-firefox@lists.mozilla.org>,
   Chris Ilias <nmo5@ilias.ca> wrote:
> On 2017-08-10 2:18 PM, Michael wrote:
> > I see at https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/55.0/releasenotes/
> > there is tucked away the following message .........Firefox does not
> > support downgrades, even though this may have worked in past
> > versions. Users who install Firefox 55+ and later downgrade to an
> > earlier version may experience issues with Firefox...........
> > 
> > I am not going to have the so called improvements (changes) so will 
> > probably not upgrade and if I do I will have a system image so can go 
> > back to a previous version.I will not be dictated too by Mozilla.

> This really isn't the place to voice opinions about development. That's 
> what the "Submit Feedback" item in the Help menu is for. That info gets 
> collected at <http://input.mozilla.org/>, where a team of people read it 
> and gather data about the most common issues. That data along with data 
> from the support forum at <https://support.mozilla.org/> is then 
> presented in the weekly Firefox delivery meeting.

> If you'd like to get into an actual discussion about Firefox 
> development, that's what the firefox-dev mailing list is for. For more 
> info, visit <https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/firefox-dev>.

> If there's a change that you want to know why it was made, asking in 
> here should be fine. But be wary of those whose answers are based on 
> speculation.

Sorry, call me cynical... Dave you are so cynical... Yes it's true.

Been there, done... T-shirt... fat lady sings, curtain brought down,
caretaker locked the theatre doors...

Chris, are you seriously suggesting the committee, the developers take
notice of any single thing input from outside the mozilla Fx Cadre when
executing Firefox development? (ROFL)

Arising from the floor, tidying myself up...
Nah! There's more chance of me walking on the moon before I bucket than
that happening.

Call me cynical... That's what getting old does for you, been there...
seen it...  ;-)

The really sad thing is, I've been using Firefox since pre version 1 Beta
days and I've loved using Firefox... But now I'm forced into a corner with
the ESR version or later when ESR is eventually dumped, Palemoon assuming
it survives.

Sure when version 57 hits, I'll download it, install and have a play, but
from what I'm seeing and reading about the development (Bit of a Misnomer,
more of an undevelopment) I'm not at all enthused.

Dave

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Dave Triffid
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Dave
8/11/2017 6:09:15 AM
On 8/11/17 2:09 AM, Dave Symes wrote:
> Sure when version 57 hits, I'll download it, install and have a play, but
> from what I'm seeing and reading about the development (Bit of a Misnomer,
> more of an undevelopment) I'm not at all enthused.

Why not download it, install it in a custom location, create a profile 
for it and have a play now.

<https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/desktop/#nightly>

I use it daily as my production browser.

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WaltS48
8/11/2017 11:39:09 AM
WaltS48 <thalionusa@REMOVEaol.com> writes:


> Why not download it, install it in a custom location, create a profile for it
> and have a play now.
>
> <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/desktop/#nightly>
>
> I use it daily as my production browser.

The menu doesn't work for me. Probably because it requires >= gtk+ 3.4
which I don't have.

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Richmond
8/11/2017 1:23:34 PM
In article
<mailman.1927.1502451582.14894.support-firefox@lists.mozilla.org>,
   WaltS48 <thalionusa@REMOVEaol.com> wrote:
> On 8/11/17 2:09 AM, Dave Symes wrote:
> > Sure when version 57 hits, I'll download it, install and have a play,
> > but from what I'm seeing and reading about the development (Bit of a
> > Misnomer, more of an undevelopment) I'm not at all enthused.

> Why not download it, install it in a custom location, create a profile 
> for it and have a play now.

> <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/desktop/#nightly>

> I use it daily as my production browser.

An interesting thought, but my main old PC went phutt! recently, the new
one has Win 10 as the OS, so I'm a bit busy trying to get some of my old
(needed) legacy app to install...

Maybe when that annoyance is sorted, I'll have time to play.
Thanks for the thought.

Dave

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Dave Triffid
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Dave
8/11/2017 5:36:22 PM
In article <mailman.1887.1502389153.14893.support-
firefox@lists.mozilla.org>, notme@here.com says...
> Firefox does not support 
> downgrades, even though this may have worked in past versions. Users who 
> install Firefox 55+ and later downgrade to an earlier version may 
> experience issues with Firefox
> 

In a couple of places now I have seen mention that doing a Reset should 
restore functionality. So, after downgrading, bring up that (downgraded) 
Firefox, then go into about:support, and click on "Refresh Firefox...". 
This will wipe out extensions and extension data, but preserve cookies, 
history, and bookmarks.

Mozilla support page for "Refresh Firefox":
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-
settings

Short URL: http://mzl.la/15sSfJR

But when reading through bug reports like 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1246615 I think the 
cleanest solution is to export bookmarks (at the minimum), create a new 
profile for the downgraded Firefox, and then import those bookmarks. 
Everything else (such as extensions and their configurations) would have 
to be readded from scratch.

An image backup may work, but won't have latest changes one may have 
made to one's bookmarks.
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Mark12547
8/11/2017 11:30:37 PM
On 2017-08-11 2:09 AM, Dave Symes wrote:
> In article
> <mailman.1904.1502413564.14893.support-firefox@lists.mozilla.org>,
>     Chris Ilias <nmo5@ilias.ca> wrote:
> 
>> This really isn't the place to voice opinions about development. That's
>> what the "Submit Feedback" item in the Help menu is for. That info gets
>> collected at <http://input.mozilla.org/>, where a team of people read it
>> and gather data about the most common issues. That data along with data
>> from the support forum at <https://support.mozilla.org/> is then
>> presented in the weekly Firefox delivery meeting.
> 
>> If you'd like to get into an actual discussion about Firefox
>> development, that's what the firefox-dev mailing list is for. For more
>> info, visit <https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/firefox-dev>.
> 
>> If there's a change that you want to know why it was made, asking in
>> here should be fine. But be wary of those whose answers are based on
>> speculation.
> 
<snip>
> 
> Chris, are you seriously suggesting the committee, the developers take
> notice of any single thing input from outside the mozilla Fx Cadre when
> executing Firefox development? (ROFL)

I'm not suggesting it, I'm saying it. There are programs created just 
for it. In addition to what I mentioned above, there's also Heartbeat
<https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Shield/Heartbeat>, which also leads 
users to 
<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/rate-your-firefox-experience-heartbeat>.

> Arising from the floor, tidying myself up...
> Nah! There's more chance of me walking on the moon before I bucket than
> that happening.
> 
> Call me cynical... That's what getting old does for you, been there...
> seen it...  ;-)

I've "been there and seen" Firefox developers make decisions based on 
user-feedback as well.

If your feedback was not addressed, it could be for a number of reasons. 
I'd be glad to look it up for you.

Of course, if you're not going to believe me, then I wonder why you 
asked in the first place.

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Mailing list/Newsgroup moderator
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Chris
8/12/2017 12:21:43 AM
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