Fan issue with new Firefox

As soon as I updated Firefox to the latest version, I started having 
noticeable fan activity whenever I open Firefox and sometimes when I 
move from site to site. No other program causes this activity, and 
Firefox never did in previous versions.

Is there something I should do about this? Any ideas of why it's happening?

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Jo-Anne
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Jo
4/15/2018 9:22:10 PM
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On 4/15/2018 5:22 PM, Jo-Anne wrote:
> As soon as I updated Firefox to the latest version, I started having 
> noticeable fan activity whenever I open Firefox and sometimes when I move 
> from site to site. No other program causes this activity, and Firefox never 
> did in previous versions.
> 
> Is there something I should do about this? Any ideas of why it's happening?
> 

Are you running Windows? If so, open 'Task Manager' in a window before 
opening FF and watch the CPU utilization. Is FF suddenly using all or most 
of the CPU and is the percentage staying high? Oh, and what does FF open to 
when it starts? Is it a single page, a blank, a grouping of pages? What 
add-ons and plugins do you have?
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John
4/16/2018 10:58:50 AM
On 4/15/2018 5:22 PM, Jo-Anne wrote:
> As soon as I updated Firefox to the latest version, I started having 
> noticeable fan activity whenever I open Firefox and sometimes when I move 
> from site to site. No other program causes this activity, and Firefox never 
> did in previous versions.
> 
> Is there something I should do about this? Any ideas of why it's happening?
> 

Oh, and I should have added: where did you get your copy of FF? You didn't, 
for example, load it from some source other than Mozilla did you? Malware 
(and coin mining software) has been known to reside in legitimate-seeming 
apps and either can totally consume all computing resources causing the fan 
to spin up. Have you run malware scans?
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John
4/16/2018 11:04:04 AM
On 4/16/2018 at 6:58 AM, John McGaw created this epitome of digital genius:
> On 4/15/2018 5:22 PM, Jo-Anne wrote:
>> As soon as I updated Firefox to the latest version, I started having 
>> noticeable fan activity whenever I open Firefox and sometimes when I 
>> move from site to site. No other program causes this activity, and 
>> Firefox never did in previous versions.
>>
>> Is there something I should do about this? Any ideas of why it's 
>> happening?
>>
> 
> Are you running Windows? If so, open 'Task Manager' in a window before 
> opening FF and watch the CPU utilization. Is FF suddenly using all or 
> most of the CPU and is the percentage staying high? Oh, and what does FF 
> open to when it starts? Is it a single page, a blank, a grouping of 
> pages? What add-ons and plugins do you have?

And, does it happen in Safe Mode?

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Ed
4/16/2018 1:34:52 PM
On 4/16/2018 6:04 AM, John McGaw wrote:
> On 4/15/2018 5:22 PM, Jo-Anne wrote:
>> As soon as I updated Firefox to the latest version, I started having
>> noticeable fan activity whenever I open Firefox and sometimes when I
>> move from site to site. No other program causes this activity, and
>> Firefox never did in previous versions.
>>
>> Is there something I should do about this? Any ideas of why it's
>> happening?
>>
>
> Oh, and I should have added: where did you get your copy of FF? You
> didn't, for example, load it from some source other than Mozilla did
> you? Malware (and coin mining software) has been known to reside in
> legitimate-seeming apps and either can totally consume all computing
> resources causing the fan to spin up. Have you run malware scans?


I'll start with the easier question: I used Firefox's Update from within 
Firefox (Help | About Firefox), which had me update from 39.0.3 to 
43.0.1, then to 47.0.2, then to 56.0, then to 57.0, then to 59.0.2 (64 bit).

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Jo-Anne
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Jo
4/16/2018 4:00:31 PM
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, at 17:00, Jo-Anne wrote:

> I'll start with the easier question: I used Firefox's Update from within 
> Firefox (Help | About Firefox), which had me update from 39.0.3 to 
> 43.0.1, then to 47.0.2, then to 56.0, then to 57.0, then to 59.0.2 (64 bit).

And did the Firefox, right back at the start of the series of updates,
come from Mozilla?   If it came from elsewhere all the updates since
then could have been tainted.

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Jeremy
4/16/2018 4:05:43 PM
On 4/16/2018 11:05 AM, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, at 17:00, Jo-Anne wrote:
>
>> I'll start with the easier question: I used Firefox's Update from within
>> Firefox (Help | About Firefox), which had me update from 39.0.3 to
>> 43.0.1, then to 47.0.2, then to 56.0, then to 57.0, then to 59.0.2 (64 bit).
>
> And did the Firefox, right back at the start of the series of updates,
> come from Mozilla?   If it came from elsewhere all the updates since
> then could have been tainted.
>

I don't understand the question. Are you asking if I recently downloaded 
Firefox before doing the updates? If so, the answer is no. I've been 
using this Firefox for about three years (straight from Mozilla at the 
start) and finally decided to update because I was having trouble with 
websites that wouldn't work with my version any more.

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Jo-Anne
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Jo
4/16/2018 4:44:54 PM
On 4/16/2018 5:58 AM, John McGaw wrote:
> On 4/15/2018 5:22 PM, Jo-Anne wrote:
>> As soon as I updated Firefox to the latest version, I started having
>> noticeable fan activity whenever I open Firefox and sometimes when I
>> move from site to site. No other program causes this activity, and
>> Firefox never did in previous versions.
>>
>> Is there something I should do about this? Any ideas of why it's
>> happening?
>>
>
> Are you running Windows? If so, open 'Task Manager' in a window before
> opening FF and watch the CPU utilization. Is FF suddenly using all or
> most of the CPU and is the percentage staying high? Oh, and what does FF
> open to when it starts? Is it a single page, a blank, a grouping of
> pages? What add-ons and plugins do you have?


Yes, I'm running Windows 7. FF opens to my ISP's Yahoo news website. 
Today I haven't heard any fan activity so far. I'll keep monitoring it, 
though. One thing I can say is that just now, when I opened Firefox, CPU 
usage went to 42%, then slowly came down to 1%. I restarted FF without 
add-ons, and CPU usage was 25% at startup.

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Jo-Anne
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Jo
4/16/2018 5:01:16 PM
On 2018-04-15 5:22 PM, Jo-Anne wrote:
> As soon as I updated Firefox to the latest version, I started having 
> noticeable fan activity whenever I open Firefox and sometimes when I 
> move from site to site. No other program causes this activity, and 
> Firefox never did in previous versions.
> 
> Is there something I should do about this? Any ideas of why it's happening?

I don't think we got confirmation that you did a Refresh of Firefox. Did 
you do a Refresh?

The solutions in the following article may also help: 
<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-uses-too-many-cpu-resources-how-fix>

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Chris
4/16/2018 5:53:04 PM
On 4/16/2018 1:01 PM, Jo-Anne wrote:
> On 4/16/2018 5:58 AM, John McGaw wrote:
>> On 4/15/2018 5:22 PM, Jo-Anne wrote:
>>> As soon as I updated Firefox to the latest version, I started having
>>> noticeable fan activity whenever I open Firefox and sometimes when I
>>> move from site to site. No other program causes this activity, and
>>> Firefox never did in previous versions.
>>>
>>> Is there something I should do about this? Any ideas of why it's
>>> happening?
>>>
>>
>> Are you running Windows? If so, open 'Task Manager' in a window before
>> opening FF and watch the CPU utilization. Is FF suddenly using all or
>> most of the CPU and is the percentage staying high? Oh, and what does FF
>> open to when it starts? Is it a single page, a blank, a grouping of
>> pages? What add-ons and plugins do you have?
> 
> 
> Yes, I'm running Windows 7. FF opens to my ISP's Yahoo news website. Today 
> I haven't heard any fan activity so far. I'll keep monitoring it, though. 
> One thing I can say is that just now, when I opened Firefox, CPU usage went 
> to 42%, then slowly came down to 1%. I restarted FF without add-ons, and 
> CPU usage was 25% at startup.
> 
With a 'live' page which may have various media coming and going the usage 
can vary wildly so 42% can be quite usual. I just opened my FF home with 36 
tabs and over an approximately 13 second period the usage hit 70% then 
dropped to 62% then 80% then spiked for a little over a second at 100% 
indicated. Shortly afterward it dropped to varying around 5% but when one 
tab or other caught new content a couple of minutes later CPU usage spiked 
to 30% again for a couple of seconds.

All it would take for a sensitive computer to kick the fan speed up would 
be a single URL trying to process lots of intensive media for the CPU to 
heat enough to jack up the fan speed noticeably. On my system I run the 
BOINC distributed processing client 24X7 so all 8 threads of my CPU run 
normally at 100% but, with a good cooling system, the fan doesn't go (too) 
bananas so I never notice much change (except for now that I've paused 
BOINC temporarily for the preceding test and the computer sounds 
disturbingly and unnaturally quiet).
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John
4/16/2018 7:03:07 PM
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, at 17:44, Jo-Anne wrote:
> On 4/16/2018 11:05 AM, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, at 17:00, Jo-Anne wrote:
> >
> >> I'll start with the easier question: I used Firefox's Update from within
> >> Firefox (Help | About Firefox), which had me update from 39.0.3 to
> >> 43.0.1, then to 47.0.2, then to 56.0, then to 57.0, then to 59.0.2 (64 bit).
> >
> > And did the Firefox, right back at the start of the series of updates,
> > come from Mozilla?   If it came from elsewhere all the updates since
> > then could have been tainted.
>
> I don't understand the question. Are you asking if I recently downloaded 
> Firefox before doing the updates? If so, the answer is no. I've been 
> using this Firefox for about three years (straight from Mozilla at the 
> start) 

That's the important part... you got your Firefox from Mozilla at the start;
if you've updated it since then using its own facilities the updates will 
have come from Mozilla too... so you'll not be using a version of Firefox
that's been interfered with.

If you'd got FF from somewhere-else, and that had been interfered
with, then every update since then would most likely have come from
a tainted source too.

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Jeremy
4/16/2018 9:47:18 PM
On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-4, Jo-Anne wrote:
> As soon as I updated Firefox to the latest version, I started having 
> noticeable fan activity whenever I open Firefox and sometimes when I 
> move from site to site.

Just to add a hardware note to some of the other suggestions - have you taken the cover off your computer lately and checked the fan(s)? Particularly the CPU fan.

It's not uncommon for the CPU fan/heatsink to be largely choked up with dust (it can be a real jaw-dropper since most people rarely go there) and under those circumstances the fan will fire up with the least bit of increased demand on the CPU.
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herb
4/18/2018 9:43:44 PM
On 4/18/2018 4:43 PM, herb.michael@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-4, Jo-Anne wrote:
>> As soon as I updated Firefox to the latest version, I started having
>> noticeable fan activity whenever I open Firefox and sometimes when I
>> move from site to site.
>
> Just to add a hardware note to some of the other suggestions - have you taken the cover off your computer lately and checked the fan(s)? Particularly the CPU fan.
>
> It's not uncommon for the CPU fan/heatsink to be largely choked up with dust (it can be a real jaw-dropper since most people rarely go there) and under those circumstances the fan will fire up with the least bit of increased demand on the CPU.
>

Thank you for the reminder! It does imply, however, that the new Firefox 
causes increased demand on the CPU. None of my other programs do this.

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Jo-Anne
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Jo
4/19/2018 4:43:50 PM
On 4/19/18 12:43 PM, Jo-Anne wrote:
> On 4/18/2018 4:43 PM, herb.michael@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-4, Jo-Anne wrote:
>>> As soon as I updated Firefox to the latest version, I started having
>>> noticeable fan activity whenever I open Firefox and sometimes when I
>>> move from site to site.
>>
>> Just to add a hardware note to some of the other suggestions - have 
>> you taken the cover off your computer lately and checked the fan(s)? 
>> Particularly the CPU fan.
>>
>> It's not uncommon for the CPU fan/heatsink to be largely choked up 
>> with dust (it can be a real jaw-dropper since most people rarely go 
>> there) and under those circumstances the fan will fire up with the 
>> least bit of increased demand on the CPU.
>>
> 
> Thank you for the reminder! It does imply, however, that the new Firefox 
> causes increased demand on the CPU. None of my other programs do this.
> 


Are the other programs accessing web sites with media like video and 
audio, using your many extensions and displaying it?

What is your hardware?

I have a 3.2 GHz 3 core CPU, with 8 GB of RAM and no increased fan 
activity when browsing.

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4/19/2018 5:12:39 PM
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