Keyboard Layout Changes But JUST in Mozilla apps

Folks,

(Sorry if I misposted this in any way).

System - P4 2.8 GHz/2 GB RAM
OS: XP Pro SP2

I was wondering if anyone has seen/has a clue about this weird 
problem I've been having... It started... years ago... I honestly 
don't remember what versions of the apps, but at least FF2 and 
Thunderbird 1.5.

Basically, after a while of running (I leave both running pretty much 
from the start of my computer until I shut it down - roughly 2-4 
months in between), FF and Thunderbird seem to automatically "switch" 
my keyboard layout and think I'm typing with what looks like a Great 
Britain keyboard layout as opposed to a US keyboard layout.  I know 
it's not windows because I can use Word, notepad, or just about 
anything else and the keyboard responds normally.  For example, the 
next line will contain punctuation and symbols typed in notepad:

~!@#$%^&*()<>?:"{}_+

The following line was typed in the message using Mozilla Thunderbird 
2.0.14 (to be updated next time I reboot).

�!"�$%^&*()<>?:@{}_+

As you can see, I have a British Pound symbol, The @ symbol is now 
where the " symbol is and vice versa and I don't have a tilde 
character available to me.
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Leew
8/8/2008 5:29:46 AM
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Hi,

You probably have multiple keyboard settings, one of which is wrong.
In Windows you can switch between them by pressing Left Alt+Shift.
You can remove the wrong british layout by going to Windows Control 
Panel -> (Category Date, Time, Language, and Regional Options) Regional 
and Language Settings -> Languages -> Text Services and Input Languages 
-> Details.

You have to first change the active layout to the correct one and apply 
it before you can remove a wrong keyboard layout.

I don't know why it only switches for Mozilla applications though, but 
hope this helps anyway.

Onno

Leew wrote:
> Folks,
>
> (Sorry if I misposted this in any way).
>
> System - P4 2.8 GHz/2 GB RAM
> OS: XP Pro SP2
>
> I was wondering if anyone has seen/has a clue about this weird 
> problem I've been having... It started... years ago... I honestly 
> don't remember what versions of the apps, but at least FF2 and 
> Thunderbird 1.5.
>
> Basically, after a while of running (I leave both running pretty much 
> from the start of my computer until I shut it down - roughly 2-4 
> months in between), FF and Thunderbird seem to automatically "switch" 
> my keyboard layout and think I'm typing with what looks like a Great 
> Britain keyboard layout as opposed to a US keyboard layout.  I know 
> it's not windows because I can use Word, notepad, or just about 
> anything else and the keyboard responds normally.  For example, the 
> next line will contain punctuation and symbols typed in notepad:
>
> ~!@#$%^&*()<>?:"{}_+
>
> The following line was typed in the message using Mozilla Thunderbird 
> 2.0.14 (to be updated next time I reboot).
>
> ¬!"£$%^&*()<>?:@{}_+
>
> As you can see, I have a British Pound symbol, The @ symbol is now 
> where the " symbol is and vice versa and I don't have a tilde 
> character available to me.
> _______________________________________________
> support-thunderbird mailing list
> support-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-thunderbird
> To unsubscribe, send an email to support-thunderbird-request@lists.mozilla.org?subject=unsubscribe
>   

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Onno
8/8/2008 8:42:21 AM
Leew wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> (Sorry if I misposted this in any way).
> 
> System - P4 2.8 GHz/2 GB RAM
> OS: XP Pro SP2
> 
> I was wondering if anyone has seen/has a clue about this weird problem 
> I've been having... It started... years ago... I honestly don't remember 
> what versions of the apps, but at least FF2 and Thunderbird 1.5.
> 
> Basically, after a while of running (I leave both running pretty much 
> from the start of my computer until I shut it down - roughly 2-4 months 
> in between), FF and Thunderbird seem to automatically "switch" my 
> keyboard layout and think I'm typing with what looks like a Great 
> Britain keyboard layout as opposed to a US keyboard layout.  I know it's 
> not windows because I can use Word, notepad, or just about anything else 
> and the keyboard responds normally.  For example, the next line will 
> contain punctuation and symbols typed in notepad:
> 
> ~!@#$%^&*()<>?:"{}_+
> 
> The following line was typed in the message using Mozilla Thunderbird 
> 2.0.14 (to be updated next time I reboot).
> 
> �!"�$%^&*()<>?:@{}_+
> 
> As you can see, I have a British Pound symbol, The @ symbol is now where 
> the " symbol is and vice versa and I don't have a tilde character 
> available to me.

I have no idea how your keyboard layout gets changed, but I do have some 
advice.  DON'T leave applications running for very long periods of time. 
  Memory management is Windows is not perfect, and neither is memory 
management in Firefox and Thunderbird.  Over time, ram can become 
seriously fragmented, and Windows may not be able to recover all the 
memory blocks.
Second, there is no way you can leave an application running for 2-4 
months and be properly updating your computer with the Windows Update 
patches that appear on the second Tuesday of each month.  DON'T SKIP 
THESE.  Visit the Windows Update site and apply all the current patches, 
or the SP3 update and see if your problem improves.  Also, get in the 
habit of clearing all running applications at least once a day to allow 
Windows to clean up the RAM.  I suspect you will never see this problem 
again if you do both.


-- 
Ron Hunter  rphunter@charter.net
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Ron
8/8/2008 8:59:49 AM
On Aug 8, 6:29=A0am, Leew <useContactPage@LWComputingDOTcom> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> (Sorry if I misposted this in any way).
>
> System - P4 2.8 GHz/2 GB RAM
> OS: XP Pro SP2
>
> I was wondering if anyone has seen/has a clue about this weird
> problem I've been having... It started... years ago... I honestly
> don't remember what versions of the apps, but at least FF2 and
> Thunderbird 1.5.
>
> Basically, after a while of running (I leave both running pretty much
> from the start of my computer until I shut it down - roughly 2-4
> months in between), FF and Thunderbird seem to automatically "switch"
> my keyboard layout and think I'm typing with what looks like a Great
> Britain keyboard layout as opposed to a US keyboard layout. =A0I know
> it's not windows because I can use Word, notepad, or just about
> anything else and the keyboard responds normally. =A0For example, the
> next line will contain punctuation and symbols typed in notepad:
>
> ~!@#$%^&*()<>?:"{}_+
>
> The following line was typed in the message using Mozilla Thunderbird
> 2.0.14 (to be updated next time I reboot).
>
> =AC!"=A3$%^&*()<>?:@{}_+
>
> As you can see, I have a British Pound symbol, The @ symbol is now
> where the " symbol is and vice versa and I don't have a tilde
> character available to me.

I have the same problem...firefox seems to "forget" that I am not
using a UK keyboard, even though my language is en/gb.
This is not affecting any other applications in widnows, and the
"windows language bar" is set correctly to language english, and
keyboard portuguese.
This is a really annoying problem, anyone know what might cause it____?
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Pete________
8/8/2008 11:01:44 AM
Hi Lee, and Pete,
> [after reboot on Windows XP]  I'm typing with what looks like a Great
> Britain keyboard layout as opposed to a US keyboard layout.  I know
> it's not windows because I can use Word, notepad, or just about
> anything else and the keyboard responds normally.  For example, the
> next line will contain punctuation and symbols typed in notepad:
>    �!"�$%^&*()<>?:@{}_+

US keyboard  top row  all with Shift key     ~!@#$%^&*()_+

This is for those who do not want to  make a choice.   (Windows systems)

Control Panel,   Regional Language Options,   Keyboard (tab)
    Text Services and Input Languages
       General Tab==
         English  (United States) - US
           Keyboard
                US              (and remove other choices, or add another language)
      Language Bar==
            hidden,    and uncheck the other items showing languages in taskbar
      Advanced Key settings  TAB==
            should now have only US  so  no keyboard shortcut to change

BONUS:   Sound warnings  for accidentally hitting  Caps Lock, Num lock,  Scroll Lock
Control Panel, Ease of Access Center: [Shortcut WinKey+U, then choose keyboard]
  Make the keyboard easier to use: [x] Turn on Toggle keys (sound for Caps/Num/Scroll lock)

-- 
HTH,
David McRitchie,   extensions I use are briefly documented on my site
Firefox Custom:  http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/firefox.htm
 

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David
8/8/2008 5:42:57 PM
Thanks, but no luck - in fact, the screen you suggested doesn't exist 
on my system.  I can go to Regional Language control panel, but there 
is no keyboard tab.  All language/location settings report United 
States/US English as expected.

I turn off the language bar... but when I temporarily turn it back on 
to review settings, all are set correctly.

-Lee


David McRitchie wrote:
> Hi Lee, and Pete,
>> [after reboot on Windows XP]  I'm typing with what looks like a Great
>> Britain keyboard layout as opposed to a US keyboard layout.  I know
>> it's not windows because I can use Word, notepad, or just about
>> anything else and the keyboard responds normally.  For example, the
>> next line will contain punctuation and symbols typed in notepad:
>>    �!"�$%^&*()<>?:@{}_+
> 
> US keyboard  top row  all with Shift key     ~!@#$%^&*()_+
> 
> This is for those who do not want to  make a choice.   (Windows systems)
> 
> Control Panel,   Regional Language Options,   Keyboard (tab)
>    Text Services and Input Languages
>       General Tab==
>         English  (United States) - US
>           Keyboard
>                US              (and remove other choices, or add another 
> language)
>      Language Bar==
>            hidden,    and uncheck the other items showing languages in 
> taskbar
>      Advanced Key settings  TAB==
>            should now have only US  so  no keyboard shortcut to change
> 
> BONUS:   Sound warnings  for accidentally hitting  Caps Lock, Num lock,  
> Scroll Lock
> Control Panel, Ease of Access Center: [Shortcut WinKey+U, then choose 
> keyboard]
>  Make the keyboard easier to use: [x] Turn on Toggle keys (sound for 
> Caps/Num/Scroll lock)
> 
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Leew
8/11/2008 6:50:54 AM
Thank you for those sage words.  Am I to assume that your position on 
bugs in software is that if it takes them "too long" (as arbitrarily 
defined by you) to manifest, we should not fix them, rather, we 
should adjust our work habits?  This is a bug in a mozilla product 
(perhaps it uses the same library in firefox and thunderbird) and as 
such, should be addressed.  IMHO.

I do perform updates... maybe not on every patch Tuesday, but they 
are done.

Ron Hunter wrote:
> Leew wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> (Sorry if I misposted this in any way).
>>
>> System - P4 2.8 GHz/2 GB RAM
>> OS: XP Pro SP2
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone has seen/has a clue about this weird problem 
>> I've been having... It started... years ago... I honestly don't 
>> remember what versions of the apps, but at least FF2 and Thunderbird 1.5.
>>
>> Basically, after a while of running (I leave both running pretty much 
>> from the start of my computer until I shut it down - roughly 2-4 
>> months in between), FF and Thunderbird seem to automatically "switch" 
>> my keyboard layout and think I'm typing with what looks like a Great 
>> Britain keyboard layout as opposed to a US keyboard layout.  I know 
>> it's not windows because I can use Word, notepad, or just about 
>> anything else and the keyboard responds normally.  For example, the 
>> next line will contain punctuation and symbols typed in notepad:
>>
>> ~!@#$%^&*()<>?:"{}_+
>>
>> The following line was typed in the message using Mozilla Thunderbird 
>> 2.0.14 (to be updated next time I reboot).
>>
>> �!"�$%^&*()<>?:@{}_+
>>
>> As you can see, I have a British Pound symbol, The @ symbol is now 
>> where the " symbol is and vice versa and I don't have a tilde 
>> character available to me.
> 
> I have no idea how your keyboard layout gets changed, but I do have some 
> advice.  DON'T leave applications running for very long periods of time. 
>  Memory management is Windows is not perfect, and neither is memory 
> management in Firefox and Thunderbird.  Over time, ram can become 
> seriously fragmented, and Windows may not be able to recover all the 
> memory blocks.
> Second, there is no way you can leave an application running for 2-4 
> months and be properly updating your computer with the Windows Update 
> patches that appear on the second Tuesday of each month.  DON'T SKIP 
> THESE.  Visit the Windows Update site and apply all the current patches, 
> or the SP3 update and see if your problem improves.  Also, get in the 
> habit of clearing all running applications at least once a day to allow 
> Windows to clean up the RAM.  I suspect you will never see this problem 
> again if you do both.
> 
> 
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Leew
8/11/2008 6:57:32 AM
Thanks for the suggestion - I have removed both Australian and UK 
entries as you described.  I also closed and reopened both 
applications (before removing the layouts) and now everything is 
fine.  Hopefully, I won't post again on this subject, but it seems to 
happen at random intervals.

-Lee

Onno Ekker wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> You probably have multiple keyboard settings, one of which is wrong.
> In Windows you can switch between them by pressing Left Alt+Shift.
> You can remove the wrong british layout by going to Windows Control 
> Panel -> (Category Date, Time, Language, and Regional Options) Regional 
> and Language Settings -> Languages -> Text Services and Input Languages 
> -> Details.
> 
> You have to first change the active layout to the correct one and apply 
> it before you can remove a wrong keyboard layout.
> 
> I don't know why it only switches for Mozilla applications though, but 
> hope this helps anyway.
> 
> Onno
> 
> Leew wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> (Sorry if I misposted this in any way).
>>
>> System - P4 2.8 GHz/2 GB RAM
>> OS: XP Pro SP2
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone has seen/has a clue about this weird problem 
>> I've been having... It started... years ago... I honestly don't 
>> remember what versions of the apps, but at least FF2 and Thunderbird 1.5.
>>
>> Basically, after a while of running (I leave both running pretty much 
>> from the start of my computer until I shut it down - roughly 2-4 
>> months in between), FF and Thunderbird seem to automatically "switch" 
>> my keyboard layout and think I'm typing with what looks like a Great 
>> Britain keyboard layout as opposed to a US keyboard layout.  I know 
>> it's not windows because I can use Word, notepad, or just about 
>> anything else and the keyboard responds normally.  For example, the 
>> next line will contain punctuation and symbols typed in notepad:
>>
>> ~!@#$%^&*()<>?:"{}_+
>>
>> The following line was typed in the message using Mozilla Thunderbird 
>> 2.0.14 (to be updated next time I reboot).
>>
>> ¬!"£$%^&*()<>?:@{}_+
>>
>> As you can see, I have a British Pound symbol, The @ symbol is now 
>> where the " symbol is and vice versa and I don't have a tilde 
>> character available to me.
>> _______________________________________________
>> support-thunderbird mailing list
>> support-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org
>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-thunderbird
>> To unsubscribe, send an email to 
>> support-thunderbird-request@lists.mozilla.org?subject=unsubscribe
>>   
> 
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Leew
8/11/2008 7:00:33 AM
"Leew"  wrote:...
> Thanks, but no luck - in fact, the screen you suggested doesn't exist 
> on my system.  I can go to Regional Language control panel, but there 
> is no keyboard tab.  All language/location settings report United 
> States/US English as expected.
> 
> I turn off the language bar... but when I temporarily turn it back on 
> to review settings, all are set correctly.

Ok  well I'm on  Vista  so Control Panel  may be a little different from XP.
I tried looking in Help for "change keyboard"   and  I didn't like the choices
I saw for those I'd been to.  
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David
8/11/2008 7:04:47 AM
On Aug 8, 7:29=A0am, Leew <useContactPage@LWComputingDOTcom> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> (Sorry if I misposted this in any way).
>
> System - P4 2.8 GHz/2 GB RAM
> OS: XP Pro SP2
>
> I was wondering if anyone has seen/has a clue about this weird
> problem I've been having... It started... years ago... I honestly
> don't remember what versions of the apps, but at least FF2 and
> Thunderbird 1.5.
>
> Basically, after a while of running (I leave both running pretty much
> from the start of my computer until I shut it down - roughly 2-4
> months in between), FF and Thunderbird seem to automatically "switch"
> my keyboard layout and think I'm typing with what looks like a Great
> Britain keyboard layout as opposed to a US keyboard layout. =A0I know
> it's not windows because I can use Word, notepad, or just about
> anything else and the keyboard responds normally. =A0For example, the
> next line will contain punctuation and symbols typed in notepad:
>
> ~!@#$%^&*()<>?:"{}_+
>
> The following line was typed in the message using Mozilla Thunderbird
> 2.0.14 (to be updated next time I reboot).
>
> =AC!"=A3$%^&*()<>?:@{}_+
>
> As you can see, I have a British Pound symbol, The @ symbol is now
> where the " symbol is and vice versa and I don't have a tilde
> character available to me.

I'm guessing you use 'alt-tab' a lot?
At work I'm the only one using and Azerty layout and alt-tab.
One other person also uses Azerty, but doesn't use alt-tab.
Our operational program (name is unimportant and you'll prly not know
it) is in a remote Citrix environment.
But sometimes, randomly, when I switch to windows with alt-tab (and
usually in the afternoon) my keyboard changes automatically to Qwerty,
to my enormous annoyment...
The entire Citrix environment is still in Azerty, only the operational
program we use is in Qwerty.
I partly found out that the problem is using alt-something but I don't
have any details.

Hope this helps detecting the problem more clearly.
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8/29/2008 11:58:29 AM
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Review: Logitech's keyboard case for iPad Pro makes it a proper laptop
If the iPad Pro is to be a bona fide PC replacement, a keyboard like Logitech's Create is a must.

Test Tube News: Anonymous Trains Its Keyboards on ISIS
The secretive hacktivist group 'Anonymous' has declared war on the technology network of ISIS.

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