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kFreeBSD http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD a Debian distro using the FreeBSD kernel !
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ObiWan
6/22/2009 7:50:23 PM
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ObiWan wrote: > kFreeBSD > > http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD > > a Debian distro using the FreeBSD kernel ! Why use a BSD kernel? I hope the reason is more than, just because they can. http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_why It's easy to understand why the would want to use Debian packages. :) -- Jimmy Johnson Registered Linux User #380263
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Jimmy
6/22/2009 11:18:10 PM
>> kFreeBSD >> >> http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD >> >> a Debian distro using the FreeBSD kernel ! > Why use a BSD kernel? I hope the reason is more than, just because > they can. http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_why and it's not just "because they can" :) > It's easy to understand why the would want to use Debian packages. :) sure; but please, let's avoid starting a "religion war", I love "beastie" (FreeBSD) and I think it has a really *good* kernel, and seeing the linux packaging and stuff running on BSD means to me that we may have the best of both worlds; then btw others here may disagree, but, again, I'm not willing to start a "religion war", the distro is there, so if one wants to try it that's ok, if not, that's ok as well :)
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ObiWan
6/23/2009 4:24:06 PM
ObiWan wrote: >>> kFreeBSD >>> >>> http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD >>> >>> a Debian distro using the FreeBSD kernel ! > >> Why use a BSD kernel? I hope the reason is more than, just because >> they can. http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_why > > and it's not just "because they can" :) > >> It's easy to understand why the would want to use Debian packages. :) > > sure; but please, let's avoid starting a "religion war", I love > "beastie" > (FreeBSD) and I think it has a really *good* kernel, and seeing the > linux packaging and stuff running on BSD means to me that we may > have the best of both worlds; then btw others here may disagree, but, > again, I'm not willing to start a "religion war", the distro is there, > so if > one wants to try it that's ok, if not, that's ok as well :) The point which is really important to me is the ZSF filesystem, while I'll love to have it in Linux, perhaps I could live with it in BSD. In any case it is too early in the game to be certain. -- Mark Cross @ 06/23/2009 3:30 p.m. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
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Mark
6/23/2009 7:33:18 PM
ObiWan wrote: >>> kFreeBSD >>> >>> http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD >>> >>> a Debian distro using the FreeBSD kernel ! >> Why use a BSD kernel? I hope the reason is more than, just because >> they can. http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_why > one wants to try it that's ok, if not, that's ok as well :) I've got it downloaded, busy today and I need to figure out what I'm going to wipe in order to install it, maybe tonight. :) -- Jimmy Johnson Registered Linux User #380263
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Jimmy
6/23/2009 8:01:03 PM
While ObiWan dreams of electric sheep...: >>> kFreeBSD >>> >>> http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD >>> >>> a Debian distro using the FreeBSD kernel ! > >> Why use a BSD kernel? I hope the reason is more than, just >> because they can. >> http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_why > > and it's not just "because they can" :) > >> It's easy to understand why the would want to use Debian >> packages. :) > > sure; but please, let's avoid starting a "religion war", I love > "beastie" (FreeBSD) and I think it has a really *good* kernel, > and seeing the linux packaging and stuff running on BSD means to > me that we may have the best of both worlds; then btw others here > may disagree, but, again, I'm not willing to start a "religion > war", the distro is there, so if one wants to try it that's ok, > if not, that's ok as well :) But why not use FreeBSD (that can support linux executables) with Debian apps ? -- Where's there's smoke, There are mirrors. Give me Free as in Freedom not Speech or Beer.
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DarkWolf
6/23/2009 8:20:53 PM
Jimmy Johnson wrote: > ObiWan wrote: >>>> kFreeBSD >>>> >>>> http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD >>>> >>>> a Debian distro using the FreeBSD kernel ! > >>> Why use a BSD kernel? I hope the reason is more than, just because >>> they can. http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_why >> one wants to try it that's ok, if not, that's ok as well :) > I've got it downloaded, busy today and I need to figure out what I'm > going to wipe in order to install it, maybe tonight. :) Well I took the time to burn it and boot it, I have tried the first 3 choices on the menu, kernel panic so far, it can't find it's "init" on three different boots, not done with it yet, making this post to see if anybody has suggestions. -- Jimmy Johnson Registered Linux User #380263
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Jimmy
6/23/2009 8:23:57 PM
DarkWolf wrote: > But why not use FreeBSD (that can support linux executables) with > Debian apps ? You're sure ? I thought FreeBSD is Unix and executables aren't binary compatible to Linux - even on the same architecture. Or am I wrong ? -- Ninho
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Ninho
6/23/2009 10:54:02 PM
Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Jimmy Johnson wrote: >> ObiWan wrote: >>> one wants to try it that's ok, if not, that's ok as well :) >> I've got it downloaded, busy today and I need to figure out what I'm >> going to wipe in order to install it, maybe tonight. :) > Well I took the time to burn it and boot it, I have tried the first 3 > choices on the menu, kernel panic so far, it can't find it's "init" on > three different boots, not done with it yet, making this post to see if > anybody has suggestions. OK, I Googled the problem and found out it's a known problem since before January 6th 2007. Life's to short. :p -- Jimmy Johnson Registered Linux User #380263
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Jimmy
6/23/2009 11:09:53 PM
Ninho wrote: > DarkWolf wrote: > > >> But why not use FreeBSD (that can support linux executables) with >> Debian apps ? > > You're sure ? I thought FreeBSD is Unix and executables aren't binary > compatible to Linux - even on the same architecture. Or am I wrong ? > BSD (or at least some BSD's) has a compatibility layer for linux binaries. Like WINE, only more complete.
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GourdCaptain
6/23/2009 11:32:08 PM
Mark Cross wrote: > ObiWan wrote: > >>>> kFreeBSD >>>> >>>> http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD >>>> >>>> a Debian distro using the FreeBSD kernel ! >>> Why use a BSD kernel? I hope the reason is more than, just >>> because they can. http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_why >> and it's not just "because they can" :) >> >>> It's easy to understand why the would want to use Debian >>> packages. :) >> sure; but please, let's avoid starting a "religion war", I love >> "beastie" (FreeBSD) and I think it has a really *good* kernel, and >> seeing the linux packaging and stuff running on BSD means to me >> that we may have the best of both worlds; then btw others here may >> disagree, but, again, I'm not willing to start a "religion war", >> the distro is there, so if one wants to try it that's ok, if not, >> that's ok as well :) > > The point which is really important to me is the ZSF filesystem, > while I'll love to have it in Linux, perhaps I could live with it in > BSD. In any case it is too early in the game to be certain. > Ah! Well, Check this out; not quite "there" yet: Nexenta, a Solaris kernel with Ubuntu userland: <http://www.nexenta.org/os>
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Roger
6/23/2009 11:32:43 PM
Roger Parks wrote: > Mark Cross wrote: [snip] >> The point which is really important to me is the ZSF filesystem, >> while I'll love to have it in Linux, perhaps I could live with it in >> BSD. In any case it is too early in the game to be certain. > Ah! Well, Check this out; not quite "there" yet: > Nexenta, a Solaris kernel with Ubuntu userland: > <http://www.nexenta.org/os> Hmmmm, Encouraging news, I'll try it. Thanks! -- Mark Cross @ 06/23/2009 8:03 p.m. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
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Mark
6/24/2009 12:05:30 AM
"ObiWan" <obiwan.try.to.spam.and.get.killed@mvps.org> wrote: > kFreeBSD > > http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD > > a Debian distro using the FreeBSD kernel ! If an OS based on Linux is simply called Linux, then this OS, based on BSD shall be called BSD. Well, it is definitely not Linux if Linux is not used in it. -- Spence
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Spence
6/24/2009 7:14:44 AM
GourdCaptain <saunders.52@wright.edu> wrote: > Ninho wrote: > > DarkWolf wrote: > > > > > >> But why not use FreeBSD (that can support linux executables) with > >> Debian apps ? > > > > You're sure ? I thought FreeBSD is Unix and executables aren't > > binary > > compatible to Linux - even on the same architecture. Or am I wrong ? > > > > BSD (or at least some BSD's) has a compatibility layer for linux > binaries. Like WINE, only more complete. Caveat, i386 only. -- Spence
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Spence
6/24/2009 7:14:45 AM
Spence wrote: > GourdCaptain <saunders.52@wright.edu> wrote: >> Ninho wrote: >>> You're sure ? I thought FreeBSD is Unix and executables aren't >>> binary >>> compatible to Linux - even on the same architecture. Or am I wrong ? >> BSD (or at least some BSD's) has a compatibility layer for linux >> binaries. Like WINE, only more complete. > > Caveat, i386 only. Thank you both. Let me learn something new each day ! -- Ninho
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Ninho
6/24/2009 8:51:34 AM
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:14:44 +0000 (UTC), Spence wrote: >If an OS based on Linux is simply called Linux, then this OS, based on >BSD shall be called BSD. Wouldn't that be GNU/BSD? :) -- Ross McKay, Toronto, NSW Australia "The chief cause of problems is solutions" -Eric Sevareid
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Ross
6/24/2009 10:10:22 AM
Ross McKay <au.org.zeta.at.rosko@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:14:44 +0000 (UTC), Spence wrote: > > >If an OS based on Linux is simply called Linux, then this OS, based > > on > >BSD shall be called BSD. > > Wouldn't that be GNU/BSD? :) If you use the term GNU/Linux then yes!! :D Oh but be aware that the 4 BSDs each have their own kernels, ie there are no "vanilla kernel" that each bsd builds off from, so it this case it should be GNU/FreeBSD to be politically correct. Also look at Gentoo's BSD projects, they actually have Gentoo/FreeBSD and Gentoo/OpenBSD because they wouldn't be able to distinguish them otherwise!! ;) http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/bsd/obsd/index.xml -- Spence
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Spence
6/24/2009 4:39:16 PM
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Spence sent the following transmission through subspace: > If you use the term GNU/Linux then yes!! :D Debian does. - -- Solbu - http://www.solbu.net Remove 'ugyldig.' for email PGP key ID: 0xFA687324 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKQwDnT1rWTfpocyQRAj90AKCCKuiej5xagOLZPbSKB5CXbef4NACfWfKJ 0skjX5pgHH/7JJc5MXPHSiU= =y4GS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Solbu
6/25/2009 4:45:23 AM
While Spence dreams of electric sheep...: > GourdCaptain <saunders.52@wright.edu> wrote: >> Ninho wrote: >>> DarkWolf wrote: >>> >>> >>>> But why not use FreeBSD (that can support linux executables) with >>>> Debian apps ? >>> You're sure ? I thought FreeBSD is Unix and executables aren't >>> binary >>> compatible to Linux - even on the same architecture. Or am I wrong ? >>> >> BSD (or at least some BSD's) has a compatibility layer for linux >> binaries. Like WINE, only more complete. > > Caveat, i386 only. You sure ? I'll have to check my AMD64 install, I could have swore I checked that option. -- Where's there's smoke, There are mirrors. Give me Free as in Freedom not Speech or Beer. Thank You and Welcome to the Internet.
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DarkWolf
6/26/2009 6:59:12 PM
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I created an ASP:Hyperlink and set the ImageURL attribute so the link will be the image.If the image is missing, I would like it to display a 'missing image' pic that I have. I know you can use the OnError attribute of the <img> tag to run some javascript to change it.Unfortunately I can't find a way to access the Hyperlink's Image that is inside it, so I can add an Attribute so the resulting <img> tag will have an OnError attribute inside of it.Any help?If my Hyperlink is called 'foo'....would I do... ((Image) foo.Controls[0]).Attributes.Add(&...
Red Hat's Fedora 11: So easy you'll forget it's Linux
Red Hat has taken heat over the past few years for allegedly neglecting the personal computer in favor of more profitable enterprise servers. It's a fair critique: Red Hat is an enterprise software company, a decision it made years ago, and to good effect. But anyone thinking that Red Hat has somehow forgotten consumer markets in its rush to win the enterprise need only try the final release of Fedora 11, its community-focused operating system for desktops and laptops. I've been evaluating Fedora 11 for the past week and find it polished and professional while meeting ...
Who's show is SN? Steve's or Leo's?
I don't want to start anything (honestly)! Just want to ask a simple question. Does the Security Now podcast belong to Steve Gibson or Leo Laporte? Maybe I'm in a world all to myself, but when I listen to the excellent SN podcasts, I want to hear STEVE, not Leo. But especially in the past few shows, it seems Leo will repeatedly interrupt Steve in the middle of a sentence that I want to hear the rest of. I consider this very rude of Leo. Steve is making a point that I (we) want to hear, then looses his train of thought after Leo barges in and asks something. It...
Guru's..?? Any do's and/or dont's for Zfd4 and Citrix..?
We've got a nw6/sp5 network with GW 6.5, bm3.7 and zfd 4.01 up'n'running.. Now we're adding a citrix server ( win2003) to the mix, will supply a couple off app's to users over the internal VPN in another city. Probably we'll skip the AD phase since we can not see any app and/or user with the need for AD. So,, any special considorations..? tip's'tricks..? known issues...? t.i.a... On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:57:10 GMT, Emerson wrote: > So,, any special considorations..? tip's'tricks..? known issues...? biggest one... zfd4.x d...
DataSet's DataTable's and TableAdapter's Oh My!
Here is my situation. I am using VB as my programming language.I am creating a part of a website that will be the admin section. I want the admin to be able to add/edit data in a set of tables that normal users can't. There are 20 lookup tables that I use in the website that I want the admin to be able to manage (i.e. add, edit, delete, insert). I don't want to create 20 separate web pages (one for each table). I have one page that has links to all the tables. Each link has a "table" querystring variable associated with it. When the...
411 it's pconsole, 51 it's NWPMW32, 65 it's ???
I like to give some of my users controll over their print jobs. In Netware 3.x to 4.x it was pconsole. In Netware 5.x it was NWPMW32. I don't seem to be able to find the same type of utility for Netware 6.5? We don't like to give user access to nwadmin and the NWPMW32 I copied from my 51 server (TID 10075273) to the 65 server won't display the jobs. Mmccabe, It appears that in the past few days you have not received a response to your posting. That concerns us, and has triggered this automated reply. Has your problem been resolved? If not, you might try o...
Repost: FF won't show gif's nor jpg's Red X's
XP sp2 FF 2.0.0.4 extentions: Adblock Plus Copy plain text Fasterfox Firebug FireFTP McAfee SiteAdvisor NoScript Talkback Video Downloader Pic's show red x's. These pics show just fine in Internet Explorer and Netscape. Anyone have any ideas????? Fasterfox, I guess. See what happens if you disable it (or just disable its pipelining feature). -- �Q� =============== Thank you Q. I disabled all of them, one at a time (restarting each time) and the problem still exists :-( digimomma On 7/12/2007 5:26 PM digimom inquired: > Thank y...
The value's length for key 'data source' exceeds it's limit of '128'.
Hii, When I tried to bind dropdownlist to database by declaring connection string in the code behind file I am getting this error: The value's length for key 'data source' exceeds it's limit of '128'. Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code. Exception Details: System.ArgumentException: The value's length for key 'data source' exceeds it's limit of '128'.Source Error: An...
It's not about 1st amendment, it's about condoning Mozilla's despicable behavior.
Today I got a nice email from someone inside Mozilla, in response to my ang= ry post elsewhere, explaining Mozilla's actions. He ended his email with: "Open dialogue is an important part of Mozilla's commitment to open, honest= and community-driven communication, and we remain committed to a free, ope= n web." In the spirit of open dialogue, let me share here my response to him. Ze'ev --------- Dear ..., I appreciate your position yet I remain convinced that Mozilla's behavior w= as despicable. Mozilla caved in to public pressure about one of i...
George's full clang and linux smoker's are hung
apparently since 4/9 On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 05:01:18PM -0600, Karl Williamson wrote: > apparently since 4/9 Mon Apr 9 10:18:16 2012 | Smoking 'smoke-me/leont/sane_eof2' by Leon Timmermans. Smoke order: 2012-04-08 22:32:33 smoke-me/leont/sane_eof2 -- Leon Timmermans <fawaka@gmail.com> 2012-04-08 23:04:38 smoke-me/112316-nulls -- Father Chrysostomos <sprout@cpan.org> Looks like one of the same branches that gave my smokers indigestion. Tony ...
Sybase Ver wise SysTab's, Proc's and add-on info's !!!
Hi DBA Team, Any one is having table formatted information or an excel sheet which will have a clear picture about Sybase Version wide details on System Tables, Procedures and add-on=92s features right from Sybase 4.x to up to date. This will be serving more clarification on Sybase DBA=92s World to know about Sybase version wide comparative changes, features and upcoming details. Experienced DBA=92s are already known this information on their minds. Kindly spare your time to share the same across the WORLD. Thanks In Advance Regards, Viswanathan.V Sybase DBA Practice ...
changes made from one user's webpart's page, effects all user's
I am just doing this offline right now in Visual Web Developer Express 2008I created the login inonce in the memberpage area, people can modify their webpart page. I created several users to test this out. I loaded it in a browser.When I make changes as logged in user "A" . Then logout and login as user "B", user "B,s" webpart page has been changed to user "A".This goes true for whomever I log in as. It changes for everyone.Is there something specific I need to do in order to get everyone's changes to be unique for them & not go across the board? What authentication mode you are using? Maybe you are using Window Authentication? Regards,Vinz"Code, Beer and Music" that's my way of being a programmer!How to get your Forum Question Answered | Blog | CodeASP.NET in my config it says<section name="authenticationService" type="System.Web.Configuration.ScriptingAuthenticationServiceSection, System.Web.Extensions, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31BF3856AD364E35" requirePermission="false" allowDefinition="MachineToApplication"/> in another spot<authentication mode="Forms" /> Do you have this in your Web Config settings?<webParts> <personalization defaultProvider="SqlPersonalizationProvider"> ...
how to control a RadioButtonList's Listitem's text show according database's field
Hi my page has a repeater control,in repeater has a RadioButtonList control now i want to let the RadioButtonList has four Listitem,every Listitem's text is a database's field so the listitem can show dynamic according every record how can i work out my problem thanks a lot hello dearbound your RadioButtonList to database if i m not clear fell free 4 replySatyabrat SinghB.E.(C.Sc.)Web developer Livetek Solution Dont forget to click "Mark as Answer" on the post that helped you. yes.i bound the radiobuttonlist to a dataset but how to display the ...
Opera's widgets vs IE's ActiveX vs FF's extentions.
I've asked the difference on Opera's forum http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=3D152376 The widgets designer answers some my paranoid quiestions. Tony. In grc.security Anthony OZ wrote: > I've asked the difference on Opera's forum > http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=152376 > > The widgets designer answers some my paranoid quiestions. Ahh... Thanks for posting. While it all sounds reassuring, I am not yet "supremely confident" here. I knew OS would follow it's security minded approach, but as with ...
NtCanuck's `TreeWalk' and AnalogX's `FastCache' Dns Servers
Hello Global Friends, I have been using AnalogX's "FastCache" software as my Local Dns Server for all these years. For the last three years I did not see a new version of FastCache software. Recently I came to know of (Developers NT Canuck & ObiWan) "Tree Walk" Dns Server and started using it in the place of FastCache. Tree Walk works perfectly but some offline web pages could not load in IE6. http://www.nseindia.com/marketinfo/charting/HistStockChart.jsp?plot1=TRD_QTY&plot2=PRICE&symbol=colgate&indexname=S%26P+CNX+NIFTY&stdate=01&stm...
What's up with Wilder's?
Haven't been able to access the Wilder's site for days. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/ Recently, <Agent Blue> steadfastly claimed that: > Haven't been able to access the Wilder's site for days. > > http://www.wilderssecurity.com/ > Can not guess --- however, I just (now) clicked the link and his site came up quickly. Frobozz Hi, The site came right up, but there was a message : "Sorry, but this board is currently unavailable. Please try again later." Marcus PEACE "Frobozz" <Wave_Wand@The_Troll.gov>...
Analysis of Microsoft's 'Competing with Linux' Document
I don't know if this topic belongs here; in any case (IMHO) it's really interesting: http://www.cyber.com.au/users/conz/on_competing_with_linux_analysis.html just to quote a couple of rows from the beginning of the document... "In late November, 2001, an industry colleague, knowing that I had an interest in the competitive stance between Linux and Microsoft, sent me a document titled 'Partner Guide: Competing with Linux'. This document was produced by Microsoft in June 2001." and so on... ...
It's the fastest ''firefox'' i've ever had!!!:)
Name: Blagovest Email: blago_944atabvdotbg Product: Firefox Summary: It's the fastest ''firefox'' i've ever had!!!:) Comments: I's a great product!I'm really amazed! Browser Details: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1b1) Gecko/20081007 Firefox/3.1b1 From URL: http://hendrix.mozilla.org/ Note to readers: Hendrix gives no expectation of a response to this feedback but if you wish to provide one you must BCC (not CC) the sender for them to see it. ...
What's the difference between 'Build' and 'Publish'
Greetings....this subject might belong in one of the Visual Studio forums but it's so danged noob-sque.... I'm particularly confused by the 'Precompiled' term in the Publish operation. I'm interested in the path of least resistance between my VS project and my public IIS webserver. thx--steve... Build means creating the assembly of the project ( .dll or .exe file) wich contains MSIL and a manifest file. When you publish your project u just produce the structure of your folder without producing a .dll file when you want to deploy your Web Project. ...
How can I get out of my Mozilla's browser the Winamp browser and get back the Google's or Mozilla's browser.
Please I have got to my browser ( I don't know how.) the Winamp browser he behave like virus stick in.But he doesn't has uninstalation section so I can't do anything to get him away from Mozilla's file. I'm not happy of Winamp's behave its like advertisement against a customer's will. Please is there any way to get him away from Mozilla?Please send me exact direction I have tried many ways but he is deeply inside the systeme so when I install new Mozilla he is always here ready to pester me. Thank you for an answer. Richard ...
When viewing a ng I'm having problems with choosing what to view. It's like this. When scrolling through the posts my reader wants to view every thread. Let's say I read a particular post. It's highli
When viewing a ng I'm having problems with choosing what to view. It's like this. When scrolling through the posts my reader wants to view every thread. Let's say I read a particular post. It's highlighted because I chose to read it. Then after I am done and scroll down, instead of the highlight moving, it stays centered and wants to read/open every post that I'm scrolling through even though I haven't clicked on it and I don't want to read it. This also affects choosing which ng to read. Things want to scroll when I am not wanting them too. When I ...
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