How to use Exception.StackTrace

Hello,

I would like to know how to use the Exception.StackTrace property. I only know that property in .Net, and it is realy cool and powerful functionlity. 
I tried in Delphi to throw an exception, like this: *StrToInt('abc')*, but the StackTrace property is emtpy? 

Furthmore I have seen the some useful properties on the TObject. e.g.: UnitName, MethodName, ... but these properties are emtpy?

Actually that features would be cool for error tracing.
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12/15/2008 11:55:15 AM
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<sauber macher> wrote in message news:55287@forums.codegear.com...

> I tried in Delphi to throw an exception, like this: *StrToInt('abc')*,
> but the StackTrace property is emtpy?

That is because the property is not hooked up to anything by default.  The 
Exception class has new hooks that need to be assigned manually in order for 
stack trace info to be generated.  Why CodeGear did it this way, I do not 
know.\

-- 
Remy Lebeau (TeamB)
1
Remy
12/15/2008 7:03:45 PM
sauber macher wrote:

> Actually that features would be cool for error tracing.

If you are looking for a solution for exception stack tracking then
have a look at the JCL (http://www.delphi-jedi.org). Quality Insite
(the exception and stack tracking built into the RAD Studio IDE) is
built on top of the JCL solution.
-- 
Uwe
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Uwe
12/15/2008 8:19:16 PM
I probably should count to 10 (or higher) before posting this . . . it may be me (and my crabby mood), but it seems like people in the know are being intentionally vauge about how to get and "hook up" the strack trace functionality; as if they're in cahoots with the 3rd party developers.  ("I'm only paranoid because people are out to get me . . . ").

I always seem to be 1 step forward and 2 back with Delphi/CodeGear . . . being stubborn and coming from an MS background, I've been a hostile convert.  I'll see something I like, start to thaw and then run up against something like this that seems to me should be readily accessible.  


I realize the purpose of this forum is not to allow me to be lazy, but any direction on where to look, what to search for, in the JCL library would be appreciated.  In the meantime I will continue dig and try to keep an open mind.

Thanks =S

~ ~ ~

LATER: Back from my pity party . . . 

Well, after digging around in the JCL code, it has become apparent why there is not more information here . . . Wow, what an amazingly involved process.  I can only assume that some form of this processing is built into .NET.  The fact that it is always available from .NET, leads me to believe that it has been "left out" of Delphi due to performance or platform independence considerations.

For what it's worth . . . 

 - I found the actual downloads here:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/jcl/

- I believe you will find an example of the JCL Stack Trace/Tracking here: ...\JVCL336CompleteJCL1104-Build3248\jcl\examples\windows\debug\stacktrack\StackTrackExample.bdsproj
  (see StackTrackDemoMain.ApplicationEventsException)

- The StackTrackExample project references JclDebug.pas where I believe the majority of the work is done, located here:  ...\JVCL336CompleteJCL1104-Build3248\jcl\source\windows
  (see JclDebug.JclLastExceptStackListToStrings called from ApplicationEventsException above)

This is about as far as I've gotten.  Perhaps will update if I decide to go this way and figure out more.


> {quote:title=Uwe Schuster wrote:}{quote}
> sauber macher wrote:
> 
> > Actually that features would be cool for error tracing.
> 
> If you are looking for a solution for exception stack tracking then
> have a look at the JCL (http://www.delphi-jedi.org). Quality Insite
> (the exception and stack tracking built into the RAD Studio IDE) is
> built on top of the JCL solution.
> -- 
> Uwe

Edited by: Jonathan Weekes on Apr 21, 2009 3:58 PM
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Jonathan
4/21/2009 9:22:20 PM
> {quote:title=Jonathan Weekes wrote:}{quote}
> I probably should count to 10 (or higher) before posting this . . . it may be me (and my crabby mood), but it seems like people in the know are being intentionally vauge about how to get and "hook up" the strack trace functionality; as if they're in cahoots with the 3rd party developers.  ("I'm only paranoid because people are out to get me . . . ").
> 

Yeah, you probably should have. No problem, though. :-)

> Well, after digging around in the JCL code, it has become apparent why there is not more information here . . . Wow, what an amazingly involved process.  I can only assume that some form of this processing is built into .NET.  The fact that it is always available from .NET, leads me to believe that it has been "left out" of Delphi due to performance or platform independence considerations.
> 

While I have great respect for the JEDI team, their debugging/stack tracing seems to be overly complex.

Do yourself a favor, and get MadExcept (http://www.madshi.net). It's free for non-commercial use (meaning you can freely use it for development on your own machine), very reasonably priced for use in your distributed applications, and provides awesome exception handling, including full stack traces and the ability to jump from the stack trace list to the source code in the IDE if you're debugging.

Using it is extremly simple. Once you've installed it, go to the Delphi IDE's Project Menu and select "madExcept settings", and then click on the "enable MadExcept" checkbox at the top. If you want all the other defaults (which are exceptionally well thought out), simply click the OK button at the bottom of the dialog and you're done. Do a Project|Build and then run your app.

Standard disclaimer: I have no affiliation of any kind with MadExcept or it's developer. I'm just a long-time extremely happy user of the product.
0
Ken
4/22/2009 5:45:03 PM
Thank you very much for the reply, Ken . . . 

I have seen lots of references to MadExcept in my haphazard searches.  Have not looked into it too far yet becuase I was under the impression that it ran out of the IDE or would require installation on all PC's that referenced it (vs. being compiled into the program for use in a release runtime without requiring installation on every computer running the .exe)--it turns out +_I was *wrong*_+.  A collegue of mine (who prefers to remain nameless) saw your reply, downloaded, installed it, made an .exe that g
enerates an exception (all in about 15 min).  I then ran it on my PC which does not have MadExcept installed and low and behold there was what I've been looking for "all my life".  I will play with this some more, with the hope that I can access the CallStack as a property vs. having the dialog always display.

What I'm trying to do, which I forgot to mention before, is create (find) a relatively simple +_global exception handling framework_+ that I can use to log expected or unexpected exceptions and which includes stack trace information without having to manually add/remove from the stack at the top and bottom of every routine--basically I want the information that is supplied by .NET's Exception.ToString.  I had stumbled on and was looking at http://cc.embarcadero.com/item/17819.  But, it looks like MadExcep
t may give me everything I need.

Thank you so much!



> {quote:title=Ken White wrote:}{quote}
> > {quote:title=Jonathan Weekes wrote:}{quote}
> > I probably should count to 10 (or higher) before posting this . . . it may be me (and my crabby mood), but it seems like people in the know are being intentionally vauge about how to get and "hook up" the strack trace functionality; as if they're in cahoots with the 3rd party developers.  ("I'm only paranoid because people are out to get me . . . ").
> > 
> 
> Yeah, you probably should have. No problem, though. :-)
> 
> > Well, after digging around in the JCL code, it has become apparent why there is not more information here . . . Wow, what an amazingly involved process.  I can only assume that some form of this processing is built into .NET.  The fact that it is always available from .NET, leads me to believe that it has been "left out" of Delphi due to performance or platform independence considerations.
> > 
> 
> While I have great respect for the JEDI team, their debugging/stack tracing seems to be overly complex.
> 
> Do yourself a favor, and get MadExcept (http://www.madshi.net). It's free for non-commercial use (meaning you can freely use it for development on your own machine), very reasonably priced for use in your distributed applications, and provides awesome exception handling, including full stack traces and the ability to jump from the stack trace list to the source code in the IDE if you're debugging.
> 
> Using it is extremly simple. Once you've installed it, go to the Delphi IDE's Project Menu and select "madExcept settings", and then click on the "enable MadExcept" checkbox at the top. If you want all the other defaults (which are exceptionally well thought out), simply click the OK button at the bottom of the dialog and you're done. Do a Project|Build and then run your app.
> 
> Standard disclaimer: I have no affiliation of any kind with MadExcept or it's developer. I'm just a long-time extremely happy user of the product.
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Jonathan
4/22/2009 6:48:19 PM
> {quote:title=Jonathan Weekes wrote:}{quote}

I confirm there's no installation necessary on end-user machines. Everything compiles directly into your executable. If you have your own SMTP server, it can even automatically email you exception reports. The format for the reports makes them pretty easy to scan via code as well; try saving an exception report to file and looking at the output.

> I will play with this some more, with the hope that I can access the CallStack as a property vs. having the dialog always display.
> 

Why didn't you say so? <g> It's easy - MadExcept even comes with a demo. If you installed in the default location, you can find it here:

file:///C:/Program%20Files/madCollection/madBasic/Help/Data/TraceMethods.htm

The files for the demo can be accessed via the madCollection\madExcept\Demos folder (TraceConf.dpr).

> Thank you so much!

Glad I could help. :-)
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Ken
4/23/2009 1:22:04 PM
+1 for MadExcept. Help from developer is very responsive. Easy to
integrate and customize. One of the best products we have ever
purchased.

Luke
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:48:19 -0700, Jonathan Weekes <> wrote:

>Thank you very much for the reply, Ken . . . 
>
>I have seen lots of references to MadExcept in my haphazard searches.  Have not looked into it too far yet becuase I was under the impression that it ran out of the IDE or would require installation on all PC's that referenced it (vs. being compiled into the program for use in a release runtime without requiring installation on every computer running the .exe)--it turns out +_I was *wrong*_+.  A collegue of mine (who prefers to remain nameless) saw your reply, downloaded, installed it, made an .exe that 
g
>enerates an exception (all in about 15 min).  I then ran it on my PC which does not have MadExcept installed and low and behold there was what I've been looking for "all my life".  I will play with this some more, with the hope that I can access the CallStack as a property vs. having the dialog always display.
>
>What I'm trying to do, which I forgot to mention before, is create (find) a relatively simple +_global exception handling framework_+ that I can use to log expected or unexpected exceptions and which includes stack trace information without having to manually add/remove from the stack at the top and bottom of every routine--basically I want the information that is supplied by .NET's Exception.ToString.  I had stumbled on and was looking at http://cc.embarcadero.com/item/17819.  But, it looks like MadExce
p
>t may give me everything I need.
>
>Thank you so much!
>
>
>
>> {quote:title=Ken White wrote:}{quote}
>> > {quote:title=Jonathan Weekes wrote:}{quote}
>> > I probably should count to 10 (or higher) before posting this . . . it may be me (and my crabby mood), but it seems like people in the know are being intentionally vauge about how to get and "hook up" the strack trace functionality; as if they're in cahoots with the 3rd party developers.  ("I'm only paranoid because people are out to get me . . . ").
>> > 
>> 
>> Yeah, you probably should have. No problem, though. :-)
>> 
>> > Well, after digging around in the JCL code, it has become apparent why there is not more information here . . . Wow, what an amazingly involved process.  I can only assume that some form of this processing is built into .NET.  The fact that it is always available from .NET, leads me to believe that it has been "left out" of Delphi due to performance or platform independence considerations.
>> > 
>> 
>> While I have great respect for the JEDI team, their debugging/stack tracing seems to be overly complex.
>> 
>> Do yourself a favor, and get MadExcept (http://www.madshi.net). It's free for non-commercial use (meaning you can freely use it for development on your own machine), very reasonably priced for use in your distributed applications, and provides awesome exception handling, including full stack traces and the ability to jump from the stack trace list to the source code in the IDE if you're debugging.
>> 
>> Using it is extremly simple. Once you've installed it, go to the Delphi IDE's Project Menu and select "madExcept settings", and then click on the "enable MadExcept" checkbox at the top. If you want all the other defaults (which are exceptionally well thought out), simply click the OK button at the bottom of the dialog and you're done. Do a Project|Build and then run your app.
>> 
>> Standard disclaimer: I have no affiliation of any kind with MadExcept or it's developer. I'm just a long-time extremely happy user of the product.
---
Luke Miller
ResCorSoft, Inc.

"Feliz es el hombre que ha hallado sabiduría, 
 y el hombre que consigue discernimiento"
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Luke
4/23/2009 7:14:54 PM
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