Visual Studio 2008 ASP.NET Builds VERY Slow

Whenever I debug an ASP.NET page in VS2008 (no matter how simple the page is), it hangs for at least 90 seconds.  The "build started > build succeeded" bit only takes three or four seconds...then it hangs for what seems like an eternity.  Periodically, "Loading symbols xxxxxxxxxxx" will flash at the bottom, and finally after about 90 seconds, it'll hit the Page_Load event.

 Any idea as to what's going on?

 

Thanks in advance.

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ASPNeophyte
4/29/2008 5:07:47 PM
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Have you tried to apply the fix mentioned on: http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2008/02/08/vs-2008-web-development-hot-fix-roll-up-available.aspx


Thanks,

Teemu Keiski
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joteke
4/29/2008 8:35:43 PM

Thanks for the quick response.  You're responding faster than VS is debugging Wink

 I did try the hotfix - it fixed some other problems I was having (slow performance in the designer and code windows, etc.), but it didn't stop the debug issues.  I just timed it twice - it's over two minutes between the time that VS says "build succeeded" and the Page_Load event.  The build and the Page_Load events only take about 4 seconds each respectively.

 Any other ideas?

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ASPNeophyte
4/29/2008 8:54:19 PM
Our team is systematically collecting performance isues at vwdperf-at-microsoft-dot-com.  More details here: http://blogs.msdn.com/webdevtools/archive/2008/04/24/public-alias-to-report-performance-issues-with-vwd.aspx
 
On the side, your symptom sounds similar to a case where you're loading symbols from a share that may not exist.  Do you have anything of that sort under Tools > Options > Debugging > Symbols?

Jeff King
Program Manager
ASP.net
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Jeff
4/30/2008 9:10:45 AM

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the response.  The dialog under Tools > Options > Debugging > Symbols is empty.  Any other ideas?

Would you like me to send any details to the address you mentioned above?  I'm happy to do anything to contribute to a resolution.

Thanks again.

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ASPNeophyte
5/1/2008 12:14:10 PM

We have this problem as well.  Using asp.net 2.0 with vb.net on VS 2008, win xp.  Our project is taking a minute to start the debugger and get going.  It's worse on another one of our projects.  After the browser loads, it just sits there waiting for it to finish loading the symbols as seen in the Output window.  The project compiles within about 10 seconds but takes a minute to start up after that.  Productivity has gone south.

I have tried most things I can find on other blogs for solutions but no luck.  The Tools-Options-Debugger-Symbols settings is empty so it doesn't point to a bad path.  Should be okay there.  There isn't an environment variable _NT_SYMBOL_PATH so okay there.

Turned on Debugger Exceptions but nothing seems to be slowing it down on startup.

 It appears that it just takes forever to load symbols.  Tried to use the Microsoft symbol server to create a local symbol cache but it prompted me for the location of a couple of things and the blog wasn't much help there.

If I don't make any code changes, it starts up pretty fast.  A one line code change causes it revert back to molasses.  If I create a brank new web site project, it starts up the debugger pretty fast.

Has anybody come up with a solution to this?

 I see that VS 2008 SP1 might be available next week (8/11/08) per the MSDN subscriptions home page. Hopefully that will help. 

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dmurphy7299
8/8/2008 9:03:50 PM

I had the same problem and made all of the adjustments as mentioned in this forum but it didn't help. I began to suspect that the slow loading time of the dlls had to do with security settings. It appears that access to the dlls goes through security checking that is part of the operating system and not part of VIsual Studio. The dlls are located in a directory for your application under:

C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\

In order to speed up the security checking, you need to remove all of the security settings on the root folder of your application in the above mentioned directory, or on the directory "Temporary ASP.NET Files" if you want to have it apply to all web applications you develop.

You right mouse click the folder and select Properties -> Security

Remove all users and groups. Some will not be allowed to be removed because they inherit their permissions from their parent folder. You must first remove the inheritance by clicking on the Advanced button and then uncheck the "Inherit from parent..." checkbox. Then remove the user or group. There must not be any users or groups where the checkboxes for their permissions are greyed out. If they are greyed out, it means that you didn't remove the inheritance from their parent.

After you have removed all users and groups from the folder, you then need to add the following users and groups:

Administrators
Users
ASPNET
Network
Network Service
Local Service

Give each of these accounts full permission. Click on the Advanced button again and check off the "Replace permission entries on all child objects..."

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Elijah
8/13/2008 9:37:02 AM

Thank you so much for your reply.  I have applied your changes but no luck.  We are still at a 30 second start up time minimum.  it builds in about 2 seconds and then takes 25 seconds to load all the symbols and get going.  The slowest symbols to load are from this folder:

C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root

We have installed .Net 35 SP1 and VS 2008 SP1.

We turned off our anti-virus to make sure it wasn't slowing things down.  No help.

Our project is not that big but we are using user controls.  Watching the output window, it loads files from the GAC fast but is slow on the above Temporary ASP.Net\root folder.

Anyway, if anybody else has any ideas, please let me know.  I'm assuming we should be able to start up faster than 30 seconds the build only takes 2-3 seconds.

Thanks.

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dmurphy7299
8/13/2008 6:02:39 PM
The problem eventually came back. I did find another solution that appears to have removed the problem. The environment variable NT_SYMBOL_PATH needs to be removed. Even if you've downloaded and cached the symbols from Microsoft's website, this environment variable should be completely removed altogether. I believe that the name of the environment variable might even have an underscore preceeding it, so just check for anything like _NT_SYMBOL_PATH and delete it. After I deleted this and rebooted VS, the problem disappeared with the slow loading of assemblies.
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Elijah
8/21/2008 10:39:39 AM

THanks.  I don't have that variable so good to go there.  We have a case opened with Microsoft.  Will post the results soon.

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dmurphy7299
8/21/2008 4:40:41 PM

Elijah R:
The environment variable NT_SYMBOL_PATH needs to be removed
 

Not in my experience.

However a slow link, and a third party dll without local symbols will cause delays. But the best route is to switch off the automatic downloading of symbols inside VS (the environment variable is also used by other tools which will suffer for its loss). Tools | Options | Debugging | Symbols.and checking the "search the above locations only when ..." option. 

 


Richard
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rjcox
8/21/2008 8:34:45 PM

 Have many Gb of RAM do you run with?

My laptop runs VS2008 fast with 2Gb of RAM and my desktop runs VS2008 very fast with 3.8 Gb of RAM.

I suggest you you check your Virtual memory settings. Do you have a fixed size extent for the page file (minimum value = maximum value)?


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TATWORTH
8/23/2008 6:23:45 PM

Thanks for the replies.  I have 2gb of Ram with Dual core processor.

I have been working with MS on this case.  One suggestion they had that got me down to 25 seconds was:

 In web.config, set the batch attribute in the compilation tag to false.  Example below.  

 <compilation debug="true" strict="false" explicit="true" batch="false">

 I'll let you know if they come up with anything else.

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dmurphy7299
9/5/2008 8:00:09 PM

VS2008 SP1 did it for me - not sure if you've tried that or not.  Brought the builds down to 5 seconds or so.

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ASPNeophyte
9/5/2008 10:18:36 PM

After working with MS Support, three things helped.

1) set batch="false" in the compilation tag of the web.config file.  Set it back to true when releasing to production.  This knocked off a few seconds.

<system.web>

<compilation debug="true" strict="false" explicit="true" batch="false">

2) We had some projects that were vb classes and our data access layer DLLs underneath the web application project.  We moved those outside of the web app project.  Then updated went to the web application project properties page, and on the References page, pointed to these projects using Project tab in the Add References dialog.

3) Optionally, changing it to use IIS instead of the cassini application server sped it up a couple more seconds.  However, you can't do edit and continue with this.  You change this setting on the Web page of the web application properties page.

After doing all of that, we can make a code change and start up in 12 to 15 seconds.  That's the best we could get it.

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dmurphy7299
9/17/2008 10:36:27 PM

Tatworth,

This absolutely nothing to do with PC performance. Thanks for your input but please do not damage this thread. It's been a huge headache for us to have this message go through and get Microsoft to help or fix this problem. It's one of the worst problems ASP.NET/Visual Studio developers face every single day. This problem really harms our productivity.

Thanks

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neutrino
11/7/2008 6:23:54 PM

 In my case, the fix above (on the web.config compilation element) did not help. I have a page that has a big number of user controls. This is what takes a couple of minutes each time I do a code change and try to debug:

 'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'M_1789df76_4b1f_4822_93d1_b228b0e8d9ec'
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_msgboxuc.ascx.6bb32623.rnw21_je.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_searchorganizationuc.ascx.6bb32623.yhgnwqi1.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_navigation.master.cdcab7d2.hwtipfs7.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_searchcontract.ascx.5a4dd027.8uadhjlb.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_contractciproduct.ascx.5a4dd027.zknbdmut.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_contracteventlist.ascx.5a4dd027.flmqjphk.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_contractlocale.ascx.5a4dd027._quubfok.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_contractretailer.ascx.5a4dd027.w5rpftx_.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_contractsalestab.ascx.5a4dd027._fes67ej.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_contractevent.ascx.5a4dd027.pmnl1bnd.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_contact.ascx.5a4dd027.dfkxd2hu.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_contractmfrtab.ascx.5a4dd027.oi883vsj.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_contractlegaltab.ascx.5a4dd027.52-krbgr.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_contractfintab.ascx.5a4dd027.rcy894rl.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_searchcategory.ascx.bb99d8ca.yhw9kqoe.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_contractopstab.ascx.5a4dd027.xw-cyuqg.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_contractmfr.ascx.5a4dd027.lnurchjh.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_contract.ascx.5a4dd027.pvvuohqw.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Web_contract.aspx.adf53a76.26kaybg9.dll', Symbols loaded.
'WebDev.WebServer.EXE' (Managed): Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\10256aec\9d1e1872\App_Theme_ThemeDefault.xfrphm-4.dll', Symbols loaded.

Because I changed web.config to not batch compilation I can now see the details of all the user controls as they are each compiled or linked. I don't know why this takes so long (2 to 3 minutes to debug each time!). I am not changing the code in any of these user controls. But if I change code anywhere in the application or in any of the class libraries the long delay will happen the next time I debug. It's a nightmare. 

David

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neutrino
11/7/2008 6:47:25 PM

 >Thanks for your input but please do not damage this thread

How can it damage the thread?

I have Visual Studio 2008 on two machines with 4Gb of RAM, and VS opens very fast.


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TATWORTH
11/7/2008 7:15:48 PM

 David

    Do you ever clear out your C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files directory? 


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TATWORTH
11/7/2008 7:17:19 PM

 why would that be necesarry?

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neutrino
11/7/2008 10:20:38 PM

There were over 300 mb of temporary files there. I deleted them all. It made absolutelly no difference. Thanks for the suggestion anyways.

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neutrino
11/7/2008 10:54:36 PM

 >Why would that be necessary?

Occasionally, Visual Studio has problems with the temporary files with a message like "cannot find QWVDYHJ.CS"; clearing out the temporary files fixes it..


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TATWORTH
11/8/2008 8:30:52 AM

 Can anyone from Microsoft actually chime in on this? This is a HUGE development nightmare, anytime we modify our assemblies it takes 3 mins to build the solution, it makes it near impossible to be productive.

 

 

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justsnafu
11/11/2008 10:49:28 PM

 I suggest that you report it at

Please post the reference of your report back here, so that others getting the same problem can also report it.

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TATWORTH
11/12/2008 8:08:06 AM
Has anyone found a solution to this problem ?
I have scoured the forums, and tried all suggestions but without success. My environment (VISTA,VS2008.Net3.5) will attempt load symbols for CppCodeProvider.dll approximately every second time I debug the project, and takes about 8 minutes before the IDE becomes responsive. Its driving me nuts !
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dachyon
4/28/2009 10:14:51 PM

 Are you in a situation where you have the opportunity to "downgrade" to XP?


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TATWORTH
4/29/2009 8:08:51 AM
Unfortunately no. My dev laptop is pretty new and only has device drivers for Vista. I have tried to install XP, but it was pretty flakey, and could find no drivers whatsoever for sound. So I'm stuck with Vista, until Windows 7 has a stable release.

Nevertheless, I followed your suggestion in an earlier POST and looked in the Temporary ASP.NET files folder, and found a lot of stuff there from all the projects I have been working on. I deleted these files and found that it reduced the time to bring up the debugger to only about 30 seconds - much improved, but still not great.
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dachyon
4/29/2009 9:50:02 PM

 How much free RAM does your laptop have when running Visual Studio?


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TATWORTH
4/30/2009 9:21:44 PM
My laptop has 4GB RAM.
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dachyon
5/3/2009 11:21:49 PM

 With that amount of RAM, you could run virtual PC and run XP as a virtual PC. The lack of device drivers for XP would not be a problem.


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5/4/2009 7:20:40 AM
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... a topic or piece of content that has to do with places and locations. Nowadays (and often in the olden days), readers gravitate towards visual ...

Visual Effects On ‘The Martian,’ ‘Ant-Man’ And ‘The Walk’ Stand Out In Blockbuster Year For VFX
It's been a transformative year for the art of visual effects , demonstrated not only by the increasingly ordinary and realistic depiction of ...

The Good Dinosaur's Visual Grandeur Makes Up For Its Lack Of Wit
One of the constant accolades Pixar receives about its movies is that they’re not made just for kids. This is meant as a compliment: While they’re ...

Clannad visual novel on Steam, briefly outsells Call of Duty
Visual novel Clannad released on PC in Japan back in 2004 and since spawned various adaptations, including an anime series. Publisher Sekai Project ...

Microsoft Delivers Visual Studio 2015 Update 1
Microsoft announced the release to manufacturing (RTM) versions of Visual Studio 2015 Update 1 and Team Foundation Server 2015 Update 1.

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