Can you help me get started?

Hi all,

All i wanted to do was just build a website, upload it and reap in the millions.....

I dunno, its 3:48am and my head has just exploded

Can anyone tell me why im movin stuff around in my design view of Microsoft Visual Web Developer Express Edition ( ooh err mrs ), and once viewed in my web browser - the things i thought i just moved, havent moved at all - i dont get it - i dont know enough html so im buggered in that sence, i do look at the code ( i was - in me younger days a Borland Turbo C++ programmer but aint touched that field for years ) and some stuff i actually understand but it seems just addin someink stoopid like a space, shifts all me lovely little boxes around.

Do they make a better editor ? or is it me, and another thing thats really freakin me out, is that i can run the website on my thingy server ..... but when i upload it to my hosting company ....i get all sorts of " cant find this...cant find that.....not gonna do anythin you ask apart from wind you up " error messages.

Yeah yeah - i know im not bein specific, im just airing my head - why is it that the questions that im getting now after installing as required and doin wot im told, are already on the net in forums and tons of people are helping eachother to fix em? Dont you lot get fed up with it ?

Why cant they just invent a program that actually works and does what they say itll do eh lol

Anyway, my point is that if your not a top notch programmer, how the blimmin ell are you sposed to get a nice secure good old website up and runnin for the world to see eh?

Im gonna go get another glass of Bells on ice, a bar of Cadburys ( without the Salmenella ) and stick another Kylie DVD on and drown me sorrows.....

Anyone else that feels the same way, drop me a line and ill send ya a christmas card lol


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Do they make a better editor ? or is it me
It's you.

When you go out to replace that bottle of Bells, you can buy a copy of ASP.NET 2.0 for Dummies.  I am not being sardonic, as this book is truly a great way to get started with ASP.NET 2.0.

7/27/2006 3:24:57 AM

!! LOL !!  Hiccup !!

im gonna do that - cheers arry BUT, you still aint explained it for me av ya

some people would get offended by your "its you." statement - not me though ;-)

i do understand that there are several millions of books n downloads n help forums n blah blah blah out there that a humble "dummie" such as myself could get hold of etc but i was, hoping, yes thats the right word, that somebody would just this help me out so i could get on with some other stuff. I thought that was what forums were for ..... help?

Still, i WILL ave a look for that book as obviously i do need to grasp the basics so that i can complete my mission, but come on, a beginner,doin it the way they tell ya to do it, checking it, double checkin it and then doing it all over again and then finding out that the errors are caused by their software.....surely you can see my point?


7/27/2006 4:06:46 AM

I thought that was what forums were for ..... help?
You didn't actually ask a question, so it was not possible to provide you with specific help.

Moreover, I try to provide a beginner with the help they need, not necessarily the help he or she has requested.  In your case, maybe I could have answered your question.  But I know that you will then move on and immediately hit another problem.  And then another.  And another. 

I know, from my own experience and from watching beginners on these forums, that the best answer is often to "buy a book".  You see, there is a huge difference between knowing an answer (click ButtonX to fix this problem) and understanding an answer.  Those beginners who try to fumble their way through learning ASP.NET, by following an online tutorial or two, invariably hit problem after problem after problem.  They may ask a question on these forums and receive an answer, but they do not understand the answer.  This means that when they next come upon the same or a similar problem, they again have to ask for help. 

On the other hand, some beginners start learning by working through books.  On these forums, we can see these beginners improving.  Their questions get more advanced, and the way in which they pose the questions shows that they are truly understanding ASP.NET.

So that is why, when I see an open-ended message such as your own, I recommend buying a book.  It may not be the answer you were looking for, but I honestly believe that it is the right answer for you.

7/27/2006 5:03:40 AM

lol, now thats what i call an answer - doesnt help me in the least with what i wanna do, BUT if you answer all of my questions just like that - i wont need to read any books - brilliant answer lol

crisp - clean, very informative and straight to the point.

I actually went back and re-read my original post as youd stated that i hadnt asked a question - and lo and behold - your quite right lol - i forgot to write it - that mustve been the booze talkin eh.

and so i will attatch the question here for your perousal ....


Server Error in '/' Application.

Configuration Error
Description: An error occurred during the processing of a configuration file required to service this request. Please review the specific error details below and modify your configuration file appropriately.

Parser Error Message: Unrecognized attribute 'xmlns'.

Source Error:

Line 8:      \Windows\Microsoft.Net\Framework\v2.x\Config
Line 9:  -->
Line 10: <configuration xmlns="">
Line 11:     <appSettings/>
Line 12:     <connectionStrings/>
Source File: d:\s\h\shimm\www\web.config    Line: 10

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.2300; ASP.NET Version:1.1.4322.2300


it happens once ive uploaded to my hosting company using MS VWD 2005 Express

other people have said to go into IIS on my local machine and change the version number for .NET from  1.1 to 2.0 but still nothing changes.

I get the impression that there are files stored on my local machine that allow the site to run, but when i copy/paste the site up to the host, the files are still ( again - im assuming ) looking for the original folders etc on my hard drive, instead of on theirs. I tried removing the configuration line but then other weirdy errors appear instead. That then made me think - Oh god no - i gotta build me own web.config file and all the tutorials that ive been through just dont give enough info to do that.

Hence my original post of  "why dont it work when they say it will" - they should cater for this in my opinion. Otherwise whats the point of pulling people like me in that are quite happy to use Frontpage 2003 to build me website in. I download their new wonderful programs and cant get the buggas to work. If you see my meaning.

Anyway, sorry to take up loads of your time with irellevant chit chat but im used to Call Of Duty forums and not ones that are up market like these.

Awaiting your earliiest reply with eagerness lol.




7/27/2006 5:55:09 PM
it happens once ive uploaded to my hosting company using MS VWD 2005 Express

other people have said to go into IIS on my local machine and change the version number for .NET from  1.1 to 2.0 but still nothing changes.

Changing the IIS settings on your local machine has no bearing on the IIS settings on your host's server.  You need to use your host's administrative utility to tell it that your website needs ASP.NET 2.0.  You should contact your host on how to do this if it is not apparent from their provided administrative utility.

I suggest using Google to search for specific error messages you may be receiving.  This is the quickest self-serve way to resolve problems.  And, has Alister has suggested, reading a good book, such as ASP.NET 2.0 Unleashed, is the best way to truly learn this stuff.  From that solid foundation you will have a lot more confidence and ability to troubleshoot your problems.  Books, the MSDN Library, and Google are my main references, as well as the Search function on these forums.

Terri Morton
Engagement Manager, Neudesic

How to ask a question

7/27/2006 6:17:11 PM

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